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When the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA."
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The devil made him do it.
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys."
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Has the worm turned?
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it."
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?"
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The final rat is jumping off the ship...
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂"
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Oh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship..."
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Can’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town..."
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Everyone shoots the body
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around."
] |
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Trump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.
Problem solved. Right Repubs?
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body"
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Love it when the rats turn on each other.
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?"
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This guy is scum
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other."
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I feel like Rudy misses the attention.
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum"
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I wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention."
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Top Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not."
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Rudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure."
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Giuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker."
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I think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled."
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Next statement from Trump:
“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial."
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Why is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”"
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It sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution
Donald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars."
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Is this the start of Rudy turning on trump?
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him"
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Well, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?
And then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away."
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Hmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?"
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He can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth."
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Is Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said"
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We know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked."
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Funny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den."
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Oh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised."
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That's a top lawyer move
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy."
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trump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move"
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so is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭"
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Begs the question, does Rudy have any?
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes."
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Flip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?"
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When you're a star they let you do it.
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon."
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Wait. How did he get those tax returns?
Edit: I assume they are now in the Archives.
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it."
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Better than grabbing women by the pussy?
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives."
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This piece of shit…. 😑.
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?"
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I’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑."
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“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…"
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Didn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”"
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Next fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit."
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house"
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I feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”.
The sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s"
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The vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”"
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I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc
This man has taken docs home. "I never got caught" is not what one says of something one did not do.
I would wager this man has seen more "docs" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption."
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Sure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together."
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Ok. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!"
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Oh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged."
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"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc," Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.
Uh.
Wtf. Lmao.
How is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency.
The right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop."
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"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me."
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview."
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\""
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Is there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with."
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I thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus."
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Giuliani said he did not bring the documents home.
He absolutely fucking did.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…"
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I love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie.
His whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did."
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OMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end."
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Rudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!"
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I just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud"
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Lol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝"
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I’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”"
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The house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!"
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Haven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart."
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It must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!"
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Jesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere."
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I realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says "I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids."
Except he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so."
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something."
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I can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. "hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him."
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I was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\""
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And here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify.
Jokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,"
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Imagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons.
Dems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?
Enough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other.
The country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted
The road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him."
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They watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. "There is the enemy. We will protect you."
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade"
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Well trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\""
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files."
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Still better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort."
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Eating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return."
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know."
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s"
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Rudy looking at the news going "god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else"
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I'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.
Biden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.
Erasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\""
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Not again..
Please keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics."
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle."
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This seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!"
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Giuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on "vetting" some "very rich" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump.
How is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal."
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Any of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future."
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'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'.
Guilty.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty."
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns"
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Rudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!
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[
"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?"
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Et tu, Rudy?
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!"
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As a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear."
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much"
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Rudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him"
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Rudy will deny he said any of that
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker."
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Why is this Criminal still waking around free?
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that"
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