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Personal information would not be classified as "Top Secret" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause "exceptionally grave" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as "Top Secret." That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities."
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious"
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He only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns."
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Seems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections."
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them."
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I don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!
Not with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like"
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All these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime"
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Isn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining."
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Why don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers."
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Rudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it."
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home."
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt"
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Whoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”."
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Yeah but whaddaboud Biden?!
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now"
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Man I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!"
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It’s not illegal when the President does it.
That’s the rule, right?
I heard that somewhere.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk."
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Honestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere."
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around"
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Did he just downplay this lol
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here"
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How real is this story
Because I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents
How much further can we go down the path
Of law and order before there is law and order
Fucking fart bags
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024"
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And the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem.
Just following orders.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders."
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I feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns"
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Having a security clearance doesn't gain you permission to take classified documents from the workplace. Taking classified documents from the workplace is how you lose your security clearance and end up in jail.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns",
">\n\nI feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense."
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns",
">\n\nI feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense.",
">\n\nHaving a security clearance doesn't gain you permission to take classified documents from the workplace. Taking classified documents from the workplace is how you lose your security clearance and end up in jail."
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Sounds Trumpish that Trump would advise Giuliani to do this, but are we to trust any statement made by Rudy Giuliani?
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns",
">\n\nI feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense.",
">\n\nHaving a security clearance doesn't gain you permission to take classified documents from the workplace. Taking classified documents from the workplace is how you lose your security clearance and end up in jail.",
">\n\n‘When you’re a star, they let you do it.”"
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I never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever took any documents. I never got caught. I don’t remember ever taking any documents.
Sounds legit
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns",
">\n\nI feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense.",
">\n\nHaving a security clearance doesn't gain you permission to take classified documents from the workplace. Taking classified documents from the workplace is how you lose your security clearance and end up in jail.",
">\n\n‘When you’re a star, they let you do it.”",
">\n\nSounds Trumpish that Trump would advise Giuliani to do this, but are we to trust any statement made by Rudy Giuliani?"
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Although slimy as hell would he need clearance to view tax returns?
Doesn’t seem like a national security issue. But I’m not an attorney.
And by his statements it doesn’t sound like Rudi is either. Holy shit do his statements sound like that if a non lawyer.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns",
">\n\nI feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense.",
">\n\nHaving a security clearance doesn't gain you permission to take classified documents from the workplace. Taking classified documents from the workplace is how you lose your security clearance and end up in jail.",
">\n\n‘When you’re a star, they let you do it.”",
">\n\nSounds Trumpish that Trump would advise Giuliani to do this, but are we to trust any statement made by Rudy Giuliani?",
">\n\nI never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever took any documents. I never got caught. I don’t remember ever taking any documents. \nSounds legit"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns",
">\n\nI feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense.",
">\n\nHaving a security clearance doesn't gain you permission to take classified documents from the workplace. Taking classified documents from the workplace is how you lose your security clearance and end up in jail.",
">\n\n‘When you’re a star, they let you do it.”",
">\n\nSounds Trumpish that Trump would advise Giuliani to do this, but are we to trust any statement made by Rudy Giuliani?",
">\n\nI never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever took any documents. I never got caught. I don’t remember ever taking any documents. \nSounds legit",
">\n\nAlthough slimy as hell would he need clearance to view tax returns?\nDoesn’t seem like a national security issue. But I’m not an attorney. \nAnd by his statements it doesn’t sound like Rudi is either. Holy shit do his statements sound like that if a non lawyer."
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I bet they spent some time with Prince Andrew (and some other guys high up on that pyramid) on good ol epstein island as well, I bet there are some files and other things hidden there as well 🤔🤯
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns",
">\n\nI feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense.",
">\n\nHaving a security clearance doesn't gain you permission to take classified documents from the workplace. Taking classified documents from the workplace is how you lose your security clearance and end up in jail.",
">\n\n‘When you’re a star, they let you do it.”",
">\n\nSounds Trumpish that Trump would advise Giuliani to do this, but are we to trust any statement made by Rudy Giuliani?",
">\n\nI never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever took any documents. I never got caught. I don’t remember ever taking any documents. \nSounds legit",
">\n\nAlthough slimy as hell would he need clearance to view tax returns?\nDoesn’t seem like a national security issue. But I’m not an attorney. \nAnd by his statements it doesn’t sound like Rudi is either. Holy shit do his statements sound like that if a non lawyer.",
">\n\nGiuliani, if smart, should have asked Trump to autograph one of those documents."
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns",
">\n\nI feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense.",
">\n\nHaving a security clearance doesn't gain you permission to take classified documents from the workplace. Taking classified documents from the workplace is how you lose your security clearance and end up in jail.",
">\n\n‘When you’re a star, they let you do it.”",
">\n\nSounds Trumpish that Trump would advise Giuliani to do this, but are we to trust any statement made by Rudy Giuliani?",
">\n\nI never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever took any documents. I never got caught. I don’t remember ever taking any documents. \nSounds legit",
">\n\nAlthough slimy as hell would he need clearance to view tax returns?\nDoesn’t seem like a national security issue. But I’m not an attorney. \nAnd by his statements it doesn’t sound like Rudi is either. Holy shit do his statements sound like that if a non lawyer.",
">\n\nGiuliani, if smart, should have asked Trump to autograph one of those documents.",
">\n\nI bet they spent some time with Prince Andrew (and some other guys high up on that pyramid) on good ol epstein island as well, I bet there are some files and other things hidden there as well 🤔🤯"
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So....if we were wondering whether or not Rudy ever got paid for all those lawsuits he filed in swing states in support of the Big Lie, now we know. Trumpy stiffed him, now he's willing to make a feeble attempt to toss Trumpy under the bus. (Image of hair dye dripping down his neck....)
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns",
">\n\nI feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense.",
">\n\nHaving a security clearance doesn't gain you permission to take classified documents from the workplace. Taking classified documents from the workplace is how you lose your security clearance and end up in jail.",
">\n\n‘When you’re a star, they let you do it.”",
">\n\nSounds Trumpish that Trump would advise Giuliani to do this, but are we to trust any statement made by Rudy Giuliani?",
">\n\nI never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever took any documents. I never got caught. I don’t remember ever taking any documents. \nSounds legit",
">\n\nAlthough slimy as hell would he need clearance to view tax returns?\nDoesn’t seem like a national security issue. But I’m not an attorney. \nAnd by his statements it doesn’t sound like Rudi is either. Holy shit do his statements sound like that if a non lawyer.",
">\n\nGiuliani, if smart, should have asked Trump to autograph one of those documents.",
">\n\nI bet they spent some time with Prince Andrew (and some other guys high up on that pyramid) on good ol epstein island as well, I bet there are some files and other things hidden there as well 🤔🤯",
">\n\nScum both of them"
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So, you were told to do illegal activities and you never reported that request? How the fuck are these people even allowed out of a prison?
I have required self reporting in my job for certain unethical requests and if I accidentally share some information between coworkers of a different classification…. And my shit isn’t nearly the security risk as this kind of crap.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns",
">\n\nI feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense.",
">\n\nHaving a security clearance doesn't gain you permission to take classified documents from the workplace. Taking classified documents from the workplace is how you lose your security clearance and end up in jail.",
">\n\n‘When you’re a star, they let you do it.”",
">\n\nSounds Trumpish that Trump would advise Giuliani to do this, but are we to trust any statement made by Rudy Giuliani?",
">\n\nI never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever took any documents. I never got caught. I don’t remember ever taking any documents. \nSounds legit",
">\n\nAlthough slimy as hell would he need clearance to view tax returns?\nDoesn’t seem like a national security issue. But I’m not an attorney. \nAnd by his statements it doesn’t sound like Rudi is either. Holy shit do his statements sound like that if a non lawyer.",
">\n\nGiuliani, if smart, should have asked Trump to autograph one of those documents.",
">\n\nI bet they spent some time with Prince Andrew (and some other guys high up on that pyramid) on good ol epstein island as well, I bet there are some files and other things hidden there as well 🤔🤯",
">\n\nScum both of them",
">\n\nSo....if we were wondering whether or not Rudy ever got paid for all those lawsuits he filed in swing states in support of the Big Lie, now we know. Trumpy stiffed him, now he's willing to make a feeble attempt to toss Trumpy under the bus. (Image of hair dye dripping down his neck....)"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns",
">\n\nI feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense.",
">\n\nHaving a security clearance doesn't gain you permission to take classified documents from the workplace. Taking classified documents from the workplace is how you lose your security clearance and end up in jail.",
">\n\n‘When you’re a star, they let you do it.”",
">\n\nSounds Trumpish that Trump would advise Giuliani to do this, but are we to trust any statement made by Rudy Giuliani?",
">\n\nI never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever took any documents. I never got caught. I don’t remember ever taking any documents. \nSounds legit",
">\n\nAlthough slimy as hell would he need clearance to view tax returns?\nDoesn’t seem like a national security issue. But I’m not an attorney. \nAnd by his statements it doesn’t sound like Rudi is either. Holy shit do his statements sound like that if a non lawyer.",
">\n\nGiuliani, if smart, should have asked Trump to autograph one of those documents.",
">\n\nI bet they spent some time with Prince Andrew (and some other guys high up on that pyramid) on good ol epstein island as well, I bet there are some files and other things hidden there as well 🤔🤯",
">\n\nScum both of them",
">\n\nSo....if we were wondering whether or not Rudy ever got paid for all those lawsuits he filed in swing states in support of the Big Lie, now we know. Trumpy stiffed him, now he's willing to make a feeble attempt to toss Trumpy under the bus. (Image of hair dye dripping down his neck....)",
">\n\nSo, you were told to do illegal activities and you never reported that request? How the fuck are these people even allowed out of a prison?\nI have required self reporting in my job for certain unethical requests and if I accidentally share some information between coworkers of a different classification…. And my shit isn’t nearly the security risk as this kind of crap."
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Where’s the proof that Giuliani even said that? Or is it just a ploy to take the heat off of Biden…
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns",
">\n\nI feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense.",
">\n\nHaving a security clearance doesn't gain you permission to take classified documents from the workplace. Taking classified documents from the workplace is how you lose your security clearance and end up in jail.",
">\n\n‘When you’re a star, they let you do it.”",
">\n\nSounds Trumpish that Trump would advise Giuliani to do this, but are we to trust any statement made by Rudy Giuliani?",
">\n\nI never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever took any documents. I never got caught. I don’t remember ever taking any documents. \nSounds legit",
">\n\nAlthough slimy as hell would he need clearance to view tax returns?\nDoesn’t seem like a national security issue. But I’m not an attorney. \nAnd by his statements it doesn’t sound like Rudi is either. Holy shit do his statements sound like that if a non lawyer.",
">\n\nGiuliani, if smart, should have asked Trump to autograph one of those documents.",
">\n\nI bet they spent some time with Prince Andrew (and some other guys high up on that pyramid) on good ol epstein island as well, I bet there are some files and other things hidden there as well 🤔🤯",
">\n\nScum both of them",
">\n\nSo....if we were wondering whether or not Rudy ever got paid for all those lawsuits he filed in swing states in support of the Big Lie, now we know. Trumpy stiffed him, now he's willing to make a feeble attempt to toss Trumpy under the bus. (Image of hair dye dripping down his neck....)",
">\n\nSo, you were told to do illegal activities and you never reported that request? How the fuck are these people even allowed out of a prison?\nI have required self reporting in my job for certain unethical requests and if I accidentally share some information between coworkers of a different classification…. And my shit isn’t nearly the security risk as this kind of crap.",
">\n\nSomeone’s upset the orange didn’t pay him"
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Quick, they found more top secret files in Biden’s possession! Throw off the heat onto this month olds nothing-burger that amounted to nothing!
President’s and their attorneys having access to top secret intel, color me shocked. Who gives a fuck?
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns",
">\n\nI feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense.",
">\n\nHaving a security clearance doesn't gain you permission to take classified documents from the workplace. Taking classified documents from the workplace is how you lose your security clearance and end up in jail.",
">\n\n‘When you’re a star, they let you do it.”",
">\n\nSounds Trumpish that Trump would advise Giuliani to do this, but are we to trust any statement made by Rudy Giuliani?",
">\n\nI never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever took any documents. I never got caught. I don’t remember ever taking any documents. \nSounds legit",
">\n\nAlthough slimy as hell would he need clearance to view tax returns?\nDoesn’t seem like a national security issue. But I’m not an attorney. \nAnd by his statements it doesn’t sound like Rudi is either. Holy shit do his statements sound like that if a non lawyer.",
">\n\nGiuliani, if smart, should have asked Trump to autograph one of those documents.",
">\n\nI bet they spent some time with Prince Andrew (and some other guys high up on that pyramid) on good ol epstein island as well, I bet there are some files and other things hidden there as well 🤔🤯",
">\n\nScum both of them",
">\n\nSo....if we were wondering whether or not Rudy ever got paid for all those lawsuits he filed in swing states in support of the Big Lie, now we know. Trumpy stiffed him, now he's willing to make a feeble attempt to toss Trumpy under the bus. (Image of hair dye dripping down his neck....)",
">\n\nSo, you were told to do illegal activities and you never reported that request? How the fuck are these people even allowed out of a prison?\nI have required self reporting in my job for certain unethical requests and if I accidentally share some information between coworkers of a different classification…. And my shit isn’t nearly the security risk as this kind of crap.",
">\n\nSomeone’s upset the orange didn’t pay him",
">\n\nWhere’s the proof that Giuliani even said that? Or is it just a ploy to take the heat off of Biden…"
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By they found, you must mean 'discovered and proactively reported for return'. Small distinction I know.
Kinda like how you're casually okay with the presidents PRIVATE (not white house counsel) attorney, without a security clearance, seeing top secret docs.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns",
">\n\nI feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense.",
">\n\nHaving a security clearance doesn't gain you permission to take classified documents from the workplace. Taking classified documents from the workplace is how you lose your security clearance and end up in jail.",
">\n\n‘When you’re a star, they let you do it.”",
">\n\nSounds Trumpish that Trump would advise Giuliani to do this, but are we to trust any statement made by Rudy Giuliani?",
">\n\nI never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever took any documents. I never got caught. I don’t remember ever taking any documents. \nSounds legit",
">\n\nAlthough slimy as hell would he need clearance to view tax returns?\nDoesn’t seem like a national security issue. But I’m not an attorney. \nAnd by his statements it doesn’t sound like Rudi is either. Holy shit do his statements sound like that if a non lawyer.",
">\n\nGiuliani, if smart, should have asked Trump to autograph one of those documents.",
">\n\nI bet they spent some time with Prince Andrew (and some other guys high up on that pyramid) on good ol epstein island as well, I bet there are some files and other things hidden there as well 🤔🤯",
">\n\nScum both of them",
">\n\nSo....if we were wondering whether or not Rudy ever got paid for all those lawsuits he filed in swing states in support of the Big Lie, now we know. Trumpy stiffed him, now he's willing to make a feeble attempt to toss Trumpy under the bus. (Image of hair dye dripping down his neck....)",
">\n\nSo, you were told to do illegal activities and you never reported that request? How the fuck are these people even allowed out of a prison?\nI have required self reporting in my job for certain unethical requests and if I accidentally share some information between coworkers of a different classification…. And my shit isn’t nearly the security risk as this kind of crap.",
">\n\nSomeone’s upset the orange didn’t pay him",
">\n\nWhere’s the proof that Giuliani even said that? Or is it just a ploy to take the heat off of Biden…",
">\n\nQuick, they found more top secret files in Biden’s possession! Throw off the heat onto this month olds nothing-burger that amounted to nothing! \nPresident’s and their attorneys having access to top secret intel, color me shocked. Who gives a fuck?"
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I’m interested in seeing a constant 6 plus year investigation into Biden and family performed with the same vigor the alphabet soup and corporate news media did with Trump and family. Wouldn’t that be just glorious to watch…
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns",
">\n\nI feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense.",
">\n\nHaving a security clearance doesn't gain you permission to take classified documents from the workplace. Taking classified documents from the workplace is how you lose your security clearance and end up in jail.",
">\n\n‘When you’re a star, they let you do it.”",
">\n\nSounds Trumpish that Trump would advise Giuliani to do this, but are we to trust any statement made by Rudy Giuliani?",
">\n\nI never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever took any documents. I never got caught. I don’t remember ever taking any documents. \nSounds legit",
">\n\nAlthough slimy as hell would he need clearance to view tax returns?\nDoesn’t seem like a national security issue. But I’m not an attorney. \nAnd by his statements it doesn’t sound like Rudi is either. Holy shit do his statements sound like that if a non lawyer.",
">\n\nGiuliani, if smart, should have asked Trump to autograph one of those documents.",
">\n\nI bet they spent some time with Prince Andrew (and some other guys high up on that pyramid) on good ol epstein island as well, I bet there are some files and other things hidden there as well 🤔🤯",
">\n\nScum both of them",
">\n\nSo....if we were wondering whether or not Rudy ever got paid for all those lawsuits he filed in swing states in support of the Big Lie, now we know. Trumpy stiffed him, now he's willing to make a feeble attempt to toss Trumpy under the bus. (Image of hair dye dripping down his neck....)",
">\n\nSo, you were told to do illegal activities and you never reported that request? How the fuck are these people even allowed out of a prison?\nI have required self reporting in my job for certain unethical requests and if I accidentally share some information between coworkers of a different classification…. And my shit isn’t nearly the security risk as this kind of crap.",
">\n\nSomeone’s upset the orange didn’t pay him",
">\n\nWhere’s the proof that Giuliani even said that? Or is it just a ploy to take the heat off of Biden…",
">\n\nQuick, they found more top secret files in Biden’s possession! Throw off the heat onto this month olds nothing-burger that amounted to nothing! \nPresident’s and their attorneys having access to top secret intel, color me shocked. Who gives a fuck?",
">\n\nBy they found, you must mean 'discovered and proactively reported for return'. Small distinction I know. \nKinda like how you're casually okay with the presidents PRIVATE (not white house counsel) attorney, without a security clearance, seeing top secret docs."
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns",
">\n\nI feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense.",
">\n\nHaving a security clearance doesn't gain you permission to take classified documents from the workplace. Taking classified documents from the workplace is how you lose your security clearance and end up in jail.",
">\n\n‘When you’re a star, they let you do it.”",
">\n\nSounds Trumpish that Trump would advise Giuliani to do this, but are we to trust any statement made by Rudy Giuliani?",
">\n\nI never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever took any documents. I never got caught. I don’t remember ever taking any documents. \nSounds legit",
">\n\nAlthough slimy as hell would he need clearance to view tax returns?\nDoesn’t seem like a national security issue. But I’m not an attorney. \nAnd by his statements it doesn’t sound like Rudi is either. Holy shit do his statements sound like that if a non lawyer.",
">\n\nGiuliani, if smart, should have asked Trump to autograph one of those documents.",
">\n\nI bet they spent some time with Prince Andrew (and some other guys high up on that pyramid) on good ol epstein island as well, I bet there are some files and other things hidden there as well 🤔🤯",
">\n\nScum both of them",
">\n\nSo....if we were wondering whether or not Rudy ever got paid for all those lawsuits he filed in swing states in support of the Big Lie, now we know. Trumpy stiffed him, now he's willing to make a feeble attempt to toss Trumpy under the bus. (Image of hair dye dripping down his neck....)",
">\n\nSo, you were told to do illegal activities and you never reported that request? How the fuck are these people even allowed out of a prison?\nI have required self reporting in my job for certain unethical requests and if I accidentally share some information between coworkers of a different classification…. And my shit isn’t nearly the security risk as this kind of crap.",
">\n\nSomeone’s upset the orange didn’t pay him",
">\n\nWhere’s the proof that Giuliani even said that? Or is it just a ploy to take the heat off of Biden…",
">\n\nQuick, they found more top secret files in Biden’s possession! Throw off the heat onto this month olds nothing-burger that amounted to nothing! \nPresident’s and their attorneys having access to top secret intel, color me shocked. Who gives a fuck?",
">\n\nBy they found, you must mean 'discovered and proactively reported for return'. Small distinction I know. \nKinda like how you're casually okay with the presidents PRIVATE (not white house counsel) attorney, without a security clearance, seeing top secret docs.",
">\n\nI’m interested in seeing a constant 6 plus year investigation into Biden and family performed with the same vigor the alphabet soup and corporate news media did with Trump and family. Wouldn’t that be just glorious to watch…"
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Don’t care…follow the money and see where it leads. The Dems have investigated all of Trumps family and associates for 6 plus years with nothing significant to show for it other than lies. Expose Biden to equal scrutiny and let’s see what happens. The Dems started this game or rather the DC establishment started it with the Dems out front. It’s time to figure out how the entire Biden family became filthy rich off a father, husband, brother etc that’s been a public servant his entire life. Ninety percent of DC is corrupt, time to start exposing it all on both sides.
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns",
">\n\nI feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense.",
">\n\nHaving a security clearance doesn't gain you permission to take classified documents from the workplace. Taking classified documents from the workplace is how you lose your security clearance and end up in jail.",
">\n\n‘When you’re a star, they let you do it.”",
">\n\nSounds Trumpish that Trump would advise Giuliani to do this, but are we to trust any statement made by Rudy Giuliani?",
">\n\nI never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever took any documents. I never got caught. I don’t remember ever taking any documents. \nSounds legit",
">\n\nAlthough slimy as hell would he need clearance to view tax returns?\nDoesn’t seem like a national security issue. But I’m not an attorney. \nAnd by his statements it doesn’t sound like Rudi is either. Holy shit do his statements sound like that if a non lawyer.",
">\n\nGiuliani, if smart, should have asked Trump to autograph one of those documents.",
">\n\nI bet they spent some time with Prince Andrew (and some other guys high up on that pyramid) on good ol epstein island as well, I bet there are some files and other things hidden there as well 🤔🤯",
">\n\nScum both of them",
">\n\nSo....if we were wondering whether or not Rudy ever got paid for all those lawsuits he filed in swing states in support of the Big Lie, now we know. Trumpy stiffed him, now he's willing to make a feeble attempt to toss Trumpy under the bus. (Image of hair dye dripping down his neck....)",
">\n\nSo, you were told to do illegal activities and you never reported that request? How the fuck are these people even allowed out of a prison?\nI have required self reporting in my job for certain unethical requests and if I accidentally share some information between coworkers of a different classification…. And my shit isn’t nearly the security risk as this kind of crap.",
">\n\nSomeone’s upset the orange didn’t pay him",
">\n\nWhere’s the proof that Giuliani even said that? Or is it just a ploy to take the heat off of Biden…",
">\n\nQuick, they found more top secret files in Biden’s possession! Throw off the heat onto this month olds nothing-burger that amounted to nothing! \nPresident’s and their attorneys having access to top secret intel, color me shocked. Who gives a fuck?",
">\n\nBy they found, you must mean 'discovered and proactively reported for return'. Small distinction I know. \nKinda like how you're casually okay with the presidents PRIVATE (not white house counsel) attorney, without a security clearance, seeing top secret docs.",
">\n\nI’m interested in seeing a constant 6 plus year investigation into Biden and family performed with the same vigor the alphabet soup and corporate news media did with Trump and family. Wouldn’t that be just glorious to watch…",
">\n\nAside from the First Lady, which of Biden’s family are a part of his administration?"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns",
">\n\nI feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense.",
">\n\nHaving a security clearance doesn't gain you permission to take classified documents from the workplace. Taking classified documents from the workplace is how you lose your security clearance and end up in jail.",
">\n\n‘When you’re a star, they let you do it.”",
">\n\nSounds Trumpish that Trump would advise Giuliani to do this, but are we to trust any statement made by Rudy Giuliani?",
">\n\nI never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever took any documents. I never got caught. I don’t remember ever taking any documents. \nSounds legit",
">\n\nAlthough slimy as hell would he need clearance to view tax returns?\nDoesn’t seem like a national security issue. But I’m not an attorney. \nAnd by his statements it doesn’t sound like Rudi is either. Holy shit do his statements sound like that if a non lawyer.",
">\n\nGiuliani, if smart, should have asked Trump to autograph one of those documents.",
">\n\nI bet they spent some time with Prince Andrew (and some other guys high up on that pyramid) on good ol epstein island as well, I bet there are some files and other things hidden there as well 🤔🤯",
">\n\nScum both of them",
">\n\nSo....if we were wondering whether or not Rudy ever got paid for all those lawsuits he filed in swing states in support of the Big Lie, now we know. Trumpy stiffed him, now he's willing to make a feeble attempt to toss Trumpy under the bus. (Image of hair dye dripping down his neck....)",
">\n\nSo, you were told to do illegal activities and you never reported that request? How the fuck are these people even allowed out of a prison?\nI have required self reporting in my job for certain unethical requests and if I accidentally share some information between coworkers of a different classification…. And my shit isn’t nearly the security risk as this kind of crap.",
">\n\nSomeone’s upset the orange didn’t pay him",
">\n\nWhere’s the proof that Giuliani even said that? Or is it just a ploy to take the heat off of Biden…",
">\n\nQuick, they found more top secret files in Biden’s possession! Throw off the heat onto this month olds nothing-burger that amounted to nothing! \nPresident’s and their attorneys having access to top secret intel, color me shocked. Who gives a fuck?",
">\n\nBy they found, you must mean 'discovered and proactively reported for return'. Small distinction I know. \nKinda like how you're casually okay with the presidents PRIVATE (not white house counsel) attorney, without a security clearance, seeing top secret docs.",
">\n\nI’m interested in seeing a constant 6 plus year investigation into Biden and family performed with the same vigor the alphabet soup and corporate news media did with Trump and family. Wouldn’t that be just glorious to watch…",
">\n\nAside from the First Lady, which of Biden’s family are a part of his administration?",
">\n\nDon’t care…follow the money and see where it leads. The Dems have investigated all of Trumps family and associates for 6 plus years with nothing significant to show for it other than lies. Expose Biden to equal scrutiny and let’s see what happens. The Dems started this game or rather the DC establishment started it with the Dems out front. It’s time to figure out how the entire Biden family became filthy rich off a father, husband, brother etc that’s been a public servant his entire life. Ninety percent of DC is corrupt, time to start exposing it all on both sides."
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I’ll withhold judgement until this story is picked up by a legit news organization. These folks have been one step above the National Inquirer for the most recent past
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns",
">\n\nI feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense.",
">\n\nHaving a security clearance doesn't gain you permission to take classified documents from the workplace. Taking classified documents from the workplace is how you lose your security clearance and end up in jail.",
">\n\n‘When you’re a star, they let you do it.”",
">\n\nSounds Trumpish that Trump would advise Giuliani to do this, but are we to trust any statement made by Rudy Giuliani?",
">\n\nI never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever took any documents. I never got caught. I don’t remember ever taking any documents. \nSounds legit",
">\n\nAlthough slimy as hell would he need clearance to view tax returns?\nDoesn’t seem like a national security issue. But I’m not an attorney. \nAnd by his statements it doesn’t sound like Rudi is either. Holy shit do his statements sound like that if a non lawyer.",
">\n\nGiuliani, if smart, should have asked Trump to autograph one of those documents.",
">\n\nI bet they spent some time with Prince Andrew (and some other guys high up on that pyramid) on good ol epstein island as well, I bet there are some files and other things hidden there as well 🤔🤯",
">\n\nScum both of them",
">\n\nSo....if we were wondering whether or not Rudy ever got paid for all those lawsuits he filed in swing states in support of the Big Lie, now we know. Trumpy stiffed him, now he's willing to make a feeble attempt to toss Trumpy under the bus. (Image of hair dye dripping down his neck....)",
">\n\nSo, you were told to do illegal activities and you never reported that request? How the fuck are these people even allowed out of a prison?\nI have required self reporting in my job for certain unethical requests and if I accidentally share some information between coworkers of a different classification…. And my shit isn’t nearly the security risk as this kind of crap.",
">\n\nSomeone’s upset the orange didn’t pay him",
">\n\nWhere’s the proof that Giuliani even said that? Or is it just a ploy to take the heat off of Biden…",
">\n\nQuick, they found more top secret files in Biden’s possession! Throw off the heat onto this month olds nothing-burger that amounted to nothing! \nPresident’s and their attorneys having access to top secret intel, color me shocked. Who gives a fuck?",
">\n\nBy they found, you must mean 'discovered and proactively reported for return'. Small distinction I know. \nKinda like how you're casually okay with the presidents PRIVATE (not white house counsel) attorney, without a security clearance, seeing top secret docs.",
">\n\nI’m interested in seeing a constant 6 plus year investigation into Biden and family performed with the same vigor the alphabet soup and corporate news media did with Trump and family. Wouldn’t that be just glorious to watch…",
">\n\nAside from the First Lady, which of Biden’s family are a part of his administration?",
">\n\nDon’t care…follow the money and see where it leads. The Dems have investigated all of Trumps family and associates for 6 plus years with nothing significant to show for it other than lies. Expose Biden to equal scrutiny and let’s see what happens. The Dems started this game or rather the DC establishment started it with the Dems out front. It’s time to figure out how the entire Biden family became filthy rich off a father, husband, brother etc that’s been a public servant his entire life. Ninety percent of DC is corrupt, time to start exposing it all on both sides.",
">\n\nSo, none of Biden’s family are a part of his administration, then?"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns",
">\n\nI feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense.",
">\n\nHaving a security clearance doesn't gain you permission to take classified documents from the workplace. Taking classified documents from the workplace is how you lose your security clearance and end up in jail.",
">\n\n‘When you’re a star, they let you do it.”",
">\n\nSounds Trumpish that Trump would advise Giuliani to do this, but are we to trust any statement made by Rudy Giuliani?",
">\n\nI never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever took any documents. I never got caught. I don’t remember ever taking any documents. \nSounds legit",
">\n\nAlthough slimy as hell would he need clearance to view tax returns?\nDoesn’t seem like a national security issue. But I’m not an attorney. \nAnd by his statements it doesn’t sound like Rudi is either. Holy shit do his statements sound like that if a non lawyer.",
">\n\nGiuliani, if smart, should have asked Trump to autograph one of those documents.",
">\n\nI bet they spent some time with Prince Andrew (and some other guys high up on that pyramid) on good ol epstein island as well, I bet there are some files and other things hidden there as well 🤔🤯",
">\n\nScum both of them",
">\n\nSo....if we were wondering whether or not Rudy ever got paid for all those lawsuits he filed in swing states in support of the Big Lie, now we know. Trumpy stiffed him, now he's willing to make a feeble attempt to toss Trumpy under the bus. (Image of hair dye dripping down his neck....)",
">\n\nSo, you were told to do illegal activities and you never reported that request? How the fuck are these people even allowed out of a prison?\nI have required self reporting in my job for certain unethical requests and if I accidentally share some information between coworkers of a different classification…. And my shit isn’t nearly the security risk as this kind of crap.",
">\n\nSomeone’s upset the orange didn’t pay him",
">\n\nWhere’s the proof that Giuliani even said that? Or is it just a ploy to take the heat off of Biden…",
">\n\nQuick, they found more top secret files in Biden’s possession! Throw off the heat onto this month olds nothing-burger that amounted to nothing! \nPresident’s and their attorneys having access to top secret intel, color me shocked. Who gives a fuck?",
">\n\nBy they found, you must mean 'discovered and proactively reported for return'. Small distinction I know. \nKinda like how you're casually okay with the presidents PRIVATE (not white house counsel) attorney, without a security clearance, seeing top secret docs.",
">\n\nI’m interested in seeing a constant 6 plus year investigation into Biden and family performed with the same vigor the alphabet soup and corporate news media did with Trump and family. Wouldn’t that be just glorious to watch…",
">\n\nAside from the First Lady, which of Biden’s family are a part of his administration?",
">\n\nDon’t care…follow the money and see where it leads. The Dems have investigated all of Trumps family and associates for 6 plus years with nothing significant to show for it other than lies. Expose Biden to equal scrutiny and let’s see what happens. The Dems started this game or rather the DC establishment started it with the Dems out front. It’s time to figure out how the entire Biden family became filthy rich off a father, husband, brother etc that’s been a public servant his entire life. Ninety percent of DC is corrupt, time to start exposing it all on both sides.",
">\n\nSo, none of Biden’s family are a part of his administration, then?",
">\n\nI’ll withhold judgement until this story is picked up by a legit news organization. These folks have been one step above the National Inquirer for the most recent past"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns",
">\n\nI feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense.",
">\n\nHaving a security clearance doesn't gain you permission to take classified documents from the workplace. Taking classified documents from the workplace is how you lose your security clearance and end up in jail.",
">\n\n‘When you’re a star, they let you do it.”",
">\n\nSounds Trumpish that Trump would advise Giuliani to do this, but are we to trust any statement made by Rudy Giuliani?",
">\n\nI never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever took any documents. I never got caught. I don’t remember ever taking any documents. \nSounds legit",
">\n\nAlthough slimy as hell would he need clearance to view tax returns?\nDoesn’t seem like a national security issue. But I’m not an attorney. \nAnd by his statements it doesn’t sound like Rudi is either. Holy shit do his statements sound like that if a non lawyer.",
">\n\nGiuliani, if smart, should have asked Trump to autograph one of those documents.",
">\n\nI bet they spent some time with Prince Andrew (and some other guys high up on that pyramid) on good ol epstein island as well, I bet there are some files and other things hidden there as well 🤔🤯",
">\n\nScum both of them",
">\n\nSo....if we were wondering whether or not Rudy ever got paid for all those lawsuits he filed in swing states in support of the Big Lie, now we know. Trumpy stiffed him, now he's willing to make a feeble attempt to toss Trumpy under the bus. (Image of hair dye dripping down his neck....)",
">\n\nSo, you were told to do illegal activities and you never reported that request? How the fuck are these people even allowed out of a prison?\nI have required self reporting in my job for certain unethical requests and if I accidentally share some information between coworkers of a different classification…. And my shit isn’t nearly the security risk as this kind of crap.",
">\n\nSomeone’s upset the orange didn’t pay him",
">\n\nWhere’s the proof that Giuliani even said that? Or is it just a ploy to take the heat off of Biden…",
">\n\nQuick, they found more top secret files in Biden’s possession! Throw off the heat onto this month olds nothing-burger that amounted to nothing! \nPresident’s and their attorneys having access to top secret intel, color me shocked. Who gives a fuck?",
">\n\nBy they found, you must mean 'discovered and proactively reported for return'. Small distinction I know. \nKinda like how you're casually okay with the presidents PRIVATE (not white house counsel) attorney, without a security clearance, seeing top secret docs.",
">\n\nI’m interested in seeing a constant 6 plus year investigation into Biden and family performed with the same vigor the alphabet soup and corporate news media did with Trump and family. Wouldn’t that be just glorious to watch…",
">\n\nAside from the First Lady, which of Biden’s family are a part of his administration?",
">\n\nDon’t care…follow the money and see where it leads. The Dems have investigated all of Trumps family and associates for 6 plus years with nothing significant to show for it other than lies. Expose Biden to equal scrutiny and let’s see what happens. The Dems started this game or rather the DC establishment started it with the Dems out front. It’s time to figure out how the entire Biden family became filthy rich off a father, husband, brother etc that’s been a public servant his entire life. Ninety percent of DC is corrupt, time to start exposing it all on both sides.",
">\n\nSo, none of Biden’s family are a part of his administration, then?",
">\n\nI’ll withhold judgement until this story is picked up by a legit news organization. These folks have been one step above the National Inquirer for the most recent past",
">\n\nRat"
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"Did Rudy have security clearance to even view those documents?",
">\n\nNone of Trumps top advisors (including all his kids) could pass security clearance standards.",
">\n\nYet they held them :P. At least Kushner did.",
">\n\nThey all did, Kushner was the one who immediately rose suspection.",
">\n\nTrump had to personally step in to grant Kush his clearance because he kept getting caught lying on his application forms.",
">\n\nHow did he give him clearance, just thinking about it?",
">\n\nHe just had to say . \"You now have top secret clearance . \"",
">\n\nI didn't know that Jabba the Hutt had jedi mind powers...",
">\n\nCome on, even the most corrupt crimelord in a Galaxy Far, Far Away paid his subcontractors and ran an efficient criminal enterprise.\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino, and I still have yet to truly understand how he failed a place that is designed to seperate people from their money. Aside from being so shitty no one would be seen there which sounds about on par for his 'brand'.",
">\n\n\nTrump managed to bankrupt a casino,\n\nthats not quite accurate\ni think it was 3 casinos at least.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nFor the love of god please please shut up.",
">\n\nTalking about the formatting of top secret docs is literally giving away classified information. How is this guy not in prison yet?",
">\n\nThat guy was president.., that’s why.\nRemember when a game show host ran for president?\nDo you remember thinking it was a complete joke? \nAnd then that pathetic liar and ruiner of lives actually won?\nThat’s why… \n…cuz half of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school",
">\n\n\nhalf of this country “hated school”…and is also ironically still stuck in high school\n\nThis hits hard. While there's no simple explanation for what's happening, I feel this hits the nail on the head. So much I think many \"conservatives\" and \"centrists\" would agree.",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nUm what?",
">\n\nVery legal. Very cool.",
">\n\nI mean, it's so casual for them to be doing this that they are talking about it openly. So I guess this is how our government is run?",
">\n\nWell It's how Trump's government was run.",
">\n\nReferring to a government under a certain president’s term as their government is common practice. Things and the procedures by which they happen change drastically with the new leader nearly every time.\nThough, to your point, it has been the same shitstorm for a while now.\nPointless comment over and out. o7",
">\n\nWhat is the play here by Giuliani… what is he up to",
">\n\nTrump didn't pay him for his work promoting the big lie and trying to get the election overturned, so....",
">\n\nThey definitely have mutual dirt on each other going back decades.\nThe idiot almost said as much in public, saying that he had \"insurance.\"\nIt kind of explains the desperation. Not the idiocy, though.",
">\n\nBut I don’t see endless headlines to get Julie in any legal trouble. I wonder if this is an attempt to save his own ass through some deal.",
">\n\nI'm just very confused. Giuliani had no right to look at classified documents, let alone take them home. Now he said he never took any home, but did he even read them? Just cause he's the President's lawyer, that doesn't automatically give some clearance right?",
">\n\nI’ve never seen that and wish I hadn’t to be honest. So gross.",
">\n\nDid they hand out top secret documents in maralargo like some sort of goodie bag? \nLike here is a diet coke, cheesburger Maga hat and some top secret satellite photos of Iranian nuke sites.",
">\n\n\"What's your net worth? Ooooh, nice! Have a complimentary nuclear secret!\"\n\"Dude, I just wanna know how to get to the pool.\"",
">\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"",
">\n\nGiuliani sounds guilty as hell to me.",
">\n\n\nI never, ever ever ever ever\n\nWords of an innocent man I tell ya",
">\n\n\"and I never got caught\" lol",
">\n\nHe said the thing he wasn’t supposed to say out loud.",
">\n\nI believe at least two things are in play here.\n1st, and most importantly, Trump took those documents to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis. I absolutely believe this happened.\nThe other is that Trump is a grandiose narcissistic braggart. He took those documents just so that he could brag to people that he has possession of TS documents.",
">\n\nIs there any reporting on the 1st assumption?",
">\n\nNothing that would stand up in court. Just circumstantial stuff as far as I know right now. There were apparently nuclear documents, but I don't know what type of information was in them, and we know about the Saudi involvement with Kushner and the golf tournament thing with Trump.",
">\n\nAh okay, just curious.",
">\n\nand Giuliani is the type that can't seem to keep his mouth shut lol",
">\n\nHe basically admitting that not only did people who shouldn't have seen them look at top secret documents but in all likelihood many of them brought them home.\nIf I was the FBI I'd bring this to the judge as probable cause to search half a dozen trump associate properties for top secret documents.",
">\n\nHe took documents home",
">\n\nAt least he never got caught.",
">\n\nI hear no one still knows about it!",
">\n\nEveryone knows people are saying that",
">\n\nRudy is trying to get paid for a 6 figure or maybe even 7 figure legal bill. So if he floats this idea at a time when the special prosecutor is tightening his noose he may get Trump to pay him. Birds of a feather. They truly deserve each other. Yuck!",
">\n\nSo who here thinks if Rudy is saying he didn't out of the cleat blue sky, someone should check it out?\nAlso... \"Vetting rich people?\" That is a really weird way of saying,\"picking cabinet members.\" That seems a little telling.",
">\n\nTranslation: \"Juicy Research to keep the person in line in case they think about turning\"",
">\n\nThis guy might be super stupid to confessing openly about this treason!",
">\n\nWorst case scenario he does 3-6 months in a privately operated prison for wealthy celebrities. He can admit to murder and offer evidence of it and it'd still be years before he served those 6 months",
">\n\nOur systems have totally failed us. Intelligence, DOJ and inmoral politicians who placed party and greed over country!",
">\n\n\nRudy Giuliani says Trump once told him to take top-secret documents home. Giuliani said the incident occurred just after Trump became president, when he was working at Mar-a-Lago. [emphasis mine]\n\nNot the least bit surprising.\nAlso wouldn't be surprising if it is ultimately discovered that Trump has been stealing classified documents and selling them to hostile foreign interests from the moment he first set foot in - and stained - the Oval Office w/his presence.\nI believe Trump's meetings w/Russian oligarchs, Putin, etc., where no U.S. press , or even a translator were allowed were tip offs, red flags that went ignored.",
">\n\nEver wonder why North Korea's Ballistic Missles started flying straighter and longer from the time after Trump started meeting with \"his favorite little dictator?\"",
">\n\nNo, you don't start to get empathy for what he told you to do. You did it, you complied, and you covered for it. You and all the other cronies should go right down with him. You don't get to come up later and point blame at him. You're just as despicable. Lock 'em all up!",
">\n\n\"Never got caught\"...yeah, he's totally innocent.",
">\n\nAlways figured Rudy would flip quickly.",
">\n\nNot to worry they were safely secured at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping in NE Philly",
">\n\nnah... the SCIF is at the Dildo Emporium.\nDo you even Top Secret dude?",
">\n\nRepublicans: Oh yeah! Well Champ advised Biden to take home Classified documents too!",
">\n\nsome mondays i can identify the specific thing that pushed me into \"i hate mondays\" mode. today it's the re-realization that rudy giuliani had access to real government secrets. rudy cousin-fucking giuliani.",
">\n\nHe is a lawyer. He cannot plead ignorance on matters of law.",
">\n\nPleading ignorance doesn’t work for anyone. If it did, Trump would be home free.",
">\n\nTrump is home free.",
">\n\nI have a hypothesis that Giuliani went after the Italian and Irish mafia in NYC to make way for the Russian mafia.",
">\n\nSounds possible. The timing is perfect.",
">\n\nGlad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the timing was perfect :)",
">\n\n\n\"He told me, 'Oh, take them home with you,'\" Giuliani said of Trump. \"I'm not going to take Wilbur Ross' tax returns home with me. I could misplace them!\"\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\nGiuliani also said top secret files are \"very, very strange the way they're put together\" and \"often are very small, but they contain a lot of information.\"\n\nThis guy is a liar and crook, so it’s hard to take anything he says seriously. That said, as someone who actually works with classified information regularly, he sounds like someone who has never been exposed to anything classified in his life. \nIndividuals’ tax returns are not classified. There may be sharing restrictions on them—and it’s probably prohibited for Giuliani to have had them at his disposal for whatever the hell kind of “vetting” he was doing, but that’s another matter—but that doesn’t make them classified. Certainly not “top secret” anyway. \nFurthermore, there is absolutely nothing strange about the composition of top secret files. They just get printed onto regular letter-sized paper. They are as big or as small as they need to be to make the point they’re aiming to make. If anything, they are artificially larger than they’d need to be because sometimes the author will break out less or more classified points into discrete paragraphs with different portion markings to allow the information to be shared appropriately in other contexts.",
">\n\nHad to scroll halfway through the comments to find this. Tax returns aren’t classified. And definitely not top secret.",
">\n\nThere ya go, Giuliani. Keep on a talkin'.",
">\n\nYou get a top secret file. You get a top secret file. YOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\nCheck under your seats.",
">\n\n\nYOU ALL GET A TOP SECRET FILE!\n\nPlease stop abusing all caps.",
">\n\nPay your lawyers Donnie.",
">\n\nAll the little shit birds are singing.",
">\n\nHow nerve racking it must be to know your cohorts can flip on you as soon as they need to save their own ass or deem you too dangerous in association.",
">\n\nBut Hunter Biden’s laptop!!!",
">\n\nWhy aren’t these people in prison now?",
">\n\nSo let me get this straight. Trump screamed like a banshee when faced with having anyone see his own tax returns yet it was perfectly fine for him and Giuliani to 'vet' other peoples returns such as Wilbur Ross - I expect hypocrisy from Trump but showing them to Giuliani must surely be illegal.",
">\n\nThere's a reason clearances exist. It makes no godamn sense why the president doesn't need to be held to the same standard for top secret as any other personal in the DoD.",
">\n\nRudy feeling left out",
">\n\nI thought Rudy was the lawyer. Why is he taking advice from trump?",
">\n\nyeah, I thought Rudy was the one who is supposed to be advising Trump",
">\n\nWell I don’t think he ever gave him helpful advice lol",
">\n\nRemember how Rudy said he had Hunter's laptop? Pepperidge Farms remembers.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day\n\n \n\"knowingly\" seems like an important word in that sentence as the classified documents laws talk about taking the docs with intent. So I think this is him saying that he didnt break the law with intent so no harm, no foul.\nGiuliani CYA.",
">\n\nWhen the Archives and FBI say ‘Top Secret’ they’re not talking about tax returns. Rudy scrambling to deflect something… get the search warrants boys.",
">\n\nThe devil made him do it.",
">\n\nHas the worm turned?",
">\n\nSantos made the same comment😂",
">\n\nThe final rat is jumping off the ship...",
">\n\nOh Rudy, don't take your docs to town...",
">\n\nCan’t stump the Trump Rudy. He throws you under the bus, not other way around.",
">\n\nEveryone shoots the body",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani: Legal bills piling up? Just grab some of these classified docs in my basement to our Russian oligarch contacts...and you'll be sitting pretty.\nProblem solved. Right Repubs?",
">\n\nLove it when the rats turn on each other.",
">\n\nThis guy is scum",
">\n\nI feel like Rudy misses the attention.",
">\n\nI wonder if Rudy had a clearance high enough to look at these documents. Probably not.",
">\n\nTop Secret is supposed to be transported under two-person accountability. Yet another attempted flaunting of procedure.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nGiuliani is in serious trouble. His day is coming even if Trump’s prosecution is being slow rolled.",
">\n\nI think he’ll be dead before he ever sees prison or even a trial.",
">\n\nNext statement from Trump: \n“never met or even heard of this Rudy fellow. Who is he? Yeah, never heard of him…”",
">\n\nWhy is Giuliani still walking free? Let him talk from behind bars.",
">\n\nIt sounds like Rudy is starting to cooperate with the prosecution\nDonald Trump should have paid Rudy Giuliani what he owed him",
">\n\nIs this the start of Rudy turning on trump?",
">\n\nWell, that’s interesting. Apparently Trump believed that the tax returns of potential appointees would reveal potential red flags, and at the same time, fought for years to keep his own secret. How ironic will it be when the special counsel or the NY Attorney General use Trump’s,tax returns to convict him of something?\nAnd then there’s the tiny little issue of whether Rudy had the security clearances necessary to view classified documents. And who else did Trump have looking at classified documents? Did they have proper clearances?",
">\n\nSqueal lil’ pig. Squeal away.",
">\n\nDid he have a security clearance?",
">\n\nHmm is he willing to testify? If not, can't distinguish from any other garbage that leaves his mouth.",
">\n\nHe can be subpoenaed and asked about this story and what he said",
">\n\nIs Rudy turning on his master? Color me shocked.",
">\n\nWe know. He keeps them in his bedroom or his den.",
">\n\nFunny how rats turn on each other, and the other rats still act surprised.",
">\n\nOh Rudy. It’s a little late to try to save yourself there buddy.",
">\n\nThat's a top lawyer move",
">\n\ntrump giving his so-called lawyer legal advice is the most trump thing i can think of 😭",
">\n\nso is rudy outing trump to save himself or what? this is shocking as i thought they were like bffes.",
">\n\nBegs the question, does Rudy have any?",
">\n\nFlip flip flip, that’s the sound we’ll be hearing petty soon.",
">\n\nWhen you're a star they let you do it.",
">\n\nWait. How did he get those tax returns?\nEdit: I assume they are now in the Archives.",
">\n\nBetter than grabbing women by the pussy?",
">\n\nThis piece of shit…. 😑.",
">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if this is a confession, might want to go check Rudy’s closet…",
">\n\n“Look Rudy, just put them in your ass and was out the door, I promise no one will check”",
">\n\nDidn’t someone steal documents from the Archives by stuffing them down their pants recently? I think it was to write a book or some shit.",
">\n\nNext fbi raid… Rudy Giuliano’s house",
">\n\nSilly Rudy, \"devil made me do it\" was a valid defense in 1600s",
">\n\nI feel like the federal penal code should include “extremely stupid handling of classified documents”. \nThe sentence should be “stay in prison until you can persuade us you aren’t stupid.”",
">\n\nThe vast majority of secrets throughout history have been to cover up incompetence and / or corruption.",
">\n\n\nI — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc\n\nThis man has taken docs home. \"I never got caught\" is not what one says of something one did not do.\nI would wager this man has seen more \"docs\" than Howard Hughes and Bugs Bunny put together.",
">\n\nSure but some staffer of Biden’s accidentally put some in a box in some center somewhere and turned it over right away when found!!!! Outrage!",
">\n\nOk. Now we’ve finally come full circle. One of the biggest proponents of former potus is now turning against him. Im sure he knows a lot of incriminating stuff he could use to his advantage if he is charged.",
">\n\nOh Rudy, just go back to the Nosferatu set and climb in your coffin. Wait /s and a clarification. He looks just like Nosferatu from the 1920s film. It’ a vampire prop.",
">\n\n\n\"I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don’t remember ever taking a doc,\" Giuliani added. He said he would place documents in a small safe at his desk in Mar-a-Lago to be worked on the next day.\n\nUh.\nWtf. Lmao.\nHow is it okay to say such a thing out loud as the former legal counsel to the President of the United States early on in said presidency. \nThe right side of main stream media would have a frenzy of such an interview.",
">\n\n\"Here hold onto this illegal shit for me.\"",
">\n\nTump just wants someone to share a cell with.",
">\n\nIs there no one worse to have your corner than Rudy? Jesus.",
">\n\nI thought when we elected Biden we were done hearing about Trump. I guess that was another lie…",
">\n\n\nGiuliani said he did not bring the documents home.\n\nHe absolutely fucking did.",
">\n\nI love this shit so much. I bet one day they will make a movie out of it. But a 2 hour movie aint gon do it. Need at least a trilogy. 4 hours per movie. \nHis whole presidency has been such a fuckin joke. Chaos from the beginning to the end.",
">\n\nOMG! This guy just keeps helping the cause, doesn’t he?!?!",
">\n\nRudy went from being the guy who too down the mob in NY to the guy who lackeys for a fraud",
">\n\nI just rewatched the Seinfeld episode with him. It was surreal... He was talking like a normal person and was... affable!? 😝",
">\n\nLol vetting people via tax returns but your boss trump won’t release his to the public. The irony",
">\n\nI’ll take: “Things that won’t be allowed in /r/Conservative for $200, Alex.”",
">\n\nRudy, you flippin?!",
">\n\nThe house of Trump NFT Trading Cards is falling apart.",
">\n\nHaven’t heard anything out of ol’ cousin fuckin’ rotten tooth Rudy in a while!",
">\n\nIt must of been open season for intelligence operatives from literally everywhere.",
">\n\nJesus, this poor bastard keeps ruining his legacy. He would have been known as the dude that took down the mafia, cleaned up New York and stood strong after 9/11. Now he is going down as a sweaty old creep, reading conspiracy theories next to a porn shop, and now a rat to top it off. I used to hate Guiliani, but I can't help but feel despair and pity for the guy. History will not be kind to him. And rightfully so.",
">\n\nI realized just now that Gulianni is that Scooby Doo meme where the gang yanks the mask off the bad guy & he says \"I woulda gotta away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.\" \nExcept he yanks the mask off himself, admits he did it all and then blames CNN or something.",
">\n\nYet you kept working for him.\nYou’re just as much to blame for enabling him.",
">\n\nI can't wait to hear how this is fake and how, all of a sudden, Rudy became a liberal plant for Joe Biden. \"hE jUsT cAnT bE tRuStEd\"",
">\n\nI was not aware that Rudy has a security clearance. Sounds like unauthorized access,",
">\n\nAnd here we see Ghouliana beginning to trghouly ghoulify. \nJokes aside, I see this clown biting the hand that fed him.",
">\n\nImagine being so stupid as to vote for these morons. \nDems and Cons rag on each other for voting for idiots, but at what point to Conservatives wake the fuck up and actually give a shit about what these criminals are doing?\nEnough with the “whataboutisms” from the two parties, start doing your fucking job. We elected these people to govern and all they do is throw shit at each other. \nThe country is falling apart and these pricks couldn’t care less as long as the other party is halted\nThe road of human history is paved in progression, I’m so fucking tired of these assholes trying to keep us in a shitty decade",
">\n\nThey watch and listen to media that tells R that D is an enemy. They paint a picture of the past that never existed and point the finger to why it's gone. \"There is the enemy. We will protect you.\"",
">\n\nWell trump was president. Why did Biden take all classified docs home. Especially Ukraine files.",
">\n\nYou only get half a penny for this one. Very low effort.",
">\n\nStill better than flushing them down the toilet, burning them in a fireplace and openly illegally obstructing their rightful return.",
">\n\nEating is a possibility too. Which begs the question, is eating them (digestion) a form of declassification? Inquiring minds want to know.",
">\n\nRudy’s made his choice",
">\n\nWhat about Biden?! /s",
">\n\nOh Rudy, you have got to be kidding yourself. When will you stop being such a hypocrite to the point that you can’t even think of anything else",
">\n\nRudy looking at the news going \"god dammit trump, I told you to leave my name out of the statements!\"",
">\n\nI'm sure Rudy was only too happy to to show his extended family and friends how powerful he is by possessing Top Secret documents. Rudy was always about the power and the money, not the quality of stewardship he gave his city, his state or his country.\nBiden and Trump shouldn't have been so careless with those documents. In the case of Trump it goes way way beyond mishandling; so he needs to face sever penalties for it.\nErasing hard drives and mishandling sensitive documents is out of control in the US politics.",
">\n\nNot again..\nPlease keep this *king vampire out of the news cycle.",
">\n\nTrump to Giuliani - you are not helping!",
">\n\nThis seems like the kind of info someone might proffer if they were trying to cop a deal.",
">\n\nGiuliani said he was at Mar-a-Lago, working on \"vetting\" some \"very rich\" people — specifically, going through their tax returns for Trump. \n\nHow is it legal for Trump or Giuliani to look at people's tax returns?",
">\n\nAny of these Trump clowns have zero credibility anymore. Including the head clown. They should all shut up and be glad they are not in prison. We can only hope that changes in the near future.",
">\n\nWho knows what this lush says?",
">\n\n'I never knowingly.. and I never got caught.. I don't remember taking any document home'. \nGuilty.",
">\n\nAs the worm turns",
">\n\nYankee World Series ring. Did he play third base?",
">\n\nRudy over the top with a fatality to Trump!!!",
">\n\nEt tu, Rudy?",
">\n\nAs a lawyer that's too be expected. Nothing to see here, unless he didn't bother to get clearance, or was advised to keep them indefinitely, or... oh. Oh dear.",
">\n\nflip much",
">\n\nImpeach him",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani also said someone tried to murder him in a super market. I wouldn’t read to much into this Four Seasons boot licker.",
">\n\nRudy will deny he said any of that",
">\n\nWhy is this Criminal still waking around free?",
">\n\nPersonal information would not be classified as \"Top Secret\" - that classification is reserved for information whose compromise would cause \"exceptionally grave\" damage to national security. I think there is probably some hyperbole involved on the part of Giuliani - I've noticed that there are many people, especially those who are trying to score political points who like to refer to any classified documents as \"Top Secret.\" That said, I don't doubt that Giuliani has been involved in some very dodgy activities.",
">\n\nA drunk and a meth addict walked into a bar..,",
">\n\nWasn't Giuliani all over Trump's pink Arss, now he's Trump public enemy #1",
">\n\nHis sycophants turning on him is delicious",
">\n\nTired of all these clowns.",
">\n\nHe only took them home 'once' because usually he immediately handed the documents off to one of his Russian connections.",
">\n\nSeems like they have way too many of these files and are just handing them out to everyone that will take them.",
">\n\nWorst attorney ever",
">\n\nTrump is to Mao what Mao was to Hitler was to Napoleon III was to JFK I guess\n::::;:::::::;:;::::::::::;\nI don't believe it's appropriate to take top secret files. Those files belong with the CIA the most trustworthy, virtuous institution ever!\nNot with our enemies who are very bad and enemy like",
">\n\nYes, we all know you guys committed every crime",
">\n\nAll these fools need decertification of any handling of any classified material and go through retraining.",
">\n\nIsn't the advising part supposed to be the other way around?",
">\n\nWhy don’t you talk about the files that are being found in a number of Biden’s houses? Some if not all while he was just a Vice President. This is happening right now by the way, cheers.",
">\n\nNobody is denying it.",
">\n\nRudy Giuliani wants a cookie for not taking top-secret files home.",
">\n\nNot sure why people act so suprised when they find out a politician is corrupt",
">\n\nWhat a horribly written “article”.",
">\n\nWhoever they are blackmailing is shitting their pants right now",
">\n\nYeah but whaddaboud Biden?!",
">\n\nMan I can’t wait for a documentary to come out in 5+ years about this whole entire administration because boy oh boy there’s a lot!!",
">\n\nPeople starting to talk.",
">\n\nIt’s not illegal when the President does it.\nThat’s the rule, right?\nI heard that somewhere.",
">\n\nHonestly the fact that both Trump and Biden have been caught classified material in unapproved locations just shows the disregard for the process. I wager that Bush 43 or even Clinton has some classified documents floating around",
">\n\nPeak draining the swamp energy right here",
">\n\nDid he just downplay this lol",
">\n\nHow real is this story \nBecause I don’t believe he is properly vetted to view let alone take top secret documents \nHow much further can we go down the path \nOf law and order before there is law and order \nFucking fart bags",
">\n\nNow his melted hair is all over the files",
">\n\nRudy Rudy Rudy oh Rudy",
">\n\nFJB Trump2024",
">\n\nI didn’t know he could read",
">\n\nAnd the Nazi said, I mean Giuliani said, sure, no problem. \nJust following orders.",
">\n\nAnd the worm turns",
">\n\nI feel like any conversation between Trump and Giuliani would be just pure crazy nonsense yelling at other pure crazy nonsense.",
">\n\nHaving a security clearance doesn't gain you permission to take classified documents from the workplace. Taking classified documents from the workplace is how you lose your security clearance and end up in jail.",
">\n\n‘When you’re a star, they let you do it.”",
">\n\nSounds Trumpish that Trump would advise Giuliani to do this, but are we to trust any statement made by Rudy Giuliani?",
">\n\nI never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever took any documents. I never got caught. I don’t remember ever taking any documents. \nSounds legit",
">\n\nAlthough slimy as hell would he need clearance to view tax returns?\nDoesn’t seem like a national security issue. But I’m not an attorney. \nAnd by his statements it doesn’t sound like Rudi is either. Holy shit do his statements sound like that if a non lawyer.",
">\n\nGiuliani, if smart, should have asked Trump to autograph one of those documents.",
">\n\nI bet they spent some time with Prince Andrew (and some other guys high up on that pyramid) on good ol epstein island as well, I bet there are some files and other things hidden there as well 🤔🤯",
">\n\nScum both of them",
">\n\nSo....if we were wondering whether or not Rudy ever got paid for all those lawsuits he filed in swing states in support of the Big Lie, now we know. Trumpy stiffed him, now he's willing to make a feeble attempt to toss Trumpy under the bus. (Image of hair dye dripping down his neck....)",
">\n\nSo, you were told to do illegal activities and you never reported that request? How the fuck are these people even allowed out of a prison?\nI have required self reporting in my job for certain unethical requests and if I accidentally share some information between coworkers of a different classification…. And my shit isn’t nearly the security risk as this kind of crap.",
">\n\nSomeone’s upset the orange didn’t pay him",
">\n\nWhere’s the proof that Giuliani even said that? Or is it just a ploy to take the heat off of Biden…",
">\n\nQuick, they found more top secret files in Biden’s possession! Throw off the heat onto this month olds nothing-burger that amounted to nothing! \nPresident’s and their attorneys having access to top secret intel, color me shocked. Who gives a fuck?",
">\n\nBy they found, you must mean 'discovered and proactively reported for return'. Small distinction I know. \nKinda like how you're casually okay with the presidents PRIVATE (not white house counsel) attorney, without a security clearance, seeing top secret docs.",
">\n\nI’m interested in seeing a constant 6 plus year investigation into Biden and family performed with the same vigor the alphabet soup and corporate news media did with Trump and family. Wouldn’t that be just glorious to watch…",
">\n\nAside from the First Lady, which of Biden’s family are a part of his administration?",
">\n\nDon’t care…follow the money and see where it leads. The Dems have investigated all of Trumps family and associates for 6 plus years with nothing significant to show for it other than lies. Expose Biden to equal scrutiny and let’s see what happens. The Dems started this game or rather the DC establishment started it with the Dems out front. It’s time to figure out how the entire Biden family became filthy rich off a father, husband, brother etc that’s been a public servant his entire life. Ninety percent of DC is corrupt, time to start exposing it all on both sides.",
">\n\nSo, none of Biden’s family are a part of his administration, then?",
">\n\nI’ll withhold judgement until this story is picked up by a legit news organization. These folks have been one step above the National Inquirer for the most recent past",
">\n\nRat",
">\n\nSo you dislike transparency in government?"
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I'm going to show this to my dog but I honestly don't think she'll pay attention.
She is dead set ready to kill those squirrels!
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Does anyone else ever start guessing states when they see these stories?
Edit: It's Texas. Texas was my second guess. Florida and then Texas.
((I'm a Texan.)
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I used to live near Bandera. This is also very close to Fredericksburg and Gillespie County where a bunch of trump nuts basically pushed out any sane election workers because of their stupid voter fraud claims.
Mind you, these counties are VERY RED, so like… voter fraud would be really obvious if suddenly democrats were winning in these counties. But they’re not.
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Striegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer,
The GQP is corrupt at the top levels. Is anyone surprised?
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">\n\nI used to live near Bandera. This is also very close to Fredericksburg and Gillespie County where a bunch of trump nuts basically pushed out any sane election workers because of their stupid voter fraud claims. \nMind you, these counties are VERY RED, so like… voter fraud would be really obvious if suddenly democrats were winning in these counties. But they’re not."
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This is the opposite of the top levels
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">\n\nI used to live near Bandera. This is also very close to Fredericksburg and Gillespie County where a bunch of trump nuts basically pushed out any sane election workers because of their stupid voter fraud claims. \nMind you, these counties are VERY RED, so like… voter fraud would be really obvious if suddenly democrats were winning in these counties. But they’re not.",
">\n\n\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, \n\nThe GQP is corrupt at the top levels. Is anyone surprised?"
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The pair, which is accused of presenting a forged document to cut off the bank access of another GOP official, was booked into the Bandera County Jail Friday on the state jail felony charge.
Striegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, multiple people associated with the investigation told KSAT.
The criminal case, spearheaded by the Texas Attorney General’s Office, was launched last year after then-chairperson Lynn Haueter was locked out of accessing the group’s bank accounts.
Whattayaknow - Ken Paxton's office is actually going after some GOP party officials. I guess the "another GOP official" victim had better connections than the perps did
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">\n\nI used to live near Bandera. This is also very close to Fredericksburg and Gillespie County where a bunch of trump nuts basically pushed out any sane election workers because of their stupid voter fraud claims. \nMind you, these counties are VERY RED, so like… voter fraud would be really obvious if suddenly democrats were winning in these counties. But they’re not.",
">\n\n\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, \n\nThe GQP is corrupt at the top levels. Is anyone surprised?",
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If this was a democrat doing this, Ken Paxton would be publicizing this and they will claim this is proof 2020 was rigged. Queue the conspiracies
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">\n\nI used to live near Bandera. This is also very close to Fredericksburg and Gillespie County where a bunch of trump nuts basically pushed out any sane election workers because of their stupid voter fraud claims. \nMind you, these counties are VERY RED, so like… voter fraud would be really obvious if suddenly democrats were winning in these counties. But they’re not.",
">\n\n\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, \n\nThe GQP is corrupt at the top levels. Is anyone surprised?",
">\n\nThis is the opposite of the top levels",
">\n\n\nThe pair, which is accused of presenting a forged document to cut off the bank access of another GOP official, was booked into the Bandera County Jail Friday on the state jail felony charge.\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, multiple people associated with the investigation told KSAT.\nThe criminal case, spearheaded by the Texas Attorney General’s Office, was launched last year after then-chairperson Lynn Haueter was locked out of accessing the group’s bank accounts.\n\nWhattayaknow - Ken Paxton's office is actually going after some GOP party officials. I guess the \"another GOP official\" victim had better connections than the perps did"
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Did they just steal the $, someone else was going to steal?
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"Does anyone else ever start guessing states when they see these stories?\n\n\nEdit: It's Texas. Texas was my second guess. Florida and then Texas. \n((I'm a Texan.)",
">\n\nI used to live near Bandera. This is also very close to Fredericksburg and Gillespie County where a bunch of trump nuts basically pushed out any sane election workers because of their stupid voter fraud claims. \nMind you, these counties are VERY RED, so like… voter fraud would be really obvious if suddenly democrats were winning in these counties. But they’re not.",
">\n\n\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, \n\nThe GQP is corrupt at the top levels. Is anyone surprised?",
">\n\nThis is the opposite of the top levels",
">\n\n\nThe pair, which is accused of presenting a forged document to cut off the bank access of another GOP official, was booked into the Bandera County Jail Friday on the state jail felony charge.\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, multiple people associated with the investigation told KSAT.\nThe criminal case, spearheaded by the Texas Attorney General’s Office, was launched last year after then-chairperson Lynn Haueter was locked out of accessing the group’s bank accounts.\n\nWhattayaknow - Ken Paxton's office is actually going after some GOP party officials. I guess the \"another GOP official\" victim had better connections than the perps did",
">\n\nIf this was a democrat doing this, Ken Paxton would be publicizing this and they will claim this is proof 2020 was rigged. Queue the conspiracies"
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Follow the money ... but when the GOP is involved.. prepare to get dizzy.
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"Does anyone else ever start guessing states when they see these stories?\n\n\nEdit: It's Texas. Texas was my second guess. Florida and then Texas. \n((I'm a Texan.)",
">\n\nI used to live near Bandera. This is also very close to Fredericksburg and Gillespie County where a bunch of trump nuts basically pushed out any sane election workers because of their stupid voter fraud claims. \nMind you, these counties are VERY RED, so like… voter fraud would be really obvious if suddenly democrats were winning in these counties. But they’re not.",
">\n\n\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, \n\nThe GQP is corrupt at the top levels. Is anyone surprised?",
">\n\nThis is the opposite of the top levels",
">\n\n\nThe pair, which is accused of presenting a forged document to cut off the bank access of another GOP official, was booked into the Bandera County Jail Friday on the state jail felony charge.\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, multiple people associated with the investigation told KSAT.\nThe criminal case, spearheaded by the Texas Attorney General’s Office, was launched last year after then-chairperson Lynn Haueter was locked out of accessing the group’s bank accounts.\n\nWhattayaknow - Ken Paxton's office is actually going after some GOP party officials. I guess the \"another GOP official\" victim had better connections than the perps did",
">\n\nIf this was a democrat doing this, Ken Paxton would be publicizing this and they will claim this is proof 2020 was rigged. Queue the conspiracies",
">\n\nDid they just steal the $, someone else was going to steal?"
] |
>
When they go to court, I want to see someone there, reading the book "the subtle art of not giving a fuck".
|
[
"Does anyone else ever start guessing states when they see these stories?\n\n\nEdit: It's Texas. Texas was my second guess. Florida and then Texas. \n((I'm a Texan.)",
">\n\nI used to live near Bandera. This is also very close to Fredericksburg and Gillespie County where a bunch of trump nuts basically pushed out any sane election workers because of their stupid voter fraud claims. \nMind you, these counties are VERY RED, so like… voter fraud would be really obvious if suddenly democrats were winning in these counties. But they’re not.",
">\n\n\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, \n\nThe GQP is corrupt at the top levels. Is anyone surprised?",
">\n\nThis is the opposite of the top levels",
">\n\n\nThe pair, which is accused of presenting a forged document to cut off the bank access of another GOP official, was booked into the Bandera County Jail Friday on the state jail felony charge.\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, multiple people associated with the investigation told KSAT.\nThe criminal case, spearheaded by the Texas Attorney General’s Office, was launched last year after then-chairperson Lynn Haueter was locked out of accessing the group’s bank accounts.\n\nWhattayaknow - Ken Paxton's office is actually going after some GOP party officials. I guess the \"another GOP official\" victim had better connections than the perps did",
">\n\nIf this was a democrat doing this, Ken Paxton would be publicizing this and they will claim this is proof 2020 was rigged. Queue the conspiracies",
">\n\nDid they just steal the $, someone else was going to steal?",
">\n\nFollow the money ... but when the GOP is involved.. prepare to get dizzy."
] |
>
Republicans committing crimes that have to do with elections. I’m shocked!!
|
[
"Does anyone else ever start guessing states when they see these stories?\n\n\nEdit: It's Texas. Texas was my second guess. Florida and then Texas. \n((I'm a Texan.)",
">\n\nI used to live near Bandera. This is also very close to Fredericksburg and Gillespie County where a bunch of trump nuts basically pushed out any sane election workers because of their stupid voter fraud claims. \nMind you, these counties are VERY RED, so like… voter fraud would be really obvious if suddenly democrats were winning in these counties. But they’re not.",
">\n\n\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, \n\nThe GQP is corrupt at the top levels. Is anyone surprised?",
">\n\nThis is the opposite of the top levels",
">\n\n\nThe pair, which is accused of presenting a forged document to cut off the bank access of another GOP official, was booked into the Bandera County Jail Friday on the state jail felony charge.\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, multiple people associated with the investigation told KSAT.\nThe criminal case, spearheaded by the Texas Attorney General’s Office, was launched last year after then-chairperson Lynn Haueter was locked out of accessing the group’s bank accounts.\n\nWhattayaknow - Ken Paxton's office is actually going after some GOP party officials. I guess the \"another GOP official\" victim had better connections than the perps did",
">\n\nIf this was a democrat doing this, Ken Paxton would be publicizing this and they will claim this is proof 2020 was rigged. Queue the conspiracies",
">\n\nDid they just steal the $, someone else was going to steal?",
">\n\nFollow the money ... but when the GOP is involved.. prepare to get dizzy.",
">\n\nWhen they go to court, I want to see someone there, reading the book \"the subtle art of not giving a fuck\"."
] |
>
Very on-brand
|
[
"Does anyone else ever start guessing states when they see these stories?\n\n\nEdit: It's Texas. Texas was my second guess. Florida and then Texas. \n((I'm a Texan.)",
">\n\nI used to live near Bandera. This is also very close to Fredericksburg and Gillespie County where a bunch of trump nuts basically pushed out any sane election workers because of their stupid voter fraud claims. \nMind you, these counties are VERY RED, so like… voter fraud would be really obvious if suddenly democrats were winning in these counties. But they’re not.",
">\n\n\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, \n\nThe GQP is corrupt at the top levels. Is anyone surprised?",
">\n\nThis is the opposite of the top levels",
">\n\n\nThe pair, which is accused of presenting a forged document to cut off the bank access of another GOP official, was booked into the Bandera County Jail Friday on the state jail felony charge.\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, multiple people associated with the investigation told KSAT.\nThe criminal case, spearheaded by the Texas Attorney General’s Office, was launched last year after then-chairperson Lynn Haueter was locked out of accessing the group’s bank accounts.\n\nWhattayaknow - Ken Paxton's office is actually going after some GOP party officials. I guess the \"another GOP official\" victim had better connections than the perps did",
">\n\nIf this was a democrat doing this, Ken Paxton would be publicizing this and they will claim this is proof 2020 was rigged. Queue the conspiracies",
">\n\nDid they just steal the $, someone else was going to steal?",
">\n\nFollow the money ... but when the GOP is involved.. prepare to get dizzy.",
">\n\nWhen they go to court, I want to see someone there, reading the book \"the subtle art of not giving a fuck\".",
">\n\nRepublicans committing crimes that have to do with elections. I’m shocked!!"
] |
>
Lock them up
|
[
"Does anyone else ever start guessing states when they see these stories?\n\n\nEdit: It's Texas. Texas was my second guess. Florida and then Texas. \n((I'm a Texan.)",
">\n\nI used to live near Bandera. This is also very close to Fredericksburg and Gillespie County where a bunch of trump nuts basically pushed out any sane election workers because of their stupid voter fraud claims. \nMind you, these counties are VERY RED, so like… voter fraud would be really obvious if suddenly democrats were winning in these counties. But they’re not.",
">\n\n\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, \n\nThe GQP is corrupt at the top levels. Is anyone surprised?",
">\n\nThis is the opposite of the top levels",
">\n\n\nThe pair, which is accused of presenting a forged document to cut off the bank access of another GOP official, was booked into the Bandera County Jail Friday on the state jail felony charge.\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, multiple people associated with the investigation told KSAT.\nThe criminal case, spearheaded by the Texas Attorney General’s Office, was launched last year after then-chairperson Lynn Haueter was locked out of accessing the group’s bank accounts.\n\nWhattayaknow - Ken Paxton's office is actually going after some GOP party officials. I guess the \"another GOP official\" victim had better connections than the perps did",
">\n\nIf this was a democrat doing this, Ken Paxton would be publicizing this and they will claim this is proof 2020 was rigged. Queue the conspiracies",
">\n\nDid they just steal the $, someone else was going to steal?",
">\n\nFollow the money ... but when the GOP is involved.. prepare to get dizzy.",
">\n\nWhen they go to court, I want to see someone there, reading the book \"the subtle art of not giving a fuck\".",
">\n\nRepublicans committing crimes that have to do with elections. I’m shocked!!",
">\n\nVery on-brand"
] |
>
Republicans doing dirty republican tricks.
|
[
"Does anyone else ever start guessing states when they see these stories?\n\n\nEdit: It's Texas. Texas was my second guess. Florida and then Texas. \n((I'm a Texan.)",
">\n\nI used to live near Bandera. This is also very close to Fredericksburg and Gillespie County where a bunch of trump nuts basically pushed out any sane election workers because of their stupid voter fraud claims. \nMind you, these counties are VERY RED, so like… voter fraud would be really obvious if suddenly democrats were winning in these counties. But they’re not.",
">\n\n\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, \n\nThe GQP is corrupt at the top levels. Is anyone surprised?",
">\n\nThis is the opposite of the top levels",
">\n\n\nThe pair, which is accused of presenting a forged document to cut off the bank access of another GOP official, was booked into the Bandera County Jail Friday on the state jail felony charge.\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, multiple people associated with the investigation told KSAT.\nThe criminal case, spearheaded by the Texas Attorney General’s Office, was launched last year after then-chairperson Lynn Haueter was locked out of accessing the group’s bank accounts.\n\nWhattayaknow - Ken Paxton's office is actually going after some GOP party officials. I guess the \"another GOP official\" victim had better connections than the perps did",
">\n\nIf this was a democrat doing this, Ken Paxton would be publicizing this and they will claim this is proof 2020 was rigged. Queue the conspiracies",
">\n\nDid they just steal the $, someone else was going to steal?",
">\n\nFollow the money ... but when the GOP is involved.. prepare to get dizzy.",
">\n\nWhen they go to court, I want to see someone there, reading the book \"the subtle art of not giving a fuck\".",
">\n\nRepublicans committing crimes that have to do with elections. I’m shocked!!",
">\n\nVery on-brand",
">\n\nLock them up"
] |
>
is there a 'GOParrests' subreddit? It's hard to keep track...
|
[
"Does anyone else ever start guessing states when they see these stories?\n\n\nEdit: It's Texas. Texas was my second guess. Florida and then Texas. \n((I'm a Texan.)",
">\n\nI used to live near Bandera. This is also very close to Fredericksburg and Gillespie County where a bunch of trump nuts basically pushed out any sane election workers because of their stupid voter fraud claims. \nMind you, these counties are VERY RED, so like… voter fraud would be really obvious if suddenly democrats were winning in these counties. But they’re not.",
">\n\n\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, \n\nThe GQP is corrupt at the top levels. Is anyone surprised?",
">\n\nThis is the opposite of the top levels",
">\n\n\nThe pair, which is accused of presenting a forged document to cut off the bank access of another GOP official, was booked into the Bandera County Jail Friday on the state jail felony charge.\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, multiple people associated with the investigation told KSAT.\nThe criminal case, spearheaded by the Texas Attorney General’s Office, was launched last year after then-chairperson Lynn Haueter was locked out of accessing the group’s bank accounts.\n\nWhattayaknow - Ken Paxton's office is actually going after some GOP party officials. I guess the \"another GOP official\" victim had better connections than the perps did",
">\n\nIf this was a democrat doing this, Ken Paxton would be publicizing this and they will claim this is proof 2020 was rigged. Queue the conspiracies",
">\n\nDid they just steal the $, someone else was going to steal?",
">\n\nFollow the money ... but when the GOP is involved.. prepare to get dizzy.",
">\n\nWhen they go to court, I want to see someone there, reading the book \"the subtle art of not giving a fuck\".",
">\n\nRepublicans committing crimes that have to do with elections. I’m shocked!!",
">\n\nVery on-brand",
">\n\nLock them up",
">\n\nRepublicans doing dirty republican tricks."
] |
>
I believe a bunch are documented under r/CapitolConsequences but that sub may just cover arrests on J6
|
[
"Does anyone else ever start guessing states when they see these stories?\n\n\nEdit: It's Texas. Texas was my second guess. Florida and then Texas. \n((I'm a Texan.)",
">\n\nI used to live near Bandera. This is also very close to Fredericksburg and Gillespie County where a bunch of trump nuts basically pushed out any sane election workers because of their stupid voter fraud claims. \nMind you, these counties are VERY RED, so like… voter fraud would be really obvious if suddenly democrats were winning in these counties. But they’re not.",
">\n\n\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, \n\nThe GQP is corrupt at the top levels. Is anyone surprised?",
">\n\nThis is the opposite of the top levels",
">\n\n\nThe pair, which is accused of presenting a forged document to cut off the bank access of another GOP official, was booked into the Bandera County Jail Friday on the state jail felony charge.\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, multiple people associated with the investigation told KSAT.\nThe criminal case, spearheaded by the Texas Attorney General’s Office, was launched last year after then-chairperson Lynn Haueter was locked out of accessing the group’s bank accounts.\n\nWhattayaknow - Ken Paxton's office is actually going after some GOP party officials. I guess the \"another GOP official\" victim had better connections than the perps did",
">\n\nIf this was a democrat doing this, Ken Paxton would be publicizing this and they will claim this is proof 2020 was rigged. Queue the conspiracies",
">\n\nDid they just steal the $, someone else was going to steal?",
">\n\nFollow the money ... but when the GOP is involved.. prepare to get dizzy.",
">\n\nWhen they go to court, I want to see someone there, reading the book \"the subtle art of not giving a fuck\".",
">\n\nRepublicans committing crimes that have to do with elections. I’m shocked!!",
">\n\nVery on-brand",
">\n\nLock them up",
">\n\nRepublicans doing dirty republican tricks.",
">\n\nis there a 'GOParrests' subreddit? It's hard to keep track..."
] |
>
GOP somehow believe that the way to make elections safe is to not pay anyone?
|
[
"Does anyone else ever start guessing states when they see these stories?\n\n\nEdit: It's Texas. Texas was my second guess. Florida and then Texas. \n((I'm a Texan.)",
">\n\nI used to live near Bandera. This is also very close to Fredericksburg and Gillespie County where a bunch of trump nuts basically pushed out any sane election workers because of their stupid voter fraud claims. \nMind you, these counties are VERY RED, so like… voter fraud would be really obvious if suddenly democrats were winning in these counties. But they’re not.",
">\n\n\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, \n\nThe GQP is corrupt at the top levels. Is anyone surprised?",
">\n\nThis is the opposite of the top levels",
">\n\n\nThe pair, which is accused of presenting a forged document to cut off the bank access of another GOP official, was booked into the Bandera County Jail Friday on the state jail felony charge.\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, multiple people associated with the investigation told KSAT.\nThe criminal case, spearheaded by the Texas Attorney General’s Office, was launched last year after then-chairperson Lynn Haueter was locked out of accessing the group’s bank accounts.\n\nWhattayaknow - Ken Paxton's office is actually going after some GOP party officials. I guess the \"another GOP official\" victim had better connections than the perps did",
">\n\nIf this was a democrat doing this, Ken Paxton would be publicizing this and they will claim this is proof 2020 was rigged. Queue the conspiracies",
">\n\nDid they just steal the $, someone else was going to steal?",
">\n\nFollow the money ... but when the GOP is involved.. prepare to get dizzy.",
">\n\nWhen they go to court, I want to see someone there, reading the book \"the subtle art of not giving a fuck\".",
">\n\nRepublicans committing crimes that have to do with elections. I’m shocked!!",
">\n\nVery on-brand",
">\n\nLock them up",
">\n\nRepublicans doing dirty republican tricks.",
">\n\nis there a 'GOParrests' subreddit? It's hard to keep track...",
">\n\nI believe a bunch are documented under r/CapitolConsequences but that sub may just cover arrests on J6"
] |
>
Oh, goodness. TX GOP “leaders”? Lmao… I’d have never seen it coming.
|
[
"Does anyone else ever start guessing states when they see these stories?\n\n\nEdit: It's Texas. Texas was my second guess. Florida and then Texas. \n((I'm a Texan.)",
">\n\nI used to live near Bandera. This is also very close to Fredericksburg and Gillespie County where a bunch of trump nuts basically pushed out any sane election workers because of their stupid voter fraud claims. \nMind you, these counties are VERY RED, so like… voter fraud would be really obvious if suddenly democrats were winning in these counties. But they’re not.",
">\n\n\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, \n\nThe GQP is corrupt at the top levels. Is anyone surprised?",
">\n\nThis is the opposite of the top levels",
">\n\n\nThe pair, which is accused of presenting a forged document to cut off the bank access of another GOP official, was booked into the Bandera County Jail Friday on the state jail felony charge.\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, multiple people associated with the investigation told KSAT.\nThe criminal case, spearheaded by the Texas Attorney General’s Office, was launched last year after then-chairperson Lynn Haueter was locked out of accessing the group’s bank accounts.\n\nWhattayaknow - Ken Paxton's office is actually going after some GOP party officials. I guess the \"another GOP official\" victim had better connections than the perps did",
">\n\nIf this was a democrat doing this, Ken Paxton would be publicizing this and they will claim this is proof 2020 was rigged. Queue the conspiracies",
">\n\nDid they just steal the $, someone else was going to steal?",
">\n\nFollow the money ... but when the GOP is involved.. prepare to get dizzy.",
">\n\nWhen they go to court, I want to see someone there, reading the book \"the subtle art of not giving a fuck\".",
">\n\nRepublicans committing crimes that have to do with elections. I’m shocked!!",
">\n\nVery on-brand",
">\n\nLock them up",
">\n\nRepublicans doing dirty republican tricks.",
">\n\nis there a 'GOParrests' subreddit? It's hard to keep track...",
">\n\nI believe a bunch are documented under r/CapitolConsequences but that sub may just cover arrests on J6",
">\n\nGOP somehow believe that the way to make elections safe is to not pay anyone?"
] |
>
Well yeah, they’re republicans.
|
[
"Does anyone else ever start guessing states when they see these stories?\n\n\nEdit: It's Texas. Texas was my second guess. Florida and then Texas. \n((I'm a Texan.)",
">\n\nI used to live near Bandera. This is also very close to Fredericksburg and Gillespie County where a bunch of trump nuts basically pushed out any sane election workers because of their stupid voter fraud claims. \nMind you, these counties are VERY RED, so like… voter fraud would be really obvious if suddenly democrats were winning in these counties. But they’re not.",
">\n\n\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, \n\nThe GQP is corrupt at the top levels. Is anyone surprised?",
">\n\nThis is the opposite of the top levels",
">\n\n\nThe pair, which is accused of presenting a forged document to cut off the bank access of another GOP official, was booked into the Bandera County Jail Friday on the state jail felony charge.\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, multiple people associated with the investigation told KSAT.\nThe criminal case, spearheaded by the Texas Attorney General’s Office, was launched last year after then-chairperson Lynn Haueter was locked out of accessing the group’s bank accounts.\n\nWhattayaknow - Ken Paxton's office is actually going after some GOP party officials. I guess the \"another GOP official\" victim had better connections than the perps did",
">\n\nIf this was a democrat doing this, Ken Paxton would be publicizing this and they will claim this is proof 2020 was rigged. Queue the conspiracies",
">\n\nDid they just steal the $, someone else was going to steal?",
">\n\nFollow the money ... but when the GOP is involved.. prepare to get dizzy.",
">\n\nWhen they go to court, I want to see someone there, reading the book \"the subtle art of not giving a fuck\".",
">\n\nRepublicans committing crimes that have to do with elections. I’m shocked!!",
">\n\nVery on-brand",
">\n\nLock them up",
">\n\nRepublicans doing dirty republican tricks.",
">\n\nis there a 'GOParrests' subreddit? It's hard to keep track...",
">\n\nI believe a bunch are documented under r/CapitolConsequences but that sub may just cover arrests on J6",
">\n\nGOP somehow believe that the way to make elections safe is to not pay anyone?",
">\n\nOh, goodness. TX GOP “leaders”? Lmao… I’d have never seen it coming."
] |
>
What a fucking surprise
|
[
"Does anyone else ever start guessing states when they see these stories?\n\n\nEdit: It's Texas. Texas was my second guess. Florida and then Texas. \n((I'm a Texan.)",
">\n\nI used to live near Bandera. This is also very close to Fredericksburg and Gillespie County where a bunch of trump nuts basically pushed out any sane election workers because of their stupid voter fraud claims. \nMind you, these counties are VERY RED, so like… voter fraud would be really obvious if suddenly democrats were winning in these counties. But they’re not.",
">\n\n\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, \n\nThe GQP is corrupt at the top levels. Is anyone surprised?",
">\n\nThis is the opposite of the top levels",
">\n\n\nThe pair, which is accused of presenting a forged document to cut off the bank access of another GOP official, was booked into the Bandera County Jail Friday on the state jail felony charge.\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, multiple people associated with the investigation told KSAT.\nThe criminal case, spearheaded by the Texas Attorney General’s Office, was launched last year after then-chairperson Lynn Haueter was locked out of accessing the group’s bank accounts.\n\nWhattayaknow - Ken Paxton's office is actually going after some GOP party officials. I guess the \"another GOP official\" victim had better connections than the perps did",
">\n\nIf this was a democrat doing this, Ken Paxton would be publicizing this and they will claim this is proof 2020 was rigged. Queue the conspiracies",
">\n\nDid they just steal the $, someone else was going to steal?",
">\n\nFollow the money ... but when the GOP is involved.. prepare to get dizzy.",
">\n\nWhen they go to court, I want to see someone there, reading the book \"the subtle art of not giving a fuck\".",
">\n\nRepublicans committing crimes that have to do with elections. I’m shocked!!",
">\n\nVery on-brand",
">\n\nLock them up",
">\n\nRepublicans doing dirty republican tricks.",
">\n\nis there a 'GOParrests' subreddit? It's hard to keep track...",
">\n\nI believe a bunch are documented under r/CapitolConsequences but that sub may just cover arrests on J6",
">\n\nGOP somehow believe that the way to make elections safe is to not pay anyone?",
">\n\nOh, goodness. TX GOP “leaders”? Lmao… I’d have never seen it coming.",
">\n\nWell yeah, they’re republicans."
] |
>
|
[
"Does anyone else ever start guessing states when they see these stories?\n\n\nEdit: It's Texas. Texas was my second guess. Florida and then Texas. \n((I'm a Texan.)",
">\n\nI used to live near Bandera. This is also very close to Fredericksburg and Gillespie County where a bunch of trump nuts basically pushed out any sane election workers because of their stupid voter fraud claims. \nMind you, these counties are VERY RED, so like… voter fraud would be really obvious if suddenly democrats were winning in these counties. But they’re not.",
">\n\n\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, \n\nThe GQP is corrupt at the top levels. Is anyone surprised?",
">\n\nThis is the opposite of the top levels",
">\n\n\nThe pair, which is accused of presenting a forged document to cut off the bank access of another GOP official, was booked into the Bandera County Jail Friday on the state jail felony charge.\nStriegl is listed as the current Bandera County Republican Chair, while Leith serves as the organization’s treasurer, multiple people associated with the investigation told KSAT.\nThe criminal case, spearheaded by the Texas Attorney General’s Office, was launched last year after then-chairperson Lynn Haueter was locked out of accessing the group’s bank accounts.\n\nWhattayaknow - Ken Paxton's office is actually going after some GOP party officials. I guess the \"another GOP official\" victim had better connections than the perps did",
">\n\nIf this was a democrat doing this, Ken Paxton would be publicizing this and they will claim this is proof 2020 was rigged. Queue the conspiracies",
">\n\nDid they just steal the $, someone else was going to steal?",
">\n\nFollow the money ... but when the GOP is involved.. prepare to get dizzy.",
">\n\nWhen they go to court, I want to see someone there, reading the book \"the subtle art of not giving a fuck\".",
">\n\nRepublicans committing crimes that have to do with elections. I’m shocked!!",
">\n\nVery on-brand",
">\n\nLock them up",
">\n\nRepublicans doing dirty republican tricks.",
">\n\nis there a 'GOParrests' subreddit? It's hard to keep track...",
">\n\nI believe a bunch are documented under r/CapitolConsequences but that sub may just cover arrests on J6",
">\n\nGOP somehow believe that the way to make elections safe is to not pay anyone?",
">\n\nOh, goodness. TX GOP “leaders”? Lmao… I’d have never seen it coming.",
">\n\nWell yeah, they’re republicans.",
">\n\nWhat a fucking surprise"
] |
Trump told him to commit a federal crime and he kept that to himself instead of reporting it. Trash all the way down.
|
[] |
>
So does admitting this potentially remove his attorney client privilege?
|
[
"Trump told him to commit a federal crime and he kept that to himself instead of reporting it. Trash all the way down."
] |
>
So I read about this some time ago, so keep that in mind.
Giuliani and Trump were pretty coy about whether or not Rudy was his personal attorney.
I think part of that is because they knew how Rudy's Ukraine work was straddling the line between being a personal attorney and being a government agent.
He can be one or the other but not both, I think. Even the White House counsel is not the Presidents personal attorney. They work for the Presidency and the White House and not for personal legal matters of the office holder.
If he's working as a private attorney then wtf is he doing reviewing sensitive government documents?
If he's working as a government agent then he's accountable to Congress and oversight.
I think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation
|
[
"Trump told him to commit a federal crime and he kept that to himself instead of reporting it. Trash all the way down.",
">\n\nSo does admitting this potentially remove his attorney client privilege?"
] |
>
I think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation
I 💯 guarantee that this was exactly their game plan
|
[
"Trump told him to commit a federal crime and he kept that to himself instead of reporting it. Trash all the way down.",
">\n\nSo does admitting this potentially remove his attorney client privilege?",
">\n\nSo I read about this some time ago, so keep that in mind.\nGiuliani and Trump were pretty coy about whether or not Rudy was his personal attorney.\nI think part of that is because they knew how Rudy's Ukraine work was straddling the line between being a personal attorney and being a government agent.\nHe can be one or the other but not both, I think. Even the White House counsel is not the Presidents personal attorney. They work for the Presidency and the White House and not for personal legal matters of the office holder.\nIf he's working as a private attorney then wtf is he doing reviewing sensitive government documents?\nIf he's working as a government agent then he's accountable to Congress and oversight.\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation"
] |
>
They really should have formulated one that would actually work 🤷♂️
|
[
"Trump told him to commit a federal crime and he kept that to himself instead of reporting it. Trash all the way down.",
">\n\nSo does admitting this potentially remove his attorney client privilege?",
">\n\nSo I read about this some time ago, so keep that in mind.\nGiuliani and Trump were pretty coy about whether or not Rudy was his personal attorney.\nI think part of that is because they knew how Rudy's Ukraine work was straddling the line between being a personal attorney and being a government agent.\nHe can be one or the other but not both, I think. Even the White House counsel is not the Presidents personal attorney. They work for the Presidency and the White House and not for personal legal matters of the office holder.\nIf he's working as a private attorney then wtf is he doing reviewing sensitive government documents?\nIf he's working as a government agent then he's accountable to Congress and oversight.\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation",
">\n\n\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation \n\nI 💯 guarantee that this was exactly their game plan"
] |
>
Well their basic mode is "spaghetti against the wall," which usually results in two or three mutually exclusive strategies being used at once.
|
[
"Trump told him to commit a federal crime and he kept that to himself instead of reporting it. Trash all the way down.",
">\n\nSo does admitting this potentially remove his attorney client privilege?",
">\n\nSo I read about this some time ago, so keep that in mind.\nGiuliani and Trump were pretty coy about whether or not Rudy was his personal attorney.\nI think part of that is because they knew how Rudy's Ukraine work was straddling the line between being a personal attorney and being a government agent.\nHe can be one or the other but not both, I think. Even the White House counsel is not the Presidents personal attorney. They work for the Presidency and the White House and not for personal legal matters of the office holder.\nIf he's working as a private attorney then wtf is he doing reviewing sensitive government documents?\nIf he's working as a government agent then he's accountable to Congress and oversight.\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation",
">\n\n\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation \n\nI 💯 guarantee that this was exactly their game plan",
">\n\nThey really should have formulated one that would actually work 🤷♂️"
] |
>
You have to use lots of ketchup if you want the spaghetti to stick on the wall :)
|
[
"Trump told him to commit a federal crime and he kept that to himself instead of reporting it. Trash all the way down.",
">\n\nSo does admitting this potentially remove his attorney client privilege?",
">\n\nSo I read about this some time ago, so keep that in mind.\nGiuliani and Trump were pretty coy about whether or not Rudy was his personal attorney.\nI think part of that is because they knew how Rudy's Ukraine work was straddling the line between being a personal attorney and being a government agent.\nHe can be one or the other but not both, I think. Even the White House counsel is not the Presidents personal attorney. They work for the Presidency and the White House and not for personal legal matters of the office holder.\nIf he's working as a private attorney then wtf is he doing reviewing sensitive government documents?\nIf he's working as a government agent then he's accountable to Congress and oversight.\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation",
">\n\n\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation \n\nI 💯 guarantee that this was exactly their game plan",
">\n\nThey really should have formulated one that would actually work 🤷♂️",
">\n\nWell their basic mode is \"spaghetti against the wall,\" which usually results in two or three mutually exclusive strategies being used at once."
] |
>
If only Rudy had the necessary training to know that was illegal. They should have something like that for people who do law. Law-doer, or something.
|
[
"Trump told him to commit a federal crime and he kept that to himself instead of reporting it. Trash all the way down.",
">\n\nSo does admitting this potentially remove his attorney client privilege?",
">\n\nSo I read about this some time ago, so keep that in mind.\nGiuliani and Trump were pretty coy about whether or not Rudy was his personal attorney.\nI think part of that is because they knew how Rudy's Ukraine work was straddling the line between being a personal attorney and being a government agent.\nHe can be one or the other but not both, I think. Even the White House counsel is not the Presidents personal attorney. They work for the Presidency and the White House and not for personal legal matters of the office holder.\nIf he's working as a private attorney then wtf is he doing reviewing sensitive government documents?\nIf he's working as a government agent then he's accountable to Congress and oversight.\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation",
">\n\n\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation \n\nI 💯 guarantee that this was exactly their game plan",
">\n\nThey really should have formulated one that would actually work 🤷♂️",
">\n\nWell their basic mode is \"spaghetti against the wall,\" which usually results in two or three mutually exclusive strategies being used at once.",
">\n\nYou have to use lots of ketchup if you want the spaghetti to stick on the wall :)"
] |
>
They should really set the Bar for these Law-doers.
|
[
"Trump told him to commit a federal crime and he kept that to himself instead of reporting it. Trash all the way down.",
">\n\nSo does admitting this potentially remove his attorney client privilege?",
">\n\nSo I read about this some time ago, so keep that in mind.\nGiuliani and Trump were pretty coy about whether or not Rudy was his personal attorney.\nI think part of that is because they knew how Rudy's Ukraine work was straddling the line between being a personal attorney and being a government agent.\nHe can be one or the other but not both, I think. Even the White House counsel is not the Presidents personal attorney. They work for the Presidency and the White House and not for personal legal matters of the office holder.\nIf he's working as a private attorney then wtf is he doing reviewing sensitive government documents?\nIf he's working as a government agent then he's accountable to Congress and oversight.\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation",
">\n\n\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation \n\nI 💯 guarantee that this was exactly their game plan",
">\n\nThey really should have formulated one that would actually work 🤷♂️",
">\n\nWell their basic mode is \"spaghetti against the wall,\" which usually results in two or three mutually exclusive strategies being used at once.",
">\n\nYou have to use lots of ketchup if you want the spaghetti to stick on the wall :)",
">\n\nIf only Rudy had the necessary training to know that was illegal. They should have something like that for people who do law. Law-doer, or something."
] |
>
Instead, they'lLSAT still and do nothing. (that was awful, I shouldn't be allowed to write another pun)
|
[
"Trump told him to commit a federal crime and he kept that to himself instead of reporting it. Trash all the way down.",
">\n\nSo does admitting this potentially remove his attorney client privilege?",
">\n\nSo I read about this some time ago, so keep that in mind.\nGiuliani and Trump were pretty coy about whether or not Rudy was his personal attorney.\nI think part of that is because they knew how Rudy's Ukraine work was straddling the line between being a personal attorney and being a government agent.\nHe can be one or the other but not both, I think. Even the White House counsel is not the Presidents personal attorney. They work for the Presidency and the White House and not for personal legal matters of the office holder.\nIf he's working as a private attorney then wtf is he doing reviewing sensitive government documents?\nIf he's working as a government agent then he's accountable to Congress and oversight.\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation",
">\n\n\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation \n\nI 💯 guarantee that this was exactly their game plan",
">\n\nThey really should have formulated one that would actually work 🤷♂️",
">\n\nWell their basic mode is \"spaghetti against the wall,\" which usually results in two or three mutually exclusive strategies being used at once.",
">\n\nYou have to use lots of ketchup if you want the spaghetti to stick on the wall :)",
">\n\nIf only Rudy had the necessary training to know that was illegal. They should have something like that for people who do law. Law-doer, or something.",
">\n\nThey should really set the Bar for these Law-doers."
] |
>
Giuliani sees the writing on the walls as clear as the shoe polish dripping from his temples
|
[
"Trump told him to commit a federal crime and he kept that to himself instead of reporting it. Trash all the way down.",
">\n\nSo does admitting this potentially remove his attorney client privilege?",
">\n\nSo I read about this some time ago, so keep that in mind.\nGiuliani and Trump were pretty coy about whether or not Rudy was his personal attorney.\nI think part of that is because they knew how Rudy's Ukraine work was straddling the line between being a personal attorney and being a government agent.\nHe can be one or the other but not both, I think. Even the White House counsel is not the Presidents personal attorney. They work for the Presidency and the White House and not for personal legal matters of the office holder.\nIf he's working as a private attorney then wtf is he doing reviewing sensitive government documents?\nIf he's working as a government agent then he's accountable to Congress and oversight.\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation",
">\n\n\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation \n\nI 💯 guarantee that this was exactly their game plan",
">\n\nThey really should have formulated one that would actually work 🤷♂️",
">\n\nWell their basic mode is \"spaghetti against the wall,\" which usually results in two or three mutually exclusive strategies being used at once.",
">\n\nYou have to use lots of ketchup if you want the spaghetti to stick on the wall :)",
">\n\nIf only Rudy had the necessary training to know that was illegal. They should have something like that for people who do law. Law-doer, or something.",
">\n\nThey should really set the Bar for these Law-doers.",
">\n\nInstead, they'lLSAT still and do nothing. (that was awful, I shouldn't be allowed to write another pun)"
] |
>
And he's signaling the prosecutors he wants to make a deal.
|
[
"Trump told him to commit a federal crime and he kept that to himself instead of reporting it. Trash all the way down.",
">\n\nSo does admitting this potentially remove his attorney client privilege?",
">\n\nSo I read about this some time ago, so keep that in mind.\nGiuliani and Trump were pretty coy about whether or not Rudy was his personal attorney.\nI think part of that is because they knew how Rudy's Ukraine work was straddling the line between being a personal attorney and being a government agent.\nHe can be one or the other but not both, I think. Even the White House counsel is not the Presidents personal attorney. They work for the Presidency and the White House and not for personal legal matters of the office holder.\nIf he's working as a private attorney then wtf is he doing reviewing sensitive government documents?\nIf he's working as a government agent then he's accountable to Congress and oversight.\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation",
">\n\n\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation \n\nI 💯 guarantee that this was exactly their game plan",
">\n\nThey really should have formulated one that would actually work 🤷♂️",
">\n\nWell their basic mode is \"spaghetti against the wall,\" which usually results in two or three mutually exclusive strategies being used at once.",
">\n\nYou have to use lots of ketchup if you want the spaghetti to stick on the wall :)",
">\n\nIf only Rudy had the necessary training to know that was illegal. They should have something like that for people who do law. Law-doer, or something.",
">\n\nThey should really set the Bar for these Law-doers.",
">\n\nInstead, they'lLSAT still and do nothing. (that was awful, I shouldn't be allowed to write another pun)",
">\n\nGiuliani sees the writing on the walls as clear as the shoe polish dripping from his temples"
] |
>
He who smelt it, dealt it.
|
[
"Trump told him to commit a federal crime and he kept that to himself instead of reporting it. Trash all the way down.",
">\n\nSo does admitting this potentially remove his attorney client privilege?",
">\n\nSo I read about this some time ago, so keep that in mind.\nGiuliani and Trump were pretty coy about whether or not Rudy was his personal attorney.\nI think part of that is because they knew how Rudy's Ukraine work was straddling the line between being a personal attorney and being a government agent.\nHe can be one or the other but not both, I think. Even the White House counsel is not the Presidents personal attorney. They work for the Presidency and the White House and not for personal legal matters of the office holder.\nIf he's working as a private attorney then wtf is he doing reviewing sensitive government documents?\nIf he's working as a government agent then he's accountable to Congress and oversight.\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation",
">\n\n\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation \n\nI 💯 guarantee that this was exactly their game plan",
">\n\nThey really should have formulated one that would actually work 🤷♂️",
">\n\nWell their basic mode is \"spaghetti against the wall,\" which usually results in two or three mutually exclusive strategies being used at once.",
">\n\nYou have to use lots of ketchup if you want the spaghetti to stick on the wall :)",
">\n\nIf only Rudy had the necessary training to know that was illegal. They should have something like that for people who do law. Law-doer, or something.",
">\n\nThey should really set the Bar for these Law-doers.",
">\n\nInstead, they'lLSAT still and do nothing. (that was awful, I shouldn't be allowed to write another pun)",
">\n\nGiuliani sees the writing on the walls as clear as the shoe polish dripping from his temples",
">\n\nAnd he's signaling the prosecutors he wants to make a deal."
] |
>
He who leaked black goo from his temples...uhh...shit...
|
[
"Trump told him to commit a federal crime and he kept that to himself instead of reporting it. Trash all the way down.",
">\n\nSo does admitting this potentially remove his attorney client privilege?",
">\n\nSo I read about this some time ago, so keep that in mind.\nGiuliani and Trump were pretty coy about whether or not Rudy was his personal attorney.\nI think part of that is because they knew how Rudy's Ukraine work was straddling the line between being a personal attorney and being a government agent.\nHe can be one or the other but not both, I think. Even the White House counsel is not the Presidents personal attorney. They work for the Presidency and the White House and not for personal legal matters of the office holder.\nIf he's working as a private attorney then wtf is he doing reviewing sensitive government documents?\nIf he's working as a government agent then he's accountable to Congress and oversight.\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation",
">\n\n\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation \n\nI 💯 guarantee that this was exactly their game plan",
">\n\nThey really should have formulated one that would actually work 🤷♂️",
">\n\nWell their basic mode is \"spaghetti against the wall,\" which usually results in two or three mutually exclusive strategies being used at once.",
">\n\nYou have to use lots of ketchup if you want the spaghetti to stick on the wall :)",
">\n\nIf only Rudy had the necessary training to know that was illegal. They should have something like that for people who do law. Law-doer, or something.",
">\n\nThey should really set the Bar for these Law-doers.",
">\n\nInstead, they'lLSAT still and do nothing. (that was awful, I shouldn't be allowed to write another pun)",
">\n\nGiuliani sees the writing on the walls as clear as the shoe polish dripping from his temples",
">\n\nAnd he's signaling the prosecutors he wants to make a deal.",
">\n\nHe who smelt it, dealt it."
] |
>
the best part of that video is the interns caught on the hot mic saying "look at Rudy he looks like hes fucking melting"
|
[
"Trump told him to commit a federal crime and he kept that to himself instead of reporting it. Trash all the way down.",
">\n\nSo does admitting this potentially remove his attorney client privilege?",
">\n\nSo I read about this some time ago, so keep that in mind.\nGiuliani and Trump were pretty coy about whether or not Rudy was his personal attorney.\nI think part of that is because they knew how Rudy's Ukraine work was straddling the line between being a personal attorney and being a government agent.\nHe can be one or the other but not both, I think. Even the White House counsel is not the Presidents personal attorney. They work for the Presidency and the White House and not for personal legal matters of the office holder.\nIf he's working as a private attorney then wtf is he doing reviewing sensitive government documents?\nIf he's working as a government agent then he's accountable to Congress and oversight.\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation",
">\n\n\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation \n\nI 💯 guarantee that this was exactly their game plan",
">\n\nThey really should have formulated one that would actually work 🤷♂️",
">\n\nWell their basic mode is \"spaghetti against the wall,\" which usually results in two or three mutually exclusive strategies being used at once.",
">\n\nYou have to use lots of ketchup if you want the spaghetti to stick on the wall :)",
">\n\nIf only Rudy had the necessary training to know that was illegal. They should have something like that for people who do law. Law-doer, or something.",
">\n\nThey should really set the Bar for these Law-doers.",
">\n\nInstead, they'lLSAT still and do nothing. (that was awful, I shouldn't be allowed to write another pun)",
">\n\nGiuliani sees the writing on the walls as clear as the shoe polish dripping from his temples",
">\n\nAnd he's signaling the prosecutors he wants to make a deal.",
">\n\nHe who smelt it, dealt it.",
">\n\nHe who leaked black goo from his temples...uhh...shit..."
] |
>
Giuliani wasn't a federal government official... sounds like theft of government property to me.
|
[
"Trump told him to commit a federal crime and he kept that to himself instead of reporting it. Trash all the way down.",
">\n\nSo does admitting this potentially remove his attorney client privilege?",
">\n\nSo I read about this some time ago, so keep that in mind.\nGiuliani and Trump were pretty coy about whether or not Rudy was his personal attorney.\nI think part of that is because they knew how Rudy's Ukraine work was straddling the line between being a personal attorney and being a government agent.\nHe can be one or the other but not both, I think. Even the White House counsel is not the Presidents personal attorney. They work for the Presidency and the White House and not for personal legal matters of the office holder.\nIf he's working as a private attorney then wtf is he doing reviewing sensitive government documents?\nIf he's working as a government agent then he's accountable to Congress and oversight.\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation",
">\n\n\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation \n\nI 💯 guarantee that this was exactly their game plan",
">\n\nThey really should have formulated one that would actually work 🤷♂️",
">\n\nWell their basic mode is \"spaghetti against the wall,\" which usually results in two or three mutually exclusive strategies being used at once.",
">\n\nYou have to use lots of ketchup if you want the spaghetti to stick on the wall :)",
">\n\nIf only Rudy had the necessary training to know that was illegal. They should have something like that for people who do law. Law-doer, or something.",
">\n\nThey should really set the Bar for these Law-doers.",
">\n\nInstead, they'lLSAT still and do nothing. (that was awful, I shouldn't be allowed to write another pun)",
">\n\nGiuliani sees the writing on the walls as clear as the shoe polish dripping from his temples",
">\n\nAnd he's signaling the prosecutors he wants to make a deal.",
">\n\nHe who smelt it, dealt it.",
">\n\nHe who leaked black goo from his temples...uhh...shit...",
">\n\nthe best part of that video is the interns caught on the hot mic saying \"look at Rudy he looks like hes fucking melting\""
] |
>
Tbf, they were already living in a post-USA, post-Constitution, post-Rule-of-Law personal tfg crime utopia, in their minds. /s (sort-of)
|
[
"Trump told him to commit a federal crime and he kept that to himself instead of reporting it. Trash all the way down.",
">\n\nSo does admitting this potentially remove his attorney client privilege?",
">\n\nSo I read about this some time ago, so keep that in mind.\nGiuliani and Trump were pretty coy about whether or not Rudy was his personal attorney.\nI think part of that is because they knew how Rudy's Ukraine work was straddling the line between being a personal attorney and being a government agent.\nHe can be one or the other but not both, I think. Even the White House counsel is not the Presidents personal attorney. They work for the Presidency and the White House and not for personal legal matters of the office holder.\nIf he's working as a private attorney then wtf is he doing reviewing sensitive government documents?\nIf he's working as a government agent then he's accountable to Congress and oversight.\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation",
">\n\n\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation \n\nI 💯 guarantee that this was exactly their game plan",
">\n\nThey really should have formulated one that would actually work 🤷♂️",
">\n\nWell their basic mode is \"spaghetti against the wall,\" which usually results in two or three mutually exclusive strategies being used at once.",
">\n\nYou have to use lots of ketchup if you want the spaghetti to stick on the wall :)",
">\n\nIf only Rudy had the necessary training to know that was illegal. They should have something like that for people who do law. Law-doer, or something.",
">\n\nThey should really set the Bar for these Law-doers.",
">\n\nInstead, they'lLSAT still and do nothing. (that was awful, I shouldn't be allowed to write another pun)",
">\n\nGiuliani sees the writing on the walls as clear as the shoe polish dripping from his temples",
">\n\nAnd he's signaling the prosecutors he wants to make a deal.",
">\n\nHe who smelt it, dealt it.",
">\n\nHe who leaked black goo from his temples...uhh...shit...",
">\n\nthe best part of that video is the interns caught on the hot mic saying \"look at Rudy he looks like hes fucking melting\"",
">\n\nGiuliani wasn't a federal government official... sounds like theft of government property to me."
] |
>
“I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,” he said.
Great defense, America's Mayor.
|
[
"Trump told him to commit a federal crime and he kept that to himself instead of reporting it. Trash all the way down.",
">\n\nSo does admitting this potentially remove his attorney client privilege?",
">\n\nSo I read about this some time ago, so keep that in mind.\nGiuliani and Trump were pretty coy about whether or not Rudy was his personal attorney.\nI think part of that is because they knew how Rudy's Ukraine work was straddling the line between being a personal attorney and being a government agent.\nHe can be one or the other but not both, I think. Even the White House counsel is not the Presidents personal attorney. They work for the Presidency and the White House and not for personal legal matters of the office holder.\nIf he's working as a private attorney then wtf is he doing reviewing sensitive government documents?\nIf he's working as a government agent then he's accountable to Congress and oversight.\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation",
">\n\n\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation \n\nI 💯 guarantee that this was exactly their game plan",
">\n\nThey really should have formulated one that would actually work 🤷♂️",
">\n\nWell their basic mode is \"spaghetti against the wall,\" which usually results in two or three mutually exclusive strategies being used at once.",
">\n\nYou have to use lots of ketchup if you want the spaghetti to stick on the wall :)",
">\n\nIf only Rudy had the necessary training to know that was illegal. They should have something like that for people who do law. Law-doer, or something.",
">\n\nThey should really set the Bar for these Law-doers.",
">\n\nInstead, they'lLSAT still and do nothing. (that was awful, I shouldn't be allowed to write another pun)",
">\n\nGiuliani sees the writing on the walls as clear as the shoe polish dripping from his temples",
">\n\nAnd he's signaling the prosecutors he wants to make a deal.",
">\n\nHe who smelt it, dealt it.",
">\n\nHe who leaked black goo from his temples...uhh...shit...",
">\n\nthe best part of that video is the interns caught on the hot mic saying \"look at Rudy he looks like hes fucking melting\"",
">\n\nGiuliani wasn't a federal government official... sounds like theft of government property to me.",
">\n\nTbf, they were already living in a post-USA, post-Constitution, post-Rule-of-Law personal tfg crime utopia, in their minds. /s (sort-of)"
] |
>
He took a picture of it on his phone instead. Smart guy that Rudy..
|
[
"Trump told him to commit a federal crime and he kept that to himself instead of reporting it. Trash all the way down.",
">\n\nSo does admitting this potentially remove his attorney client privilege?",
">\n\nSo I read about this some time ago, so keep that in mind.\nGiuliani and Trump were pretty coy about whether or not Rudy was his personal attorney.\nI think part of that is because they knew how Rudy's Ukraine work was straddling the line between being a personal attorney and being a government agent.\nHe can be one or the other but not both, I think. Even the White House counsel is not the Presidents personal attorney. They work for the Presidency and the White House and not for personal legal matters of the office holder.\nIf he's working as a private attorney then wtf is he doing reviewing sensitive government documents?\nIf he's working as a government agent then he's accountable to Congress and oversight.\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation",
">\n\n\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation \n\nI 💯 guarantee that this was exactly their game plan",
">\n\nThey really should have formulated one that would actually work 🤷♂️",
">\n\nWell their basic mode is \"spaghetti against the wall,\" which usually results in two or three mutually exclusive strategies being used at once.",
">\n\nYou have to use lots of ketchup if you want the spaghetti to stick on the wall :)",
">\n\nIf only Rudy had the necessary training to know that was illegal. They should have something like that for people who do law. Law-doer, or something.",
">\n\nThey should really set the Bar for these Law-doers.",
">\n\nInstead, they'lLSAT still and do nothing. (that was awful, I shouldn't be allowed to write another pun)",
">\n\nGiuliani sees the writing on the walls as clear as the shoe polish dripping from his temples",
">\n\nAnd he's signaling the prosecutors he wants to make a deal.",
">\n\nHe who smelt it, dealt it.",
">\n\nHe who leaked black goo from his temples...uhh...shit...",
">\n\nthe best part of that video is the interns caught on the hot mic saying \"look at Rudy he looks like hes fucking melting\"",
">\n\nGiuliani wasn't a federal government official... sounds like theft of government property to me.",
">\n\nTbf, they were already living in a post-USA, post-Constitution, post-Rule-of-Law personal tfg crime utopia, in their minds. /s (sort-of)",
">\n\n“I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,” he said. \nGreat defense, America's Mayor."
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Oh gees: Guiliani, I did not take any files home (and if I did, I was not caught). hmmm.
So why is Guiliani, a personal lawyer - but not a tax specialist, were they reviewing another person's tax returns, especially a cabinet level official? Looking for "dirt" or leverage?
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[
"Trump told him to commit a federal crime and he kept that to himself instead of reporting it. Trash all the way down.",
">\n\nSo does admitting this potentially remove his attorney client privilege?",
">\n\nSo I read about this some time ago, so keep that in mind.\nGiuliani and Trump were pretty coy about whether or not Rudy was his personal attorney.\nI think part of that is because they knew how Rudy's Ukraine work was straddling the line between being a personal attorney and being a government agent.\nHe can be one or the other but not both, I think. Even the White House counsel is not the Presidents personal attorney. They work for the Presidency and the White House and not for personal legal matters of the office holder.\nIf he's working as a private attorney then wtf is he doing reviewing sensitive government documents?\nIf he's working as a government agent then he's accountable to Congress and oversight.\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation",
">\n\n\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation \n\nI 💯 guarantee that this was exactly their game plan",
">\n\nThey really should have formulated one that would actually work 🤷♂️",
">\n\nWell their basic mode is \"spaghetti against the wall,\" which usually results in two or three mutually exclusive strategies being used at once.",
">\n\nYou have to use lots of ketchup if you want the spaghetti to stick on the wall :)",
">\n\nIf only Rudy had the necessary training to know that was illegal. They should have something like that for people who do law. Law-doer, or something.",
">\n\nThey should really set the Bar for these Law-doers.",
">\n\nInstead, they'lLSAT still and do nothing. (that was awful, I shouldn't be allowed to write another pun)",
">\n\nGiuliani sees the writing on the walls as clear as the shoe polish dripping from his temples",
">\n\nAnd he's signaling the prosecutors he wants to make a deal.",
">\n\nHe who smelt it, dealt it.",
">\n\nHe who leaked black goo from his temples...uhh...shit...",
">\n\nthe best part of that video is the interns caught on the hot mic saying \"look at Rudy he looks like hes fucking melting\"",
">\n\nGiuliani wasn't a federal government official... sounds like theft of government property to me.",
">\n\nTbf, they were already living in a post-USA, post-Constitution, post-Rule-of-Law personal tfg crime utopia, in their minds. /s (sort-of)",
">\n\n“I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,” he said. \nGreat defense, America's Mayor.",
">\n\nHe took a picture of it on his phone instead. Smart guy that Rudy.."
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>
Yes would be my answer.
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[
"Trump told him to commit a federal crime and he kept that to himself instead of reporting it. Trash all the way down.",
">\n\nSo does admitting this potentially remove his attorney client privilege?",
">\n\nSo I read about this some time ago, so keep that in mind.\nGiuliani and Trump were pretty coy about whether or not Rudy was his personal attorney.\nI think part of that is because they knew how Rudy's Ukraine work was straddling the line between being a personal attorney and being a government agent.\nHe can be one or the other but not both, I think. Even the White House counsel is not the Presidents personal attorney. They work for the Presidency and the White House and not for personal legal matters of the office holder.\nIf he's working as a private attorney then wtf is he doing reviewing sensitive government documents?\nIf he's working as a government agent then he's accountable to Congress and oversight.\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation",
">\n\n\nI think they wanted to keep it loose and vague at times so they could declare attorney-client privilege OR Executive Privilege depending on the situation \n\nI 💯 guarantee that this was exactly their game plan",
">\n\nThey really should have formulated one that would actually work 🤷♂️",
">\n\nWell their basic mode is \"spaghetti against the wall,\" which usually results in two or three mutually exclusive strategies being used at once.",
">\n\nYou have to use lots of ketchup if you want the spaghetti to stick on the wall :)",
">\n\nIf only Rudy had the necessary training to know that was illegal. They should have something like that for people who do law. Law-doer, or something.",
">\n\nThey should really set the Bar for these Law-doers.",
">\n\nInstead, they'lLSAT still and do nothing. (that was awful, I shouldn't be allowed to write another pun)",
">\n\nGiuliani sees the writing on the walls as clear as the shoe polish dripping from his temples",
">\n\nAnd he's signaling the prosecutors he wants to make a deal.",
">\n\nHe who smelt it, dealt it.",
">\n\nHe who leaked black goo from his temples...uhh...shit...",
">\n\nthe best part of that video is the interns caught on the hot mic saying \"look at Rudy he looks like hes fucking melting\"",
">\n\nGiuliani wasn't a federal government official... sounds like theft of government property to me.",
">\n\nTbf, they were already living in a post-USA, post-Constitution, post-Rule-of-Law personal tfg crime utopia, in their minds. /s (sort-of)",
">\n\n“I — you know, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, knowingly, and I never got caught — but I don't remember ever taking a doc,” he said. \nGreat defense, America's Mayor.",
">\n\nHe took a picture of it on his phone instead. Smart guy that Rudy..",
">\n\nOh gees: Guiliani, I did not take any files home (and if I did, I was not caught). hmmm.\nSo why is Guiliani, a personal lawyer - but not a tax specialist, were they reviewing another person's tax returns, especially a cabinet level official? Looking for \"dirt\" or leverage?"
] |
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