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"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again."
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Yes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.
Also, you said, "people." That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone."
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Do you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans."
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You saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?"
] |
>
“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?"
] |
>
Oh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?
Because boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?
Before we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby."
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Innocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?"
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Oh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.
But back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂"
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While everybody here is blaming for profit prisons and free labor etc, could this not also represent they are giving parole chances out very liberally, or some other reason?
I mean I have no idea but god this website is so cynical sometimes
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂",
">\n\nOh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.\nBut back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?"
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>
As someone who was raised in Alabama, I assure you that cynicism is the only proper reaction.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂",
">\n\nOh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.\nBut back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?",
">\n\nWhile everybody here is blaming for profit prisons and free labor etc, could this not also represent they are giving parole chances out very liberally, or some other reason?\nI mean I have no idea but god this website is so cynical sometimes"
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So 90% denial is a new low, as in they’ve always denied more?
It seems like it is trying to say they’ve approved a new low of parole requests, so the opposite.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂",
">\n\nOh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.\nBut back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?",
">\n\nWhile everybody here is blaming for profit prisons and free labor etc, could this not also represent they are giving parole chances out very liberally, or some other reason?\nI mean I have no idea but god this website is so cynical sometimes",
">\n\nAs someone who was raised in Alabama, I assure you that cynicism is the only proper reaction."
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Numerical low vs metaphorical low.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂",
">\n\nOh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.\nBut back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?",
">\n\nWhile everybody here is blaming for profit prisons and free labor etc, could this not also represent they are giving parole chances out very liberally, or some other reason?\nI mean I have no idea but god this website is so cynical sometimes",
">\n\nAs someone who was raised in Alabama, I assure you that cynicism is the only proper reaction.",
">\n\nSo 90% denial is a new low, as in they’ve always denied more?\nIt seems like it is trying to say they’ve approved a new low of parole requests, so the opposite."
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Fuck that hoe. Push P bitch
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂",
">\n\nOh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.\nBut back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?",
">\n\nWhile everybody here is blaming for profit prisons and free labor etc, could this not also represent they are giving parole chances out very liberally, or some other reason?\nI mean I have no idea but god this website is so cynical sometimes",
">\n\nAs someone who was raised in Alabama, I assure you that cynicism is the only proper reaction.",
">\n\nSo 90% denial is a new low, as in they’ve always denied more?\nIt seems like it is trying to say they’ve approved a new low of parole requests, so the opposite.",
">\n\nNumerical low vs metaphorical low."
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Please provide the data of how many black people this includes… I think there is more to the story here.. not one we don’t already know though.
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂",
">\n\nOh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.\nBut back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?",
">\n\nWhile everybody here is blaming for profit prisons and free labor etc, could this not also represent they are giving parole chances out very liberally, or some other reason?\nI mean I have no idea but god this website is so cynical sometimes",
">\n\nAs someone who was raised in Alabama, I assure you that cynicism is the only proper reaction.",
">\n\nSo 90% denial is a new low, as in they’ve always denied more?\nIt seems like it is trying to say they’ve approved a new low of parole requests, so the opposite.",
">\n\nNumerical low vs metaphorical low.",
">\n\nFuck that hoe. Push P bitch"
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She murdered someone. Am I supposed to just be like, “oh wow your life is hard, guess you’re ok to go…” when some family has lost their loved one because of her? Nope. Not at all. It’s called justice.
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂",
">\n\nOh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.\nBut back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?",
">\n\nWhile everybody here is blaming for profit prisons and free labor etc, could this not also represent they are giving parole chances out very liberally, or some other reason?\nI mean I have no idea but god this website is so cynical sometimes",
">\n\nAs someone who was raised in Alabama, I assure you that cynicism is the only proper reaction.",
">\n\nSo 90% denial is a new low, as in they’ve always denied more?\nIt seems like it is trying to say they’ve approved a new low of parole requests, so the opposite.",
">\n\nNumerical low vs metaphorical low.",
">\n\nFuck that hoe. Push P bitch",
">\n\nPlease provide the data of how many black people this includes… I think there is more to the story here.. not one we don’t already know though."
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That's some bullshitery, clear as day.
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂",
">\n\nOh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.\nBut back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?",
">\n\nWhile everybody here is blaming for profit prisons and free labor etc, could this not also represent they are giving parole chances out very liberally, or some other reason?\nI mean I have no idea but god this website is so cynical sometimes",
">\n\nAs someone who was raised in Alabama, I assure you that cynicism is the only proper reaction.",
">\n\nSo 90% denial is a new low, as in they’ve always denied more?\nIt seems like it is trying to say they’ve approved a new low of parole requests, so the opposite.",
">\n\nNumerical low vs metaphorical low.",
">\n\nFuck that hoe. Push P bitch",
">\n\nPlease provide the data of how many black people this includes… I think there is more to the story here.. not one we don’t already know though.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone. Am I supposed to just be like, “oh wow your life is hard, guess you’re ok to go…” when some family has lost their loved one because of her? Nope. Not at all. It’s called justice."
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So before they denied more than 90%? Reading is hard, writing is apparently harder.
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂",
">\n\nOh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.\nBut back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?",
">\n\nWhile everybody here is blaming for profit prisons and free labor etc, could this not also represent they are giving parole chances out very liberally, or some other reason?\nI mean I have no idea but god this website is so cynical sometimes",
">\n\nAs someone who was raised in Alabama, I assure you that cynicism is the only proper reaction.",
">\n\nSo 90% denial is a new low, as in they’ve always denied more?\nIt seems like it is trying to say they’ve approved a new low of parole requests, so the opposite.",
">\n\nNumerical low vs metaphorical low.",
">\n\nFuck that hoe. Push P bitch",
">\n\nPlease provide the data of how many black people this includes… I think there is more to the story here.. not one we don’t already know though.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone. Am I supposed to just be like, “oh wow your life is hard, guess you’re ok to go…” when some family has lost their loved one because of her? Nope. Not at all. It’s called justice.",
">\n\nThat's some bullshitery, clear as day."
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Great news. Keep criminals behind bars and out of society.
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂",
">\n\nOh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.\nBut back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?",
">\n\nWhile everybody here is blaming for profit prisons and free labor etc, could this not also represent they are giving parole chances out very liberally, or some other reason?\nI mean I have no idea but god this website is so cynical sometimes",
">\n\nAs someone who was raised in Alabama, I assure you that cynicism is the only proper reaction.",
">\n\nSo 90% denial is a new low, as in they’ve always denied more?\nIt seems like it is trying to say they’ve approved a new low of parole requests, so the opposite.",
">\n\nNumerical low vs metaphorical low.",
">\n\nFuck that hoe. Push P bitch",
">\n\nPlease provide the data of how many black people this includes… I think there is more to the story here.. not one we don’t already know though.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone. Am I supposed to just be like, “oh wow your life is hard, guess you’re ok to go…” when some family has lost their loved one because of her? Nope. Not at all. It’s called justice.",
">\n\nThat's some bullshitery, clear as day.",
">\n\nSo before they denied more than 90%? Reading is hard, writing is apparently harder."
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Awful headline, but everybody pointing that out is being downvoted. I thought this was saying that 90% denial is the new low until I opened the article.
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂",
">\n\nOh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.\nBut back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?",
">\n\nWhile everybody here is blaming for profit prisons and free labor etc, could this not also represent they are giving parole chances out very liberally, or some other reason?\nI mean I have no idea but god this website is so cynical sometimes",
">\n\nAs someone who was raised in Alabama, I assure you that cynicism is the only proper reaction.",
">\n\nSo 90% denial is a new low, as in they’ve always denied more?\nIt seems like it is trying to say they’ve approved a new low of parole requests, so the opposite.",
">\n\nNumerical low vs metaphorical low.",
">\n\nFuck that hoe. Push P bitch",
">\n\nPlease provide the data of how many black people this includes… I think there is more to the story here.. not one we don’t already know though.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone. Am I supposed to just be like, “oh wow your life is hard, guess you’re ok to go…” when some family has lost their loved one because of her? Nope. Not at all. It’s called justice.",
">\n\nThat's some bullshitery, clear as day.",
">\n\nSo before they denied more than 90%? Reading is hard, writing is apparently harder.",
">\n\nGreat news. Keep criminals behind bars and out of society."
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Gotta keep the prison industrial complex happy
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂",
">\n\nOh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.\nBut back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?",
">\n\nWhile everybody here is blaming for profit prisons and free labor etc, could this not also represent they are giving parole chances out very liberally, or some other reason?\nI mean I have no idea but god this website is so cynical sometimes",
">\n\nAs someone who was raised in Alabama, I assure you that cynicism is the only proper reaction.",
">\n\nSo 90% denial is a new low, as in they’ve always denied more?\nIt seems like it is trying to say they’ve approved a new low of parole requests, so the opposite.",
">\n\nNumerical low vs metaphorical low.",
">\n\nFuck that hoe. Push P bitch",
">\n\nPlease provide the data of how many black people this includes… I think there is more to the story here.. not one we don’t already know though.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone. Am I supposed to just be like, “oh wow your life is hard, guess you’re ok to go…” when some family has lost their loved one because of her? Nope. Not at all. It’s called justice.",
">\n\nThat's some bullshitery, clear as day.",
">\n\nSo before they denied more than 90%? Reading is hard, writing is apparently harder.",
">\n\nGreat news. Keep criminals behind bars and out of society.",
">\n\nAwful headline, but everybody pointing that out is being downvoted. I thought this was saying that 90% denial is the new low until I opened the article."
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Someones gotta be a surety for those bonds...
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂",
">\n\nOh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.\nBut back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?",
">\n\nWhile everybody here is blaming for profit prisons and free labor etc, could this not also represent they are giving parole chances out very liberally, or some other reason?\nI mean I have no idea but god this website is so cynical sometimes",
">\n\nAs someone who was raised in Alabama, I assure you that cynicism is the only proper reaction.",
">\n\nSo 90% denial is a new low, as in they’ve always denied more?\nIt seems like it is trying to say they’ve approved a new low of parole requests, so the opposite.",
">\n\nNumerical low vs metaphorical low.",
">\n\nFuck that hoe. Push P bitch",
">\n\nPlease provide the data of how many black people this includes… I think there is more to the story here.. not one we don’t already know though.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone. Am I supposed to just be like, “oh wow your life is hard, guess you’re ok to go…” when some family has lost their loved one because of her? Nope. Not at all. It’s called justice.",
">\n\nThat's some bullshitery, clear as day.",
">\n\nSo before they denied more than 90%? Reading is hard, writing is apparently harder.",
">\n\nGreat news. Keep criminals behind bars and out of society.",
">\n\nAwful headline, but everybody pointing that out is being downvoted. I thought this was saying that 90% denial is the new low until I opened the article.",
">\n\nGotta keep the prison industrial complex happy"
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Jfc, as a "yankee" (as you hicks call us) from Chicago, fuuuuck youse are all fucked up. Seriously, you are all fucked up. I don't know why anybody would want to live down there. Just goosh gives me the bumps. Seriously, fuck you all you backwards ass cousin fuckers.
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂",
">\n\nOh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.\nBut back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?",
">\n\nWhile everybody here is blaming for profit prisons and free labor etc, could this not also represent they are giving parole chances out very liberally, or some other reason?\nI mean I have no idea but god this website is so cynical sometimes",
">\n\nAs someone who was raised in Alabama, I assure you that cynicism is the only proper reaction.",
">\n\nSo 90% denial is a new low, as in they’ve always denied more?\nIt seems like it is trying to say they’ve approved a new low of parole requests, so the opposite.",
">\n\nNumerical low vs metaphorical low.",
">\n\nFuck that hoe. Push P bitch",
">\n\nPlease provide the data of how many black people this includes… I think there is more to the story here.. not one we don’t already know though.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone. Am I supposed to just be like, “oh wow your life is hard, guess you’re ok to go…” when some family has lost their loved one because of her? Nope. Not at all. It’s called justice.",
">\n\nThat's some bullshitery, clear as day.",
">\n\nSo before they denied more than 90%? Reading is hard, writing is apparently harder.",
">\n\nGreat news. Keep criminals behind bars and out of society.",
">\n\nAwful headline, but everybody pointing that out is being downvoted. I thought this was saying that 90% denial is the new low until I opened the article.",
">\n\nGotta keep the prison industrial complex happy",
">\n\nSomeones gotta be a surety for those bonds..."
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After reading the article i think the reason behind it is just sad.
The inmate kept insisting that someone else committed the murder, that generally is a big "No no" and an admission of guilt for a crime a person has been sentenced to is Step One. That is generally one of the basic requirements to be granted parole anywhere (Not even US specific) that there is admission of guilt --> Regret --> Work towards becoming a better person.
A terrible trap if she is innocent, but in the eyes of the law she isnt and thats what the parole board has to go with.
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂",
">\n\nOh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.\nBut back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?",
">\n\nWhile everybody here is blaming for profit prisons and free labor etc, could this not also represent they are giving parole chances out very liberally, or some other reason?\nI mean I have no idea but god this website is so cynical sometimes",
">\n\nAs someone who was raised in Alabama, I assure you that cynicism is the only proper reaction.",
">\n\nSo 90% denial is a new low, as in they’ve always denied more?\nIt seems like it is trying to say they’ve approved a new low of parole requests, so the opposite.",
">\n\nNumerical low vs metaphorical low.",
">\n\nFuck that hoe. Push P bitch",
">\n\nPlease provide the data of how many black people this includes… I think there is more to the story here.. not one we don’t already know though.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone. Am I supposed to just be like, “oh wow your life is hard, guess you’re ok to go…” when some family has lost their loved one because of her? Nope. Not at all. It’s called justice.",
">\n\nThat's some bullshitery, clear as day.",
">\n\nSo before they denied more than 90%? Reading is hard, writing is apparently harder.",
">\n\nGreat news. Keep criminals behind bars and out of society.",
">\n\nAwful headline, but everybody pointing that out is being downvoted. I thought this was saying that 90% denial is the new low until I opened the article.",
">\n\nGotta keep the prison industrial complex happy",
">\n\nSomeones gotta be a surety for those bonds...",
">\n\nJfc, as a \"yankee\" (as you hicks call us) from Chicago, fuuuuck youse are all fucked up. Seriously, you are all fucked up. I don't know why anybody would want to live down there. Just goosh gives me the bumps. Seriously, fuck you all you backwards ass cousin fuckers."
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Imagine that. Privately owned jails, keeping inmates locked up to get more money from the government.
Good bless the confederacy ... I mean, the USA.
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂",
">\n\nOh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.\nBut back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?",
">\n\nWhile everybody here is blaming for profit prisons and free labor etc, could this not also represent they are giving parole chances out very liberally, or some other reason?\nI mean I have no idea but god this website is so cynical sometimes",
">\n\nAs someone who was raised in Alabama, I assure you that cynicism is the only proper reaction.",
">\n\nSo 90% denial is a new low, as in they’ve always denied more?\nIt seems like it is trying to say they’ve approved a new low of parole requests, so the opposite.",
">\n\nNumerical low vs metaphorical low.",
">\n\nFuck that hoe. Push P bitch",
">\n\nPlease provide the data of how many black people this includes… I think there is more to the story here.. not one we don’t already know though.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone. Am I supposed to just be like, “oh wow your life is hard, guess you’re ok to go…” when some family has lost their loved one because of her? Nope. Not at all. It’s called justice.",
">\n\nThat's some bullshitery, clear as day.",
">\n\nSo before they denied more than 90%? Reading is hard, writing is apparently harder.",
">\n\nGreat news. Keep criminals behind bars and out of society.",
">\n\nAwful headline, but everybody pointing that out is being downvoted. I thought this was saying that 90% denial is the new low until I opened the article.",
">\n\nGotta keep the prison industrial complex happy",
">\n\nSomeones gotta be a surety for those bonds...",
">\n\nJfc, as a \"yankee\" (as you hicks call us) from Chicago, fuuuuck youse are all fucked up. Seriously, you are all fucked up. I don't know why anybody would want to live down there. Just goosh gives me the bumps. Seriously, fuck you all you backwards ass cousin fuckers.",
">\n\nAfter reading the article i think the reason behind it is just sad.\nThe inmate kept insisting that someone else committed the murder, that generally is a big \"No no\" and an admission of guilt for a crime a person has been sentenced to is Step One. That is generally one of the basic requirements to be granted parole anywhere (Not even US specific) that there is admission of guilt --> Regret --> Work towards becoming a better person.\nA terrible trap if she is innocent, but in the eyes of the law she isnt and thats what the parole board has to go with."
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Gotta keep 'em in, because keeping 'em in lets you bark to the clowns about how you're Tough On Crime^tm .
Also, money. Because... hey, involving a profit motive in incarceration was a such a wonderful fucking idea that isn't open to flagrant abuses or anything.
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂",
">\n\nOh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.\nBut back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?",
">\n\nWhile everybody here is blaming for profit prisons and free labor etc, could this not also represent they are giving parole chances out very liberally, or some other reason?\nI mean I have no idea but god this website is so cynical sometimes",
">\n\nAs someone who was raised in Alabama, I assure you that cynicism is the only proper reaction.",
">\n\nSo 90% denial is a new low, as in they’ve always denied more?\nIt seems like it is trying to say they’ve approved a new low of parole requests, so the opposite.",
">\n\nNumerical low vs metaphorical low.",
">\n\nFuck that hoe. Push P bitch",
">\n\nPlease provide the data of how many black people this includes… I think there is more to the story here.. not one we don’t already know though.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone. Am I supposed to just be like, “oh wow your life is hard, guess you’re ok to go…” when some family has lost their loved one because of her? Nope. Not at all. It’s called justice.",
">\n\nThat's some bullshitery, clear as day.",
">\n\nSo before they denied more than 90%? Reading is hard, writing is apparently harder.",
">\n\nGreat news. Keep criminals behind bars and out of society.",
">\n\nAwful headline, but everybody pointing that out is being downvoted. I thought this was saying that 90% denial is the new low until I opened the article.",
">\n\nGotta keep the prison industrial complex happy",
">\n\nSomeones gotta be a surety for those bonds...",
">\n\nJfc, as a \"yankee\" (as you hicks call us) from Chicago, fuuuuck youse are all fucked up. Seriously, you are all fucked up. I don't know why anybody would want to live down there. Just goosh gives me the bumps. Seriously, fuck you all you backwards ass cousin fuckers.",
">\n\nAfter reading the article i think the reason behind it is just sad.\nThe inmate kept insisting that someone else committed the murder, that generally is a big \"No no\" and an admission of guilt for a crime a person has been sentenced to is Step One. That is generally one of the basic requirements to be granted parole anywhere (Not even US specific) that there is admission of guilt --> Regret --> Work towards becoming a better person.\nA terrible trap if she is innocent, but in the eyes of the law she isnt and thats what the parole board has to go with.",
">\n\nImagine that. Privately owned jails, keeping inmates locked up to get more money from the government. \nGood bless the confederacy ... I mean, the USA."
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They already freed the slaves once they won't do it again....
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂",
">\n\nOh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.\nBut back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?",
">\n\nWhile everybody here is blaming for profit prisons and free labor etc, could this not also represent they are giving parole chances out very liberally, or some other reason?\nI mean I have no idea but god this website is so cynical sometimes",
">\n\nAs someone who was raised in Alabama, I assure you that cynicism is the only proper reaction.",
">\n\nSo 90% denial is a new low, as in they’ve always denied more?\nIt seems like it is trying to say they’ve approved a new low of parole requests, so the opposite.",
">\n\nNumerical low vs metaphorical low.",
">\n\nFuck that hoe. Push P bitch",
">\n\nPlease provide the data of how many black people this includes… I think there is more to the story here.. not one we don’t already know though.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone. Am I supposed to just be like, “oh wow your life is hard, guess you’re ok to go…” when some family has lost their loved one because of her? Nope. Not at all. It’s called justice.",
">\n\nThat's some bullshitery, clear as day.",
">\n\nSo before they denied more than 90%? Reading is hard, writing is apparently harder.",
">\n\nGreat news. Keep criminals behind bars and out of society.",
">\n\nAwful headline, but everybody pointing that out is being downvoted. I thought this was saying that 90% denial is the new low until I opened the article.",
">\n\nGotta keep the prison industrial complex happy",
">\n\nSomeones gotta be a surety for those bonds...",
">\n\nJfc, as a \"yankee\" (as you hicks call us) from Chicago, fuuuuck youse are all fucked up. Seriously, you are all fucked up. I don't know why anybody would want to live down there. Just goosh gives me the bumps. Seriously, fuck you all you backwards ass cousin fuckers.",
">\n\nAfter reading the article i think the reason behind it is just sad.\nThe inmate kept insisting that someone else committed the murder, that generally is a big \"No no\" and an admission of guilt for a crime a person has been sentenced to is Step One. That is generally one of the basic requirements to be granted parole anywhere (Not even US specific) that there is admission of guilt --> Regret --> Work towards becoming a better person.\nA terrible trap if she is innocent, but in the eyes of the law she isnt and thats what the parole board has to go with.",
">\n\nImagine that. Privately owned jails, keeping inmates locked up to get more money from the government. \nGood bless the confederacy ... I mean, the USA.",
">\n\nGotta keep 'em in, because keeping 'em in lets you bark to the clowns about how you're Tough On Crime^tm .\nAlso, money. Because... hey, involving a profit motive in incarceration was a such a wonderful fucking idea that isn't open to flagrant abuses or anything."
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Shakin' the bush, boss
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂",
">\n\nOh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.\nBut back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?",
">\n\nWhile everybody here is blaming for profit prisons and free labor etc, could this not also represent they are giving parole chances out very liberally, or some other reason?\nI mean I have no idea but god this website is so cynical sometimes",
">\n\nAs someone who was raised in Alabama, I assure you that cynicism is the only proper reaction.",
">\n\nSo 90% denial is a new low, as in they’ve always denied more?\nIt seems like it is trying to say they’ve approved a new low of parole requests, so the opposite.",
">\n\nNumerical low vs metaphorical low.",
">\n\nFuck that hoe. Push P bitch",
">\n\nPlease provide the data of how many black people this includes… I think there is more to the story here.. not one we don’t already know though.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone. Am I supposed to just be like, “oh wow your life is hard, guess you’re ok to go…” when some family has lost their loved one because of her? Nope. Not at all. It’s called justice.",
">\n\nThat's some bullshitery, clear as day.",
">\n\nSo before they denied more than 90%? Reading is hard, writing is apparently harder.",
">\n\nGreat news. Keep criminals behind bars and out of society.",
">\n\nAwful headline, but everybody pointing that out is being downvoted. I thought this was saying that 90% denial is the new low until I opened the article.",
">\n\nGotta keep the prison industrial complex happy",
">\n\nSomeones gotta be a surety for those bonds...",
">\n\nJfc, as a \"yankee\" (as you hicks call us) from Chicago, fuuuuck youse are all fucked up. Seriously, you are all fucked up. I don't know why anybody would want to live down there. Just goosh gives me the bumps. Seriously, fuck you all you backwards ass cousin fuckers.",
">\n\nAfter reading the article i think the reason behind it is just sad.\nThe inmate kept insisting that someone else committed the murder, that generally is a big \"No no\" and an admission of guilt for a crime a person has been sentenced to is Step One. That is generally one of the basic requirements to be granted parole anywhere (Not even US specific) that there is admission of guilt --> Regret --> Work towards becoming a better person.\nA terrible trap if she is innocent, but in the eyes of the law she isnt and thats what the parole board has to go with.",
">\n\nImagine that. Privately owned jails, keeping inmates locked up to get more money from the government. \nGood bless the confederacy ... I mean, the USA.",
">\n\nGotta keep 'em in, because keeping 'em in lets you bark to the clowns about how you're Tough On Crime^tm .\nAlso, money. Because... hey, involving a profit motive in incarceration was a such a wonderful fucking idea that isn't open to flagrant abuses or anything.",
">\n\nThey already freed the slaves once they won't do it again...."
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What's your dirt doing in my hole, Luke? OK, you get a night in the box.
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂",
">\n\nOh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.\nBut back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?",
">\n\nWhile everybody here is blaming for profit prisons and free labor etc, could this not also represent they are giving parole chances out very liberally, or some other reason?\nI mean I have no idea but god this website is so cynical sometimes",
">\n\nAs someone who was raised in Alabama, I assure you that cynicism is the only proper reaction.",
">\n\nSo 90% denial is a new low, as in they’ve always denied more?\nIt seems like it is trying to say they’ve approved a new low of parole requests, so the opposite.",
">\n\nNumerical low vs metaphorical low.",
">\n\nFuck that hoe. Push P bitch",
">\n\nPlease provide the data of how many black people this includes… I think there is more to the story here.. not one we don’t already know though.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone. Am I supposed to just be like, “oh wow your life is hard, guess you’re ok to go…” when some family has lost their loved one because of her? Nope. Not at all. It’s called justice.",
">\n\nThat's some bullshitery, clear as day.",
">\n\nSo before they denied more than 90%? Reading is hard, writing is apparently harder.",
">\n\nGreat news. Keep criminals behind bars and out of society.",
">\n\nAwful headline, but everybody pointing that out is being downvoted. I thought this was saying that 90% denial is the new low until I opened the article.",
">\n\nGotta keep the prison industrial complex happy",
">\n\nSomeones gotta be a surety for those bonds...",
">\n\nJfc, as a \"yankee\" (as you hicks call us) from Chicago, fuuuuck youse are all fucked up. Seriously, you are all fucked up. I don't know why anybody would want to live down there. Just goosh gives me the bumps. Seriously, fuck you all you backwards ass cousin fuckers.",
">\n\nAfter reading the article i think the reason behind it is just sad.\nThe inmate kept insisting that someone else committed the murder, that generally is a big \"No no\" and an admission of guilt for a crime a person has been sentenced to is Step One. That is generally one of the basic requirements to be granted parole anywhere (Not even US specific) that there is admission of guilt --> Regret --> Work towards becoming a better person.\nA terrible trap if she is innocent, but in the eyes of the law she isnt and thats what the parole board has to go with.",
">\n\nImagine that. Privately owned jails, keeping inmates locked up to get more money from the government. \nGood bless the confederacy ... I mean, the USA.",
">\n\nGotta keep 'em in, because keeping 'em in lets you bark to the clowns about how you're Tough On Crime^tm .\nAlso, money. Because... hey, involving a profit motive in incarceration was a such a wonderful fucking idea that isn't open to flagrant abuses or anything.",
">\n\nThey already freed the slaves once they won't do it again....",
">\n\nShakin' the bush, boss"
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Why does Alabama still exist? I feel like that state is just a social experiment that got way the fuck out of hand.
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂",
">\n\nOh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.\nBut back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?",
">\n\nWhile everybody here is blaming for profit prisons and free labor etc, could this not also represent they are giving parole chances out very liberally, or some other reason?\nI mean I have no idea but god this website is so cynical sometimes",
">\n\nAs someone who was raised in Alabama, I assure you that cynicism is the only proper reaction.",
">\n\nSo 90% denial is a new low, as in they’ve always denied more?\nIt seems like it is trying to say they’ve approved a new low of parole requests, so the opposite.",
">\n\nNumerical low vs metaphorical low.",
">\n\nFuck that hoe. Push P bitch",
">\n\nPlease provide the data of how many black people this includes… I think there is more to the story here.. not one we don’t already know though.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone. Am I supposed to just be like, “oh wow your life is hard, guess you’re ok to go…” when some family has lost their loved one because of her? Nope. Not at all. It’s called justice.",
">\n\nThat's some bullshitery, clear as day.",
">\n\nSo before they denied more than 90%? Reading is hard, writing is apparently harder.",
">\n\nGreat news. Keep criminals behind bars and out of society.",
">\n\nAwful headline, but everybody pointing that out is being downvoted. I thought this was saying that 90% denial is the new low until I opened the article.",
">\n\nGotta keep the prison industrial complex happy",
">\n\nSomeones gotta be a surety for those bonds...",
">\n\nJfc, as a \"yankee\" (as you hicks call us) from Chicago, fuuuuck youse are all fucked up. Seriously, you are all fucked up. I don't know why anybody would want to live down there. Just goosh gives me the bumps. Seriously, fuck you all you backwards ass cousin fuckers.",
">\n\nAfter reading the article i think the reason behind it is just sad.\nThe inmate kept insisting that someone else committed the murder, that generally is a big \"No no\" and an admission of guilt for a crime a person has been sentenced to is Step One. That is generally one of the basic requirements to be granted parole anywhere (Not even US specific) that there is admission of guilt --> Regret --> Work towards becoming a better person.\nA terrible trap if she is innocent, but in the eyes of the law she isnt and thats what the parole board has to go with.",
">\n\nImagine that. Privately owned jails, keeping inmates locked up to get more money from the government. \nGood bless the confederacy ... I mean, the USA.",
">\n\nGotta keep 'em in, because keeping 'em in lets you bark to the clowns about how you're Tough On Crime^tm .\nAlso, money. Because... hey, involving a profit motive in incarceration was a such a wonderful fucking idea that isn't open to flagrant abuses or anything.",
">\n\nThey already freed the slaves once they won't do it again....",
">\n\nShakin' the bush, boss",
">\n\nWhat's your dirt doing in my hole, Luke? OK, you get a night in the box."
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"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people.",
">\n\nBecause they are people, and also will generally be people who will live among us again.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone.",
">\n\nYes, she did. She also has served 19 years in prison, is dying of renal disease, and is in a wheelchair.\nAlso, you said, \"people.\" That is a plural word, in case you didn't know. It refers to multiple humans.",
">\n\nDo you feel bad for the Nazi guards who are like 90 in prison?",
">\n\nYou saying that you think potentially killing someone breaking into your house is the same as... Carrying out the holocaust?",
">\n\n“Potentially”…? Sorry, are you the judge? Did you review all of the crime scene evidence? Were you there? Obviously she was handed a 35 year sentence for a reason you fucking clown. If you kill someone on purpose, then rot in prison for life. No remorse for scum. This is 2023 baby.",
">\n\nOh, shit, I hadn't realised I was talking to someone who had done all those things. So where were you in the courtroom? Jury, defense council, stenographer?\nBecause boy it looks like you're determining a level of guilt here that not even the court agreed with, and proscribing a level of punishment beyond what they mandated. On what evidence? Feelings, assumptions and sadism?\nBefore we move on though, what part of her testimony and the court proceedings suggested she was like a Nazi guard, though? What did she do at the camps?",
">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty. And she was proven guilty ya fucking bozo 😂",
">\n\nOh, so I guess the legal system doesn't need all those pesky 'appeals processes', because some idiot quotes a saying that isn't actually true in the legal system.\nBut back to the camp guard thing. How many people did she push into the chambers?",
">\n\nWhile everybody here is blaming for profit prisons and free labor etc, could this not also represent they are giving parole chances out very liberally, or some other reason?\nI mean I have no idea but god this website is so cynical sometimes",
">\n\nAs someone who was raised in Alabama, I assure you that cynicism is the only proper reaction.",
">\n\nSo 90% denial is a new low, as in they’ve always denied more?\nIt seems like it is trying to say they’ve approved a new low of parole requests, so the opposite.",
">\n\nNumerical low vs metaphorical low.",
">\n\nFuck that hoe. Push P bitch",
">\n\nPlease provide the data of how many black people this includes… I think there is more to the story here.. not one we don’t already know though.",
">\n\nShe murdered someone. Am I supposed to just be like, “oh wow your life is hard, guess you’re ok to go…” when some family has lost their loved one because of her? Nope. Not at all. It’s called justice.",
">\n\nThat's some bullshitery, clear as day.",
">\n\nSo before they denied more than 90%? Reading is hard, writing is apparently harder.",
">\n\nGreat news. Keep criminals behind bars and out of society.",
">\n\nAwful headline, but everybody pointing that out is being downvoted. I thought this was saying that 90% denial is the new low until I opened the article.",
">\n\nGotta keep the prison industrial complex happy",
">\n\nSomeones gotta be a surety for those bonds...",
">\n\nJfc, as a \"yankee\" (as you hicks call us) from Chicago, fuuuuck youse are all fucked up. Seriously, you are all fucked up. I don't know why anybody would want to live down there. Just goosh gives me the bumps. Seriously, fuck you all you backwards ass cousin fuckers.",
">\n\nAfter reading the article i think the reason behind it is just sad.\nThe inmate kept insisting that someone else committed the murder, that generally is a big \"No no\" and an admission of guilt for a crime a person has been sentenced to is Step One. That is generally one of the basic requirements to be granted parole anywhere (Not even US specific) that there is admission of guilt --> Regret --> Work towards becoming a better person.\nA terrible trap if she is innocent, but in the eyes of the law she isnt and thats what the parole board has to go with.",
">\n\nImagine that. Privately owned jails, keeping inmates locked up to get more money from the government. \nGood bless the confederacy ... I mean, the USA.",
">\n\nGotta keep 'em in, because keeping 'em in lets you bark to the clowns about how you're Tough On Crime^tm .\nAlso, money. Because... hey, involving a profit motive in incarceration was a such a wonderful fucking idea that isn't open to flagrant abuses or anything.",
">\n\nThey already freed the slaves once they won't do it again....",
">\n\nShakin' the bush, boss",
">\n\nWhat's your dirt doing in my hole, Luke? OK, you get a night in the box.",
">\n\nWhy does Alabama still exist? I feel like that state is just a social experiment that got way the fuck out of hand."
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He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!
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No one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.
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Quantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.
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Only in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.
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">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names."
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Or be a grifter and become President to make money
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"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it."
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Lies, schmies!
The GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.
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"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money"
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And the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.
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"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol."
] |
>
At this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options."
] |
>
No shit. He’s a complete sociopath.
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies"
] |
>
Can you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath."
] |
>
Republicans said "even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal"
Donald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said "challenge accepted"
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf"
] |
>
If liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\""
] |
>
Just, wow
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?"
] |
>
Just heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow"
] |
>
They already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!"
] |
>
Science and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them."
] |
>
Why is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least."
] |
>
I understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh."
] |
>
I have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos.
Yet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos."
] |
>
That's f***ed up, man.
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse."
] |
>
The thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off "small business" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).
Seems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees.
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man."
] |
>
Science and Space committee seems appropriate for the first man to walk on the Moon, no?
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man.",
">\n\nThe thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off \"small business\" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).\nSeems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees."
] |
>
wait.. did he say he got these... or did someone that doesn't only speak in lies say this?
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man.",
">\n\nThe thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off \"small business\" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).\nSeems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees.",
">\n\nScience and Space committee seems appropriate for the first man to walk on the Moon, no?"
] |
>
They didn’t need to actually put him on any committees. He would have just lied and said he was on them.
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man.",
">\n\nThe thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off \"small business\" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).\nSeems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees.",
">\n\nScience and Space committee seems appropriate for the first man to walk on the Moon, no?",
">\n\nwait.. did he say he got these... or did someone that doesn't only speak in lies say this?"
] |
>
It will only get worse. As the Republicans have no desire to vet or police their own, grifters, liars, psychos, and criminals will all be drawn to run for positions. They know it will afford themselves immunity and the ability to earn while voters, fueled only by outrage and hatred for democrats, will keep voting them in.
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man.",
">\n\nThe thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off \"small business\" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).\nSeems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees.",
">\n\nScience and Space committee seems appropriate for the first man to walk on the Moon, no?",
">\n\nwait.. did he say he got these... or did someone that doesn't only speak in lies say this?",
">\n\nThey didn’t need to actually put him on any committees. He would have just lied and said he was on them."
] |
>
Well on the bright side at lest he wasn’t put on the national security one.
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man.",
">\n\nThe thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off \"small business\" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).\nSeems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees.",
">\n\nScience and Space committee seems appropriate for the first man to walk on the Moon, no?",
">\n\nwait.. did he say he got these... or did someone that doesn't only speak in lies say this?",
">\n\nThey didn’t need to actually put him on any committees. He would have just lied and said he was on them.",
">\n\nIt will only get worse. As the Republicans have no desire to vet or police their own, grifters, liars, psychos, and criminals will all be drawn to run for positions. They know it will afford themselves immunity and the ability to earn while voters, fueled only by outrage and hatred for democrats, will keep voting them in."
] |
>
He’s a 1 term Congressman if he doesn’t get kicked out first. One and done!
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man.",
">\n\nThe thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off \"small business\" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).\nSeems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees.",
">\n\nScience and Space committee seems appropriate for the first man to walk on the Moon, no?",
">\n\nwait.. did he say he got these... or did someone that doesn't only speak in lies say this?",
">\n\nThey didn’t need to actually put him on any committees. He would have just lied and said he was on them.",
">\n\nIt will only get worse. As the Republicans have no desire to vet or police their own, grifters, liars, psychos, and criminals will all be drawn to run for positions. They know it will afford themselves immunity and the ability to earn while voters, fueled only by outrage and hatred for democrats, will keep voting them in.",
">\n\nWell on the bright side at lest he wasn’t put on the national security one."
] |
>
This should help:
Disabled Veteran: George Santos Took $3K From Dying Dog's GoFundMe
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man.",
">\n\nThe thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off \"small business\" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).\nSeems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees.",
">\n\nScience and Space committee seems appropriate for the first man to walk on the Moon, no?",
">\n\nwait.. did he say he got these... or did someone that doesn't only speak in lies say this?",
">\n\nThey didn’t need to actually put him on any committees. He would have just lied and said he was on them.",
">\n\nIt will only get worse. As the Republicans have no desire to vet or police their own, grifters, liars, psychos, and criminals will all be drawn to run for positions. They know it will afford themselves immunity and the ability to earn while voters, fueled only by outrage and hatred for democrats, will keep voting them in.",
">\n\nWell on the bright side at lest he wasn’t put on the national security one.",
">\n\nHe’s a 1 term Congressman if he doesn’t get kicked out first. One and done!"
] |
>
I fucking love this lol. It’s entertaining
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man.",
">\n\nThe thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off \"small business\" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).\nSeems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees.",
">\n\nScience and Space committee seems appropriate for the first man to walk on the Moon, no?",
">\n\nwait.. did he say he got these... or did someone that doesn't only speak in lies say this?",
">\n\nThey didn’t need to actually put him on any committees. He would have just lied and said he was on them.",
">\n\nIt will only get worse. As the Republicans have no desire to vet or police their own, grifters, liars, psychos, and criminals will all be drawn to run for positions. They know it will afford themselves immunity and the ability to earn while voters, fueled only by outrage and hatred for democrats, will keep voting them in.",
">\n\nWell on the bright side at lest he wasn’t put on the national security one.",
">\n\nHe’s a 1 term Congressman if he doesn’t get kicked out first. One and done!",
">\n\nThis should help:\nDisabled Veteran: George Santos Took $3K From Dying Dog's GoFundMe"
] |
>
hey the guy discovered 300 livable planets and wrote the proof for building an artificial gravity device. He should be on the science committee.
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man.",
">\n\nThe thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off \"small business\" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).\nSeems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees.",
">\n\nScience and Space committee seems appropriate for the first man to walk on the Moon, no?",
">\n\nwait.. did he say he got these... or did someone that doesn't only speak in lies say this?",
">\n\nThey didn’t need to actually put him on any committees. He would have just lied and said he was on them.",
">\n\nIt will only get worse. As the Republicans have no desire to vet or police their own, grifters, liars, psychos, and criminals will all be drawn to run for positions. They know it will afford themselves immunity and the ability to earn while voters, fueled only by outrage and hatred for democrats, will keep voting them in.",
">\n\nWell on the bright side at lest he wasn’t put on the national security one.",
">\n\nHe’s a 1 term Congressman if he doesn’t get kicked out first. One and done!",
">\n\nThis should help:\nDisabled Veteran: George Santos Took $3K From Dying Dog's GoFundMe",
">\n\nI fucking love this lol. It’s entertaining"
] |
>
Uh, dude tf is wrong with you, seriously! It was only 250 planets.
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man.",
">\n\nThe thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off \"small business\" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).\nSeems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees.",
">\n\nScience and Space committee seems appropriate for the first man to walk on the Moon, no?",
">\n\nwait.. did he say he got these... or did someone that doesn't only speak in lies say this?",
">\n\nThey didn’t need to actually put him on any committees. He would have just lied and said he was on them.",
">\n\nIt will only get worse. As the Republicans have no desire to vet or police their own, grifters, liars, psychos, and criminals will all be drawn to run for positions. They know it will afford themselves immunity and the ability to earn while voters, fueled only by outrage and hatred for democrats, will keep voting them in.",
">\n\nWell on the bright side at lest he wasn’t put on the national security one.",
">\n\nHe’s a 1 term Congressman if he doesn’t get kicked out first. One and done!",
">\n\nThis should help:\nDisabled Veteran: George Santos Took $3K From Dying Dog's GoFundMe",
">\n\nI fucking love this lol. It’s entertaining",
">\n\nhey the guy discovered 300 livable planets and wrote the proof for building an artificial gravity device. He should be on the science committee."
] |
>
That was yesterday... you have to keep up.
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man.",
">\n\nThe thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off \"small business\" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).\nSeems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees.",
">\n\nScience and Space committee seems appropriate for the first man to walk on the Moon, no?",
">\n\nwait.. did he say he got these... or did someone that doesn't only speak in lies say this?",
">\n\nThey didn’t need to actually put him on any committees. He would have just lied and said he was on them.",
">\n\nIt will only get worse. As the Republicans have no desire to vet or police their own, grifters, liars, psychos, and criminals will all be drawn to run for positions. They know it will afford themselves immunity and the ability to earn while voters, fueled only by outrage and hatred for democrats, will keep voting them in.",
">\n\nWell on the bright side at lest he wasn’t put on the national security one.",
">\n\nHe’s a 1 term Congressman if he doesn’t get kicked out first. One and done!",
">\n\nThis should help:\nDisabled Veteran: George Santos Took $3K From Dying Dog's GoFundMe",
">\n\nI fucking love this lol. It’s entertaining",
">\n\nhey the guy discovered 300 livable planets and wrote the proof for building an artificial gravity device. He should be on the science committee.",
">\n\nUh, dude tf is wrong with you, seriously! It was only 250 planets."
] |
>
Dang, you're right. At this pace, Santos will map the entire galaxy within a few years. Definitely one of our finest scienticians!
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man.",
">\n\nThe thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off \"small business\" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).\nSeems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees.",
">\n\nScience and Space committee seems appropriate for the first man to walk on the Moon, no?",
">\n\nwait.. did he say he got these... or did someone that doesn't only speak in lies say this?",
">\n\nThey didn’t need to actually put him on any committees. He would have just lied and said he was on them.",
">\n\nIt will only get worse. As the Republicans have no desire to vet or police their own, grifters, liars, psychos, and criminals will all be drawn to run for positions. They know it will afford themselves immunity and the ability to earn while voters, fueled only by outrage and hatred for democrats, will keep voting them in.",
">\n\nWell on the bright side at lest he wasn’t put on the national security one.",
">\n\nHe’s a 1 term Congressman if he doesn’t get kicked out first. One and done!",
">\n\nThis should help:\nDisabled Veteran: George Santos Took $3K From Dying Dog's GoFundMe",
">\n\nI fucking love this lol. It’s entertaining",
">\n\nhey the guy discovered 300 livable planets and wrote the proof for building an artificial gravity device. He should be on the science committee.",
">\n\nUh, dude tf is wrong with you, seriously! It was only 250 planets.",
">\n\nThat was yesterday... you have to keep up."
] |
>
I'm waiting for his warp drive announcement.
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man.",
">\n\nThe thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off \"small business\" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).\nSeems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees.",
">\n\nScience and Space committee seems appropriate for the first man to walk on the Moon, no?",
">\n\nwait.. did he say he got these... or did someone that doesn't only speak in lies say this?",
">\n\nThey didn’t need to actually put him on any committees. He would have just lied and said he was on them.",
">\n\nIt will only get worse. As the Republicans have no desire to vet or police their own, grifters, liars, psychos, and criminals will all be drawn to run for positions. They know it will afford themselves immunity and the ability to earn while voters, fueled only by outrage and hatred for democrats, will keep voting them in.",
">\n\nWell on the bright side at lest he wasn’t put on the national security one.",
">\n\nHe’s a 1 term Congressman if he doesn’t get kicked out first. One and done!",
">\n\nThis should help:\nDisabled Veteran: George Santos Took $3K From Dying Dog's GoFundMe",
">\n\nI fucking love this lol. It’s entertaining",
">\n\nhey the guy discovered 300 livable planets and wrote the proof for building an artificial gravity device. He should be on the science committee.",
">\n\nUh, dude tf is wrong with you, seriously! It was only 250 planets.",
">\n\nThat was yesterday... you have to keep up.",
">\n\nDang, you're right. At this pace, Santos will map the entire galaxy within a few years. Definitely one of our finest scienticians!"
] |
>
Oh, no that's in 1,000+ years. Only cyborg Santos will make that for us.
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man.",
">\n\nThe thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off \"small business\" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).\nSeems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees.",
">\n\nScience and Space committee seems appropriate for the first man to walk on the Moon, no?",
">\n\nwait.. did he say he got these... or did someone that doesn't only speak in lies say this?",
">\n\nThey didn’t need to actually put him on any committees. He would have just lied and said he was on them.",
">\n\nIt will only get worse. As the Republicans have no desire to vet or police their own, grifters, liars, psychos, and criminals will all be drawn to run for positions. They know it will afford themselves immunity and the ability to earn while voters, fueled only by outrage and hatred for democrats, will keep voting them in.",
">\n\nWell on the bright side at lest he wasn’t put on the national security one.",
">\n\nHe’s a 1 term Congressman if he doesn’t get kicked out first. One and done!",
">\n\nThis should help:\nDisabled Veteran: George Santos Took $3K From Dying Dog's GoFundMe",
">\n\nI fucking love this lol. It’s entertaining",
">\n\nhey the guy discovered 300 livable planets and wrote the proof for building an artificial gravity device. He should be on the science committee.",
">\n\nUh, dude tf is wrong with you, seriously! It was only 250 planets.",
">\n\nThat was yesterday... you have to keep up.",
">\n\nDang, you're right. At this pace, Santos will map the entire galaxy within a few years. Definitely one of our finest scienticians!",
">\n\nI'm waiting for his warp drive announcement."
] |
>
But cyborg Santos will still never find the women’s g spot….
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man.",
">\n\nThe thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off \"small business\" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).\nSeems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees.",
">\n\nScience and Space committee seems appropriate for the first man to walk on the Moon, no?",
">\n\nwait.. did he say he got these... or did someone that doesn't only speak in lies say this?",
">\n\nThey didn’t need to actually put him on any committees. He would have just lied and said he was on them.",
">\n\nIt will only get worse. As the Republicans have no desire to vet or police their own, grifters, liars, psychos, and criminals will all be drawn to run for positions. They know it will afford themselves immunity and the ability to earn while voters, fueled only by outrage and hatred for democrats, will keep voting them in.",
">\n\nWell on the bright side at lest he wasn’t put on the national security one.",
">\n\nHe’s a 1 term Congressman if he doesn’t get kicked out first. One and done!",
">\n\nThis should help:\nDisabled Veteran: George Santos Took $3K From Dying Dog's GoFundMe",
">\n\nI fucking love this lol. It’s entertaining",
">\n\nhey the guy discovered 300 livable planets and wrote the proof for building an artificial gravity device. He should be on the science committee.",
">\n\nUh, dude tf is wrong with you, seriously! It was only 250 planets.",
">\n\nThat was yesterday... you have to keep up.",
">\n\nDang, you're right. At this pace, Santos will map the entire galaxy within a few years. Definitely one of our finest scienticians!",
">\n\nI'm waiting for his warp drive announcement.",
">\n\nOh, no that's in 1,000+ years. Only cyborg Santos will make that for us."
] |
>
We've got a mole Smiley, right at the top of the circus.
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man.",
">\n\nThe thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off \"small business\" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).\nSeems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees.",
">\n\nScience and Space committee seems appropriate for the first man to walk on the Moon, no?",
">\n\nwait.. did he say he got these... or did someone that doesn't only speak in lies say this?",
">\n\nThey didn’t need to actually put him on any committees. He would have just lied and said he was on them.",
">\n\nIt will only get worse. As the Republicans have no desire to vet or police their own, grifters, liars, psychos, and criminals will all be drawn to run for positions. They know it will afford themselves immunity and the ability to earn while voters, fueled only by outrage and hatred for democrats, will keep voting them in.",
">\n\nWell on the bright side at lest he wasn’t put on the national security one.",
">\n\nHe’s a 1 term Congressman if he doesn’t get kicked out first. One and done!",
">\n\nThis should help:\nDisabled Veteran: George Santos Took $3K From Dying Dog's GoFundMe",
">\n\nI fucking love this lol. It’s entertaining",
">\n\nhey the guy discovered 300 livable planets and wrote the proof for building an artificial gravity device. He should be on the science committee.",
">\n\nUh, dude tf is wrong with you, seriously! It was only 250 planets.",
">\n\nThat was yesterday... you have to keep up.",
">\n\nDang, you're right. At this pace, Santos will map the entire galaxy within a few years. Definitely one of our finest scienticians!",
">\n\nI'm waiting for his warp drive announcement.",
">\n\nOh, no that's in 1,000+ years. Only cyborg Santos will make that for us.",
">\n\nBut cyborg Santos will still never find the women’s g spot…."
] |
>
Epic thread.
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man.",
">\n\nThe thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off \"small business\" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).\nSeems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees.",
">\n\nScience and Space committee seems appropriate for the first man to walk on the Moon, no?",
">\n\nwait.. did he say he got these... or did someone that doesn't only speak in lies say this?",
">\n\nThey didn’t need to actually put him on any committees. He would have just lied and said he was on them.",
">\n\nIt will only get worse. As the Republicans have no desire to vet or police their own, grifters, liars, psychos, and criminals will all be drawn to run for positions. They know it will afford themselves immunity and the ability to earn while voters, fueled only by outrage and hatred for democrats, will keep voting them in.",
">\n\nWell on the bright side at lest he wasn’t put on the national security one.",
">\n\nHe’s a 1 term Congressman if he doesn’t get kicked out first. One and done!",
">\n\nThis should help:\nDisabled Veteran: George Santos Took $3K From Dying Dog's GoFundMe",
">\n\nI fucking love this lol. It’s entertaining",
">\n\nhey the guy discovered 300 livable planets and wrote the proof for building an artificial gravity device. He should be on the science committee.",
">\n\nUh, dude tf is wrong with you, seriously! It was only 250 planets.",
">\n\nThat was yesterday... you have to keep up.",
">\n\nDang, you're right. At this pace, Santos will map the entire galaxy within a few years. Definitely one of our finest scienticians!",
">\n\nI'm waiting for his warp drive announcement.",
">\n\nOh, no that's in 1,000+ years. Only cyborg Santos will make that for us.",
">\n\nBut cyborg Santos will still never find the women’s g spot….",
">\n\nWe've got a mole Smiley, right at the top of the circus."
] |
>
Two subjects republicans could give a fuck less about. It tracks
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man.",
">\n\nThe thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off \"small business\" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).\nSeems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees.",
">\n\nScience and Space committee seems appropriate for the first man to walk on the Moon, no?",
">\n\nwait.. did he say he got these... or did someone that doesn't only speak in lies say this?",
">\n\nThey didn’t need to actually put him on any committees. He would have just lied and said he was on them.",
">\n\nIt will only get worse. As the Republicans have no desire to vet or police their own, grifters, liars, psychos, and criminals will all be drawn to run for positions. They know it will afford themselves immunity and the ability to earn while voters, fueled only by outrage and hatred for democrats, will keep voting them in.",
">\n\nWell on the bright side at lest he wasn’t put on the national security one.",
">\n\nHe’s a 1 term Congressman if he doesn’t get kicked out first. One and done!",
">\n\nThis should help:\nDisabled Veteran: George Santos Took $3K From Dying Dog's GoFundMe",
">\n\nI fucking love this lol. It’s entertaining",
">\n\nhey the guy discovered 300 livable planets and wrote the proof for building an artificial gravity device. He should be on the science committee.",
">\n\nUh, dude tf is wrong with you, seriously! It was only 250 planets.",
">\n\nThat was yesterday... you have to keep up.",
">\n\nDang, you're right. At this pace, Santos will map the entire galaxy within a few years. Definitely one of our finest scienticians!",
">\n\nI'm waiting for his warp drive announcement.",
">\n\nOh, no that's in 1,000+ years. Only cyborg Santos will make that for us.",
">\n\nBut cyborg Santos will still never find the women’s g spot….",
">\n\nWe've got a mole Smiley, right at the top of the circus.",
">\n\nEpic thread."
] |
>
Damn he’s a creepy looking motherfucker.
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man.",
">\n\nThe thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off \"small business\" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).\nSeems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees.",
">\n\nScience and Space committee seems appropriate for the first man to walk on the Moon, no?",
">\n\nwait.. did he say he got these... or did someone that doesn't only speak in lies say this?",
">\n\nThey didn’t need to actually put him on any committees. He would have just lied and said he was on them.",
">\n\nIt will only get worse. As the Republicans have no desire to vet or police their own, grifters, liars, psychos, and criminals will all be drawn to run for positions. They know it will afford themselves immunity and the ability to earn while voters, fueled only by outrage and hatred for democrats, will keep voting them in.",
">\n\nWell on the bright side at lest he wasn’t put on the national security one.",
">\n\nHe’s a 1 term Congressman if he doesn’t get kicked out first. One and done!",
">\n\nThis should help:\nDisabled Veteran: George Santos Took $3K From Dying Dog's GoFundMe",
">\n\nI fucking love this lol. It’s entertaining",
">\n\nhey the guy discovered 300 livable planets and wrote the proof for building an artificial gravity device. He should be on the science committee.",
">\n\nUh, dude tf is wrong with you, seriously! It was only 250 planets.",
">\n\nThat was yesterday... you have to keep up.",
">\n\nDang, you're right. At this pace, Santos will map the entire galaxy within a few years. Definitely one of our finest scienticians!",
">\n\nI'm waiting for his warp drive announcement.",
">\n\nOh, no that's in 1,000+ years. Only cyborg Santos will make that for us.",
">\n\nBut cyborg Santos will still never find the women’s g spot….",
">\n\nWe've got a mole Smiley, right at the top of the circus.",
">\n\nEpic thread.",
">\n\nTwo subjects republicans could give a fuck less about. It tracks"
] |
>
Party over country.. complete bs
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man.",
">\n\nThe thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off \"small business\" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).\nSeems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees.",
">\n\nScience and Space committee seems appropriate for the first man to walk on the Moon, no?",
">\n\nwait.. did he say he got these... or did someone that doesn't only speak in lies say this?",
">\n\nThey didn’t need to actually put him on any committees. He would have just lied and said he was on them.",
">\n\nIt will only get worse. As the Republicans have no desire to vet or police their own, grifters, liars, psychos, and criminals will all be drawn to run for positions. They know it will afford themselves immunity and the ability to earn while voters, fueled only by outrage and hatred for democrats, will keep voting them in.",
">\n\nWell on the bright side at lest he wasn’t put on the national security one.",
">\n\nHe’s a 1 term Congressman if he doesn’t get kicked out first. One and done!",
">\n\nThis should help:\nDisabled Veteran: George Santos Took $3K From Dying Dog's GoFundMe",
">\n\nI fucking love this lol. It’s entertaining",
">\n\nhey the guy discovered 300 livable planets and wrote the proof for building an artificial gravity device. He should be on the science committee.",
">\n\nUh, dude tf is wrong with you, seriously! It was only 250 planets.",
">\n\nThat was yesterday... you have to keep up.",
">\n\nDang, you're right. At this pace, Santos will map the entire galaxy within a few years. Definitely one of our finest scienticians!",
">\n\nI'm waiting for his warp drive announcement.",
">\n\nOh, no that's in 1,000+ years. Only cyborg Santos will make that for us.",
">\n\nBut cyborg Santos will still never find the women’s g spot….",
">\n\nWe've got a mole Smiley, right at the top of the circus.",
">\n\nEpic thread.",
">\n\nTwo subjects republicans could give a fuck less about. It tracks",
">\n\nDamn he’s a creepy looking motherfucker."
] |
>
It just shows that the GOP have no regard for ethics. Trump taught them well.
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man.",
">\n\nThe thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off \"small business\" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).\nSeems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees.",
">\n\nScience and Space committee seems appropriate for the first man to walk on the Moon, no?",
">\n\nwait.. did he say he got these... or did someone that doesn't only speak in lies say this?",
">\n\nThey didn’t need to actually put him on any committees. He would have just lied and said he was on them.",
">\n\nIt will only get worse. As the Republicans have no desire to vet or police their own, grifters, liars, psychos, and criminals will all be drawn to run for positions. They know it will afford themselves immunity and the ability to earn while voters, fueled only by outrage and hatred for democrats, will keep voting them in.",
">\n\nWell on the bright side at lest he wasn’t put on the national security one.",
">\n\nHe’s a 1 term Congressman if he doesn’t get kicked out first. One and done!",
">\n\nThis should help:\nDisabled Veteran: George Santos Took $3K From Dying Dog's GoFundMe",
">\n\nI fucking love this lol. It’s entertaining",
">\n\nhey the guy discovered 300 livable planets and wrote the proof for building an artificial gravity device. He should be on the science committee.",
">\n\nUh, dude tf is wrong with you, seriously! It was only 250 planets.",
">\n\nThat was yesterday... you have to keep up.",
">\n\nDang, you're right. At this pace, Santos will map the entire galaxy within a few years. Definitely one of our finest scienticians!",
">\n\nI'm waiting for his warp drive announcement.",
">\n\nOh, no that's in 1,000+ years. Only cyborg Santos will make that for us.",
">\n\nBut cyborg Santos will still never find the women’s g spot….",
">\n\nWe've got a mole Smiley, right at the top of the circus.",
">\n\nEpic thread.",
">\n\nTwo subjects republicans could give a fuck less about. It tracks",
">\n\nDamn he’s a creepy looking motherfucker.",
">\n\nParty over country.. complete bs"
] |
>
|
[
"He did come up with the Unified Field Theory so the Science Committee is a perfect fit!",
">\n\nNo one knows more about quantum truth then George Santos.",
">\n\nQuantum theory explains how he can simultaneously have two separate and distinct names.",
">\n\nOnly in the United States of America can you fabricate your entire life story to get elected and face no consequences for it.",
">\n\nOr be a grifter and become President to make money",
">\n\nLies, schmies!\nThe GQP is rewarding him for doing whatever it took to win election. Kudos for not needing an attack on the Capitol.",
">\n\nAnd the old guard will keep rewarding him as long as he supports my Kevin. He’s in with the child sex trafficker guy. He’s got options.",
">\n\nAt this point it's beyond safe to say that Santos has some sort of a psychological disorder. Lifetimes full of massive massive lies",
">\n\nNo shit. He’s a complete sociopath.",
">\n\nCan you imagine being on a committee with this dude? like wtf",
">\n\nRepublicans said \"even the absolute worst of us is better than the best liberal\"\nDonald Trump, Herschel Walker, and George Santos said \"challenge accepted\"",
">\n\nIf liars didn’t get unearned rewards, how exactly would Republicans get anything?",
">\n\nJust, wow",
">\n\nJust heard both MTG AND Bobo will be on the Oversight Committee too. Get ready for 🐱 fights!",
">\n\nThey already know he'll do whatever it takes to line his pockets. This is just a small gift with the promise of more so long as he continues to do whatever it takes to enrich the rest of them.",
">\n\nScience and Small Business: the two subjects that Republicans care about the least.",
">\n\nWhy is it that whenever there's a picture of him, he looks like he just farted in a crowded elevator and he's trying not to laugh.",
">\n\nI understand the small business committee. I mean if anybody in Congress knows about shoplifting and petty theft, it's George Santos.",
">\n\nI have seen a lot of punditry questioning why Democrats didn't do better opposition research on Santos. Punditry questioning why no journalists caught on and exposed Santos. \nYet it is the Republican Party that put Santos on a ticket!! Why is everyone else responsible for what the Republican Party has done? I keep reading that McCarthy and moderates have no choice but to work with Santos because they need his vote. That is a tired and pathetic excuse.",
">\n\nThat's f***ed up, man.",
">\n\nThe thing Republicans want to shriek lies at (science), and the biggest bullshit purveyors (vanity and tax write-off \"small business\" incorporations and LLCs for the wealthy).\nSeems like Republicans brought in their expert, George Santos, to the committees.",
">\n\nScience and Space committee seems appropriate for the first man to walk on the Moon, no?",
">\n\nwait.. did he say he got these... or did someone that doesn't only speak in lies say this?",
">\n\nThey didn’t need to actually put him on any committees. He would have just lied and said he was on them.",
">\n\nIt will only get worse. As the Republicans have no desire to vet or police their own, grifters, liars, psychos, and criminals will all be drawn to run for positions. They know it will afford themselves immunity and the ability to earn while voters, fueled only by outrage and hatred for democrats, will keep voting them in.",
">\n\nWell on the bright side at lest he wasn’t put on the national security one.",
">\n\nHe’s a 1 term Congressman if he doesn’t get kicked out first. One and done!",
">\n\nThis should help:\nDisabled Veteran: George Santos Took $3K From Dying Dog's GoFundMe",
">\n\nI fucking love this lol. It’s entertaining",
">\n\nhey the guy discovered 300 livable planets and wrote the proof for building an artificial gravity device. He should be on the science committee.",
">\n\nUh, dude tf is wrong with you, seriously! It was only 250 planets.",
">\n\nThat was yesterday... you have to keep up.",
">\n\nDang, you're right. At this pace, Santos will map the entire galaxy within a few years. Definitely one of our finest scienticians!",
">\n\nI'm waiting for his warp drive announcement.",
">\n\nOh, no that's in 1,000+ years. Only cyborg Santos will make that for us.",
">\n\nBut cyborg Santos will still never find the women’s g spot….",
">\n\nWe've got a mole Smiley, right at the top of the circus.",
">\n\nEpic thread.",
">\n\nTwo subjects republicans could give a fuck less about. It tracks",
">\n\nDamn he’s a creepy looking motherfucker.",
">\n\nParty over country.. complete bs",
">\n\nIt just shows that the GOP have no regard for ethics. Trump taught them well."
] |
It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female.
I’d like to see that happen.
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[] |
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Well first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.
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[
"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen."
] |
>
I detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.
|
[
"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence."
] |
>
“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia
|
[
"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot."
] |
>
Then I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates.
|
[
"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia"
] |
>
This is what upsets a lot of ppl. If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State. Now we hear the Fulton County DA can seek an indictment w/o waiting for the Judge.
|
[
"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia",
">\n\nThen I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates."
] |
>
If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State.
Everybody likes to say that, but it's simply not true. They've had a grand jury examining evidence for months. The call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time of the call and proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended for Raffensberger to commit election fraud, when his words technically said otherwise.
I imagine the House Committee report will be invaluable in demonstrating that Trump knew he was lying on that phone call. Rushing a prosecution before those hearings concluded would have been foolhardy.
|
[
"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia",
">\n\nThen I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates.",
">\n\nThis is what upsets a lot of ppl. If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State. Now we hear the Fulton County DA can seek an indictment w/o waiting for the Judge."
] |
>
The call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time
Evidence of Trump's mental state? Like wtf? There's no reason to suspect Trump wasn't of sound mind when he made that call, why would the prosecution need to gather evidence regarding his mental state?
All the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call. Especially when paired with all the publicly avaliable Trump's unproven claims of stolen elections - as if the context of a incumbent struggling for a second term and abusing his presudential position to influence election officials wasn't enough already. On top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years.
So either we're gonna keep making excuses why an attempt to overturn American democracy has gone unpunished, or it's time to finally face the fact that Trump is above the law, and unless the American public actively demands justice, nothings going to be done, and Trump won't live to see the inside of a courthouse, much less a conviction.
|
[
"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia",
">\n\nThen I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates.",
">\n\nThis is what upsets a lot of ppl. If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State. Now we hear the Fulton County DA can seek an indictment w/o waiting for the Judge.",
">\n\n\nIf Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State.\n\nEverybody likes to say that, but it's simply not true. They've had a grand jury examining evidence for months. The call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time of the call and proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended for Raffensberger to commit election fraud, when his words technically said otherwise. \nI imagine the House Committee report will be invaluable in demonstrating that Trump knew he was lying on that phone call. Rushing a prosecution before those hearings concluded would have been foolhardy."
] |
>
All the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call.
Where did you go to law school?
The Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent. It is the prosecution's burden of proof to demonstrate that Trump meant "feloniously fabricate 11,780 votes that don't exist," when technically his words said "my sources tell me that thousands of my votes were illegally discarded and thousands of Biden votes were illegally created, so I need you to investigate until you find enough of these fraudulent votes, at least 11,780, to show that the election was stolen from me."
Of course we all know what he really meant. But the law is very literal, and the prosecution is required to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he meant something different from what he said. If anyone on that jury suspects that Trump really believed there was ballot-stuffing in Georgia, then the prosecution fails to prove criminal intent, and therefore he cannot be convicted of solicitation of election fraud.
I wouldn't want to be the prosecutor who has to prove Donald J. Trump didn't believe a conspiracy theory that served his ego.
On top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years.
And that is exactly what they have been doing. There have been grand juries examining evidence, gathering testimony and communications records from various election officials, lawmakers, people in Trump's orbit, etc., and, considering the timing of their recent conclusion, I presume they have also been examining the House Committee hearings, which make the strongest case so far that Trump knew he lost Georgia. I believe they are also looking at crimes beyond the phone call, related to fraud, intimidation, etc.
we're gonna keep making excuses
Nobody is making excuses to not prosecute Trump. I am explaining the legal steps they have been taking to prosecute him.
Everything Georgia has been doing signals that they are serious about building a strong case to prosecute Trump and, probably, others in his orbit. You don't impanel grand juries and subpoena congressmen and presidential advisors just for funsies.
Note that I'm not saying they definitely will indict, and I'm not saying "the walls are closing in, it's really gonna happen this time." There is still a possibility that that the Grand Jury has concluded "it's obvious Trump is guilty as fuck, but the evidence is ambiguous/circumstantial enough that it may not be possible to secure a conviction under the law as it is written. Given what we know, and what legal scholars have argued in various articles, I think it's more likely they will move forward with indictments.
Apparently under Georgia law, the next step is to impanel another Grand Jury with indictment powers. I don't know how long that process takes. Again, I'm not saying that Georgia will definitely indict: I don't have enough information to make this claim. But I am saying that they have done everything possible to get this case to third base with the bases loaded and a strong hitter at bat, so suggesting they are not serious about trying to hold Trump accountable is verifiably incorrect.
|
[
"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia",
">\n\nThen I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates.",
">\n\nThis is what upsets a lot of ppl. If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State. Now we hear the Fulton County DA can seek an indictment w/o waiting for the Judge.",
">\n\n\nIf Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State.\n\nEverybody likes to say that, but it's simply not true. They've had a grand jury examining evidence for months. The call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time of the call and proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended for Raffensberger to commit election fraud, when his words technically said otherwise. \nI imagine the House Committee report will be invaluable in demonstrating that Trump knew he was lying on that phone call. Rushing a prosecution before those hearings concluded would have been foolhardy.",
">\n\n\nThe call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time\n\nEvidence of Trump's mental state? Like wtf? There's no reason to suspect Trump wasn't of sound mind when he made that call, why would the prosecution need to gather evidence regarding his mental state? \nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call. Especially when paired with all the publicly avaliable Trump's unproven claims of stolen elections - as if the context of a incumbent struggling for a second term and abusing his presudential position to influence election officials wasn't enough already. On top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \nSo either we're gonna keep making excuses why an attempt to overturn American democracy has gone unpunished, or it's time to finally face the fact that Trump is above the law, and unless the American public actively demands justice, nothings going to be done, and Trump won't live to see the inside of a courthouse, much less a conviction."
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The Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent
When did I say that prosecutors should not bother proving Trump had an intent to falsy election results? And why did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent? Maybe because you realized your original post made no sense?
There have been grand juries examining evidence
Jan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.
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"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia",
">\n\nThen I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates.",
">\n\nThis is what upsets a lot of ppl. If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State. Now we hear the Fulton County DA can seek an indictment w/o waiting for the Judge.",
">\n\n\nIf Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State.\n\nEverybody likes to say that, but it's simply not true. They've had a grand jury examining evidence for months. The call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time of the call and proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended for Raffensberger to commit election fraud, when his words technically said otherwise. \nI imagine the House Committee report will be invaluable in demonstrating that Trump knew he was lying on that phone call. Rushing a prosecution before those hearings concluded would have been foolhardy.",
">\n\n\nThe call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time\n\nEvidence of Trump's mental state? Like wtf? There's no reason to suspect Trump wasn't of sound mind when he made that call, why would the prosecution need to gather evidence regarding his mental state? \nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call. Especially when paired with all the publicly avaliable Trump's unproven claims of stolen elections - as if the context of a incumbent struggling for a second term and abusing his presudential position to influence election officials wasn't enough already. On top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \nSo either we're gonna keep making excuses why an attempt to overturn American democracy has gone unpunished, or it's time to finally face the fact that Trump is above the law, and unless the American public actively demands justice, nothings going to be done, and Trump won't live to see the inside of a courthouse, much less a conviction.",
">\n\n\nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call.\n\nWhere did you go to law school? \nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent. It is the prosecution's burden of proof to demonstrate that Trump meant \"feloniously fabricate 11,780 votes that don't exist,\" when technically his words said \"my sources tell me that thousands of my votes were illegally discarded and thousands of Biden votes were illegally created, so I need you to investigate until you find enough of these fraudulent votes, at least 11,780, to show that the election was stolen from me.\" \nOf course we all know what he really meant. But the law is very literal, and the prosecution is required to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he meant something different from what he said. If anyone on that jury suspects that Trump really believed there was ballot-stuffing in Georgia, then the prosecution fails to prove criminal intent, and therefore he cannot be convicted of solicitation of election fraud. \nI wouldn't want to be the prosecutor who has to prove Donald J. Trump didn't believe a conspiracy theory that served his ego. \n\nOn top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \n\nAnd that is exactly what they have been doing. There have been grand juries examining evidence, gathering testimony and communications records from various election officials, lawmakers, people in Trump's orbit, etc., and, considering the timing of their recent conclusion, I presume they have also been examining the House Committee hearings, which make the strongest case so far that Trump knew he lost Georgia. I believe they are also looking at crimes beyond the phone call, related to fraud, intimidation, etc. \n\nwe're gonna keep making excuses \n\nNobody is making excuses to not prosecute Trump. I am explaining the legal steps they have been taking to prosecute him. \nEverything Georgia has been doing signals that they are serious about building a strong case to prosecute Trump and, probably, others in his orbit. You don't impanel grand juries and subpoena congressmen and presidential advisors just for funsies. \nNote that I'm not saying they definitely will indict, and I'm not saying \"the walls are closing in, it's really gonna happen this time.\" There is still a possibility that that the Grand Jury has concluded \"it's obvious Trump is guilty as fuck, but the evidence is ambiguous/circumstantial enough that it may not be possible to secure a conviction under the law as it is written. Given what we know, and what legal scholars have argued in various articles, I think it's more likely they will move forward with indictments. \nApparently under Georgia law, the next step is to impanel another Grand Jury with indictment powers. I don't know how long that process takes. Again, I'm not saying that Georgia will definitely indict: I don't have enough information to make this claim. But I am saying that they have done everything possible to get this case to third base with the bases loaded and a strong hitter at bat, so suggesting they are not serious about trying to hold Trump accountable is verifiably incorrect."
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why did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent?
These are both the same thing. A defendant's "mental state" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent. In this case, it is crucial for the prosecution to prove that Trump's state of mind, at the time of the phone call, was the felonious intention to willfully solicit a fabricated vote count.
Jan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.
The DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. The House Committee has reached a conclusion that Trump could be charged with at least 4 crimes, and has released all their evidence. The Georgia grand jury has reached a conclusion that has not yet been released, but I think it's likely it has gathered enough to justify criminal state level indictments.
I'm not going to say that indictments are definitely imminent, but the conclusions of these two major investigations suggest that we are significantly closer to, not farther from, the likelihood of seeing Trump in a courtroom.
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"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia",
">\n\nThen I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates.",
">\n\nThis is what upsets a lot of ppl. If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State. Now we hear the Fulton County DA can seek an indictment w/o waiting for the Judge.",
">\n\n\nIf Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State.\n\nEverybody likes to say that, but it's simply not true. They've had a grand jury examining evidence for months. The call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time of the call and proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended for Raffensberger to commit election fraud, when his words technically said otherwise. \nI imagine the House Committee report will be invaluable in demonstrating that Trump knew he was lying on that phone call. Rushing a prosecution before those hearings concluded would have been foolhardy.",
">\n\n\nThe call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time\n\nEvidence of Trump's mental state? Like wtf? There's no reason to suspect Trump wasn't of sound mind when he made that call, why would the prosecution need to gather evidence regarding his mental state? \nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call. Especially when paired with all the publicly avaliable Trump's unproven claims of stolen elections - as if the context of a incumbent struggling for a second term and abusing his presudential position to influence election officials wasn't enough already. On top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \nSo either we're gonna keep making excuses why an attempt to overturn American democracy has gone unpunished, or it's time to finally face the fact that Trump is above the law, and unless the American public actively demands justice, nothings going to be done, and Trump won't live to see the inside of a courthouse, much less a conviction.",
">\n\n\nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call.\n\nWhere did you go to law school? \nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent. It is the prosecution's burden of proof to demonstrate that Trump meant \"feloniously fabricate 11,780 votes that don't exist,\" when technically his words said \"my sources tell me that thousands of my votes were illegally discarded and thousands of Biden votes were illegally created, so I need you to investigate until you find enough of these fraudulent votes, at least 11,780, to show that the election was stolen from me.\" \nOf course we all know what he really meant. But the law is very literal, and the prosecution is required to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he meant something different from what he said. If anyone on that jury suspects that Trump really believed there was ballot-stuffing in Georgia, then the prosecution fails to prove criminal intent, and therefore he cannot be convicted of solicitation of election fraud. \nI wouldn't want to be the prosecutor who has to prove Donald J. Trump didn't believe a conspiracy theory that served his ego. \n\nOn top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \n\nAnd that is exactly what they have been doing. There have been grand juries examining evidence, gathering testimony and communications records from various election officials, lawmakers, people in Trump's orbit, etc., and, considering the timing of their recent conclusion, I presume they have also been examining the House Committee hearings, which make the strongest case so far that Trump knew he lost Georgia. I believe they are also looking at crimes beyond the phone call, related to fraud, intimidation, etc. \n\nwe're gonna keep making excuses \n\nNobody is making excuses to not prosecute Trump. I am explaining the legal steps they have been taking to prosecute him. \nEverything Georgia has been doing signals that they are serious about building a strong case to prosecute Trump and, probably, others in his orbit. You don't impanel grand juries and subpoena congressmen and presidential advisors just for funsies. \nNote that I'm not saying they definitely will indict, and I'm not saying \"the walls are closing in, it's really gonna happen this time.\" There is still a possibility that that the Grand Jury has concluded \"it's obvious Trump is guilty as fuck, but the evidence is ambiguous/circumstantial enough that it may not be possible to secure a conviction under the law as it is written. Given what we know, and what legal scholars have argued in various articles, I think it's more likely they will move forward with indictments. \nApparently under Georgia law, the next step is to impanel another Grand Jury with indictment powers. I don't know how long that process takes. Again, I'm not saying that Georgia will definitely indict: I don't have enough information to make this claim. But I am saying that they have done everything possible to get this case to third base with the bases loaded and a strong hitter at bat, so suggesting they are not serious about trying to hold Trump accountable is verifiably incorrect.",
">\n\n\nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent\n\nWhen did I say that prosecutors should not bother proving Trump had an intent to falsy election results? And why did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent? Maybe because you realized your original post made no sense?\n\nThere have been grand juries examining evidence\n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom."
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These are both the same thing. A defendant's "mental state" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent.
That's my mistake then, you were using such a broad term, I had no idea you wers referring to actual intent. I really didn't expect anyone would quest Trump's intent considering its blatantly obvious from the contents of his phone call, especially in the context of all his public statements regarding unbased claims of stolen elections.
With so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering without even an indicement, yet here we are.
The DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways.
And that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement.
I'll add that it's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months after Trump organized a coup to overthrow the US government.
Yet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.
It took all this time and effort just to reach a conclusion that Trump 'could be charged'.
That would be so completely laughable if the continuation of democracy itself wasn't in question.
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"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia",
">\n\nThen I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates.",
">\n\nThis is what upsets a lot of ppl. If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State. Now we hear the Fulton County DA can seek an indictment w/o waiting for the Judge.",
">\n\n\nIf Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State.\n\nEverybody likes to say that, but it's simply not true. They've had a grand jury examining evidence for months. The call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time of the call and proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended for Raffensberger to commit election fraud, when his words technically said otherwise. \nI imagine the House Committee report will be invaluable in demonstrating that Trump knew he was lying on that phone call. Rushing a prosecution before those hearings concluded would have been foolhardy.",
">\n\n\nThe call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time\n\nEvidence of Trump's mental state? Like wtf? There's no reason to suspect Trump wasn't of sound mind when he made that call, why would the prosecution need to gather evidence regarding his mental state? \nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call. Especially when paired with all the publicly avaliable Trump's unproven claims of stolen elections - as if the context of a incumbent struggling for a second term and abusing his presudential position to influence election officials wasn't enough already. On top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \nSo either we're gonna keep making excuses why an attempt to overturn American democracy has gone unpunished, or it's time to finally face the fact that Trump is above the law, and unless the American public actively demands justice, nothings going to be done, and Trump won't live to see the inside of a courthouse, much less a conviction.",
">\n\n\nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call.\n\nWhere did you go to law school? \nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent. It is the prosecution's burden of proof to demonstrate that Trump meant \"feloniously fabricate 11,780 votes that don't exist,\" when technically his words said \"my sources tell me that thousands of my votes were illegally discarded and thousands of Biden votes were illegally created, so I need you to investigate until you find enough of these fraudulent votes, at least 11,780, to show that the election was stolen from me.\" \nOf course we all know what he really meant. But the law is very literal, and the prosecution is required to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he meant something different from what he said. If anyone on that jury suspects that Trump really believed there was ballot-stuffing in Georgia, then the prosecution fails to prove criminal intent, and therefore he cannot be convicted of solicitation of election fraud. \nI wouldn't want to be the prosecutor who has to prove Donald J. Trump didn't believe a conspiracy theory that served his ego. \n\nOn top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \n\nAnd that is exactly what they have been doing. There have been grand juries examining evidence, gathering testimony and communications records from various election officials, lawmakers, people in Trump's orbit, etc., and, considering the timing of their recent conclusion, I presume they have also been examining the House Committee hearings, which make the strongest case so far that Trump knew he lost Georgia. I believe they are also looking at crimes beyond the phone call, related to fraud, intimidation, etc. \n\nwe're gonna keep making excuses \n\nNobody is making excuses to not prosecute Trump. I am explaining the legal steps they have been taking to prosecute him. \nEverything Georgia has been doing signals that they are serious about building a strong case to prosecute Trump and, probably, others in his orbit. You don't impanel grand juries and subpoena congressmen and presidential advisors just for funsies. \nNote that I'm not saying they definitely will indict, and I'm not saying \"the walls are closing in, it's really gonna happen this time.\" There is still a possibility that that the Grand Jury has concluded \"it's obvious Trump is guilty as fuck, but the evidence is ambiguous/circumstantial enough that it may not be possible to secure a conviction under the law as it is written. Given what we know, and what legal scholars have argued in various articles, I think it's more likely they will move forward with indictments. \nApparently under Georgia law, the next step is to impanel another Grand Jury with indictment powers. I don't know how long that process takes. Again, I'm not saying that Georgia will definitely indict: I don't have enough information to make this claim. But I am saying that they have done everything possible to get this case to third base with the bases loaded and a strong hitter at bat, so suggesting they are not serious about trying to hold Trump accountable is verifiably incorrect.",
">\n\n\nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent\n\nWhen did I say that prosecutors should not bother proving Trump had an intent to falsy election results? And why did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent? Maybe because you realized your original post made no sense?\n\nThere have been grand juries examining evidence\n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nwhy did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent?\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent. In this case, it is crucial for the prosecution to prove that Trump's state of mind, at the time of the phone call, was the felonious intention to willfully solicit a fabricated vote count. \n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.\n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. The House Committee has reached a conclusion that Trump could be charged with at least 4 crimes, and has released all their evidence. The Georgia grand jury has reached a conclusion that has not yet been released, but I think it's likely it has gathered enough to justify criminal state level indictments. \nI'm not going to say that indictments are definitely imminent, but the conclusions of these two major investigations suggest that we are significantly closer to, not farther from, the likelihood of seeing Trump in a courtroom."
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With so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering
The evidence is available because of the two years of evidence gathering.
A lot of that time involves the legal battles of procuring the evidence in the first place. For example the Georgia grand jury issued a subpoena to Senator Lindsey Graham in early July, and he fought it all the way up to the Supreme Court, which denied his appeal, and he finally had to testify in late November. So he was able to delay for almost half a year, and in the meantime Georgia prosecutors had to prepare and defend their subpoena in court every step of the way. Practically every bit of evidence takes extensive preparation to justify demanding it, then to negotiate and/or battle over how much they can legally demand, when and how the evidence will be provided, and under what limitations. Trump and his cronies are notorious for gumming up the process in appeals which delay every step by months or years.
My understanding is that the Georgia grand jury looked at far more than just Trump and a single phone call. They were looking at "a multi-state, coordinated plan by the Trump Campaign to influence the results of the November 2020 election in Georgia and elsewhere." The phone call was one piece of the puzzle, but there were other phone calls by Trump and his allies, false statements made by the Trump campaign in Georgia legislative meetings, several people signing fake elector certificates, attempts to pressure/intimidate election workers, breaches of election equipment, etc. That's a lot. It takes time. Two years is actually pretty fast for something of this magnitude.
And that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement.
So far. The DOJ case is the largest and most widespread investigation in DOJ history, with the largest number of defendants of any criminal investigation. This takes time.
it's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months
The DOJ was investigating during the first six months. In the first six months the DOJ identified, arrested, and charged hundreds of people who stormed the Capitol. In the meantime they were raiding Giuliani's house and confiscating phones and devices from him and other Trump lawyers and advisors. In the meantime they were preparing Seditious Conspiracy prosecutions for Proud Boys. In the meantime they were building up justification to raid Mar a Lago, and then fighting in court to get access to the documents they confiscated. In the meantime they were fighting in court to enforce subpoenas and to overcome executive privilege claims that were obstructing their investigation.
The DOJ has limited resources and only so many prosecutors to go around. Reportedly the DOJ has had to "borrow" state prosecutors just to keep up with the massive amount of work this investigation requires. So it's a good thing the House Committee conducted their own investigation, as it procured shitloads of evidence and testimony that the DOJ didn't have to devote resources to. And now that the DOJ has the House report, they have a new batch of leads to follow, which is evident from the new round of subpoenas Smith issued in the last few weeks.
Yet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.
If you think building a case of this magnitude should be quick, I don't know what to tell you. I've tried to give you a sense of the monumental amount of work involved, and the monumental amount of work that it takes to prepare and battle each and every step of the overall monumental work. The fact that it's only been two years and several of these investigations are already concluding and appear to be on the cusp of indictments, is actually pretty fast, when you consider the massive number of people and the wide range of alleged crimes involved.
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"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia",
">\n\nThen I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates.",
">\n\nThis is what upsets a lot of ppl. If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State. Now we hear the Fulton County DA can seek an indictment w/o waiting for the Judge.",
">\n\n\nIf Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State.\n\nEverybody likes to say that, but it's simply not true. They've had a grand jury examining evidence for months. The call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time of the call and proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended for Raffensberger to commit election fraud, when his words technically said otherwise. \nI imagine the House Committee report will be invaluable in demonstrating that Trump knew he was lying on that phone call. Rushing a prosecution before those hearings concluded would have been foolhardy.",
">\n\n\nThe call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time\n\nEvidence of Trump's mental state? Like wtf? There's no reason to suspect Trump wasn't of sound mind when he made that call, why would the prosecution need to gather evidence regarding his mental state? \nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call. Especially when paired with all the publicly avaliable Trump's unproven claims of stolen elections - as if the context of a incumbent struggling for a second term and abusing his presudential position to influence election officials wasn't enough already. On top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \nSo either we're gonna keep making excuses why an attempt to overturn American democracy has gone unpunished, or it's time to finally face the fact that Trump is above the law, and unless the American public actively demands justice, nothings going to be done, and Trump won't live to see the inside of a courthouse, much less a conviction.",
">\n\n\nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call.\n\nWhere did you go to law school? \nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent. It is the prosecution's burden of proof to demonstrate that Trump meant \"feloniously fabricate 11,780 votes that don't exist,\" when technically his words said \"my sources tell me that thousands of my votes were illegally discarded and thousands of Biden votes were illegally created, so I need you to investigate until you find enough of these fraudulent votes, at least 11,780, to show that the election was stolen from me.\" \nOf course we all know what he really meant. But the law is very literal, and the prosecution is required to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he meant something different from what he said. If anyone on that jury suspects that Trump really believed there was ballot-stuffing in Georgia, then the prosecution fails to prove criminal intent, and therefore he cannot be convicted of solicitation of election fraud. \nI wouldn't want to be the prosecutor who has to prove Donald J. Trump didn't believe a conspiracy theory that served his ego. \n\nOn top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \n\nAnd that is exactly what they have been doing. There have been grand juries examining evidence, gathering testimony and communications records from various election officials, lawmakers, people in Trump's orbit, etc., and, considering the timing of their recent conclusion, I presume they have also been examining the House Committee hearings, which make the strongest case so far that Trump knew he lost Georgia. I believe they are also looking at crimes beyond the phone call, related to fraud, intimidation, etc. \n\nwe're gonna keep making excuses \n\nNobody is making excuses to not prosecute Trump. I am explaining the legal steps they have been taking to prosecute him. \nEverything Georgia has been doing signals that they are serious about building a strong case to prosecute Trump and, probably, others in his orbit. You don't impanel grand juries and subpoena congressmen and presidential advisors just for funsies. \nNote that I'm not saying they definitely will indict, and I'm not saying \"the walls are closing in, it's really gonna happen this time.\" There is still a possibility that that the Grand Jury has concluded \"it's obvious Trump is guilty as fuck, but the evidence is ambiguous/circumstantial enough that it may not be possible to secure a conviction under the law as it is written. Given what we know, and what legal scholars have argued in various articles, I think it's more likely they will move forward with indictments. \nApparently under Georgia law, the next step is to impanel another Grand Jury with indictment powers. I don't know how long that process takes. Again, I'm not saying that Georgia will definitely indict: I don't have enough information to make this claim. But I am saying that they have done everything possible to get this case to third base with the bases loaded and a strong hitter at bat, so suggesting they are not serious about trying to hold Trump accountable is verifiably incorrect.",
">\n\n\nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent\n\nWhen did I say that prosecutors should not bother proving Trump had an intent to falsy election results? And why did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent? Maybe because you realized your original post made no sense?\n\nThere have been grand juries examining evidence\n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nwhy did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent?\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent. In this case, it is crucial for the prosecution to prove that Trump's state of mind, at the time of the phone call, was the felonious intention to willfully solicit a fabricated vote count. \n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.\n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. The House Committee has reached a conclusion that Trump could be charged with at least 4 crimes, and has released all their evidence. The Georgia grand jury has reached a conclusion that has not yet been released, but I think it's likely it has gathered enough to justify criminal state level indictments. \nI'm not going to say that indictments are definitely imminent, but the conclusions of these two major investigations suggest that we are significantly closer to, not farther from, the likelihood of seeing Trump in a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent.\n\nThat's my mistake then, you were using such a broad term, I had no idea you wers referring to actual intent. I really didn't expect anyone would quest Trump's intent considering its blatantly obvious from the contents of his phone call, especially in the context of all his public statements regarding unbased claims of stolen elections. \nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering without even an indicement, yet here we are. \n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \nI'll add that it's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months after Trump organized a coup to overthrow the US government. \nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\nIt took all this time and effort just to reach a conclusion that Trump 'could be charged'.\nThat would be so completely laughable if the continuation of democracy itself wasn't in question."
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"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia",
">\n\nThen I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates.",
">\n\nThis is what upsets a lot of ppl. If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State. Now we hear the Fulton County DA can seek an indictment w/o waiting for the Judge.",
">\n\n\nIf Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State.\n\nEverybody likes to say that, but it's simply not true. They've had a grand jury examining evidence for months. The call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time of the call and proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended for Raffensberger to commit election fraud, when his words technically said otherwise. \nI imagine the House Committee report will be invaluable in demonstrating that Trump knew he was lying on that phone call. Rushing a prosecution before those hearings concluded would have been foolhardy.",
">\n\n\nThe call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time\n\nEvidence of Trump's mental state? Like wtf? There's no reason to suspect Trump wasn't of sound mind when he made that call, why would the prosecution need to gather evidence regarding his mental state? \nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call. Especially when paired with all the publicly avaliable Trump's unproven claims of stolen elections - as if the context of a incumbent struggling for a second term and abusing his presudential position to influence election officials wasn't enough already. On top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \nSo either we're gonna keep making excuses why an attempt to overturn American democracy has gone unpunished, or it's time to finally face the fact that Trump is above the law, and unless the American public actively demands justice, nothings going to be done, and Trump won't live to see the inside of a courthouse, much less a conviction.",
">\n\n\nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call.\n\nWhere did you go to law school? \nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent. It is the prosecution's burden of proof to demonstrate that Trump meant \"feloniously fabricate 11,780 votes that don't exist,\" when technically his words said \"my sources tell me that thousands of my votes were illegally discarded and thousands of Biden votes were illegally created, so I need you to investigate until you find enough of these fraudulent votes, at least 11,780, to show that the election was stolen from me.\" \nOf course we all know what he really meant. But the law is very literal, and the prosecution is required to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he meant something different from what he said. If anyone on that jury suspects that Trump really believed there was ballot-stuffing in Georgia, then the prosecution fails to prove criminal intent, and therefore he cannot be convicted of solicitation of election fraud. \nI wouldn't want to be the prosecutor who has to prove Donald J. Trump didn't believe a conspiracy theory that served his ego. \n\nOn top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \n\nAnd that is exactly what they have been doing. There have been grand juries examining evidence, gathering testimony and communications records from various election officials, lawmakers, people in Trump's orbit, etc., and, considering the timing of their recent conclusion, I presume they have also been examining the House Committee hearings, which make the strongest case so far that Trump knew he lost Georgia. I believe they are also looking at crimes beyond the phone call, related to fraud, intimidation, etc. \n\nwe're gonna keep making excuses \n\nNobody is making excuses to not prosecute Trump. I am explaining the legal steps they have been taking to prosecute him. \nEverything Georgia has been doing signals that they are serious about building a strong case to prosecute Trump and, probably, others in his orbit. You don't impanel grand juries and subpoena congressmen and presidential advisors just for funsies. \nNote that I'm not saying they definitely will indict, and I'm not saying \"the walls are closing in, it's really gonna happen this time.\" There is still a possibility that that the Grand Jury has concluded \"it's obvious Trump is guilty as fuck, but the evidence is ambiguous/circumstantial enough that it may not be possible to secure a conviction under the law as it is written. Given what we know, and what legal scholars have argued in various articles, I think it's more likely they will move forward with indictments. \nApparently under Georgia law, the next step is to impanel another Grand Jury with indictment powers. I don't know how long that process takes. Again, I'm not saying that Georgia will definitely indict: I don't have enough information to make this claim. But I am saying that they have done everything possible to get this case to third base with the bases loaded and a strong hitter at bat, so suggesting they are not serious about trying to hold Trump accountable is verifiably incorrect.",
">\n\n\nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent\n\nWhen did I say that prosecutors should not bother proving Trump had an intent to falsy election results? And why did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent? Maybe because you realized your original post made no sense?\n\nThere have been grand juries examining evidence\n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nwhy did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent?\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent. In this case, it is crucial for the prosecution to prove that Trump's state of mind, at the time of the phone call, was the felonious intention to willfully solicit a fabricated vote count. \n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.\n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. The House Committee has reached a conclusion that Trump could be charged with at least 4 crimes, and has released all their evidence. The Georgia grand jury has reached a conclusion that has not yet been released, but I think it's likely it has gathered enough to justify criminal state level indictments. \nI'm not going to say that indictments are definitely imminent, but the conclusions of these two major investigations suggest that we are significantly closer to, not farther from, the likelihood of seeing Trump in a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent.\n\nThat's my mistake then, you were using such a broad term, I had no idea you wers referring to actual intent. I really didn't expect anyone would quest Trump's intent considering its blatantly obvious from the contents of his phone call, especially in the context of all his public statements regarding unbased claims of stolen elections. \nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering without even an indicement, yet here we are. \n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \nI'll add that it's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months after Trump organized a coup to overthrow the US government. \nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\nIt took all this time and effort just to reach a conclusion that Trump 'could be charged'.\nThat would be so completely laughable if the continuation of democracy itself wasn't in question.",
">\n\n\nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering \n\nThe evidence is available because of the two years of evidence gathering. \nA lot of that time involves the legal battles of procuring the evidence in the first place. For example the Georgia grand jury issued a subpoena to Senator Lindsey Graham in early July, and he fought it all the way up to the Supreme Court, which denied his appeal, and he finally had to testify in late November. So he was able to delay for almost half a year, and in the meantime Georgia prosecutors had to prepare and defend their subpoena in court every step of the way. Practically every bit of evidence takes extensive preparation to justify demanding it, then to negotiate and/or battle over how much they can legally demand, when and how the evidence will be provided, and under what limitations. Trump and his cronies are notorious for gumming up the process in appeals which delay every step by months or years. \nMy understanding is that the Georgia grand jury looked at far more than just Trump and a single phone call. They were looking at \"a multi-state, coordinated plan by the Trump Campaign to influence the results of the November 2020 election in Georgia and elsewhere.\" The phone call was one piece of the puzzle, but there were other phone calls by Trump and his allies, false statements made by the Trump campaign in Georgia legislative meetings, several people signing fake elector certificates, attempts to pressure/intimidate election workers, breaches of election equipment, etc. That's a lot. It takes time. Two years is actually pretty fast for something of this magnitude. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \n\nSo far. The DOJ case is the largest and most widespread investigation in DOJ history, with the largest number of defendants of any criminal investigation. This takes time. \n\nit's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months\n\nThe DOJ was investigating during the first six months. In the first six months the DOJ identified, arrested, and charged hundreds of people who stormed the Capitol. In the meantime they were raiding Giuliani's house and confiscating phones and devices from him and other Trump lawyers and advisors. In the meantime they were preparing Seditious Conspiracy prosecutions for Proud Boys. In the meantime they were building up justification to raid Mar a Lago, and then fighting in court to get access to the documents they confiscated. In the meantime they were fighting in court to enforce subpoenas and to overcome executive privilege claims that were obstructing their investigation. \nThe DOJ has limited resources and only so many prosecutors to go around. Reportedly the DOJ has had to \"borrow\" state prosecutors just to keep up with the massive amount of work this investigation requires. So it's a good thing the House Committee conducted their own investigation, as it procured shitloads of evidence and testimony that the DOJ didn't have to devote resources to. And now that the DOJ has the House report, they have a new batch of leads to follow, which is evident from the new round of subpoenas Smith issued in the last few weeks. \n\nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\n\nIf you think building a case of this magnitude should be quick, I don't know what to tell you. I've tried to give you a sense of the monumental amount of work involved, and the monumental amount of work that it takes to prepare and battle each and every step of the overall monumental work. The fact that it's only been two years and several of these investigations are already concluding and appear to be on the cusp of indictments, is actually pretty fast, when you consider the massive number of people and the wide range of alleged crimes involved."
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It'll be like smashing a champagne bottle against his thick skull.
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"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia",
">\n\nThen I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates.",
">\n\nThis is what upsets a lot of ppl. If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State. Now we hear the Fulton County DA can seek an indictment w/o waiting for the Judge.",
">\n\n\nIf Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State.\n\nEverybody likes to say that, but it's simply not true. They've had a grand jury examining evidence for months. The call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time of the call and proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended for Raffensberger to commit election fraud, when his words technically said otherwise. \nI imagine the House Committee report will be invaluable in demonstrating that Trump knew he was lying on that phone call. Rushing a prosecution before those hearings concluded would have been foolhardy.",
">\n\n\nThe call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time\n\nEvidence of Trump's mental state? Like wtf? There's no reason to suspect Trump wasn't of sound mind when he made that call, why would the prosecution need to gather evidence regarding his mental state? \nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call. Especially when paired with all the publicly avaliable Trump's unproven claims of stolen elections - as if the context of a incumbent struggling for a second term and abusing his presudential position to influence election officials wasn't enough already. On top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \nSo either we're gonna keep making excuses why an attempt to overturn American democracy has gone unpunished, or it's time to finally face the fact that Trump is above the law, and unless the American public actively demands justice, nothings going to be done, and Trump won't live to see the inside of a courthouse, much less a conviction.",
">\n\n\nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call.\n\nWhere did you go to law school? \nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent. It is the prosecution's burden of proof to demonstrate that Trump meant \"feloniously fabricate 11,780 votes that don't exist,\" when technically his words said \"my sources tell me that thousands of my votes were illegally discarded and thousands of Biden votes were illegally created, so I need you to investigate until you find enough of these fraudulent votes, at least 11,780, to show that the election was stolen from me.\" \nOf course we all know what he really meant. But the law is very literal, and the prosecution is required to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he meant something different from what he said. If anyone on that jury suspects that Trump really believed there was ballot-stuffing in Georgia, then the prosecution fails to prove criminal intent, and therefore he cannot be convicted of solicitation of election fraud. \nI wouldn't want to be the prosecutor who has to prove Donald J. Trump didn't believe a conspiracy theory that served his ego. \n\nOn top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \n\nAnd that is exactly what they have been doing. There have been grand juries examining evidence, gathering testimony and communications records from various election officials, lawmakers, people in Trump's orbit, etc., and, considering the timing of their recent conclusion, I presume they have also been examining the House Committee hearings, which make the strongest case so far that Trump knew he lost Georgia. I believe they are also looking at crimes beyond the phone call, related to fraud, intimidation, etc. \n\nwe're gonna keep making excuses \n\nNobody is making excuses to not prosecute Trump. I am explaining the legal steps they have been taking to prosecute him. \nEverything Georgia has been doing signals that they are serious about building a strong case to prosecute Trump and, probably, others in his orbit. You don't impanel grand juries and subpoena congressmen and presidential advisors just for funsies. \nNote that I'm not saying they definitely will indict, and I'm not saying \"the walls are closing in, it's really gonna happen this time.\" There is still a possibility that that the Grand Jury has concluded \"it's obvious Trump is guilty as fuck, but the evidence is ambiguous/circumstantial enough that it may not be possible to secure a conviction under the law as it is written. Given what we know, and what legal scholars have argued in various articles, I think it's more likely they will move forward with indictments. \nApparently under Georgia law, the next step is to impanel another Grand Jury with indictment powers. I don't know how long that process takes. Again, I'm not saying that Georgia will definitely indict: I don't have enough information to make this claim. But I am saying that they have done everything possible to get this case to third base with the bases loaded and a strong hitter at bat, so suggesting they are not serious about trying to hold Trump accountable is verifiably incorrect.",
">\n\n\nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent\n\nWhen did I say that prosecutors should not bother proving Trump had an intent to falsy election results? And why did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent? Maybe because you realized your original post made no sense?\n\nThere have been grand juries examining evidence\n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nwhy did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent?\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent. In this case, it is crucial for the prosecution to prove that Trump's state of mind, at the time of the phone call, was the felonious intention to willfully solicit a fabricated vote count. \n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.\n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. The House Committee has reached a conclusion that Trump could be charged with at least 4 crimes, and has released all their evidence. The Georgia grand jury has reached a conclusion that has not yet been released, but I think it's likely it has gathered enough to justify criminal state level indictments. \nI'm not going to say that indictments are definitely imminent, but the conclusions of these two major investigations suggest that we are significantly closer to, not farther from, the likelihood of seeing Trump in a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent.\n\nThat's my mistake then, you were using such a broad term, I had no idea you wers referring to actual intent. I really didn't expect anyone would quest Trump's intent considering its blatantly obvious from the contents of his phone call, especially in the context of all his public statements regarding unbased claims of stolen elections. \nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering without even an indicement, yet here we are. \n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \nI'll add that it's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months after Trump organized a coup to overthrow the US government. \nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\nIt took all this time and effort just to reach a conclusion that Trump 'could be charged'.\nThat would be so completely laughable if the continuation of democracy itself wasn't in question.",
">\n\n\nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering \n\nThe evidence is available because of the two years of evidence gathering. \nA lot of that time involves the legal battles of procuring the evidence in the first place. For example the Georgia grand jury issued a subpoena to Senator Lindsey Graham in early July, and he fought it all the way up to the Supreme Court, which denied his appeal, and he finally had to testify in late November. So he was able to delay for almost half a year, and in the meantime Georgia prosecutors had to prepare and defend their subpoena in court every step of the way. Practically every bit of evidence takes extensive preparation to justify demanding it, then to negotiate and/or battle over how much they can legally demand, when and how the evidence will be provided, and under what limitations. Trump and his cronies are notorious for gumming up the process in appeals which delay every step by months or years. \nMy understanding is that the Georgia grand jury looked at far more than just Trump and a single phone call. They were looking at \"a multi-state, coordinated plan by the Trump Campaign to influence the results of the November 2020 election in Georgia and elsewhere.\" The phone call was one piece of the puzzle, but there were other phone calls by Trump and his allies, false statements made by the Trump campaign in Georgia legislative meetings, several people signing fake elector certificates, attempts to pressure/intimidate election workers, breaches of election equipment, etc. That's a lot. It takes time. Two years is actually pretty fast for something of this magnitude. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \n\nSo far. The DOJ case is the largest and most widespread investigation in DOJ history, with the largest number of defendants of any criminal investigation. This takes time. \n\nit's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months\n\nThe DOJ was investigating during the first six months. In the first six months the DOJ identified, arrested, and charged hundreds of people who stormed the Capitol. In the meantime they were raiding Giuliani's house and confiscating phones and devices from him and other Trump lawyers and advisors. In the meantime they were preparing Seditious Conspiracy prosecutions for Proud Boys. In the meantime they were building up justification to raid Mar a Lago, and then fighting in court to get access to the documents they confiscated. In the meantime they were fighting in court to enforce subpoenas and to overcome executive privilege claims that were obstructing their investigation. \nThe DOJ has limited resources and only so many prosecutors to go around. Reportedly the DOJ has had to \"borrow\" state prosecutors just to keep up with the massive amount of work this investigation requires. So it's a good thing the House Committee conducted their own investigation, as it procured shitloads of evidence and testimony that the DOJ didn't have to devote resources to. And now that the DOJ has the House report, they have a new batch of leads to follow, which is evident from the new round of subpoenas Smith issued in the last few weeks. \n\nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\n\nIf you think building a case of this magnitude should be quick, I don't know what to tell you. I've tried to give you a sense of the monumental amount of work involved, and the monumental amount of work that it takes to prepare and battle each and every step of the overall monumental work. The fact that it's only been two years and several of these investigations are already concluding and appear to be on the cusp of indictments, is actually pretty fast, when you consider the massive number of people and the wide range of alleged crimes involved.",
">\n\nWho knows but lets go already!!"
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"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia",
">\n\nThen I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates.",
">\n\nThis is what upsets a lot of ppl. If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State. Now we hear the Fulton County DA can seek an indictment w/o waiting for the Judge.",
">\n\n\nIf Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State.\n\nEverybody likes to say that, but it's simply not true. They've had a grand jury examining evidence for months. The call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time of the call and proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended for Raffensberger to commit election fraud, when his words technically said otherwise. \nI imagine the House Committee report will be invaluable in demonstrating that Trump knew he was lying on that phone call. Rushing a prosecution before those hearings concluded would have been foolhardy.",
">\n\n\nThe call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time\n\nEvidence of Trump's mental state? Like wtf? There's no reason to suspect Trump wasn't of sound mind when he made that call, why would the prosecution need to gather evidence regarding his mental state? \nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call. Especially when paired with all the publicly avaliable Trump's unproven claims of stolen elections - as if the context of a incumbent struggling for a second term and abusing his presudential position to influence election officials wasn't enough already. On top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \nSo either we're gonna keep making excuses why an attempt to overturn American democracy has gone unpunished, or it's time to finally face the fact that Trump is above the law, and unless the American public actively demands justice, nothings going to be done, and Trump won't live to see the inside of a courthouse, much less a conviction.",
">\n\n\nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call.\n\nWhere did you go to law school? \nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent. It is the prosecution's burden of proof to demonstrate that Trump meant \"feloniously fabricate 11,780 votes that don't exist,\" when technically his words said \"my sources tell me that thousands of my votes were illegally discarded and thousands of Biden votes were illegally created, so I need you to investigate until you find enough of these fraudulent votes, at least 11,780, to show that the election was stolen from me.\" \nOf course we all know what he really meant. But the law is very literal, and the prosecution is required to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he meant something different from what he said. If anyone on that jury suspects that Trump really believed there was ballot-stuffing in Georgia, then the prosecution fails to prove criminal intent, and therefore he cannot be convicted of solicitation of election fraud. \nI wouldn't want to be the prosecutor who has to prove Donald J. Trump didn't believe a conspiracy theory that served his ego. \n\nOn top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \n\nAnd that is exactly what they have been doing. There have been grand juries examining evidence, gathering testimony and communications records from various election officials, lawmakers, people in Trump's orbit, etc., and, considering the timing of their recent conclusion, I presume they have also been examining the House Committee hearings, which make the strongest case so far that Trump knew he lost Georgia. I believe they are also looking at crimes beyond the phone call, related to fraud, intimidation, etc. \n\nwe're gonna keep making excuses \n\nNobody is making excuses to not prosecute Trump. I am explaining the legal steps they have been taking to prosecute him. \nEverything Georgia has been doing signals that they are serious about building a strong case to prosecute Trump and, probably, others in his orbit. You don't impanel grand juries and subpoena congressmen and presidential advisors just for funsies. \nNote that I'm not saying they definitely will indict, and I'm not saying \"the walls are closing in, it's really gonna happen this time.\" There is still a possibility that that the Grand Jury has concluded \"it's obvious Trump is guilty as fuck, but the evidence is ambiguous/circumstantial enough that it may not be possible to secure a conviction under the law as it is written. Given what we know, and what legal scholars have argued in various articles, I think it's more likely they will move forward with indictments. \nApparently under Georgia law, the next step is to impanel another Grand Jury with indictment powers. I don't know how long that process takes. Again, I'm not saying that Georgia will definitely indict: I don't have enough information to make this claim. But I am saying that they have done everything possible to get this case to third base with the bases loaded and a strong hitter at bat, so suggesting they are not serious about trying to hold Trump accountable is verifiably incorrect.",
">\n\n\nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent\n\nWhen did I say that prosecutors should not bother proving Trump had an intent to falsy election results? And why did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent? Maybe because you realized your original post made no sense?\n\nThere have been grand juries examining evidence\n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nwhy did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent?\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent. In this case, it is crucial for the prosecution to prove that Trump's state of mind, at the time of the phone call, was the felonious intention to willfully solicit a fabricated vote count. \n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.\n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. The House Committee has reached a conclusion that Trump could be charged with at least 4 crimes, and has released all their evidence. The Georgia grand jury has reached a conclusion that has not yet been released, but I think it's likely it has gathered enough to justify criminal state level indictments. \nI'm not going to say that indictments are definitely imminent, but the conclusions of these two major investigations suggest that we are significantly closer to, not farther from, the likelihood of seeing Trump in a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent.\n\nThat's my mistake then, you were using such a broad term, I had no idea you wers referring to actual intent. I really didn't expect anyone would quest Trump's intent considering its blatantly obvious from the contents of his phone call, especially in the context of all his public statements regarding unbased claims of stolen elections. \nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering without even an indicement, yet here we are. \n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \nI'll add that it's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months after Trump organized a coup to overthrow the US government. \nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\nIt took all this time and effort just to reach a conclusion that Trump 'could be charged'.\nThat would be so completely laughable if the continuation of democracy itself wasn't in question.",
">\n\n\nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering \n\nThe evidence is available because of the two years of evidence gathering. \nA lot of that time involves the legal battles of procuring the evidence in the first place. For example the Georgia grand jury issued a subpoena to Senator Lindsey Graham in early July, and he fought it all the way up to the Supreme Court, which denied his appeal, and he finally had to testify in late November. So he was able to delay for almost half a year, and in the meantime Georgia prosecutors had to prepare and defend their subpoena in court every step of the way. Practically every bit of evidence takes extensive preparation to justify demanding it, then to negotiate and/or battle over how much they can legally demand, when and how the evidence will be provided, and under what limitations. Trump and his cronies are notorious for gumming up the process in appeals which delay every step by months or years. \nMy understanding is that the Georgia grand jury looked at far more than just Trump and a single phone call. They were looking at \"a multi-state, coordinated plan by the Trump Campaign to influence the results of the November 2020 election in Georgia and elsewhere.\" The phone call was one piece of the puzzle, but there were other phone calls by Trump and his allies, false statements made by the Trump campaign in Georgia legislative meetings, several people signing fake elector certificates, attempts to pressure/intimidate election workers, breaches of election equipment, etc. That's a lot. It takes time. Two years is actually pretty fast for something of this magnitude. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \n\nSo far. The DOJ case is the largest and most widespread investigation in DOJ history, with the largest number of defendants of any criminal investigation. This takes time. \n\nit's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months\n\nThe DOJ was investigating during the first six months. In the first six months the DOJ identified, arrested, and charged hundreds of people who stormed the Capitol. In the meantime they were raiding Giuliani's house and confiscating phones and devices from him and other Trump lawyers and advisors. In the meantime they were preparing Seditious Conspiracy prosecutions for Proud Boys. In the meantime they were building up justification to raid Mar a Lago, and then fighting in court to get access to the documents they confiscated. In the meantime they were fighting in court to enforce subpoenas and to overcome executive privilege claims that were obstructing their investigation. \nThe DOJ has limited resources and only so many prosecutors to go around. Reportedly the DOJ has had to \"borrow\" state prosecutors just to keep up with the massive amount of work this investigation requires. So it's a good thing the House Committee conducted their own investigation, as it procured shitloads of evidence and testimony that the DOJ didn't have to devote resources to. And now that the DOJ has the House report, they have a new batch of leads to follow, which is evident from the new round of subpoenas Smith issued in the last few weeks. \n\nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\n\nIf you think building a case of this magnitude should be quick, I don't know what to tell you. I've tried to give you a sense of the monumental amount of work involved, and the monumental amount of work that it takes to prepare and battle each and every step of the overall monumental work. The fact that it's only been two years and several of these investigations are already concluding and appear to be on the cusp of indictments, is actually pretty fast, when you consider the massive number of people and the wide range of alleged crimes involved.",
">\n\nWho knows but lets go already!!",
">\n\nIt'll be like smashing a champagne bottle against his thick skull."
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She needs to hire heavy security if she does, given how unhinged his fanclub is.
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"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia",
">\n\nThen I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates.",
">\n\nThis is what upsets a lot of ppl. If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State. Now we hear the Fulton County DA can seek an indictment w/o waiting for the Judge.",
">\n\n\nIf Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State.\n\nEverybody likes to say that, but it's simply not true. They've had a grand jury examining evidence for months. The call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time of the call and proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended for Raffensberger to commit election fraud, when his words technically said otherwise. \nI imagine the House Committee report will be invaluable in demonstrating that Trump knew he was lying on that phone call. Rushing a prosecution before those hearings concluded would have been foolhardy.",
">\n\n\nThe call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time\n\nEvidence of Trump's mental state? Like wtf? There's no reason to suspect Trump wasn't of sound mind when he made that call, why would the prosecution need to gather evidence regarding his mental state? \nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call. Especially when paired with all the publicly avaliable Trump's unproven claims of stolen elections - as if the context of a incumbent struggling for a second term and abusing his presudential position to influence election officials wasn't enough already. On top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \nSo either we're gonna keep making excuses why an attempt to overturn American democracy has gone unpunished, or it's time to finally face the fact that Trump is above the law, and unless the American public actively demands justice, nothings going to be done, and Trump won't live to see the inside of a courthouse, much less a conviction.",
">\n\n\nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call.\n\nWhere did you go to law school? \nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent. It is the prosecution's burden of proof to demonstrate that Trump meant \"feloniously fabricate 11,780 votes that don't exist,\" when technically his words said \"my sources tell me that thousands of my votes were illegally discarded and thousands of Biden votes were illegally created, so I need you to investigate until you find enough of these fraudulent votes, at least 11,780, to show that the election was stolen from me.\" \nOf course we all know what he really meant. But the law is very literal, and the prosecution is required to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he meant something different from what he said. If anyone on that jury suspects that Trump really believed there was ballot-stuffing in Georgia, then the prosecution fails to prove criminal intent, and therefore he cannot be convicted of solicitation of election fraud. \nI wouldn't want to be the prosecutor who has to prove Donald J. Trump didn't believe a conspiracy theory that served his ego. \n\nOn top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \n\nAnd that is exactly what they have been doing. There have been grand juries examining evidence, gathering testimony and communications records from various election officials, lawmakers, people in Trump's orbit, etc., and, considering the timing of their recent conclusion, I presume they have also been examining the House Committee hearings, which make the strongest case so far that Trump knew he lost Georgia. I believe they are also looking at crimes beyond the phone call, related to fraud, intimidation, etc. \n\nwe're gonna keep making excuses \n\nNobody is making excuses to not prosecute Trump. I am explaining the legal steps they have been taking to prosecute him. \nEverything Georgia has been doing signals that they are serious about building a strong case to prosecute Trump and, probably, others in his orbit. You don't impanel grand juries and subpoena congressmen and presidential advisors just for funsies. \nNote that I'm not saying they definitely will indict, and I'm not saying \"the walls are closing in, it's really gonna happen this time.\" There is still a possibility that that the Grand Jury has concluded \"it's obvious Trump is guilty as fuck, but the evidence is ambiguous/circumstantial enough that it may not be possible to secure a conviction under the law as it is written. Given what we know, and what legal scholars have argued in various articles, I think it's more likely they will move forward with indictments. \nApparently under Georgia law, the next step is to impanel another Grand Jury with indictment powers. I don't know how long that process takes. Again, I'm not saying that Georgia will definitely indict: I don't have enough information to make this claim. But I am saying that they have done everything possible to get this case to third base with the bases loaded and a strong hitter at bat, so suggesting they are not serious about trying to hold Trump accountable is verifiably incorrect.",
">\n\n\nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent\n\nWhen did I say that prosecutors should not bother proving Trump had an intent to falsy election results? And why did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent? Maybe because you realized your original post made no sense?\n\nThere have been grand juries examining evidence\n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nwhy did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent?\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent. In this case, it is crucial for the prosecution to prove that Trump's state of mind, at the time of the phone call, was the felonious intention to willfully solicit a fabricated vote count. \n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.\n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. The House Committee has reached a conclusion that Trump could be charged with at least 4 crimes, and has released all their evidence. The Georgia grand jury has reached a conclusion that has not yet been released, but I think it's likely it has gathered enough to justify criminal state level indictments. \nI'm not going to say that indictments are definitely imminent, but the conclusions of these two major investigations suggest that we are significantly closer to, not farther from, the likelihood of seeing Trump in a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent.\n\nThat's my mistake then, you were using such a broad term, I had no idea you wers referring to actual intent. I really didn't expect anyone would quest Trump's intent considering its blatantly obvious from the contents of his phone call, especially in the context of all his public statements regarding unbased claims of stolen elections. \nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering without even an indicement, yet here we are. \n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \nI'll add that it's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months after Trump organized a coup to overthrow the US government. \nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\nIt took all this time and effort just to reach a conclusion that Trump 'could be charged'.\nThat would be so completely laughable if the continuation of democracy itself wasn't in question.",
">\n\n\nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering \n\nThe evidence is available because of the two years of evidence gathering. \nA lot of that time involves the legal battles of procuring the evidence in the first place. For example the Georgia grand jury issued a subpoena to Senator Lindsey Graham in early July, and he fought it all the way up to the Supreme Court, which denied his appeal, and he finally had to testify in late November. So he was able to delay for almost half a year, and in the meantime Georgia prosecutors had to prepare and defend their subpoena in court every step of the way. Practically every bit of evidence takes extensive preparation to justify demanding it, then to negotiate and/or battle over how much they can legally demand, when and how the evidence will be provided, and under what limitations. Trump and his cronies are notorious for gumming up the process in appeals which delay every step by months or years. \nMy understanding is that the Georgia grand jury looked at far more than just Trump and a single phone call. They were looking at \"a multi-state, coordinated plan by the Trump Campaign to influence the results of the November 2020 election in Georgia and elsewhere.\" The phone call was one piece of the puzzle, but there were other phone calls by Trump and his allies, false statements made by the Trump campaign in Georgia legislative meetings, several people signing fake elector certificates, attempts to pressure/intimidate election workers, breaches of election equipment, etc. That's a lot. It takes time. Two years is actually pretty fast for something of this magnitude. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \n\nSo far. The DOJ case is the largest and most widespread investigation in DOJ history, with the largest number of defendants of any criminal investigation. This takes time. \n\nit's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months\n\nThe DOJ was investigating during the first six months. In the first six months the DOJ identified, arrested, and charged hundreds of people who stormed the Capitol. In the meantime they were raiding Giuliani's house and confiscating phones and devices from him and other Trump lawyers and advisors. In the meantime they were preparing Seditious Conspiracy prosecutions for Proud Boys. In the meantime they were building up justification to raid Mar a Lago, and then fighting in court to get access to the documents they confiscated. In the meantime they were fighting in court to enforce subpoenas and to overcome executive privilege claims that were obstructing their investigation. \nThe DOJ has limited resources and only so many prosecutors to go around. Reportedly the DOJ has had to \"borrow\" state prosecutors just to keep up with the massive amount of work this investigation requires. So it's a good thing the House Committee conducted their own investigation, as it procured shitloads of evidence and testimony that the DOJ didn't have to devote resources to. And now that the DOJ has the House report, they have a new batch of leads to follow, which is evident from the new round of subpoenas Smith issued in the last few weeks. \n\nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\n\nIf you think building a case of this magnitude should be quick, I don't know what to tell you. I've tried to give you a sense of the monumental amount of work involved, and the monumental amount of work that it takes to prepare and battle each and every step of the overall monumental work. The fact that it's only been two years and several of these investigations are already concluding and appear to be on the cusp of indictments, is actually pretty fast, when you consider the massive number of people and the wide range of alleged crimes involved.",
">\n\nWho knows but lets go already!!",
">\n\nIt'll be like smashing a champagne bottle against his thick skull.",
">\n\nSatisfyingly squelchy?"
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That’s what worries me. And not just her— basically anyone who goes after or even speaks out against Trump. I’d be scared to sleep at night or go pretty much anywhere…
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"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia",
">\n\nThen I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates.",
">\n\nThis is what upsets a lot of ppl. If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State. Now we hear the Fulton County DA can seek an indictment w/o waiting for the Judge.",
">\n\n\nIf Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State.\n\nEverybody likes to say that, but it's simply not true. They've had a grand jury examining evidence for months. The call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time of the call and proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended for Raffensberger to commit election fraud, when his words technically said otherwise. \nI imagine the House Committee report will be invaluable in demonstrating that Trump knew he was lying on that phone call. Rushing a prosecution before those hearings concluded would have been foolhardy.",
">\n\n\nThe call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time\n\nEvidence of Trump's mental state? Like wtf? There's no reason to suspect Trump wasn't of sound mind when he made that call, why would the prosecution need to gather evidence regarding his mental state? \nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call. Especially when paired with all the publicly avaliable Trump's unproven claims of stolen elections - as if the context of a incumbent struggling for a second term and abusing his presudential position to influence election officials wasn't enough already. On top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \nSo either we're gonna keep making excuses why an attempt to overturn American democracy has gone unpunished, or it's time to finally face the fact that Trump is above the law, and unless the American public actively demands justice, nothings going to be done, and Trump won't live to see the inside of a courthouse, much less a conviction.",
">\n\n\nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call.\n\nWhere did you go to law school? \nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent. It is the prosecution's burden of proof to demonstrate that Trump meant \"feloniously fabricate 11,780 votes that don't exist,\" when technically his words said \"my sources tell me that thousands of my votes were illegally discarded and thousands of Biden votes were illegally created, so I need you to investigate until you find enough of these fraudulent votes, at least 11,780, to show that the election was stolen from me.\" \nOf course we all know what he really meant. But the law is very literal, and the prosecution is required to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he meant something different from what he said. If anyone on that jury suspects that Trump really believed there was ballot-stuffing in Georgia, then the prosecution fails to prove criminal intent, and therefore he cannot be convicted of solicitation of election fraud. \nI wouldn't want to be the prosecutor who has to prove Donald J. Trump didn't believe a conspiracy theory that served his ego. \n\nOn top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \n\nAnd that is exactly what they have been doing. There have been grand juries examining evidence, gathering testimony and communications records from various election officials, lawmakers, people in Trump's orbit, etc., and, considering the timing of their recent conclusion, I presume they have also been examining the House Committee hearings, which make the strongest case so far that Trump knew he lost Georgia. I believe they are also looking at crimes beyond the phone call, related to fraud, intimidation, etc. \n\nwe're gonna keep making excuses \n\nNobody is making excuses to not prosecute Trump. I am explaining the legal steps they have been taking to prosecute him. \nEverything Georgia has been doing signals that they are serious about building a strong case to prosecute Trump and, probably, others in his orbit. You don't impanel grand juries and subpoena congressmen and presidential advisors just for funsies. \nNote that I'm not saying they definitely will indict, and I'm not saying \"the walls are closing in, it's really gonna happen this time.\" There is still a possibility that that the Grand Jury has concluded \"it's obvious Trump is guilty as fuck, but the evidence is ambiguous/circumstantial enough that it may not be possible to secure a conviction under the law as it is written. Given what we know, and what legal scholars have argued in various articles, I think it's more likely they will move forward with indictments. \nApparently under Georgia law, the next step is to impanel another Grand Jury with indictment powers. I don't know how long that process takes. Again, I'm not saying that Georgia will definitely indict: I don't have enough information to make this claim. But I am saying that they have done everything possible to get this case to third base with the bases loaded and a strong hitter at bat, so suggesting they are not serious about trying to hold Trump accountable is verifiably incorrect.",
">\n\n\nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent\n\nWhen did I say that prosecutors should not bother proving Trump had an intent to falsy election results? And why did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent? Maybe because you realized your original post made no sense?\n\nThere have been grand juries examining evidence\n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nwhy did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent?\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent. In this case, it is crucial for the prosecution to prove that Trump's state of mind, at the time of the phone call, was the felonious intention to willfully solicit a fabricated vote count. \n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.\n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. The House Committee has reached a conclusion that Trump could be charged with at least 4 crimes, and has released all their evidence. The Georgia grand jury has reached a conclusion that has not yet been released, but I think it's likely it has gathered enough to justify criminal state level indictments. \nI'm not going to say that indictments are definitely imminent, but the conclusions of these two major investigations suggest that we are significantly closer to, not farther from, the likelihood of seeing Trump in a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent.\n\nThat's my mistake then, you were using such a broad term, I had no idea you wers referring to actual intent. I really didn't expect anyone would quest Trump's intent considering its blatantly obvious from the contents of his phone call, especially in the context of all his public statements regarding unbased claims of stolen elections. \nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering without even an indicement, yet here we are. \n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \nI'll add that it's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months after Trump organized a coup to overthrow the US government. \nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\nIt took all this time and effort just to reach a conclusion that Trump 'could be charged'.\nThat would be so completely laughable if the continuation of democracy itself wasn't in question.",
">\n\n\nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering \n\nThe evidence is available because of the two years of evidence gathering. \nA lot of that time involves the legal battles of procuring the evidence in the first place. For example the Georgia grand jury issued a subpoena to Senator Lindsey Graham in early July, and he fought it all the way up to the Supreme Court, which denied his appeal, and he finally had to testify in late November. So he was able to delay for almost half a year, and in the meantime Georgia prosecutors had to prepare and defend their subpoena in court every step of the way. Practically every bit of evidence takes extensive preparation to justify demanding it, then to negotiate and/or battle over how much they can legally demand, when and how the evidence will be provided, and under what limitations. Trump and his cronies are notorious for gumming up the process in appeals which delay every step by months or years. \nMy understanding is that the Georgia grand jury looked at far more than just Trump and a single phone call. They were looking at \"a multi-state, coordinated plan by the Trump Campaign to influence the results of the November 2020 election in Georgia and elsewhere.\" The phone call was one piece of the puzzle, but there were other phone calls by Trump and his allies, false statements made by the Trump campaign in Georgia legislative meetings, several people signing fake elector certificates, attempts to pressure/intimidate election workers, breaches of election equipment, etc. That's a lot. It takes time. Two years is actually pretty fast for something of this magnitude. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \n\nSo far. The DOJ case is the largest and most widespread investigation in DOJ history, with the largest number of defendants of any criminal investigation. This takes time. \n\nit's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months\n\nThe DOJ was investigating during the first six months. In the first six months the DOJ identified, arrested, and charged hundreds of people who stormed the Capitol. In the meantime they were raiding Giuliani's house and confiscating phones and devices from him and other Trump lawyers and advisors. In the meantime they were preparing Seditious Conspiracy prosecutions for Proud Boys. In the meantime they were building up justification to raid Mar a Lago, and then fighting in court to get access to the documents they confiscated. In the meantime they were fighting in court to enforce subpoenas and to overcome executive privilege claims that were obstructing their investigation. \nThe DOJ has limited resources and only so many prosecutors to go around. Reportedly the DOJ has had to \"borrow\" state prosecutors just to keep up with the massive amount of work this investigation requires. So it's a good thing the House Committee conducted their own investigation, as it procured shitloads of evidence and testimony that the DOJ didn't have to devote resources to. And now that the DOJ has the House report, they have a new batch of leads to follow, which is evident from the new round of subpoenas Smith issued in the last few weeks. \n\nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\n\nIf you think building a case of this magnitude should be quick, I don't know what to tell you. I've tried to give you a sense of the monumental amount of work involved, and the monumental amount of work that it takes to prepare and battle each and every step of the overall monumental work. The fact that it's only been two years and several of these investigations are already concluding and appear to be on the cusp of indictments, is actually pretty fast, when you consider the massive number of people and the wide range of alleged crimes involved.",
">\n\nWho knows but lets go already!!",
">\n\nIt'll be like smashing a champagne bottle against his thick skull.",
">\n\nSatisfyingly squelchy?",
">\n\nShe needs to hire heavy security if she does, given how unhinged his fanclub is."
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Treat them as terrorists. Instant death.
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"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia",
">\n\nThen I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates.",
">\n\nThis is what upsets a lot of ppl. If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State. Now we hear the Fulton County DA can seek an indictment w/o waiting for the Judge.",
">\n\n\nIf Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State.\n\nEverybody likes to say that, but it's simply not true. They've had a grand jury examining evidence for months. The call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time of the call and proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended for Raffensberger to commit election fraud, when his words technically said otherwise. \nI imagine the House Committee report will be invaluable in demonstrating that Trump knew he was lying on that phone call. Rushing a prosecution before those hearings concluded would have been foolhardy.",
">\n\n\nThe call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time\n\nEvidence of Trump's mental state? Like wtf? There's no reason to suspect Trump wasn't of sound mind when he made that call, why would the prosecution need to gather evidence regarding his mental state? \nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call. Especially when paired with all the publicly avaliable Trump's unproven claims of stolen elections - as if the context of a incumbent struggling for a second term and abusing his presudential position to influence election officials wasn't enough already. On top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \nSo either we're gonna keep making excuses why an attempt to overturn American democracy has gone unpunished, or it's time to finally face the fact that Trump is above the law, and unless the American public actively demands justice, nothings going to be done, and Trump won't live to see the inside of a courthouse, much less a conviction.",
">\n\n\nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call.\n\nWhere did you go to law school? \nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent. It is the prosecution's burden of proof to demonstrate that Trump meant \"feloniously fabricate 11,780 votes that don't exist,\" when technically his words said \"my sources tell me that thousands of my votes were illegally discarded and thousands of Biden votes were illegally created, so I need you to investigate until you find enough of these fraudulent votes, at least 11,780, to show that the election was stolen from me.\" \nOf course we all know what he really meant. But the law is very literal, and the prosecution is required to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he meant something different from what he said. If anyone on that jury suspects that Trump really believed there was ballot-stuffing in Georgia, then the prosecution fails to prove criminal intent, and therefore he cannot be convicted of solicitation of election fraud. \nI wouldn't want to be the prosecutor who has to prove Donald J. Trump didn't believe a conspiracy theory that served his ego. \n\nOn top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \n\nAnd that is exactly what they have been doing. There have been grand juries examining evidence, gathering testimony and communications records from various election officials, lawmakers, people in Trump's orbit, etc., and, considering the timing of their recent conclusion, I presume they have also been examining the House Committee hearings, which make the strongest case so far that Trump knew he lost Georgia. I believe they are also looking at crimes beyond the phone call, related to fraud, intimidation, etc. \n\nwe're gonna keep making excuses \n\nNobody is making excuses to not prosecute Trump. I am explaining the legal steps they have been taking to prosecute him. \nEverything Georgia has been doing signals that they are serious about building a strong case to prosecute Trump and, probably, others in his orbit. You don't impanel grand juries and subpoena congressmen and presidential advisors just for funsies. \nNote that I'm not saying they definitely will indict, and I'm not saying \"the walls are closing in, it's really gonna happen this time.\" There is still a possibility that that the Grand Jury has concluded \"it's obvious Trump is guilty as fuck, but the evidence is ambiguous/circumstantial enough that it may not be possible to secure a conviction under the law as it is written. Given what we know, and what legal scholars have argued in various articles, I think it's more likely they will move forward with indictments. \nApparently under Georgia law, the next step is to impanel another Grand Jury with indictment powers. I don't know how long that process takes. Again, I'm not saying that Georgia will definitely indict: I don't have enough information to make this claim. But I am saying that they have done everything possible to get this case to third base with the bases loaded and a strong hitter at bat, so suggesting they are not serious about trying to hold Trump accountable is verifiably incorrect.",
">\n\n\nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent\n\nWhen did I say that prosecutors should not bother proving Trump had an intent to falsy election results? And why did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent? Maybe because you realized your original post made no sense?\n\nThere have been grand juries examining evidence\n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nwhy did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent?\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent. In this case, it is crucial for the prosecution to prove that Trump's state of mind, at the time of the phone call, was the felonious intention to willfully solicit a fabricated vote count. \n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.\n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. The House Committee has reached a conclusion that Trump could be charged with at least 4 crimes, and has released all their evidence. The Georgia grand jury has reached a conclusion that has not yet been released, but I think it's likely it has gathered enough to justify criminal state level indictments. \nI'm not going to say that indictments are definitely imminent, but the conclusions of these two major investigations suggest that we are significantly closer to, not farther from, the likelihood of seeing Trump in a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent.\n\nThat's my mistake then, you were using such a broad term, I had no idea you wers referring to actual intent. I really didn't expect anyone would quest Trump's intent considering its blatantly obvious from the contents of his phone call, especially in the context of all his public statements regarding unbased claims of stolen elections. \nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering without even an indicement, yet here we are. \n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \nI'll add that it's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months after Trump organized a coup to overthrow the US government. \nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\nIt took all this time and effort just to reach a conclusion that Trump 'could be charged'.\nThat would be so completely laughable if the continuation of democracy itself wasn't in question.",
">\n\n\nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering \n\nThe evidence is available because of the two years of evidence gathering. \nA lot of that time involves the legal battles of procuring the evidence in the first place. For example the Georgia grand jury issued a subpoena to Senator Lindsey Graham in early July, and he fought it all the way up to the Supreme Court, which denied his appeal, and he finally had to testify in late November. So he was able to delay for almost half a year, and in the meantime Georgia prosecutors had to prepare and defend their subpoena in court every step of the way. Practically every bit of evidence takes extensive preparation to justify demanding it, then to negotiate and/or battle over how much they can legally demand, when and how the evidence will be provided, and under what limitations. Trump and his cronies are notorious for gumming up the process in appeals which delay every step by months or years. \nMy understanding is that the Georgia grand jury looked at far more than just Trump and a single phone call. They were looking at \"a multi-state, coordinated plan by the Trump Campaign to influence the results of the November 2020 election in Georgia and elsewhere.\" The phone call was one piece of the puzzle, but there were other phone calls by Trump and his allies, false statements made by the Trump campaign in Georgia legislative meetings, several people signing fake elector certificates, attempts to pressure/intimidate election workers, breaches of election equipment, etc. That's a lot. It takes time. Two years is actually pretty fast for something of this magnitude. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \n\nSo far. The DOJ case is the largest and most widespread investigation in DOJ history, with the largest number of defendants of any criminal investigation. This takes time. \n\nit's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months\n\nThe DOJ was investigating during the first six months. In the first six months the DOJ identified, arrested, and charged hundreds of people who stormed the Capitol. In the meantime they were raiding Giuliani's house and confiscating phones and devices from him and other Trump lawyers and advisors. In the meantime they were preparing Seditious Conspiracy prosecutions for Proud Boys. In the meantime they were building up justification to raid Mar a Lago, and then fighting in court to get access to the documents they confiscated. In the meantime they were fighting in court to enforce subpoenas and to overcome executive privilege claims that were obstructing their investigation. \nThe DOJ has limited resources and only so many prosecutors to go around. Reportedly the DOJ has had to \"borrow\" state prosecutors just to keep up with the massive amount of work this investigation requires. So it's a good thing the House Committee conducted their own investigation, as it procured shitloads of evidence and testimony that the DOJ didn't have to devote resources to. And now that the DOJ has the House report, they have a new batch of leads to follow, which is evident from the new round of subpoenas Smith issued in the last few weeks. \n\nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\n\nIf you think building a case of this magnitude should be quick, I don't know what to tell you. I've tried to give you a sense of the monumental amount of work involved, and the monumental amount of work that it takes to prepare and battle each and every step of the overall monumental work. The fact that it's only been two years and several of these investigations are already concluding and appear to be on the cusp of indictments, is actually pretty fast, when you consider the massive number of people and the wide range of alleged crimes involved.",
">\n\nWho knows but lets go already!!",
">\n\nIt'll be like smashing a champagne bottle against his thick skull.",
">\n\nSatisfyingly squelchy?",
">\n\nShe needs to hire heavy security if she does, given how unhinged his fanclub is.",
">\n\nThat’s what worries me. And not just her— basically anyone who goes after or even speaks out against Trump. I’d be scared to sleep at night or go pretty much anywhere…"
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When it comes to Trump, the word indictment has lost all meaning. Impeachment, criminal, fraud, President…All lost their meaning.
Pansy ass America is what we are, letting these criminals run unchecked
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"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia",
">\n\nThen I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates.",
">\n\nThis is what upsets a lot of ppl. If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State. Now we hear the Fulton County DA can seek an indictment w/o waiting for the Judge.",
">\n\n\nIf Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State.\n\nEverybody likes to say that, but it's simply not true. They've had a grand jury examining evidence for months. The call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time of the call and proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended for Raffensberger to commit election fraud, when his words technically said otherwise. \nI imagine the House Committee report will be invaluable in demonstrating that Trump knew he was lying on that phone call. Rushing a prosecution before those hearings concluded would have been foolhardy.",
">\n\n\nThe call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time\n\nEvidence of Trump's mental state? Like wtf? There's no reason to suspect Trump wasn't of sound mind when he made that call, why would the prosecution need to gather evidence regarding his mental state? \nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call. Especially when paired with all the publicly avaliable Trump's unproven claims of stolen elections - as if the context of a incumbent struggling for a second term and abusing his presudential position to influence election officials wasn't enough already. On top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \nSo either we're gonna keep making excuses why an attempt to overturn American democracy has gone unpunished, or it's time to finally face the fact that Trump is above the law, and unless the American public actively demands justice, nothings going to be done, and Trump won't live to see the inside of a courthouse, much less a conviction.",
">\n\n\nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call.\n\nWhere did you go to law school? \nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent. It is the prosecution's burden of proof to demonstrate that Trump meant \"feloniously fabricate 11,780 votes that don't exist,\" when technically his words said \"my sources tell me that thousands of my votes were illegally discarded and thousands of Biden votes were illegally created, so I need you to investigate until you find enough of these fraudulent votes, at least 11,780, to show that the election was stolen from me.\" \nOf course we all know what he really meant. But the law is very literal, and the prosecution is required to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he meant something different from what he said. If anyone on that jury suspects that Trump really believed there was ballot-stuffing in Georgia, then the prosecution fails to prove criminal intent, and therefore he cannot be convicted of solicitation of election fraud. \nI wouldn't want to be the prosecutor who has to prove Donald J. Trump didn't believe a conspiracy theory that served his ego. \n\nOn top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \n\nAnd that is exactly what they have been doing. There have been grand juries examining evidence, gathering testimony and communications records from various election officials, lawmakers, people in Trump's orbit, etc., and, considering the timing of their recent conclusion, I presume they have also been examining the House Committee hearings, which make the strongest case so far that Trump knew he lost Georgia. I believe they are also looking at crimes beyond the phone call, related to fraud, intimidation, etc. \n\nwe're gonna keep making excuses \n\nNobody is making excuses to not prosecute Trump. I am explaining the legal steps they have been taking to prosecute him. \nEverything Georgia has been doing signals that they are serious about building a strong case to prosecute Trump and, probably, others in his orbit. You don't impanel grand juries and subpoena congressmen and presidential advisors just for funsies. \nNote that I'm not saying they definitely will indict, and I'm not saying \"the walls are closing in, it's really gonna happen this time.\" There is still a possibility that that the Grand Jury has concluded \"it's obvious Trump is guilty as fuck, but the evidence is ambiguous/circumstantial enough that it may not be possible to secure a conviction under the law as it is written. Given what we know, and what legal scholars have argued in various articles, I think it's more likely they will move forward with indictments. \nApparently under Georgia law, the next step is to impanel another Grand Jury with indictment powers. I don't know how long that process takes. Again, I'm not saying that Georgia will definitely indict: I don't have enough information to make this claim. But I am saying that they have done everything possible to get this case to third base with the bases loaded and a strong hitter at bat, so suggesting they are not serious about trying to hold Trump accountable is verifiably incorrect.",
">\n\n\nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent\n\nWhen did I say that prosecutors should not bother proving Trump had an intent to falsy election results? And why did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent? Maybe because you realized your original post made no sense?\n\nThere have been grand juries examining evidence\n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nwhy did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent?\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent. In this case, it is crucial for the prosecution to prove that Trump's state of mind, at the time of the phone call, was the felonious intention to willfully solicit a fabricated vote count. \n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.\n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. The House Committee has reached a conclusion that Trump could be charged with at least 4 crimes, and has released all their evidence. The Georgia grand jury has reached a conclusion that has not yet been released, but I think it's likely it has gathered enough to justify criminal state level indictments. \nI'm not going to say that indictments are definitely imminent, but the conclusions of these two major investigations suggest that we are significantly closer to, not farther from, the likelihood of seeing Trump in a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent.\n\nThat's my mistake then, you were using such a broad term, I had no idea you wers referring to actual intent. I really didn't expect anyone would quest Trump's intent considering its blatantly obvious from the contents of his phone call, especially in the context of all his public statements regarding unbased claims of stolen elections. \nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering without even an indicement, yet here we are. \n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \nI'll add that it's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months after Trump organized a coup to overthrow the US government. \nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\nIt took all this time and effort just to reach a conclusion that Trump 'could be charged'.\nThat would be so completely laughable if the continuation of democracy itself wasn't in question.",
">\n\n\nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering \n\nThe evidence is available because of the two years of evidence gathering. \nA lot of that time involves the legal battles of procuring the evidence in the first place. For example the Georgia grand jury issued a subpoena to Senator Lindsey Graham in early July, and he fought it all the way up to the Supreme Court, which denied his appeal, and he finally had to testify in late November. So he was able to delay for almost half a year, and in the meantime Georgia prosecutors had to prepare and defend their subpoena in court every step of the way. Practically every bit of evidence takes extensive preparation to justify demanding it, then to negotiate and/or battle over how much they can legally demand, when and how the evidence will be provided, and under what limitations. Trump and his cronies are notorious for gumming up the process in appeals which delay every step by months or years. \nMy understanding is that the Georgia grand jury looked at far more than just Trump and a single phone call. They were looking at \"a multi-state, coordinated plan by the Trump Campaign to influence the results of the November 2020 election in Georgia and elsewhere.\" The phone call was one piece of the puzzle, but there were other phone calls by Trump and his allies, false statements made by the Trump campaign in Georgia legislative meetings, several people signing fake elector certificates, attempts to pressure/intimidate election workers, breaches of election equipment, etc. That's a lot. It takes time. Two years is actually pretty fast for something of this magnitude. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \n\nSo far. The DOJ case is the largest and most widespread investigation in DOJ history, with the largest number of defendants of any criminal investigation. This takes time. \n\nit's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months\n\nThe DOJ was investigating during the first six months. In the first six months the DOJ identified, arrested, and charged hundreds of people who stormed the Capitol. In the meantime they were raiding Giuliani's house and confiscating phones and devices from him and other Trump lawyers and advisors. In the meantime they were preparing Seditious Conspiracy prosecutions for Proud Boys. In the meantime they were building up justification to raid Mar a Lago, and then fighting in court to get access to the documents they confiscated. In the meantime they were fighting in court to enforce subpoenas and to overcome executive privilege claims that were obstructing their investigation. \nThe DOJ has limited resources and only so many prosecutors to go around. Reportedly the DOJ has had to \"borrow\" state prosecutors just to keep up with the massive amount of work this investigation requires. So it's a good thing the House Committee conducted their own investigation, as it procured shitloads of evidence and testimony that the DOJ didn't have to devote resources to. And now that the DOJ has the House report, they have a new batch of leads to follow, which is evident from the new round of subpoenas Smith issued in the last few weeks. \n\nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\n\nIf you think building a case of this magnitude should be quick, I don't know what to tell you. I've tried to give you a sense of the monumental amount of work involved, and the monumental amount of work that it takes to prepare and battle each and every step of the overall monumental work. The fact that it's only been two years and several of these investigations are already concluding and appear to be on the cusp of indictments, is actually pretty fast, when you consider the massive number of people and the wide range of alleged crimes involved.",
">\n\nWho knows but lets go already!!",
">\n\nIt'll be like smashing a champagne bottle against his thick skull.",
">\n\nSatisfyingly squelchy?",
">\n\nShe needs to hire heavy security if she does, given how unhinged his fanclub is.",
">\n\nThat’s what worries me. And not just her— basically anyone who goes after or even speaks out against Trump. I’d be scared to sleep at night or go pretty much anywhere…",
">\n\nTreat them as terrorists. Instant death."
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Pansy ass America is what we are, letting these criminals run unchecked
For a bunch of people who want to let criminals run unchecked, rhe DOJ, Georgia, and the House Committee have been mounting some pretty damn huge and aggressive investigations. It's almost as if they're working their asses off so they can stop these criminals from running unchecked.
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"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia",
">\n\nThen I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates.",
">\n\nThis is what upsets a lot of ppl. If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State. Now we hear the Fulton County DA can seek an indictment w/o waiting for the Judge.",
">\n\n\nIf Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State.\n\nEverybody likes to say that, but it's simply not true. They've had a grand jury examining evidence for months. The call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time of the call and proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended for Raffensberger to commit election fraud, when his words technically said otherwise. \nI imagine the House Committee report will be invaluable in demonstrating that Trump knew he was lying on that phone call. Rushing a prosecution before those hearings concluded would have been foolhardy.",
">\n\n\nThe call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time\n\nEvidence of Trump's mental state? Like wtf? There's no reason to suspect Trump wasn't of sound mind when he made that call, why would the prosecution need to gather evidence regarding his mental state? \nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call. Especially when paired with all the publicly avaliable Trump's unproven claims of stolen elections - as if the context of a incumbent struggling for a second term and abusing his presudential position to influence election officials wasn't enough already. On top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \nSo either we're gonna keep making excuses why an attempt to overturn American democracy has gone unpunished, or it's time to finally face the fact that Trump is above the law, and unless the American public actively demands justice, nothings going to be done, and Trump won't live to see the inside of a courthouse, much less a conviction.",
">\n\n\nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call.\n\nWhere did you go to law school? \nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent. It is the prosecution's burden of proof to demonstrate that Trump meant \"feloniously fabricate 11,780 votes that don't exist,\" when technically his words said \"my sources tell me that thousands of my votes were illegally discarded and thousands of Biden votes were illegally created, so I need you to investigate until you find enough of these fraudulent votes, at least 11,780, to show that the election was stolen from me.\" \nOf course we all know what he really meant. But the law is very literal, and the prosecution is required to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he meant something different from what he said. If anyone on that jury suspects that Trump really believed there was ballot-stuffing in Georgia, then the prosecution fails to prove criminal intent, and therefore he cannot be convicted of solicitation of election fraud. \nI wouldn't want to be the prosecutor who has to prove Donald J. Trump didn't believe a conspiracy theory that served his ego. \n\nOn top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \n\nAnd that is exactly what they have been doing. There have been grand juries examining evidence, gathering testimony and communications records from various election officials, lawmakers, people in Trump's orbit, etc., and, considering the timing of their recent conclusion, I presume they have also been examining the House Committee hearings, which make the strongest case so far that Trump knew he lost Georgia. I believe they are also looking at crimes beyond the phone call, related to fraud, intimidation, etc. \n\nwe're gonna keep making excuses \n\nNobody is making excuses to not prosecute Trump. I am explaining the legal steps they have been taking to prosecute him. \nEverything Georgia has been doing signals that they are serious about building a strong case to prosecute Trump and, probably, others in his orbit. You don't impanel grand juries and subpoena congressmen and presidential advisors just for funsies. \nNote that I'm not saying they definitely will indict, and I'm not saying \"the walls are closing in, it's really gonna happen this time.\" There is still a possibility that that the Grand Jury has concluded \"it's obvious Trump is guilty as fuck, but the evidence is ambiguous/circumstantial enough that it may not be possible to secure a conviction under the law as it is written. Given what we know, and what legal scholars have argued in various articles, I think it's more likely they will move forward with indictments. \nApparently under Georgia law, the next step is to impanel another Grand Jury with indictment powers. I don't know how long that process takes. Again, I'm not saying that Georgia will definitely indict: I don't have enough information to make this claim. But I am saying that they have done everything possible to get this case to third base with the bases loaded and a strong hitter at bat, so suggesting they are not serious about trying to hold Trump accountable is verifiably incorrect.",
">\n\n\nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent\n\nWhen did I say that prosecutors should not bother proving Trump had an intent to falsy election results? And why did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent? Maybe because you realized your original post made no sense?\n\nThere have been grand juries examining evidence\n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nwhy did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent?\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent. In this case, it is crucial for the prosecution to prove that Trump's state of mind, at the time of the phone call, was the felonious intention to willfully solicit a fabricated vote count. \n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.\n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. The House Committee has reached a conclusion that Trump could be charged with at least 4 crimes, and has released all their evidence. The Georgia grand jury has reached a conclusion that has not yet been released, but I think it's likely it has gathered enough to justify criminal state level indictments. \nI'm not going to say that indictments are definitely imminent, but the conclusions of these two major investigations suggest that we are significantly closer to, not farther from, the likelihood of seeing Trump in a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent.\n\nThat's my mistake then, you were using such a broad term, I had no idea you wers referring to actual intent. I really didn't expect anyone would quest Trump's intent considering its blatantly obvious from the contents of his phone call, especially in the context of all his public statements regarding unbased claims of stolen elections. \nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering without even an indicement, yet here we are. \n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \nI'll add that it's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months after Trump organized a coup to overthrow the US government. \nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\nIt took all this time and effort just to reach a conclusion that Trump 'could be charged'.\nThat would be so completely laughable if the continuation of democracy itself wasn't in question.",
">\n\n\nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering \n\nThe evidence is available because of the two years of evidence gathering. \nA lot of that time involves the legal battles of procuring the evidence in the first place. For example the Georgia grand jury issued a subpoena to Senator Lindsey Graham in early July, and he fought it all the way up to the Supreme Court, which denied his appeal, and he finally had to testify in late November. So he was able to delay for almost half a year, and in the meantime Georgia prosecutors had to prepare and defend their subpoena in court every step of the way. Practically every bit of evidence takes extensive preparation to justify demanding it, then to negotiate and/or battle over how much they can legally demand, when and how the evidence will be provided, and under what limitations. Trump and his cronies are notorious for gumming up the process in appeals which delay every step by months or years. \nMy understanding is that the Georgia grand jury looked at far more than just Trump and a single phone call. They were looking at \"a multi-state, coordinated plan by the Trump Campaign to influence the results of the November 2020 election in Georgia and elsewhere.\" The phone call was one piece of the puzzle, but there were other phone calls by Trump and his allies, false statements made by the Trump campaign in Georgia legislative meetings, several people signing fake elector certificates, attempts to pressure/intimidate election workers, breaches of election equipment, etc. That's a lot. It takes time. Two years is actually pretty fast for something of this magnitude. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \n\nSo far. The DOJ case is the largest and most widespread investigation in DOJ history, with the largest number of defendants of any criminal investigation. This takes time. \n\nit's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months\n\nThe DOJ was investigating during the first six months. In the first six months the DOJ identified, arrested, and charged hundreds of people who stormed the Capitol. In the meantime they were raiding Giuliani's house and confiscating phones and devices from him and other Trump lawyers and advisors. In the meantime they were preparing Seditious Conspiracy prosecutions for Proud Boys. In the meantime they were building up justification to raid Mar a Lago, and then fighting in court to get access to the documents they confiscated. In the meantime they were fighting in court to enforce subpoenas and to overcome executive privilege claims that were obstructing their investigation. \nThe DOJ has limited resources and only so many prosecutors to go around. Reportedly the DOJ has had to \"borrow\" state prosecutors just to keep up with the massive amount of work this investigation requires. So it's a good thing the House Committee conducted their own investigation, as it procured shitloads of evidence and testimony that the DOJ didn't have to devote resources to. And now that the DOJ has the House report, they have a new batch of leads to follow, which is evident from the new round of subpoenas Smith issued in the last few weeks. \n\nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\n\nIf you think building a case of this magnitude should be quick, I don't know what to tell you. I've tried to give you a sense of the monumental amount of work involved, and the monumental amount of work that it takes to prepare and battle each and every step of the overall monumental work. The fact that it's only been two years and several of these investigations are already concluding and appear to be on the cusp of indictments, is actually pretty fast, when you consider the massive number of people and the wide range of alleged crimes involved.",
">\n\nWho knows but lets go already!!",
">\n\nIt'll be like smashing a champagne bottle against his thick skull.",
">\n\nSatisfyingly squelchy?",
">\n\nShe needs to hire heavy security if she does, given how unhinged his fanclub is.",
">\n\nThat’s what worries me. And not just her— basically anyone who goes after or even speaks out against Trump. I’d be scared to sleep at night or go pretty much anywhere…",
">\n\nTreat them as terrorists. Instant death.",
">\n\nWhen it comes to Trump, the word indictment has lost all meaning. Impeachment, criminal, fraud, President…All lost their meaning. \nPansy ass America is what we are, letting these criminals run unchecked"
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I may be biased in my opinion, because I voted for Fani Willis to be my county's DA.
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"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia",
">\n\nThen I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates.",
">\n\nThis is what upsets a lot of ppl. If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State. Now we hear the Fulton County DA can seek an indictment w/o waiting for the Judge.",
">\n\n\nIf Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State.\n\nEverybody likes to say that, but it's simply not true. They've had a grand jury examining evidence for months. The call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time of the call and proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended for Raffensberger to commit election fraud, when his words technically said otherwise. \nI imagine the House Committee report will be invaluable in demonstrating that Trump knew he was lying on that phone call. Rushing a prosecution before those hearings concluded would have been foolhardy.",
">\n\n\nThe call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time\n\nEvidence of Trump's mental state? Like wtf? There's no reason to suspect Trump wasn't of sound mind when he made that call, why would the prosecution need to gather evidence regarding his mental state? \nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call. Especially when paired with all the publicly avaliable Trump's unproven claims of stolen elections - as if the context of a incumbent struggling for a second term and abusing his presudential position to influence election officials wasn't enough already. On top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \nSo either we're gonna keep making excuses why an attempt to overturn American democracy has gone unpunished, or it's time to finally face the fact that Trump is above the law, and unless the American public actively demands justice, nothings going to be done, and Trump won't live to see the inside of a courthouse, much less a conviction.",
">\n\n\nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call.\n\nWhere did you go to law school? \nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent. It is the prosecution's burden of proof to demonstrate that Trump meant \"feloniously fabricate 11,780 votes that don't exist,\" when technically his words said \"my sources tell me that thousands of my votes were illegally discarded and thousands of Biden votes were illegally created, so I need you to investigate until you find enough of these fraudulent votes, at least 11,780, to show that the election was stolen from me.\" \nOf course we all know what he really meant. But the law is very literal, and the prosecution is required to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he meant something different from what he said. If anyone on that jury suspects that Trump really believed there was ballot-stuffing in Georgia, then the prosecution fails to prove criminal intent, and therefore he cannot be convicted of solicitation of election fraud. \nI wouldn't want to be the prosecutor who has to prove Donald J. Trump didn't believe a conspiracy theory that served his ego. \n\nOn top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \n\nAnd that is exactly what they have been doing. There have been grand juries examining evidence, gathering testimony and communications records from various election officials, lawmakers, people in Trump's orbit, etc., and, considering the timing of their recent conclusion, I presume they have also been examining the House Committee hearings, which make the strongest case so far that Trump knew he lost Georgia. I believe they are also looking at crimes beyond the phone call, related to fraud, intimidation, etc. \n\nwe're gonna keep making excuses \n\nNobody is making excuses to not prosecute Trump. I am explaining the legal steps they have been taking to prosecute him. \nEverything Georgia has been doing signals that they are serious about building a strong case to prosecute Trump and, probably, others in his orbit. You don't impanel grand juries and subpoena congressmen and presidential advisors just for funsies. \nNote that I'm not saying they definitely will indict, and I'm not saying \"the walls are closing in, it's really gonna happen this time.\" There is still a possibility that that the Grand Jury has concluded \"it's obvious Trump is guilty as fuck, but the evidence is ambiguous/circumstantial enough that it may not be possible to secure a conviction under the law as it is written. Given what we know, and what legal scholars have argued in various articles, I think it's more likely they will move forward with indictments. \nApparently under Georgia law, the next step is to impanel another Grand Jury with indictment powers. I don't know how long that process takes. Again, I'm not saying that Georgia will definitely indict: I don't have enough information to make this claim. But I am saying that they have done everything possible to get this case to third base with the bases loaded and a strong hitter at bat, so suggesting they are not serious about trying to hold Trump accountable is verifiably incorrect.",
">\n\n\nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent\n\nWhen did I say that prosecutors should not bother proving Trump had an intent to falsy election results? And why did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent? Maybe because you realized your original post made no sense?\n\nThere have been grand juries examining evidence\n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nwhy did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent?\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent. In this case, it is crucial for the prosecution to prove that Trump's state of mind, at the time of the phone call, was the felonious intention to willfully solicit a fabricated vote count. \n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.\n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. The House Committee has reached a conclusion that Trump could be charged with at least 4 crimes, and has released all their evidence. The Georgia grand jury has reached a conclusion that has not yet been released, but I think it's likely it has gathered enough to justify criminal state level indictments. \nI'm not going to say that indictments are definitely imminent, but the conclusions of these two major investigations suggest that we are significantly closer to, not farther from, the likelihood of seeing Trump in a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent.\n\nThat's my mistake then, you were using such a broad term, I had no idea you wers referring to actual intent. I really didn't expect anyone would quest Trump's intent considering its blatantly obvious from the contents of his phone call, especially in the context of all his public statements regarding unbased claims of stolen elections. \nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering without even an indicement, yet here we are. \n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \nI'll add that it's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months after Trump organized a coup to overthrow the US government. \nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\nIt took all this time and effort just to reach a conclusion that Trump 'could be charged'.\nThat would be so completely laughable if the continuation of democracy itself wasn't in question.",
">\n\n\nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering \n\nThe evidence is available because of the two years of evidence gathering. \nA lot of that time involves the legal battles of procuring the evidence in the first place. For example the Georgia grand jury issued a subpoena to Senator Lindsey Graham in early July, and he fought it all the way up to the Supreme Court, which denied his appeal, and he finally had to testify in late November. So he was able to delay for almost half a year, and in the meantime Georgia prosecutors had to prepare and defend their subpoena in court every step of the way. Practically every bit of evidence takes extensive preparation to justify demanding it, then to negotiate and/or battle over how much they can legally demand, when and how the evidence will be provided, and under what limitations. Trump and his cronies are notorious for gumming up the process in appeals which delay every step by months or years. \nMy understanding is that the Georgia grand jury looked at far more than just Trump and a single phone call. They were looking at \"a multi-state, coordinated plan by the Trump Campaign to influence the results of the November 2020 election in Georgia and elsewhere.\" The phone call was one piece of the puzzle, but there were other phone calls by Trump and his allies, false statements made by the Trump campaign in Georgia legislative meetings, several people signing fake elector certificates, attempts to pressure/intimidate election workers, breaches of election equipment, etc. That's a lot. It takes time. Two years is actually pretty fast for something of this magnitude. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \n\nSo far. The DOJ case is the largest and most widespread investigation in DOJ history, with the largest number of defendants of any criminal investigation. This takes time. \n\nit's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months\n\nThe DOJ was investigating during the first six months. In the first six months the DOJ identified, arrested, and charged hundreds of people who stormed the Capitol. In the meantime they were raiding Giuliani's house and confiscating phones and devices from him and other Trump lawyers and advisors. In the meantime they were preparing Seditious Conspiracy prosecutions for Proud Boys. In the meantime they were building up justification to raid Mar a Lago, and then fighting in court to get access to the documents they confiscated. In the meantime they were fighting in court to enforce subpoenas and to overcome executive privilege claims that were obstructing their investigation. \nThe DOJ has limited resources and only so many prosecutors to go around. Reportedly the DOJ has had to \"borrow\" state prosecutors just to keep up with the massive amount of work this investigation requires. So it's a good thing the House Committee conducted their own investigation, as it procured shitloads of evidence and testimony that the DOJ didn't have to devote resources to. And now that the DOJ has the House report, they have a new batch of leads to follow, which is evident from the new round of subpoenas Smith issued in the last few weeks. \n\nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\n\nIf you think building a case of this magnitude should be quick, I don't know what to tell you. I've tried to give you a sense of the monumental amount of work involved, and the monumental amount of work that it takes to prepare and battle each and every step of the overall monumental work. The fact that it's only been two years and several of these investigations are already concluding and appear to be on the cusp of indictments, is actually pretty fast, when you consider the massive number of people and the wide range of alleged crimes involved.",
">\n\nWho knows but lets go already!!",
">\n\nIt'll be like smashing a champagne bottle against his thick skull.",
">\n\nSatisfyingly squelchy?",
">\n\nShe needs to hire heavy security if she does, given how unhinged his fanclub is.",
">\n\nThat’s what worries me. And not just her— basically anyone who goes after or even speaks out against Trump. I’d be scared to sleep at night or go pretty much anywhere…",
">\n\nTreat them as terrorists. Instant death.",
">\n\nWhen it comes to Trump, the word indictment has lost all meaning. Impeachment, criminal, fraud, President…All lost their meaning. \nPansy ass America is what we are, letting these criminals run unchecked",
">\n\n\nPansy ass America is what we are, letting these criminals run unchecked\n\nFor a bunch of people who want to let criminals run unchecked, rhe DOJ, Georgia, and the House Committee have been mounting some pretty damn huge and aggressive investigations. It's almost as if they're working their asses off so they can stop these criminals from running unchecked."
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"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia",
">\n\nThen I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates.",
">\n\nThis is what upsets a lot of ppl. If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State. Now we hear the Fulton County DA can seek an indictment w/o waiting for the Judge.",
">\n\n\nIf Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State.\n\nEverybody likes to say that, but it's simply not true. They've had a grand jury examining evidence for months. The call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time of the call and proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended for Raffensberger to commit election fraud, when his words technically said otherwise. \nI imagine the House Committee report will be invaluable in demonstrating that Trump knew he was lying on that phone call. Rushing a prosecution before those hearings concluded would have been foolhardy.",
">\n\n\nThe call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time\n\nEvidence of Trump's mental state? Like wtf? There's no reason to suspect Trump wasn't of sound mind when he made that call, why would the prosecution need to gather evidence regarding his mental state? \nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call. Especially when paired with all the publicly avaliable Trump's unproven claims of stolen elections - as if the context of a incumbent struggling for a second term and abusing his presudential position to influence election officials wasn't enough already. On top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \nSo either we're gonna keep making excuses why an attempt to overturn American democracy has gone unpunished, or it's time to finally face the fact that Trump is above the law, and unless the American public actively demands justice, nothings going to be done, and Trump won't live to see the inside of a courthouse, much less a conviction.",
">\n\n\nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call.\n\nWhere did you go to law school? \nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent. It is the prosecution's burden of proof to demonstrate that Trump meant \"feloniously fabricate 11,780 votes that don't exist,\" when technically his words said \"my sources tell me that thousands of my votes were illegally discarded and thousands of Biden votes were illegally created, so I need you to investigate until you find enough of these fraudulent votes, at least 11,780, to show that the election was stolen from me.\" \nOf course we all know what he really meant. But the law is very literal, and the prosecution is required to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he meant something different from what he said. If anyone on that jury suspects that Trump really believed there was ballot-stuffing in Georgia, then the prosecution fails to prove criminal intent, and therefore he cannot be convicted of solicitation of election fraud. \nI wouldn't want to be the prosecutor who has to prove Donald J. Trump didn't believe a conspiracy theory that served his ego. \n\nOn top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \n\nAnd that is exactly what they have been doing. There have been grand juries examining evidence, gathering testimony and communications records from various election officials, lawmakers, people in Trump's orbit, etc., and, considering the timing of their recent conclusion, I presume they have also been examining the House Committee hearings, which make the strongest case so far that Trump knew he lost Georgia. I believe they are also looking at crimes beyond the phone call, related to fraud, intimidation, etc. \n\nwe're gonna keep making excuses \n\nNobody is making excuses to not prosecute Trump. I am explaining the legal steps they have been taking to prosecute him. \nEverything Georgia has been doing signals that they are serious about building a strong case to prosecute Trump and, probably, others in his orbit. You don't impanel grand juries and subpoena congressmen and presidential advisors just for funsies. \nNote that I'm not saying they definitely will indict, and I'm not saying \"the walls are closing in, it's really gonna happen this time.\" There is still a possibility that that the Grand Jury has concluded \"it's obvious Trump is guilty as fuck, but the evidence is ambiguous/circumstantial enough that it may not be possible to secure a conviction under the law as it is written. Given what we know, and what legal scholars have argued in various articles, I think it's more likely they will move forward with indictments. \nApparently under Georgia law, the next step is to impanel another Grand Jury with indictment powers. I don't know how long that process takes. Again, I'm not saying that Georgia will definitely indict: I don't have enough information to make this claim. But I am saying that they have done everything possible to get this case to third base with the bases loaded and a strong hitter at bat, so suggesting they are not serious about trying to hold Trump accountable is verifiably incorrect.",
">\n\n\nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent\n\nWhen did I say that prosecutors should not bother proving Trump had an intent to falsy election results? And why did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent? Maybe because you realized your original post made no sense?\n\nThere have been grand juries examining evidence\n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nwhy did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent?\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent. In this case, it is crucial for the prosecution to prove that Trump's state of mind, at the time of the phone call, was the felonious intention to willfully solicit a fabricated vote count. \n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.\n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. The House Committee has reached a conclusion that Trump could be charged with at least 4 crimes, and has released all their evidence. The Georgia grand jury has reached a conclusion that has not yet been released, but I think it's likely it has gathered enough to justify criminal state level indictments. \nI'm not going to say that indictments are definitely imminent, but the conclusions of these two major investigations suggest that we are significantly closer to, not farther from, the likelihood of seeing Trump in a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent.\n\nThat's my mistake then, you were using such a broad term, I had no idea you wers referring to actual intent. I really didn't expect anyone would quest Trump's intent considering its blatantly obvious from the contents of his phone call, especially in the context of all his public statements regarding unbased claims of stolen elections. \nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering without even an indicement, yet here we are. \n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \nI'll add that it's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months after Trump organized a coup to overthrow the US government. \nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\nIt took all this time and effort just to reach a conclusion that Trump 'could be charged'.\nThat would be so completely laughable if the continuation of democracy itself wasn't in question.",
">\n\n\nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering \n\nThe evidence is available because of the two years of evidence gathering. \nA lot of that time involves the legal battles of procuring the evidence in the first place. For example the Georgia grand jury issued a subpoena to Senator Lindsey Graham in early July, and he fought it all the way up to the Supreme Court, which denied his appeal, and he finally had to testify in late November. So he was able to delay for almost half a year, and in the meantime Georgia prosecutors had to prepare and defend their subpoena in court every step of the way. Practically every bit of evidence takes extensive preparation to justify demanding it, then to negotiate and/or battle over how much they can legally demand, when and how the evidence will be provided, and under what limitations. Trump and his cronies are notorious for gumming up the process in appeals which delay every step by months or years. \nMy understanding is that the Georgia grand jury looked at far more than just Trump and a single phone call. They were looking at \"a multi-state, coordinated plan by the Trump Campaign to influence the results of the November 2020 election in Georgia and elsewhere.\" The phone call was one piece of the puzzle, but there were other phone calls by Trump and his allies, false statements made by the Trump campaign in Georgia legislative meetings, several people signing fake elector certificates, attempts to pressure/intimidate election workers, breaches of election equipment, etc. That's a lot. It takes time. Two years is actually pretty fast for something of this magnitude. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \n\nSo far. The DOJ case is the largest and most widespread investigation in DOJ history, with the largest number of defendants of any criminal investigation. This takes time. \n\nit's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months\n\nThe DOJ was investigating during the first six months. In the first six months the DOJ identified, arrested, and charged hundreds of people who stormed the Capitol. In the meantime they were raiding Giuliani's house and confiscating phones and devices from him and other Trump lawyers and advisors. In the meantime they were preparing Seditious Conspiracy prosecutions for Proud Boys. In the meantime they were building up justification to raid Mar a Lago, and then fighting in court to get access to the documents they confiscated. In the meantime they were fighting in court to enforce subpoenas and to overcome executive privilege claims that were obstructing their investigation. \nThe DOJ has limited resources and only so many prosecutors to go around. Reportedly the DOJ has had to \"borrow\" state prosecutors just to keep up with the massive amount of work this investigation requires. So it's a good thing the House Committee conducted their own investigation, as it procured shitloads of evidence and testimony that the DOJ didn't have to devote resources to. And now that the DOJ has the House report, they have a new batch of leads to follow, which is evident from the new round of subpoenas Smith issued in the last few weeks. \n\nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\n\nIf you think building a case of this magnitude should be quick, I don't know what to tell you. I've tried to give you a sense of the monumental amount of work involved, and the monumental amount of work that it takes to prepare and battle each and every step of the overall monumental work. The fact that it's only been two years and several of these investigations are already concluding and appear to be on the cusp of indictments, is actually pretty fast, when you consider the massive number of people and the wide range of alleged crimes involved.",
">\n\nWho knows but lets go already!!",
">\n\nIt'll be like smashing a champagne bottle against his thick skull.",
">\n\nSatisfyingly squelchy?",
">\n\nShe needs to hire heavy security if she does, given how unhinged his fanclub is.",
">\n\nThat’s what worries me. And not just her— basically anyone who goes after or even speaks out against Trump. I’d be scared to sleep at night or go pretty much anywhere…",
">\n\nTreat them as terrorists. Instant death.",
">\n\nWhen it comes to Trump, the word indictment has lost all meaning. Impeachment, criminal, fraud, President…All lost their meaning. \nPansy ass America is what we are, letting these criminals run unchecked",
">\n\n\nPansy ass America is what we are, letting these criminals run unchecked\n\nFor a bunch of people who want to let criminals run unchecked, rhe DOJ, Georgia, and the House Committee have been mounting some pretty damn huge and aggressive investigations. It's almost as if they're working their asses off so they can stop these criminals from running unchecked.",
">\n\nYes, next question.\nI may be biased in my opinion, because I voted for Fani Willis to be my county's DA."
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I hope so. He needs to be taken down.
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"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia",
">\n\nThen I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates.",
">\n\nThis is what upsets a lot of ppl. If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State. Now we hear the Fulton County DA can seek an indictment w/o waiting for the Judge.",
">\n\n\nIf Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State.\n\nEverybody likes to say that, but it's simply not true. They've had a grand jury examining evidence for months. The call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time of the call and proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended for Raffensberger to commit election fraud, when his words technically said otherwise. \nI imagine the House Committee report will be invaluable in demonstrating that Trump knew he was lying on that phone call. Rushing a prosecution before those hearings concluded would have been foolhardy.",
">\n\n\nThe call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time\n\nEvidence of Trump's mental state? Like wtf? There's no reason to suspect Trump wasn't of sound mind when he made that call, why would the prosecution need to gather evidence regarding his mental state? \nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call. Especially when paired with all the publicly avaliable Trump's unproven claims of stolen elections - as if the context of a incumbent struggling for a second term and abusing his presudential position to influence election officials wasn't enough already. On top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \nSo either we're gonna keep making excuses why an attempt to overturn American democracy has gone unpunished, or it's time to finally face the fact that Trump is above the law, and unless the American public actively demands justice, nothings going to be done, and Trump won't live to see the inside of a courthouse, much less a conviction.",
">\n\n\nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call.\n\nWhere did you go to law school? \nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent. It is the prosecution's burden of proof to demonstrate that Trump meant \"feloniously fabricate 11,780 votes that don't exist,\" when technically his words said \"my sources tell me that thousands of my votes were illegally discarded and thousands of Biden votes were illegally created, so I need you to investigate until you find enough of these fraudulent votes, at least 11,780, to show that the election was stolen from me.\" \nOf course we all know what he really meant. But the law is very literal, and the prosecution is required to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he meant something different from what he said. If anyone on that jury suspects that Trump really believed there was ballot-stuffing in Georgia, then the prosecution fails to prove criminal intent, and therefore he cannot be convicted of solicitation of election fraud. \nI wouldn't want to be the prosecutor who has to prove Donald J. Trump didn't believe a conspiracy theory that served his ego. \n\nOn top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \n\nAnd that is exactly what they have been doing. There have been grand juries examining evidence, gathering testimony and communications records from various election officials, lawmakers, people in Trump's orbit, etc., and, considering the timing of their recent conclusion, I presume they have also been examining the House Committee hearings, which make the strongest case so far that Trump knew he lost Georgia. I believe they are also looking at crimes beyond the phone call, related to fraud, intimidation, etc. \n\nwe're gonna keep making excuses \n\nNobody is making excuses to not prosecute Trump. I am explaining the legal steps they have been taking to prosecute him. \nEverything Georgia has been doing signals that they are serious about building a strong case to prosecute Trump and, probably, others in his orbit. You don't impanel grand juries and subpoena congressmen and presidential advisors just for funsies. \nNote that I'm not saying they definitely will indict, and I'm not saying \"the walls are closing in, it's really gonna happen this time.\" There is still a possibility that that the Grand Jury has concluded \"it's obvious Trump is guilty as fuck, but the evidence is ambiguous/circumstantial enough that it may not be possible to secure a conviction under the law as it is written. Given what we know, and what legal scholars have argued in various articles, I think it's more likely they will move forward with indictments. \nApparently under Georgia law, the next step is to impanel another Grand Jury with indictment powers. I don't know how long that process takes. Again, I'm not saying that Georgia will definitely indict: I don't have enough information to make this claim. But I am saying that they have done everything possible to get this case to third base with the bases loaded and a strong hitter at bat, so suggesting they are not serious about trying to hold Trump accountable is verifiably incorrect.",
">\n\n\nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent\n\nWhen did I say that prosecutors should not bother proving Trump had an intent to falsy election results? And why did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent? Maybe because you realized your original post made no sense?\n\nThere have been grand juries examining evidence\n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nwhy did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent?\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent. In this case, it is crucial for the prosecution to prove that Trump's state of mind, at the time of the phone call, was the felonious intention to willfully solicit a fabricated vote count. \n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.\n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. The House Committee has reached a conclusion that Trump could be charged with at least 4 crimes, and has released all their evidence. The Georgia grand jury has reached a conclusion that has not yet been released, but I think it's likely it has gathered enough to justify criminal state level indictments. \nI'm not going to say that indictments are definitely imminent, but the conclusions of these two major investigations suggest that we are significantly closer to, not farther from, the likelihood of seeing Trump in a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent.\n\nThat's my mistake then, you were using such a broad term, I had no idea you wers referring to actual intent. I really didn't expect anyone would quest Trump's intent considering its blatantly obvious from the contents of his phone call, especially in the context of all his public statements regarding unbased claims of stolen elections. \nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering without even an indicement, yet here we are. \n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \nI'll add that it's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months after Trump organized a coup to overthrow the US government. \nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\nIt took all this time and effort just to reach a conclusion that Trump 'could be charged'.\nThat would be so completely laughable if the continuation of democracy itself wasn't in question.",
">\n\n\nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering \n\nThe evidence is available because of the two years of evidence gathering. \nA lot of that time involves the legal battles of procuring the evidence in the first place. For example the Georgia grand jury issued a subpoena to Senator Lindsey Graham in early July, and he fought it all the way up to the Supreme Court, which denied his appeal, and he finally had to testify in late November. So he was able to delay for almost half a year, and in the meantime Georgia prosecutors had to prepare and defend their subpoena in court every step of the way. Practically every bit of evidence takes extensive preparation to justify demanding it, then to negotiate and/or battle over how much they can legally demand, when and how the evidence will be provided, and under what limitations. Trump and his cronies are notorious for gumming up the process in appeals which delay every step by months or years. \nMy understanding is that the Georgia grand jury looked at far more than just Trump and a single phone call. They were looking at \"a multi-state, coordinated plan by the Trump Campaign to influence the results of the November 2020 election in Georgia and elsewhere.\" The phone call was one piece of the puzzle, but there were other phone calls by Trump and his allies, false statements made by the Trump campaign in Georgia legislative meetings, several people signing fake elector certificates, attempts to pressure/intimidate election workers, breaches of election equipment, etc. That's a lot. It takes time. Two years is actually pretty fast for something of this magnitude. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \n\nSo far. The DOJ case is the largest and most widespread investigation in DOJ history, with the largest number of defendants of any criminal investigation. This takes time. \n\nit's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months\n\nThe DOJ was investigating during the first six months. In the first six months the DOJ identified, arrested, and charged hundreds of people who stormed the Capitol. In the meantime they were raiding Giuliani's house and confiscating phones and devices from him and other Trump lawyers and advisors. In the meantime they were preparing Seditious Conspiracy prosecutions for Proud Boys. In the meantime they were building up justification to raid Mar a Lago, and then fighting in court to get access to the documents they confiscated. In the meantime they were fighting in court to enforce subpoenas and to overcome executive privilege claims that were obstructing their investigation. \nThe DOJ has limited resources and only so many prosecutors to go around. Reportedly the DOJ has had to \"borrow\" state prosecutors just to keep up with the massive amount of work this investigation requires. So it's a good thing the House Committee conducted their own investigation, as it procured shitloads of evidence and testimony that the DOJ didn't have to devote resources to. And now that the DOJ has the House report, they have a new batch of leads to follow, which is evident from the new round of subpoenas Smith issued in the last few weeks. \n\nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\n\nIf you think building a case of this magnitude should be quick, I don't know what to tell you. I've tried to give you a sense of the monumental amount of work involved, and the monumental amount of work that it takes to prepare and battle each and every step of the overall monumental work. The fact that it's only been two years and several of these investigations are already concluding and appear to be on the cusp of indictments, is actually pretty fast, when you consider the massive number of people and the wide range of alleged crimes involved.",
">\n\nWho knows but lets go already!!",
">\n\nIt'll be like smashing a champagne bottle against his thick skull.",
">\n\nSatisfyingly squelchy?",
">\n\nShe needs to hire heavy security if she does, given how unhinged his fanclub is.",
">\n\nThat’s what worries me. And not just her— basically anyone who goes after or even speaks out against Trump. I’d be scared to sleep at night or go pretty much anywhere…",
">\n\nTreat them as terrorists. Instant death.",
">\n\nWhen it comes to Trump, the word indictment has lost all meaning. Impeachment, criminal, fraud, President…All lost their meaning. \nPansy ass America is what we are, letting these criminals run unchecked",
">\n\n\nPansy ass America is what we are, letting these criminals run unchecked\n\nFor a bunch of people who want to let criminals run unchecked, rhe DOJ, Georgia, and the House Committee have been mounting some pretty damn huge and aggressive investigations. It's almost as if they're working their asses off so they can stop these criminals from running unchecked.",
">\n\nYes, next question.\nI may be biased in my opinion, because I voted for Fani Willis to be my county's DA.",
">\n\n*bated"
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Could be, might be, possible, soon, never, lol yeah right.
Money in mouth, but it’s cheap talk and what not.
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"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia",
">\n\nThen I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates.",
">\n\nThis is what upsets a lot of ppl. If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State. Now we hear the Fulton County DA can seek an indictment w/o waiting for the Judge.",
">\n\n\nIf Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State.\n\nEverybody likes to say that, but it's simply not true. They've had a grand jury examining evidence for months. The call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time of the call and proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended for Raffensberger to commit election fraud, when his words technically said otherwise. \nI imagine the House Committee report will be invaluable in demonstrating that Trump knew he was lying on that phone call. Rushing a prosecution before those hearings concluded would have been foolhardy.",
">\n\n\nThe call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time\n\nEvidence of Trump's mental state? Like wtf? There's no reason to suspect Trump wasn't of sound mind when he made that call, why would the prosecution need to gather evidence regarding his mental state? \nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call. Especially when paired with all the publicly avaliable Trump's unproven claims of stolen elections - as if the context of a incumbent struggling for a second term and abusing his presudential position to influence election officials wasn't enough already. On top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \nSo either we're gonna keep making excuses why an attempt to overturn American democracy has gone unpunished, or it's time to finally face the fact that Trump is above the law, and unless the American public actively demands justice, nothings going to be done, and Trump won't live to see the inside of a courthouse, much less a conviction.",
">\n\n\nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call.\n\nWhere did you go to law school? \nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent. It is the prosecution's burden of proof to demonstrate that Trump meant \"feloniously fabricate 11,780 votes that don't exist,\" when technically his words said \"my sources tell me that thousands of my votes were illegally discarded and thousands of Biden votes were illegally created, so I need you to investigate until you find enough of these fraudulent votes, at least 11,780, to show that the election was stolen from me.\" \nOf course we all know what he really meant. But the law is very literal, and the prosecution is required to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he meant something different from what he said. If anyone on that jury suspects that Trump really believed there was ballot-stuffing in Georgia, then the prosecution fails to prove criminal intent, and therefore he cannot be convicted of solicitation of election fraud. \nI wouldn't want to be the prosecutor who has to prove Donald J. Trump didn't believe a conspiracy theory that served his ego. \n\nOn top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \n\nAnd that is exactly what they have been doing. There have been grand juries examining evidence, gathering testimony and communications records from various election officials, lawmakers, people in Trump's orbit, etc., and, considering the timing of their recent conclusion, I presume they have also been examining the House Committee hearings, which make the strongest case so far that Trump knew he lost Georgia. I believe they are also looking at crimes beyond the phone call, related to fraud, intimidation, etc. \n\nwe're gonna keep making excuses \n\nNobody is making excuses to not prosecute Trump. I am explaining the legal steps they have been taking to prosecute him. \nEverything Georgia has been doing signals that they are serious about building a strong case to prosecute Trump and, probably, others in his orbit. You don't impanel grand juries and subpoena congressmen and presidential advisors just for funsies. \nNote that I'm not saying they definitely will indict, and I'm not saying \"the walls are closing in, it's really gonna happen this time.\" There is still a possibility that that the Grand Jury has concluded \"it's obvious Trump is guilty as fuck, but the evidence is ambiguous/circumstantial enough that it may not be possible to secure a conviction under the law as it is written. Given what we know, and what legal scholars have argued in various articles, I think it's more likely they will move forward with indictments. \nApparently under Georgia law, the next step is to impanel another Grand Jury with indictment powers. I don't know how long that process takes. Again, I'm not saying that Georgia will definitely indict: I don't have enough information to make this claim. But I am saying that they have done everything possible to get this case to third base with the bases loaded and a strong hitter at bat, so suggesting they are not serious about trying to hold Trump accountable is verifiably incorrect.",
">\n\n\nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent\n\nWhen did I say that prosecutors should not bother proving Trump had an intent to falsy election results? And why did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent? Maybe because you realized your original post made no sense?\n\nThere have been grand juries examining evidence\n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nwhy did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent?\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent. In this case, it is crucial for the prosecution to prove that Trump's state of mind, at the time of the phone call, was the felonious intention to willfully solicit a fabricated vote count. \n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.\n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. The House Committee has reached a conclusion that Trump could be charged with at least 4 crimes, and has released all their evidence. The Georgia grand jury has reached a conclusion that has not yet been released, but I think it's likely it has gathered enough to justify criminal state level indictments. \nI'm not going to say that indictments are definitely imminent, but the conclusions of these two major investigations suggest that we are significantly closer to, not farther from, the likelihood of seeing Trump in a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent.\n\nThat's my mistake then, you were using such a broad term, I had no idea you wers referring to actual intent. I really didn't expect anyone would quest Trump's intent considering its blatantly obvious from the contents of his phone call, especially in the context of all his public statements regarding unbased claims of stolen elections. \nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering without even an indicement, yet here we are. \n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \nI'll add that it's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months after Trump organized a coup to overthrow the US government. \nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\nIt took all this time and effort just to reach a conclusion that Trump 'could be charged'.\nThat would be so completely laughable if the continuation of democracy itself wasn't in question.",
">\n\n\nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering \n\nThe evidence is available because of the two years of evidence gathering. \nA lot of that time involves the legal battles of procuring the evidence in the first place. For example the Georgia grand jury issued a subpoena to Senator Lindsey Graham in early July, and he fought it all the way up to the Supreme Court, which denied his appeal, and he finally had to testify in late November. So he was able to delay for almost half a year, and in the meantime Georgia prosecutors had to prepare and defend their subpoena in court every step of the way. Practically every bit of evidence takes extensive preparation to justify demanding it, then to negotiate and/or battle over how much they can legally demand, when and how the evidence will be provided, and under what limitations. Trump and his cronies are notorious for gumming up the process in appeals which delay every step by months or years. \nMy understanding is that the Georgia grand jury looked at far more than just Trump and a single phone call. They were looking at \"a multi-state, coordinated plan by the Trump Campaign to influence the results of the November 2020 election in Georgia and elsewhere.\" The phone call was one piece of the puzzle, but there were other phone calls by Trump and his allies, false statements made by the Trump campaign in Georgia legislative meetings, several people signing fake elector certificates, attempts to pressure/intimidate election workers, breaches of election equipment, etc. That's a lot. It takes time. Two years is actually pretty fast for something of this magnitude. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \n\nSo far. The DOJ case is the largest and most widespread investigation in DOJ history, with the largest number of defendants of any criminal investigation. This takes time. \n\nit's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months\n\nThe DOJ was investigating during the first six months. In the first six months the DOJ identified, arrested, and charged hundreds of people who stormed the Capitol. In the meantime they were raiding Giuliani's house and confiscating phones and devices from him and other Trump lawyers and advisors. In the meantime they were preparing Seditious Conspiracy prosecutions for Proud Boys. In the meantime they were building up justification to raid Mar a Lago, and then fighting in court to get access to the documents they confiscated. In the meantime they were fighting in court to enforce subpoenas and to overcome executive privilege claims that were obstructing their investigation. \nThe DOJ has limited resources and only so many prosecutors to go around. Reportedly the DOJ has had to \"borrow\" state prosecutors just to keep up with the massive amount of work this investigation requires. So it's a good thing the House Committee conducted their own investigation, as it procured shitloads of evidence and testimony that the DOJ didn't have to devote resources to. And now that the DOJ has the House report, they have a new batch of leads to follow, which is evident from the new round of subpoenas Smith issued in the last few weeks. \n\nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\n\nIf you think building a case of this magnitude should be quick, I don't know what to tell you. I've tried to give you a sense of the monumental amount of work involved, and the monumental amount of work that it takes to prepare and battle each and every step of the overall monumental work. The fact that it's only been two years and several of these investigations are already concluding and appear to be on the cusp of indictments, is actually pretty fast, when you consider the massive number of people and the wide range of alleged crimes involved.",
">\n\nWho knows but lets go already!!",
">\n\nIt'll be like smashing a champagne bottle against his thick skull.",
">\n\nSatisfyingly squelchy?",
">\n\nShe needs to hire heavy security if she does, given how unhinged his fanclub is.",
">\n\nThat’s what worries me. And not just her— basically anyone who goes after or even speaks out against Trump. I’d be scared to sleep at night or go pretty much anywhere…",
">\n\nTreat them as terrorists. Instant death.",
">\n\nWhen it comes to Trump, the word indictment has lost all meaning. Impeachment, criminal, fraud, President…All lost their meaning. \nPansy ass America is what we are, letting these criminals run unchecked",
">\n\n\nPansy ass America is what we are, letting these criminals run unchecked\n\nFor a bunch of people who want to let criminals run unchecked, rhe DOJ, Georgia, and the House Committee have been mounting some pretty damn huge and aggressive investigations. It's almost as if they're working their asses off so they can stop these criminals from running unchecked.",
">\n\nYes, next question.\nI may be biased in my opinion, because I voted for Fani Willis to be my county's DA.",
">\n\n*bated",
">\n\nI hope so. He needs to be taken down."
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He’s in so much trouble! Article #1,980,420.
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"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia",
">\n\nThen I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates.",
">\n\nThis is what upsets a lot of ppl. If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State. Now we hear the Fulton County DA can seek an indictment w/o waiting for the Judge.",
">\n\n\nIf Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State.\n\nEverybody likes to say that, but it's simply not true. They've had a grand jury examining evidence for months. The call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time of the call and proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended for Raffensberger to commit election fraud, when his words technically said otherwise. \nI imagine the House Committee report will be invaluable in demonstrating that Trump knew he was lying on that phone call. Rushing a prosecution before those hearings concluded would have been foolhardy.",
">\n\n\nThe call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time\n\nEvidence of Trump's mental state? Like wtf? There's no reason to suspect Trump wasn't of sound mind when he made that call, why would the prosecution need to gather evidence regarding his mental state? \nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call. Especially when paired with all the publicly avaliable Trump's unproven claims of stolen elections - as if the context of a incumbent struggling for a second term and abusing his presudential position to influence election officials wasn't enough already. On top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \nSo either we're gonna keep making excuses why an attempt to overturn American democracy has gone unpunished, or it's time to finally face the fact that Trump is above the law, and unless the American public actively demands justice, nothings going to be done, and Trump won't live to see the inside of a courthouse, much less a conviction.",
">\n\n\nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call.\n\nWhere did you go to law school? \nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent. It is the prosecution's burden of proof to demonstrate that Trump meant \"feloniously fabricate 11,780 votes that don't exist,\" when technically his words said \"my sources tell me that thousands of my votes were illegally discarded and thousands of Biden votes were illegally created, so I need you to investigate until you find enough of these fraudulent votes, at least 11,780, to show that the election was stolen from me.\" \nOf course we all know what he really meant. But the law is very literal, and the prosecution is required to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he meant something different from what he said. If anyone on that jury suspects that Trump really believed there was ballot-stuffing in Georgia, then the prosecution fails to prove criminal intent, and therefore he cannot be convicted of solicitation of election fraud. \nI wouldn't want to be the prosecutor who has to prove Donald J. Trump didn't believe a conspiracy theory that served his ego. \n\nOn top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \n\nAnd that is exactly what they have been doing. There have been grand juries examining evidence, gathering testimony and communications records from various election officials, lawmakers, people in Trump's orbit, etc., and, considering the timing of their recent conclusion, I presume they have also been examining the House Committee hearings, which make the strongest case so far that Trump knew he lost Georgia. I believe they are also looking at crimes beyond the phone call, related to fraud, intimidation, etc. \n\nwe're gonna keep making excuses \n\nNobody is making excuses to not prosecute Trump. I am explaining the legal steps they have been taking to prosecute him. \nEverything Georgia has been doing signals that they are serious about building a strong case to prosecute Trump and, probably, others in his orbit. You don't impanel grand juries and subpoena congressmen and presidential advisors just for funsies. \nNote that I'm not saying they definitely will indict, and I'm not saying \"the walls are closing in, it's really gonna happen this time.\" There is still a possibility that that the Grand Jury has concluded \"it's obvious Trump is guilty as fuck, but the evidence is ambiguous/circumstantial enough that it may not be possible to secure a conviction under the law as it is written. Given what we know, and what legal scholars have argued in various articles, I think it's more likely they will move forward with indictments. \nApparently under Georgia law, the next step is to impanel another Grand Jury with indictment powers. I don't know how long that process takes. Again, I'm not saying that Georgia will definitely indict: I don't have enough information to make this claim. But I am saying that they have done everything possible to get this case to third base with the bases loaded and a strong hitter at bat, so suggesting they are not serious about trying to hold Trump accountable is verifiably incorrect.",
">\n\n\nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent\n\nWhen did I say that prosecutors should not bother proving Trump had an intent to falsy election results? And why did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent? Maybe because you realized your original post made no sense?\n\nThere have been grand juries examining evidence\n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nwhy did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent?\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent. In this case, it is crucial for the prosecution to prove that Trump's state of mind, at the time of the phone call, was the felonious intention to willfully solicit a fabricated vote count. \n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.\n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. The House Committee has reached a conclusion that Trump could be charged with at least 4 crimes, and has released all their evidence. The Georgia grand jury has reached a conclusion that has not yet been released, but I think it's likely it has gathered enough to justify criminal state level indictments. \nI'm not going to say that indictments are definitely imminent, but the conclusions of these two major investigations suggest that we are significantly closer to, not farther from, the likelihood of seeing Trump in a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent.\n\nThat's my mistake then, you were using such a broad term, I had no idea you wers referring to actual intent. I really didn't expect anyone would quest Trump's intent considering its blatantly obvious from the contents of his phone call, especially in the context of all his public statements regarding unbased claims of stolen elections. \nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering without even an indicement, yet here we are. \n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \nI'll add that it's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months after Trump organized a coup to overthrow the US government. \nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\nIt took all this time and effort just to reach a conclusion that Trump 'could be charged'.\nThat would be so completely laughable if the continuation of democracy itself wasn't in question.",
">\n\n\nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering \n\nThe evidence is available because of the two years of evidence gathering. \nA lot of that time involves the legal battles of procuring the evidence in the first place. For example the Georgia grand jury issued a subpoena to Senator Lindsey Graham in early July, and he fought it all the way up to the Supreme Court, which denied his appeal, and he finally had to testify in late November. So he was able to delay for almost half a year, and in the meantime Georgia prosecutors had to prepare and defend their subpoena in court every step of the way. Practically every bit of evidence takes extensive preparation to justify demanding it, then to negotiate and/or battle over how much they can legally demand, when and how the evidence will be provided, and under what limitations. Trump and his cronies are notorious for gumming up the process in appeals which delay every step by months or years. \nMy understanding is that the Georgia grand jury looked at far more than just Trump and a single phone call. They were looking at \"a multi-state, coordinated plan by the Trump Campaign to influence the results of the November 2020 election in Georgia and elsewhere.\" The phone call was one piece of the puzzle, but there were other phone calls by Trump and his allies, false statements made by the Trump campaign in Georgia legislative meetings, several people signing fake elector certificates, attempts to pressure/intimidate election workers, breaches of election equipment, etc. That's a lot. It takes time. Two years is actually pretty fast for something of this magnitude. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \n\nSo far. The DOJ case is the largest and most widespread investigation in DOJ history, with the largest number of defendants of any criminal investigation. This takes time. \n\nit's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months\n\nThe DOJ was investigating during the first six months. In the first six months the DOJ identified, arrested, and charged hundreds of people who stormed the Capitol. In the meantime they were raiding Giuliani's house and confiscating phones and devices from him and other Trump lawyers and advisors. In the meantime they were preparing Seditious Conspiracy prosecutions for Proud Boys. In the meantime they were building up justification to raid Mar a Lago, and then fighting in court to get access to the documents they confiscated. In the meantime they were fighting in court to enforce subpoenas and to overcome executive privilege claims that were obstructing their investigation. \nThe DOJ has limited resources and only so many prosecutors to go around. Reportedly the DOJ has had to \"borrow\" state prosecutors just to keep up with the massive amount of work this investigation requires. So it's a good thing the House Committee conducted their own investigation, as it procured shitloads of evidence and testimony that the DOJ didn't have to devote resources to. And now that the DOJ has the House report, they have a new batch of leads to follow, which is evident from the new round of subpoenas Smith issued in the last few weeks. \n\nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\n\nIf you think building a case of this magnitude should be quick, I don't know what to tell you. I've tried to give you a sense of the monumental amount of work involved, and the monumental amount of work that it takes to prepare and battle each and every step of the overall monumental work. The fact that it's only been two years and several of these investigations are already concluding and appear to be on the cusp of indictments, is actually pretty fast, when you consider the massive number of people and the wide range of alleged crimes involved.",
">\n\nWho knows but lets go already!!",
">\n\nIt'll be like smashing a champagne bottle against his thick skull.",
">\n\nSatisfyingly squelchy?",
">\n\nShe needs to hire heavy security if she does, given how unhinged his fanclub is.",
">\n\nThat’s what worries me. And not just her— basically anyone who goes after or even speaks out against Trump. I’d be scared to sleep at night or go pretty much anywhere…",
">\n\nTreat them as terrorists. Instant death.",
">\n\nWhen it comes to Trump, the word indictment has lost all meaning. Impeachment, criminal, fraud, President…All lost their meaning. \nPansy ass America is what we are, letting these criminals run unchecked",
">\n\n\nPansy ass America is what we are, letting these criminals run unchecked\n\nFor a bunch of people who want to let criminals run unchecked, rhe DOJ, Georgia, and the House Committee have been mounting some pretty damn huge and aggressive investigations. It's almost as if they're working their asses off so they can stop these criminals from running unchecked.",
">\n\nYes, next question.\nI may be biased in my opinion, because I voted for Fani Willis to be my county's DA.",
">\n\n*bated",
">\n\nI hope so. He needs to be taken down.",
">\n\nCould be, might be, possible, soon, never, lol yeah right. \nMoney in mouth, but it’s cheap talk and what not."
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Hes really gonna get it now! Just you wait! This time its different!
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"It was be ironic if the misogynistic, racist, twice impeached, disgraced former president is brought to justice down by a black female. \nI’d like to see that happen.",
">\n\nWell first he has to get convicted, and second, the Georgia Governor has to not pardon or commute his sentence.",
">\n\nI detest both men, but I think there’s a fair chance Kemp would let Trump rot.",
">\n\n“Georgia is one of nine states in the U.S. with a Board of Pardons and Paroles that exclusively grants all state pardons.” - Wikipedia",
">\n\nThen I think it would be even more unlikely that he skates.",
">\n\nThis is what upsets a lot of ppl. If Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State. Now we hear the Fulton County DA can seek an indictment w/o waiting for the Judge.",
">\n\n\nIf Trump was an ordinary citizen, he would have been indicted over a year ago based on the phone call to the Sec of State.\n\nEverybody likes to say that, but it's simply not true. They've had a grand jury examining evidence for months. The call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time of the call and proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended for Raffensberger to commit election fraud, when his words technically said otherwise. \nI imagine the House Committee report will be invaluable in demonstrating that Trump knew he was lying on that phone call. Rushing a prosecution before those hearings concluded would have been foolhardy.",
">\n\n\nThe call is not enough without a preponderance of evidence attesting to Trump's mental state at the time\n\nEvidence of Trump's mental state? Like wtf? There's no reason to suspect Trump wasn't of sound mind when he made that call, why would the prosecution need to gather evidence regarding his mental state? \nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call. Especially when paired with all the publicly avaliable Trump's unproven claims of stolen elections - as if the context of a incumbent struggling for a second term and abusing his presudential position to influence election officials wasn't enough already. On top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \nSo either we're gonna keep making excuses why an attempt to overturn American democracy has gone unpunished, or it's time to finally face the fact that Trump is above the law, and unless the American public actively demands justice, nothings going to be done, and Trump won't live to see the inside of a courthouse, much less a conviction.",
">\n\n\nAll the evidence prosecution needed are right there in that phone call.\n\nWhere did you go to law school? \nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent. It is the prosecution's burden of proof to demonstrate that Trump meant \"feloniously fabricate 11,780 votes that don't exist,\" when technically his words said \"my sources tell me that thousands of my votes were illegally discarded and thousands of Biden votes were illegally created, so I need you to investigate until you find enough of these fraudulent votes, at least 11,780, to show that the election was stolen from me.\" \nOf course we all know what he really meant. But the law is very literal, and the prosecution is required to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he meant something different from what he said. If anyone on that jury suspects that Trump really believed there was ballot-stuffing in Georgia, then the prosecution fails to prove criminal intent, and therefore he cannot be convicted of solicitation of election fraud. \nI wouldn't want to be the prosecutor who has to prove Donald J. Trump didn't believe a conspiracy theory that served his ego. \n\nOn top of all that, any further evidence they might have needed could've easily been gathered in the past two years. \n\nAnd that is exactly what they have been doing. There have been grand juries examining evidence, gathering testimony and communications records from various election officials, lawmakers, people in Trump's orbit, etc., and, considering the timing of their recent conclusion, I presume they have also been examining the House Committee hearings, which make the strongest case so far that Trump knew he lost Georgia. I believe they are also looking at crimes beyond the phone call, related to fraud, intimidation, etc. \n\nwe're gonna keep making excuses \n\nNobody is making excuses to not prosecute Trump. I am explaining the legal steps they have been taking to prosecute him. \nEverything Georgia has been doing signals that they are serious about building a strong case to prosecute Trump and, probably, others in his orbit. You don't impanel grand juries and subpoena congressmen and presidential advisors just for funsies. \nNote that I'm not saying they definitely will indict, and I'm not saying \"the walls are closing in, it's really gonna happen this time.\" There is still a possibility that that the Grand Jury has concluded \"it's obvious Trump is guilty as fuck, but the evidence is ambiguous/circumstantial enough that it may not be possible to secure a conviction under the law as it is written. Given what we know, and what legal scholars have argued in various articles, I think it's more likely they will move forward with indictments. \nApparently under Georgia law, the next step is to impanel another Grand Jury with indictment powers. I don't know how long that process takes. Again, I'm not saying that Georgia will definitely indict: I don't have enough information to make this claim. But I am saying that they have done everything possible to get this case to third base with the bases loaded and a strong hitter at bat, so suggesting they are not serious about trying to hold Trump accountable is verifiably incorrect.",
">\n\n\nThe Georgia law re: criminal solicitation of election fraud requires proof of intent\n\nWhen did I say that prosecutors should not bother proving Trump had an intent to falsy election results? And why did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent? Maybe because you realized your original post made no sense?\n\nThere have been grand juries examining evidence\n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nwhy did you suddenly switch from taking about Trump's 'mental state' to discussing his intent?\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent. In this case, it is crucial for the prosecution to prove that Trump's state of mind, at the time of the phone call, was the felonious intention to willfully solicit a fabricated vote count. \n\nJan 6th commite has also conducted an investigation into a much more complicated matter. It resulted in a criminal referral. Two years after the fact. So I think my comment still stands, Trump won't live to see the inside of a courtroom.\n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. The House Committee has reached a conclusion that Trump could be charged with at least 4 crimes, and has released all their evidence. The Georgia grand jury has reached a conclusion that has not yet been released, but I think it's likely it has gathered enough to justify criminal state level indictments. \nI'm not going to say that indictments are definitely imminent, but the conclusions of these two major investigations suggest that we are significantly closer to, not farther from, the likelihood of seeing Trump in a courtroom.",
">\n\n\nThese are both the same thing. A defendant's \"mental state\" is a legal term for establishing (among other things), whether the defendant had criminal intent.\n\nThat's my mistake then, you were using such a broad term, I had no idea you wers referring to actual intent. I really didn't expect anyone would quest Trump's intent considering its blatantly obvious from the contents of his phone call, especially in the context of all his public statements regarding unbased claims of stolen elections. \nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering without even an indicement, yet here we are. \n\nThe DOJ, the House Committee, and the Georgia AG have been working overtime for 2 years to gather a preponderance of evidence that Trump (and his cronies) behaved criminally in various ways. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \nI'll add that it's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months after Trump organized a coup to overthrow the US government. \nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\nIt took all this time and effort just to reach a conclusion that Trump 'could be charged'.\nThat would be so completely laughable if the continuation of democracy itself wasn't in question.",
">\n\n\nWith so many evidence avaliable it certainly doesn't seem like a case that would require over two years of evidence gathering \n\nThe evidence is available because of the two years of evidence gathering. \nA lot of that time involves the legal battles of procuring the evidence in the first place. For example the Georgia grand jury issued a subpoena to Senator Lindsey Graham in early July, and he fought it all the way up to the Supreme Court, which denied his appeal, and he finally had to testify in late November. So he was able to delay for almost half a year, and in the meantime Georgia prosecutors had to prepare and defend their subpoena in court every step of the way. Practically every bit of evidence takes extensive preparation to justify demanding it, then to negotiate and/or battle over how much they can legally demand, when and how the evidence will be provided, and under what limitations. Trump and his cronies are notorious for gumming up the process in appeals which delay every step by months or years. \nMy understanding is that the Georgia grand jury looked at far more than just Trump and a single phone call. They were looking at \"a multi-state, coordinated plan by the Trump Campaign to influence the results of the November 2020 election in Georgia and elsewhere.\" The phone call was one piece of the puzzle, but there were other phone calls by Trump and his allies, false statements made by the Trump campaign in Georgia legislative meetings, several people signing fake elector certificates, attempts to pressure/intimidate election workers, breaches of election equipment, etc. That's a lot. It takes time. Two years is actually pretty fast for something of this magnitude. \n\nAnd that's amounted to nothing at all so far. Again, not even an indicement. \n\nSo far. The DOJ case is the largest and most widespread investigation in DOJ history, with the largest number of defendants of any criminal investigation. This takes time. \n\nit's entirely bizzare that a special house commite had to be formed just to conduct an investigation that DoJ could've conducted in the first six months\n\nThe DOJ was investigating during the first six months. In the first six months the DOJ identified, arrested, and charged hundreds of people who stormed the Capitol. In the meantime they were raiding Giuliani's house and confiscating phones and devices from him and other Trump lawyers and advisors. In the meantime they were preparing Seditious Conspiracy prosecutions for Proud Boys. In the meantime they were building up justification to raid Mar a Lago, and then fighting in court to get access to the documents they confiscated. In the meantime they were fighting in court to enforce subpoenas and to overcome executive privilege claims that were obstructing their investigation. \nThe DOJ has limited resources and only so many prosecutors to go around. Reportedly the DOJ has had to \"borrow\" state prosecutors just to keep up with the massive amount of work this investigation requires. So it's a good thing the House Committee conducted their own investigation, as it procured shitloads of evidence and testimony that the DOJ didn't have to devote resources to. And now that the DOJ has the House report, they have a new batch of leads to follow, which is evident from the new round of subpoenas Smith issued in the last few weeks. \n\nYet, two years after the fact, countless evidence were gathered all pointing to an unmistakable conclusion that was apparent from the very start, Trump perposefuly organized a coup, lied about election fraud and tried to falsfy election results.\n\nIf you think building a case of this magnitude should be quick, I don't know what to tell you. I've tried to give you a sense of the monumental amount of work involved, and the monumental amount of work that it takes to prepare and battle each and every step of the overall monumental work. The fact that it's only been two years and several of these investigations are already concluding and appear to be on the cusp of indictments, is actually pretty fast, when you consider the massive number of people and the wide range of alleged crimes involved.",
">\n\nWho knows but lets go already!!",
">\n\nIt'll be like smashing a champagne bottle against his thick skull.",
">\n\nSatisfyingly squelchy?",
">\n\nShe needs to hire heavy security if she does, given how unhinged his fanclub is.",
">\n\nThat’s what worries me. And not just her— basically anyone who goes after or even speaks out against Trump. I’d be scared to sleep at night or go pretty much anywhere…",
">\n\nTreat them as terrorists. Instant death.",
">\n\nWhen it comes to Trump, the word indictment has lost all meaning. Impeachment, criminal, fraud, President…All lost their meaning. \nPansy ass America is what we are, letting these criminals run unchecked",
">\n\n\nPansy ass America is what we are, letting these criminals run unchecked\n\nFor a bunch of people who want to let criminals run unchecked, rhe DOJ, Georgia, and the House Committee have been mounting some pretty damn huge and aggressive investigations. It's almost as if they're working their asses off so they can stop these criminals from running unchecked.",
">\n\nYes, next question.\nI may be biased in my opinion, because I voted for Fani Willis to be my county's DA.",
">\n\n*bated",
">\n\nI hope so. He needs to be taken down.",
">\n\nCould be, might be, possible, soon, never, lol yeah right. \nMoney in mouth, but it’s cheap talk and what not.",
">\n\nHe’s in so much trouble! Article #1,980,420."
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