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I see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.
But he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig"
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Honestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult"
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And when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over"
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Voldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.
Why would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall"
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For an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?"
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Looks at Dementor attack near the house.
Looks at the attack on the wedding.
Oh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?
Uh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?"
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Dementor attack was all by that pink bitch
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family."
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Well the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch"
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Harry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly."
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Due to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys"
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Killing your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5."
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He also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle."
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Really, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days..."
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Doesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts."
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Did the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?"
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Fuck me I'm snorted to this.
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?",
">\n\nDid the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?"
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Are you serious? His mom placed a powerful protection spell on the Dursley's house that didn't expire until he turned 17, they literally explained this in the book.
Also, the dementors that attacked him during the summer in book 4.
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?",
">\n\nDid the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?",
">\n\nFuck me I'm snorted to this."
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You mean Dumbledore did, and it was book 5 not 4 the dementors came in the summer.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?",
">\n\nDid the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?",
">\n\nFuck me I'm snorted to this.",
">\n\nAre you serious? His mom placed a powerful protection spell on the Dursley's house that didn't expire until he turned 17, they literally explained this in the book.\nAlso, the dementors that attacked him during the summer in book 4."
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Harry is protected by a powerful spell, cast by Dumbledore himself, while living at the Dursley’s
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?",
">\n\nDid the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?",
">\n\nFuck me I'm snorted to this.",
">\n\nAre you serious? His mom placed a powerful protection spell on the Dursley's house that didn't expire until he turned 17, they literally explained this in the book.\nAlso, the dementors that attacked him during the summer in book 4.",
">\n\nYou mean Dumbledore did, and it was book 5 not 4 the dementors came in the summer."
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?",
">\n\nDid the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?",
">\n\nFuck me I'm snorted to this.",
">\n\nAre you serious? His mom placed a powerful protection spell on the Dursley's house that didn't expire until he turned 17, they literally explained this in the book.\nAlso, the dementors that attacked him during the summer in book 4.",
">\n\nYou mean Dumbledore did, and it was book 5 not 4 the dementors came in the summer.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by a powerful spell, cast by Dumbledore himself, while living at the Dursley’s"
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?",
">\n\nDid the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?",
">\n\nFuck me I'm snorted to this.",
">\n\nAre you serious? His mom placed a powerful protection spell on the Dursley's house that didn't expire until he turned 17, they literally explained this in the book.\nAlso, the dementors that attacked him during the summer in book 4.",
">\n\nYou mean Dumbledore did, and it was book 5 not 4 the dementors came in the summer.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by a powerful spell, cast by Dumbledore himself, while living at the Dursley’s",
">\n\nCast by *his mother's sacrifice"
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This is such a good shower thought hahaha. Thanks for sharing :)
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?",
">\n\nDid the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?",
">\n\nFuck me I'm snorted to this.",
">\n\nAre you serious? His mom placed a powerful protection spell on the Dursley's house that didn't expire until he turned 17, they literally explained this in the book.\nAlso, the dementors that attacked him during the summer in book 4.",
">\n\nYou mean Dumbledore did, and it was book 5 not 4 the dementors came in the summer.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by a powerful spell, cast by Dumbledore himself, while living at the Dursley’s",
">\n\nCast by *his mother's sacrifice",
">\n\nBoth, actually."
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He could easily throw a punch at Harry but must be useless so tries to use his wand.
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?",
">\n\nDid the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?",
">\n\nFuck me I'm snorted to this.",
">\n\nAre you serious? His mom placed a powerful protection spell on the Dursley's house that didn't expire until he turned 17, they literally explained this in the book.\nAlso, the dementors that attacked him during the summer in book 4.",
">\n\nYou mean Dumbledore did, and it was book 5 not 4 the dementors came in the summer.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by a powerful spell, cast by Dumbledore himself, while living at the Dursley’s",
">\n\nCast by *his mother's sacrifice",
">\n\nBoth, actually.",
">\n\nThis is such a good shower thought hahaha. Thanks for sharing :)"
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It was just his job guys. If your job was supervillain why wouldn't you pick your arch nemesis as a school kid?
They're dumb, weak, have summers off
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?",
">\n\nDid the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?",
">\n\nFuck me I'm snorted to this.",
">\n\nAre you serious? His mom placed a powerful protection spell on the Dursley's house that didn't expire until he turned 17, they literally explained this in the book.\nAlso, the dementors that attacked him during the summer in book 4.",
">\n\nYou mean Dumbledore did, and it was book 5 not 4 the dementors came in the summer.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by a powerful spell, cast by Dumbledore himself, while living at the Dursley’s",
">\n\nCast by *his mother's sacrifice",
">\n\nBoth, actually.",
">\n\nThis is such a good shower thought hahaha. Thanks for sharing :)",
">\n\nHe could easily throw a punch at Harry but must be useless so tries to use his wand."
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There is a powerful spell around the dursleys home that protects Harry
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?",
">\n\nDid the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?",
">\n\nFuck me I'm snorted to this.",
">\n\nAre you serious? His mom placed a powerful protection spell on the Dursley's house that didn't expire until he turned 17, they literally explained this in the book.\nAlso, the dementors that attacked him during the summer in book 4.",
">\n\nYou mean Dumbledore did, and it was book 5 not 4 the dementors came in the summer.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by a powerful spell, cast by Dumbledore himself, while living at the Dursley’s",
">\n\nCast by *his mother's sacrifice",
">\n\nBoth, actually.",
">\n\nThis is such a good shower thought hahaha. Thanks for sharing :)",
">\n\nHe could easily throw a punch at Harry but must be useless so tries to use his wand.",
">\n\nIt was just his job guys. If your job was supervillain why wouldn't you pick your arch nemesis as a school kid?\nThey're dumb, weak, have summers off"
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oh. my. god. as a book reader this is my biggest pet peeve when everyone jumps on the dumbeldore hate train because he places harry with his uncle and aunt. LILYS SACRIFICE WAS BLOOD MAGIC. nobody including voldemort physically could not attack harry while he was in the residence of his mothers blood
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?",
">\n\nDid the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?",
">\n\nFuck me I'm snorted to this.",
">\n\nAre you serious? His mom placed a powerful protection spell on the Dursley's house that didn't expire until he turned 17, they literally explained this in the book.\nAlso, the dementors that attacked him during the summer in book 4.",
">\n\nYou mean Dumbledore did, and it was book 5 not 4 the dementors came in the summer.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by a powerful spell, cast by Dumbledore himself, while living at the Dursley’s",
">\n\nCast by *his mother's sacrifice",
">\n\nBoth, actually.",
">\n\nThis is such a good shower thought hahaha. Thanks for sharing :)",
">\n\nHe could easily throw a punch at Harry but must be useless so tries to use his wand.",
">\n\nIt was just his job guys. If your job was supervillain why wouldn't you pick your arch nemesis as a school kid?\nThey're dumb, weak, have summers off",
">\n\nThere is a powerful spell around the dursleys home that protects Harry"
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No. They couldn't touch him there because dumbledore used the elder wand to make the protection spell. Lilys magic was only effective against voldermort. Other death eaters were unaffected.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?",
">\n\nDid the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?",
">\n\nFuck me I'm snorted to this.",
">\n\nAre you serious? His mom placed a powerful protection spell on the Dursley's house that didn't expire until he turned 17, they literally explained this in the book.\nAlso, the dementors that attacked him during the summer in book 4.",
">\n\nYou mean Dumbledore did, and it was book 5 not 4 the dementors came in the summer.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by a powerful spell, cast by Dumbledore himself, while living at the Dursley’s",
">\n\nCast by *his mother's sacrifice",
">\n\nBoth, actually.",
">\n\nThis is such a good shower thought hahaha. Thanks for sharing :)",
">\n\nHe could easily throw a punch at Harry but must be useless so tries to use his wand.",
">\n\nIt was just his job guys. If your job was supervillain why wouldn't you pick your arch nemesis as a school kid?\nThey're dumb, weak, have summers off",
">\n\nThere is a powerful spell around the dursleys home that protects Harry",
">\n\noh. my. god. as a book reader this is my biggest pet peeve when everyone jumps on the dumbeldore hate train because he places harry with his uncle and aunt. LILYS SACRIFICE WAS BLOOD MAGIC. nobody including voldemort physically could not attack harry while he was in the residence of his mothers blood"
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i dont think the elder wand has anything to do with the strength of Dumbledores charms and wards. It is a wand made for winning duels, not defending other people. Although the Elder Wand obviously made Dumbledore stronger, he was already an extremely competent wizard and had to be in order to win the wand.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?",
">\n\nDid the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?",
">\n\nFuck me I'm snorted to this.",
">\n\nAre you serious? His mom placed a powerful protection spell on the Dursley's house that didn't expire until he turned 17, they literally explained this in the book.\nAlso, the dementors that attacked him during the summer in book 4.",
">\n\nYou mean Dumbledore did, and it was book 5 not 4 the dementors came in the summer.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by a powerful spell, cast by Dumbledore himself, while living at the Dursley’s",
">\n\nCast by *his mother's sacrifice",
">\n\nBoth, actually.",
">\n\nThis is such a good shower thought hahaha. Thanks for sharing :)",
">\n\nHe could easily throw a punch at Harry but must be useless so tries to use his wand.",
">\n\nIt was just his job guys. If your job was supervillain why wouldn't you pick your arch nemesis as a school kid?\nThey're dumb, weak, have summers off",
">\n\nThere is a powerful spell around the dursleys home that protects Harry",
">\n\noh. my. god. as a book reader this is my biggest pet peeve when everyone jumps on the dumbeldore hate train because he places harry with his uncle and aunt. LILYS SACRIFICE WAS BLOOD MAGIC. nobody including voldemort physically could not attack harry while he was in the residence of his mothers blood",
">\n\nNo. They couldn't touch him there because dumbledore used the elder wand to make the protection spell. Lilys magic was only effective against voldermort. Other death eaters were unaffected."
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Maybe its like Buffy and evil takes a break during the summer.
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?",
">\n\nDid the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?",
">\n\nFuck me I'm snorted to this.",
">\n\nAre you serious? His mom placed a powerful protection spell on the Dursley's house that didn't expire until he turned 17, they literally explained this in the book.\nAlso, the dementors that attacked him during the summer in book 4.",
">\n\nYou mean Dumbledore did, and it was book 5 not 4 the dementors came in the summer.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by a powerful spell, cast by Dumbledore himself, while living at the Dursley’s",
">\n\nCast by *his mother's sacrifice",
">\n\nBoth, actually.",
">\n\nThis is such a good shower thought hahaha. Thanks for sharing :)",
">\n\nHe could easily throw a punch at Harry but must be useless so tries to use his wand.",
">\n\nIt was just his job guys. If your job was supervillain why wouldn't you pick your arch nemesis as a school kid?\nThey're dumb, weak, have summers off",
">\n\nThere is a powerful spell around the dursleys home that protects Harry",
">\n\noh. my. god. as a book reader this is my biggest pet peeve when everyone jumps on the dumbeldore hate train because he places harry with his uncle and aunt. LILYS SACRIFICE WAS BLOOD MAGIC. nobody including voldemort physically could not attack harry while he was in the residence of his mothers blood",
">\n\nNo. They couldn't touch him there because dumbledore used the elder wand to make the protection spell. Lilys magic was only effective against voldermort. Other death eaters were unaffected.",
">\n\ni dont think the elder wand has anything to do with the strength of Dumbledores charms and wards. It is a wand made for winning duels, not defending other people. Although the Elder Wand obviously made Dumbledore stronger, he was already an extremely competent wizard and had to be in order to win the wand."
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Voldemort bringing Nagini to the final battle was a bro move
Snakes are good at fighting wizards, right? If they are good, then he should have recruited a lot more snakes.
Volemort should have put Nagini where the locket was hidden. There's no way Harry is finding him there.
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?",
">\n\nDid the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?",
">\n\nFuck me I'm snorted to this.",
">\n\nAre you serious? His mom placed a powerful protection spell on the Dursley's house that didn't expire until he turned 17, they literally explained this in the book.\nAlso, the dementors that attacked him during the summer in book 4.",
">\n\nYou mean Dumbledore did, and it was book 5 not 4 the dementors came in the summer.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by a powerful spell, cast by Dumbledore himself, while living at the Dursley’s",
">\n\nCast by *his mother's sacrifice",
">\n\nBoth, actually.",
">\n\nThis is such a good shower thought hahaha. Thanks for sharing :)",
">\n\nHe could easily throw a punch at Harry but must be useless so tries to use his wand.",
">\n\nIt was just his job guys. If your job was supervillain why wouldn't you pick your arch nemesis as a school kid?\nThey're dumb, weak, have summers off",
">\n\nThere is a powerful spell around the dursleys home that protects Harry",
">\n\noh. my. god. as a book reader this is my biggest pet peeve when everyone jumps on the dumbeldore hate train because he places harry with his uncle and aunt. LILYS SACRIFICE WAS BLOOD MAGIC. nobody including voldemort physically could not attack harry while he was in the residence of his mothers blood",
">\n\nNo. They couldn't touch him there because dumbledore used the elder wand to make the protection spell. Lilys magic was only effective against voldermort. Other death eaters were unaffected.",
">\n\ni dont think the elder wand has anything to do with the strength of Dumbledores charms and wards. It is a wand made for winning duels, not defending other people. Although the Elder Wand obviously made Dumbledore stronger, he was already an extremely competent wizard and had to be in order to win the wand.",
">\n\nMaybe its like Buffy and evil takes a break during the summer."
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School, esp hogwarts was a bitch to everyone. He only wanted to homeschool harry, #alternativefacts
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?",
">\n\nDid the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?",
">\n\nFuck me I'm snorted to this.",
">\n\nAre you serious? His mom placed a powerful protection spell on the Dursley's house that didn't expire until he turned 17, they literally explained this in the book.\nAlso, the dementors that attacked him during the summer in book 4.",
">\n\nYou mean Dumbledore did, and it was book 5 not 4 the dementors came in the summer.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by a powerful spell, cast by Dumbledore himself, while living at the Dursley’s",
">\n\nCast by *his mother's sacrifice",
">\n\nBoth, actually.",
">\n\nThis is such a good shower thought hahaha. Thanks for sharing :)",
">\n\nHe could easily throw a punch at Harry but must be useless so tries to use his wand.",
">\n\nIt was just his job guys. If your job was supervillain why wouldn't you pick your arch nemesis as a school kid?\nThey're dumb, weak, have summers off",
">\n\nThere is a powerful spell around the dursleys home that protects Harry",
">\n\noh. my. god. as a book reader this is my biggest pet peeve when everyone jumps on the dumbeldore hate train because he places harry with his uncle and aunt. LILYS SACRIFICE WAS BLOOD MAGIC. nobody including voldemort physically could not attack harry while he was in the residence of his mothers blood",
">\n\nNo. They couldn't touch him there because dumbledore used the elder wand to make the protection spell. Lilys magic was only effective against voldermort. Other death eaters were unaffected.",
">\n\ni dont think the elder wand has anything to do with the strength of Dumbledores charms and wards. It is a wand made for winning duels, not defending other people. Although the Elder Wand obviously made Dumbledore stronger, he was already an extremely competent wizard and had to be in order to win the wand.",
">\n\nMaybe its like Buffy and evil takes a break during the summer.",
">\n\nVoldemort bringing Nagini to the final battle was a bro move\nSnakes are good at fighting wizards, right? If they are good, then he should have recruited a lot more snakes.\nVolemort should have put Nagini where the locket was hidden. There's no way Harry is finding him there."
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Why not just have snape do the swearing curse to kill Harry instead of Dumbledor? Isn't Harry the real threat and doesn't Snape have so much opportunity to kill Harry that people assumed he was trying to at one point?
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?",
">\n\nDid the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?",
">\n\nFuck me I'm snorted to this.",
">\n\nAre you serious? His mom placed a powerful protection spell on the Dursley's house that didn't expire until he turned 17, they literally explained this in the book.\nAlso, the dementors that attacked him during the summer in book 4.",
">\n\nYou mean Dumbledore did, and it was book 5 not 4 the dementors came in the summer.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by a powerful spell, cast by Dumbledore himself, while living at the Dursley’s",
">\n\nCast by *his mother's sacrifice",
">\n\nBoth, actually.",
">\n\nThis is such a good shower thought hahaha. Thanks for sharing :)",
">\n\nHe could easily throw a punch at Harry but must be useless so tries to use his wand.",
">\n\nIt was just his job guys. If your job was supervillain why wouldn't you pick your arch nemesis as a school kid?\nThey're dumb, weak, have summers off",
">\n\nThere is a powerful spell around the dursleys home that protects Harry",
">\n\noh. my. god. as a book reader this is my biggest pet peeve when everyone jumps on the dumbeldore hate train because he places harry with his uncle and aunt. LILYS SACRIFICE WAS BLOOD MAGIC. nobody including voldemort physically could not attack harry while he was in the residence of his mothers blood",
">\n\nNo. They couldn't touch him there because dumbledore used the elder wand to make the protection spell. Lilys magic was only effective against voldermort. Other death eaters were unaffected.",
">\n\ni dont think the elder wand has anything to do with the strength of Dumbledores charms and wards. It is a wand made for winning duels, not defending other people. Although the Elder Wand obviously made Dumbledore stronger, he was already an extremely competent wizard and had to be in order to win the wand.",
">\n\nMaybe its like Buffy and evil takes a break during the summer.",
">\n\nVoldemort bringing Nagini to the final battle was a bro move\nSnakes are good at fighting wizards, right? If they are good, then he should have recruited a lot more snakes.\nVolemort should have put Nagini where the locket was hidden. There's no way Harry is finding him there.",
">\n\nSchool, esp hogwarts was a bitch to everyone. He only wanted to homeschool harry, #alternativefacts"
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Because Voldemort had to kill Harry.
It was part of the prophecy.
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?",
">\n\nDid the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?",
">\n\nFuck me I'm snorted to this.",
">\n\nAre you serious? His mom placed a powerful protection spell on the Dursley's house that didn't expire until he turned 17, they literally explained this in the book.\nAlso, the dementors that attacked him during the summer in book 4.",
">\n\nYou mean Dumbledore did, and it was book 5 not 4 the dementors came in the summer.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by a powerful spell, cast by Dumbledore himself, while living at the Dursley’s",
">\n\nCast by *his mother's sacrifice",
">\n\nBoth, actually.",
">\n\nThis is such a good shower thought hahaha. Thanks for sharing :)",
">\n\nHe could easily throw a punch at Harry but must be useless so tries to use his wand.",
">\n\nIt was just his job guys. If your job was supervillain why wouldn't you pick your arch nemesis as a school kid?\nThey're dumb, weak, have summers off",
">\n\nThere is a powerful spell around the dursleys home that protects Harry",
">\n\noh. my. god. as a book reader this is my biggest pet peeve when everyone jumps on the dumbeldore hate train because he places harry with his uncle and aunt. LILYS SACRIFICE WAS BLOOD MAGIC. nobody including voldemort physically could not attack harry while he was in the residence of his mothers blood",
">\n\nNo. They couldn't touch him there because dumbledore used the elder wand to make the protection spell. Lilys magic was only effective against voldermort. Other death eaters were unaffected.",
">\n\ni dont think the elder wand has anything to do with the strength of Dumbledores charms and wards. It is a wand made for winning duels, not defending other people. Although the Elder Wand obviously made Dumbledore stronger, he was already an extremely competent wizard and had to be in order to win the wand.",
">\n\nMaybe its like Buffy and evil takes a break during the summer.",
">\n\nVoldemort bringing Nagini to the final battle was a bro move\nSnakes are good at fighting wizards, right? If they are good, then he should have recruited a lot more snakes.\nVolemort should have put Nagini where the locket was hidden. There's no way Harry is finding him there.",
">\n\nSchool, esp hogwarts was a bitch to everyone. He only wanted to homeschool harry, #alternativefacts",
">\n\nWhy not just have snape do the swearing curse to kill Harry instead of Dumbledor? Isn't Harry the real threat and doesn't Snape have so much opportunity to kill Harry that people assumed he was trying to at one point?"
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But why not try? It seems odd to not make the attempt just because a prophecy says you won't.
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?",
">\n\nDid the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?",
">\n\nFuck me I'm snorted to this.",
">\n\nAre you serious? His mom placed a powerful protection spell on the Dursley's house that didn't expire until he turned 17, they literally explained this in the book.\nAlso, the dementors that attacked him during the summer in book 4.",
">\n\nYou mean Dumbledore did, and it was book 5 not 4 the dementors came in the summer.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by a powerful spell, cast by Dumbledore himself, while living at the Dursley’s",
">\n\nCast by *his mother's sacrifice",
">\n\nBoth, actually.",
">\n\nThis is such a good shower thought hahaha. Thanks for sharing :)",
">\n\nHe could easily throw a punch at Harry but must be useless so tries to use his wand.",
">\n\nIt was just his job guys. If your job was supervillain why wouldn't you pick your arch nemesis as a school kid?\nThey're dumb, weak, have summers off",
">\n\nThere is a powerful spell around the dursleys home that protects Harry",
">\n\noh. my. god. as a book reader this is my biggest pet peeve when everyone jumps on the dumbeldore hate train because he places harry with his uncle and aunt. LILYS SACRIFICE WAS BLOOD MAGIC. nobody including voldemort physically could not attack harry while he was in the residence of his mothers blood",
">\n\nNo. They couldn't touch him there because dumbledore used the elder wand to make the protection spell. Lilys magic was only effective against voldermort. Other death eaters were unaffected.",
">\n\ni dont think the elder wand has anything to do with the strength of Dumbledores charms and wards. It is a wand made for winning duels, not defending other people. Although the Elder Wand obviously made Dumbledore stronger, he was already an extremely competent wizard and had to be in order to win the wand.",
">\n\nMaybe its like Buffy and evil takes a break during the summer.",
">\n\nVoldemort bringing Nagini to the final battle was a bro move\nSnakes are good at fighting wizards, right? If they are good, then he should have recruited a lot more snakes.\nVolemort should have put Nagini where the locket was hidden. There's no way Harry is finding him there.",
">\n\nSchool, esp hogwarts was a bitch to everyone. He only wanted to homeschool harry, #alternativefacts",
">\n\nWhy not just have snape do the swearing curse to kill Harry instead of Dumbledor? Isn't Harry the real threat and doesn't Snape have so much opportunity to kill Harry that people assumed he was trying to at one point?",
">\n\nBecause Voldemort had to kill Harry.\nIt was part of the prophecy."
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Nah, he's like the dog and Wile-E-Coyote. He's off during school breaks, and clocks in when school is back in session.
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?",
">\n\nDid the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?",
">\n\nFuck me I'm snorted to this.",
">\n\nAre you serious? His mom placed a powerful protection spell on the Dursley's house that didn't expire until he turned 17, they literally explained this in the book.\nAlso, the dementors that attacked him during the summer in book 4.",
">\n\nYou mean Dumbledore did, and it was book 5 not 4 the dementors came in the summer.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by a powerful spell, cast by Dumbledore himself, while living at the Dursley’s",
">\n\nCast by *his mother's sacrifice",
">\n\nBoth, actually.",
">\n\nThis is such a good shower thought hahaha. Thanks for sharing :)",
">\n\nHe could easily throw a punch at Harry but must be useless so tries to use his wand.",
">\n\nIt was just his job guys. If your job was supervillain why wouldn't you pick your arch nemesis as a school kid?\nThey're dumb, weak, have summers off",
">\n\nThere is a powerful spell around the dursleys home that protects Harry",
">\n\noh. my. god. as a book reader this is my biggest pet peeve when everyone jumps on the dumbeldore hate train because he places harry with his uncle and aunt. LILYS SACRIFICE WAS BLOOD MAGIC. nobody including voldemort physically could not attack harry while he was in the residence of his mothers blood",
">\n\nNo. They couldn't touch him there because dumbledore used the elder wand to make the protection spell. Lilys magic was only effective against voldermort. Other death eaters were unaffected.",
">\n\ni dont think the elder wand has anything to do with the strength of Dumbledores charms and wards. It is a wand made for winning duels, not defending other people. Although the Elder Wand obviously made Dumbledore stronger, he was already an extremely competent wizard and had to be in order to win the wand.",
">\n\nMaybe its like Buffy and evil takes a break during the summer.",
">\n\nVoldemort bringing Nagini to the final battle was a bro move\nSnakes are good at fighting wizards, right? If they are good, then he should have recruited a lot more snakes.\nVolemort should have put Nagini where the locket was hidden. There's no way Harry is finding him there.",
">\n\nSchool, esp hogwarts was a bitch to everyone. He only wanted to homeschool harry, #alternativefacts",
">\n\nWhy not just have snape do the swearing curse to kill Harry instead of Dumbledor? Isn't Harry the real threat and doesn't Snape have so much opportunity to kill Harry that people assumed he was trying to at one point?",
">\n\nBecause Voldemort had to kill Harry.\nIt was part of the prophecy.",
">\n\nBut why not try? It seems odd to not make the attempt just because a prophecy says you won't."
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Not much point in shooting up your high school during summer vacation.
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?",
">\n\nDid the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?",
">\n\nFuck me I'm snorted to this.",
">\n\nAre you serious? His mom placed a powerful protection spell on the Dursley's house that didn't expire until he turned 17, they literally explained this in the book.\nAlso, the dementors that attacked him during the summer in book 4.",
">\n\nYou mean Dumbledore did, and it was book 5 not 4 the dementors came in the summer.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by a powerful spell, cast by Dumbledore himself, while living at the Dursley’s",
">\n\nCast by *his mother's sacrifice",
">\n\nBoth, actually.",
">\n\nThis is such a good shower thought hahaha. Thanks for sharing :)",
">\n\nHe could easily throw a punch at Harry but must be useless so tries to use his wand.",
">\n\nIt was just his job guys. If your job was supervillain why wouldn't you pick your arch nemesis as a school kid?\nThey're dumb, weak, have summers off",
">\n\nThere is a powerful spell around the dursleys home that protects Harry",
">\n\noh. my. god. as a book reader this is my biggest pet peeve when everyone jumps on the dumbeldore hate train because he places harry with his uncle and aunt. LILYS SACRIFICE WAS BLOOD MAGIC. nobody including voldemort physically could not attack harry while he was in the residence of his mothers blood",
">\n\nNo. They couldn't touch him there because dumbledore used the elder wand to make the protection spell. Lilys magic was only effective against voldermort. Other death eaters were unaffected.",
">\n\ni dont think the elder wand has anything to do with the strength of Dumbledores charms and wards. It is a wand made for winning duels, not defending other people. Although the Elder Wand obviously made Dumbledore stronger, he was already an extremely competent wizard and had to be in order to win the wand.",
">\n\nMaybe its like Buffy and evil takes a break during the summer.",
">\n\nVoldemort bringing Nagini to the final battle was a bro move\nSnakes are good at fighting wizards, right? If they are good, then he should have recruited a lot more snakes.\nVolemort should have put Nagini where the locket was hidden. There's no way Harry is finding him there.",
">\n\nSchool, esp hogwarts was a bitch to everyone. He only wanted to homeschool harry, #alternativefacts",
">\n\nWhy not just have snape do the swearing curse to kill Harry instead of Dumbledor? Isn't Harry the real threat and doesn't Snape have so much opportunity to kill Harry that people assumed he was trying to at one point?",
">\n\nBecause Voldemort had to kill Harry.\nIt was part of the prophecy.",
">\n\nBut why not try? It seems odd to not make the attempt just because a prophecy says you won't.",
">\n\nNah, he's like the dog and Wile-E-Coyote. He's off during school breaks, and clocks in when school is back in session."
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">\n\ni saw some meme compare him to a teenage girl, obsessed with teenage boys, has a diary, a favorite ring and necklace, a pet he adores and an obsession with a famous teenage boy",
">\n\nDont forget the pretty tiara! (Diadem)",
">\n\nDon’t forget the obsession with teenage boys",
">\n\n\nBut I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient magic ... I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection...a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...She took you, and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I could give you ...\n While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, whilst you are there he cannot hurt you.\n\nOrder of the Phoenix",
">\n\nwow you found the actual passage, mad props. as soon as I read the title I was thinking \"no... Voldemort just can't hurt him at the Dursley's house.\"\nbut I absolutely did not remember why. much less would I remember which book it was explained in. I'd have thought it came earlier than this passage.",
">\n\nFunny, I thought it came later when he's hanging with dead Dumbles at angel Kings Cross station",
">\n\nI haven't read the books or seen the movies in forever, so I could be 100% wrong. \nBut if he doesn't know where Harry lives, the school year is the only time when he has a reasonable idea of where Harry will be. That's why all the shit starts kicking off at Hogwarts on Harry's first year.",
">\n\nYeah, the reason Harry has to be at the dursleys is because Dumbledore put some kind of enchantment that made it so he couldn't be found by evil while in his home\nThe enchantment wears off when he comes of age at 18, that's why the big fleeing scene with the polyjuice potion happens.",
">\n\nAnd when he stays at the Weasleys someone usually says how the Ministry gives The Burrow “every possible protection”.\nThis is why deaths eaters can attack the place in the summer immediately when the Ministry falls.",
">\n\nthat terfy bitch really covered her bases. damn her.",
">\n\n\"JK Rowling bad give updoots plz\"",
">\n\nJust because you're tired of hearing it doesn't mean it's invalid. The truth bears repeating.",
">\n\nI honestly don't give a shit I'm just laughing at the people who can't even have a Harry Potter plot discussion without having to flex their hatred of JK Rowling, lmao",
">\n\nJK Rowling is transphobic, my favorite character is Dumbledore",
">\n\nDumbledore was secretly a black gay nazi",
">\n\nNot black. \nMost likely a bit of a nazi for a while. He definitely shared grindelwald’s earliest bigotry before they came to a full confrontation with one another. \nBut. Definitely. Canonically gay—not even a secret. Even before her post-published comments about his gayness and the updates on pottermore, he clearly has a very Achillean relationship with grindelwald that is easily discernible for anyone older than 15 with any experiences falling in love or crushing on someone at all. \nThe only reason this came as a shock when she made it abundantly clear that he is gay is because many younger readers were too inexperienced in love to pick up on it, and others were too homophobic to allow themselves to pick up on the glaringly obvious subtext.\nJKR absolutely sucks for how she’s leveraged her success to limit the rights and happiness of other human beings, many of whom relied on her work as a crutch during times when they felt they had very few people to rely on. The stories she wrote inspire some home in the outcasts, those outcasts took that hope, and now she’s punishing them for it. \nBut as shitty as her transphobia is, that doesn’t mean that the homophobes who hated her Dumbledore arc are suddenly right. She can do one thing right while getting something else horribly wrong. Dumbledore was not a woke inclusion. She is not woke, so he can’t be. He was a gay man with a checkered past who learned to fight for his loved ones rather than stay with an evil lover.",
">\n\nSomething about he was being protected by magic outside of Hogwarts until he turned 17 (adult to wizards). His mother's magic meant that he would be protected by family until he is an adult. This is why he has to stay with his aunt and uncle, whether they know it or not they control the magic that keeps Harry safe. When he leaves private drive, he's usually hidden or under protection. \nVoldemort could've just hired a muggle to walk to private drive and shoot Harry, but Wizards aren't very good at logic.",
">\n\n\nwizards aren't very good at logic\n\nWhich was even mentioned by Hermione during the potions part of the obstacle course to get the Stone in the first book.",
">\n\nMakes sense, when wizards don’t even have primary school education. Somehow I doubt critical thinking and the Socratic method is taught at Hogwarts.",
">\n\nIn contrast, wizards from the school of hard knocks be like",
">\n\nMy guy fought the hardest and still took the biggest L in the end.",
">\n\na book scene that was cut from the films helps explain this\nThe Dursleys are about to kick Harry out, when a howler arrives (from Dumbledore) reminding Petunia Dursley of the pact she swore to keep Harry in her home under the magical protection it had.",
">\n\nHe also waits until the end of the school year to do his BIG thing",
">\n\nHe doesn’t respect Harry’s need for an Education though - in OOTP, he literally acts (using Legilimency to send false visions) while Harry is mid-way through his OWL exam.",
">\n\ntbf, I'm pretty sure Fred and George were far more distracting",
">\n\nMaybe in the movie, but they were long gone by the time OWLs rolled around in the book",
">\n\nor he knows harry has a shitty home life outside of hogwarts",
">\n\nWhich is a parallel between Harry and voldemort that is explored in the 6th book!",
">\n\nAnd the second, when Tom Riddle is introduced and we don’t yet know who he is.",
">\n\nYeah good point! Harry immediately identifies with him",
">\n\nOkay so, when Harry's mom died for him it cast sacrificial protection, meaning harry would live. After and because of this Dumbledore could cast a charm that would keep Harry safe at the dursleys as long as they willingly accepted him into the home, and until he was 17.\nThe only other time he would have been in danger is Christmas book 5 and 6. Book 5 he was at st mungos (not an ideal place to attack nor planned) and then at Grimmauld place which was under the Fidelius charm).\nBook 6 they have no reasoning to not attack and assumingly its explained as not knowing he was at the burrow (or magic hiding etc).\nBook 7 they did attack the burrow during an event they would expect harry to be at.\nIn the films they also attack the burrow in film 6.",
">\n\nOkay but James also died so why didn’t his sacrifice do anything? James was a pure blood meaning he was related to like half of the Wizarding world so Harry could have been safe with any of them.",
">\n\nBecause Petunia is Lily's sister. The Bond of Blood offers protection while living with blood relatives.",
">\n\nThat’s not an answer that’s just touting what the book said. \nJames was pure blood. It’s said multiple times in the books that all pure blood wizarding families are related. Why didn’t James dying for lily and Harry make it safe for any wizarding family he was related to to have him live with them.",
">\n\nJames didn’t have a choice in the matter. Voldemort was going to kill James either way.\nLilly’s sacrifice mattered because Snape had explicitly asked Voldemort to spare her life, and in a bizarre act of charity Voldemort was willing to honour Snape’s request, so long as Lilly stood aside and let him kill her son. Her refusal to do so when she had an out, and refusing to even fight back as Voldemort killed her (unlike James who rushed Voldemort in a desperation play), is what made her sacrifice different to her husband’s.",
">\n\nJames coulda just dipped the second he knew voldy wanted Harry. Lily could have too. \nHonestly that woulda been a better story. James and Lily gave Harry to the Muggle world to hide him from Voldemort.",
">\n\nWhile I would rarely praise JK's aptitude for logic, in this particular case, neither James nor Lilly had their wands on them at the time that Voldemort attacked, so apparating was right out.\n\nBesides which, apparating under stress is implied to be extremely difficult, given the only wizards we've seen able to consistently do it (in the books at least) were Dumbledore and Voldemort.",
">\n\nAlso a better teacher than Dumbledore, he taught Harry manners.",
">\n\n\"Hey Harry I know you're just a teenager and I'm literally responsible for your education but instead of studying for classes I'm taking you out of school to check out some incredibly dangerous situations because I need ~~an unpaid intern with no family or lawyers~~ The Boy Who Lived.",
">\n\nIn all fairness, even with Dumbledoor actively trying to protect the school Harry still winds up killing Voldemort twice in his first two years. Defeats a swarm of Dementors his third year, escapes Voldemort his fourth, and trains and leads his own strike team into the Ministry in his fifth year.\nFrankly, Dumbledoor should have taken Harry under his wing sooner. Clearly this is a kid who is either drawn to danger or draws it (or both). If you can't keep him out of harms way, all you can do is teach him how to survive the fallout.",
">\n\nWhen Harry lives with family he’s under a magical protection so Voldemort can’t get him, that’s the entire reason he keeps going back to them every summer despite how abusive they are.",
">\n\nYes. Plot armor.",
">\n\nThe most unbelievable part of the Harry Potter universe is that all of the kids hate summer and can't wait to go back to school.",
">\n\nI took that to mean that magic is just that fun.",
">\n\nYeah, but when he ran into that wall, it changed his preseption",
">\n\nThat’s mostly because, for half the books, Voldemort didn’t really care much about Harry\nBooks 1-3 had Voldemort either focused on his own plans (1), or wasn’t even present directly (2 and 3)\nBook 4 onwards is when Voldemort tried abducting Harry for the sake of his revival. And he succeeds.\nBook 5 had him attempt to assassinate Harry. That fails\nBy Book 6, Voldemort didn’t even bother trying to attack Harry. Presumably after the failure in 5, he’d decided it’d be better to wait 1 year for the Dursley family protection to expire, and went to do more important evil wizard shit.\nBook 7 was no holds barred pursuit from the get go\nHalf the conflicts were more of Harry stumbling his way into the evil plan, which would much prefer if he wasn’t there",
">\n\nThe true evil of Voldemort is that he managed to fuck with Harry's education, thus making him less competent in peacetime pursuits than his peers. That's way longer lasting a side effect than anything else.",
">\n\nHarry, I suspect, will be able to get by alright on his reputation even if he missed a lesson or two.",
">\n\nNo, wasn’t his house just protected or something? Been a while since I’ve consumed anything Harry Potter related, but I just remember what happened to Hedwig",
">\n\nI see someone didn't read the books. It's a big part of the plot. It's why he has to stay with the dursleys, even when they hate anything related to magic, and mistreat him so much. So many of the wizard families would have been very keen and even honoured to take him in, too.\nBut he was protected from Voldemort by his mother's sacrifice. And as long as he could call the home of his mother's blood relatives as his own home, voldemort or his followers could not have touched him. Dumbledore explains this at the end of the order of the phoenix. Also this is why they do the whole polyjuice potion and 7 Harrys thing when he comes of age. Because the enchantment is broken once you're an adult",
">\n\nHonestly this is just another example of how much stuff the movies glossed over",
">\n\nAnd when he attacked Harry as a baby, his spells failed when he could have easily just yeeted Harry against the wall",
">\n\nVoldemort had no idea Lily's protective magic was there to rebound the Killing Curse.\nWhy would he not use the same method to kill this baby that he's literally killed everyone else with?",
">\n\nFor an analogy, if a serial killer breaks in and kills the whole house with a gun, why wouldn’t he shoot the baby too?",
">\n\nLooks at Dementor attack near the house.\nLooks at the attack on the wedding.\nOh, wasn't there an attack in a diner? Or am I mixing that up with another wizard story?\nUh... huh. Also, apparently Lily's last act of magic created a special protection for Harry when with blood family.",
">\n\nDementor attack was all by that pink bitch",
">\n\nWell the death eaters crashed the quidditch tournament that took place over the summer and then, I forget exactly, but in book 7 Harry and gang had to leave the wedding abruptly.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by his mothers love still when hes at the dursleys",
">\n\nDue to Dumbledore and Lily's last magic: Harry couldn't be touched when he went back to Privet dr. It was a magical warding essentially. He could be harmed by magic while outside the house hence the demetors in book 5.",
">\n\nKilling your own horcrux doesnt sound like a good idea for tom riddle.",
">\n\nHe also bows before a duel like a true Chad. Unlike most gamers these days...",
">\n\nReally, the Dursleys were just so repulsive that the only wizard who could tolerate being around them for more than a minute was Hagrid, who of course had a fondness and compassion for even the foulest of beasts.",
">\n\nDoesn’t he ruin the quidditch Super Bowl? Wasn’t that a vacation?",
">\n\nDid the US version of the books change the Quidditch World Cup to Quidditch Super Bowl?",
">\n\nFuck me I'm snorted to this.",
">\n\nAre you serious? His mom placed a powerful protection spell on the Dursley's house that didn't expire until he turned 17, they literally explained this in the book.\nAlso, the dementors that attacked him during the summer in book 4.",
">\n\nYou mean Dumbledore did, and it was book 5 not 4 the dementors came in the summer.",
">\n\nHarry is protected by a powerful spell, cast by Dumbledore himself, while living at the Dursley’s",
">\n\nCast by *his mother's sacrifice",
">\n\nBoth, actually.",
">\n\nThis is such a good shower thought hahaha. Thanks for sharing :)",
">\n\nHe could easily throw a punch at Harry but must be useless so tries to use his wand.",
">\n\nIt was just his job guys. If your job was supervillain why wouldn't you pick your arch nemesis as a school kid?\nThey're dumb, weak, have summers off",
">\n\nThere is a powerful spell around the dursleys home that protects Harry",
">\n\noh. my. god. as a book reader this is my biggest pet peeve when everyone jumps on the dumbeldore hate train because he places harry with his uncle and aunt. LILYS SACRIFICE WAS BLOOD MAGIC. nobody including voldemort physically could not attack harry while he was in the residence of his mothers blood",
">\n\nNo. They couldn't touch him there because dumbledore used the elder wand to make the protection spell. Lilys magic was only effective against voldermort. Other death eaters were unaffected.",
">\n\ni dont think the elder wand has anything to do with the strength of Dumbledores charms and wards. It is a wand made for winning duels, not defending other people. Although the Elder Wand obviously made Dumbledore stronger, he was already an extremely competent wizard and had to be in order to win the wand.",
">\n\nMaybe its like Buffy and evil takes a break during the summer.",
">\n\nVoldemort bringing Nagini to the final battle was a bro move\nSnakes are good at fighting wizards, right? If they are good, then he should have recruited a lot more snakes.\nVolemort should have put Nagini where the locket was hidden. There's no way Harry is finding him there.",
">\n\nSchool, esp hogwarts was a bitch to everyone. He only wanted to homeschool harry, #alternativefacts",
">\n\nWhy not just have snape do the swearing curse to kill Harry instead of Dumbledor? Isn't Harry the real threat and doesn't Snape have so much opportunity to kill Harry that people assumed he was trying to at one point?",
">\n\nBecause Voldemort had to kill Harry.\nIt was part of the prophecy.",
">\n\nBut why not try? It seems odd to not make the attempt just because a prophecy says you won't.",
">\n\nNah, he's like the dog and Wile-E-Coyote. He's off during school breaks, and clocks in when school is back in session.",
">\n\nNot much point in shooting up your high school during summer vacation."
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The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.
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Seriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it.
I like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence.
Everyone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.
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where else is AL gonna get all that free labor
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"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from."
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They are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful.
Ignorance is part of the problem.
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"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor"
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Clearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are "others" and not "good people", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.
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"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem."
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Alabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.
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"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace."
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I'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.
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"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo"
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Im in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.
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"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well."
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It is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?
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"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild."
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It's simple.
Indoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.
Makes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.
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"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?"
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Spot on. This is exactly how it’s done.
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"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them."
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It's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they "discover" a "conspiracy" they get that sweet dopamine drop.
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"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done."
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Gotta keep those private prison board members making money.
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"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop."
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Alabama has private prisons...they have quotas.
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"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money."
] |
>
They gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas."
] |
>
If NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy."
] |
>
To be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it "rocket science" for nothing...
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama."
] |
>
But would there be a noticeable change?
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing..."
] |
>
Depends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?"
] |
>
For profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes."
] |
>
Gotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying"
] |
>
Too much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white."
] |
>
It’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration."
] |
>
They don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?"
] |
>
Another Prison System!
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!"
] |
>
Can’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!"
] |
>
I barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out."
] |
>
Come and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!"
/sarcasm
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason."
] |
>
Garbage state stays garbage
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm"
] |
>
I mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.
having decency is not a forte in this area of the world.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage"
] |
>
Thank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world."
] |
>
Do they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door."
] |
>
I want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?"
] |
>
Me too! You think they would show those numbers
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race"
] |
>
Gotta keep their slaves.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers"
] |
>
I always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves."
] |
>
Alabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?"
] |
>
Alabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi"
] |
>
They're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”"
] |
>
This stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is "good for business".
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling."
] |
>
What did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......
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"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder."
Yeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\"."
] |
>
She killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!"
] |
>
"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night."
Someone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there."
] |
>
Someone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.
I'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.
And let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no."
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Alabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit."
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Slavery Inc.
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery."
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Gotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc."
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90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full."
] |
>
So parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down."
] |
>
Don't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low."
] |
>
I'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?"
] |
>
Maybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do"
] |
>
maybe don't commit crimes?
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too."
] |
>
Let's release a convicted murderer early, sure.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?"
] |
>
Can't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure."
] |
>
Does that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?
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[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole."
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Av fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…
But also 90% is inhumane
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?"
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Black athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane"
] |
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You kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there"
] |
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They need the slave labor
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs."
] |
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If you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor"
] |
>
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.
Edit: don’t murder people.
|
[
"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass"
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"The prison for profit complex should be a scandal.",
">\n\nSeriously. It’s so fucking disgusting, like, we all know about it, it’s not a secret, yet nothing, absolutely fuck all, gets done about it. \nI like money as much as the next guy and I’ve done some borderline shady shit to make money but I just cannot imagine making money from knowingly depriving my fellow countrymen of their liberty, oftentimes on trumped up bogus charges or innocent people altogether. The idea of denying an innocent or undeserving person of their freedom is just abhorrent to me; no amount of money could ever make me feel good about it. The people who run the prison industrial complex, lobby for increased harsh sentencing guidelines, lawmakers who pass these laws and take kickbacks, cops who target people and manufacturer evidence and charges to meet quotas, the judges who have corrupt arrangements to convict more and more people to these prisons, and the bloodsuckers who invest in these modern day plantations are all culpable in one of the most atrocious human rights abuses in our nations history. They are fucking evil, vile, morally repugnant, reprehensible people, who should be fucking ashamed of their existence. \nEveryone that knowingly plays a role in this process should be locked up for good in the same prisons and conditions that they profit from.",
">\n\nwhere else is AL gonna get all that free labor",
">\n\n\nThey are supposed to ask if someone has been adequately punished. She’s 71 and has served 19 years, without violations in 12 years,” Cobb said. “Then the next question is: Do they pose a risk to public safety? The woman is in a wheelchair and cannot even go to the bathroom by herself. She’s dying and they just denied her parole. It is an injustice. It is shameful. \n\nIgnorance is part of the problem.",
">\n\nClearly, the people of AL LOVE this, and probably want more of it, along with all the other awful things that happen there and are easily avoidable. Presumably, because they feel the targets are \"others\" and not \"good people\", ya know, like Jesus would've said and done. I'll never live or vacation there. Beyond that, no idea how this gets fixed or changed with a salivating populace.",
">\n\nAlabama and Oklahoma are not talked about enough. We always hear about Florida and Texas.\nEdit typo",
">\n\nI'm from Houston and I've never ran into more nutty people than those in Oklahoma and I've lived in NYC as well.",
">\n\nIm in Houston, too, and while the small Texas towns are whacky, I found Alabama straight crazy on top of absolutely mental. The number of people that think that Bill Gates is microchipping them to eat their babies' adrenochrome and listening to them through the walls in their moldy 2 bedroom where the floor IS the ashtray is wild.",
">\n\nIt is astonishing to me how people in 2023 can think that way? And how the hell in America are there this many genuine stupid people?",
">\n\nIt's simple.\nIndoctrinate them into religion when they're young, priming them to believe anything. And kneecap their education system, making sure they get by with the absolute minimum real knowledge.\nMakes for a populace that's easy to control, even when they think they're fighting back against attempts to control them.",
">\n\nSpot on. This is exactly how it’s done.",
">\n\nIt's especially easy when they never leave a 20 mile radius. Their only contact with the world is the internet. So when they \"discover\" a \"conspiracy\" they get that sweet dopamine drop.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prison board members making money.",
">\n\nAlabama has private prisons...they have quotas.",
">\n\nThey gots to make they money. Gotta keep the ~~-masters-~~, I mean owners happy.",
">\n\nIf NASA was to move it’s facilities out of Huntsville it would have a noticeable negative effect on the IQ index of Alabama.",
">\n\nTo be fair, I can't think of many states where the average IQ would go up if all the NASA people left. I mean, they don't call it \"rocket science\" for nothing...",
">\n\nBut would there be a noticeable change?",
">\n\nDepends what you mean by noticeable... If you mean you can taste it in the water that the smart people left no. If you mean hey, how come we don't make rockets anymore, then yes.",
">\n\nFor profit prisons don’t make money if people are rehabilitated or released because they are dying",
">\n\nGotta keep those profits coming in, especially if the prisoner in question happens to not be white.",
">\n\nToo much money to be made in the big business of incarceration.",
">\n\nIt’s Alabama. If they didn’t keep them locked up what are the guards going to do for work?",
">\n\nThey don’t get paid to beat EACH OTHER, after all!",
">\n\nAnother Prison System!",
">\n\nCan’t make any money off the prison slaves if you let them out.",
">\n\nI barely escaped Alabama 6 years ago. I'll never go back for ANY reason.",
">\n\nCome and visit Alabama, where you can experience our statewide social experimental exhibit, Cofefe #22, where the Confederacy never ended!\" \n /sarcasm",
">\n\nGarbage state stays garbage",
">\n\nI mean, this is a region that celebrates a man and a faction that fought to keep the horrible institution of slavery.\nhaving decency is not a forte in this area of the world.",
">\n\nThank goodness Mississippi is 91%--what would Bama do without it's developmentally disabled cousin next door.",
">\n\nDo they mean a new high, or is this supposed to be positive news?",
">\n\nI want to see the percent granted parole breakdown by race",
">\n\nMe too! You think they would show those numbers",
">\n\nGotta keep their slaves.",
">\n\nI always wonder, does Alabama know it’s the shittiest state?",
">\n\nAlabama: gestures vigorously at Mississippi",
">\n\nAlabama’s state motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”",
">\n\nThey're equally shitty. I've lived in both. At least Mississippi has gambling.",
">\n\nThis stat is for state prison inmates so it's not a bunch of county govts doing this, it's a single bureaucracy. State prison programs are usually budgeted by inmate per cell per night so they do have an interest in keeping them filled. I suspect covid and inflation have weakened the agencies responsible for fair parole hearing and the people in charge don't care because keeping prisons full is \"good for business\".",
">\n\nWhat did she do to go to prison? If she did something violent or hurt someone, then to be frank idk if she's dying or sick... she can die in prison. That's the point of prison. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time......\nEdit-\n\"They argued against Harris’ release because she was convicted of murder.\"\nYeah, let her die in prison. She killed someone. She's getting what she deserves. If that was your family member that was killed would you feel sorry cause she is now sick, so now we have to let them go... nope!",
">\n\nShe killed a homeless man who came into her house. There's a lot of grey area there.",
">\n\n\"Harris testified at her trial that Norris was a friend who would often come by her house at night, but maintained she did not shoot him and that someone else was in the house that night.\"\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them. Yes there is a lot of grey area there, and that's why they left the decision to the parole board. They said no.",
">\n\n\nSomeone being homeless doesn't mean you can kill them.\n\nI'm not saying that it does. The fact of the matter is that many homeless people are homeless because of mental problems, and there's no shortage of examples of homeless people who were known to others suddenly becoming dangerous to those people and attacking them. It's also entirely possible that there was another person who killed him.\nAnd let's get real, there's tons of examples of the legal system getting it wrong and locking people up for decades for crimes that they didn't commit.",
">\n\nAlabama makes a lot of money in their for-profit prison system. They’ve got a financial stake in keeping their prisoners imprisoned. It’s modern day slavery.",
">\n\nSlavery Inc.",
">\n\nGotta keep those private prisons full. It’s like a contractual obligation to keep the prisons full.",
">\n\n90% seems like a really high denial rate but at least a new low means it's going down.",
">\n\nSo parole used to be denied to more than 90% of inmates? 90% seems like a very high record low.",
">\n\nDon't they mean 'a new high'? Or do they usually deny more than 90% parole?",
">\n\nI'm firmly in the camp that Alabama, along with Missouri and Louisiana are police states. They needed slavery to stay relevent 200 years ago, and they still do",
">\n\nMaybe she shouldn’t have murdered someone. The victim probably would have liked to live to be that old, too.",
">\n\nmaybe don't commit crimes?",
">\n\nLet's release a convicted murderer early, sure.",
">\n\nCan't have slave labor if you let them all out on parole.",
">\n\nDoes that headline mean 90% is the lowest retention rate? As in, this is relatively “good” news since more inmates are being released now than ever before?",
">\n\nAv fistula and dialysis are literally what you do when a patient has ESRD…\nBut also 90% is inhumane",
">\n\nBlack athletes need to look elsewhere. Stop going to schools in states where they clearly don’t want you there",
">\n\nYou kidding me? States like Alabama love our athletes. We waste inconceivable amounts of money on football and basketball programs.",
">\n\nThey need the slave labor",
">\n\nIf you don’t want to be in prison don’t commit crimes… dumbass",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. Why are we feeling about people who are in prison? Don’t break the law. Pretty simple.\nEdit: don’t murder people."
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