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Just like most of the other GOP they look at their job as entertainment and personal gain. It's all a game to them like going to Vegas.
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"He knew conservatives would be the easiest marks. He was right.",
">\n\nIf I pulled a grift on Republican voters, I'd immediately flip to Democrat after winning election.\nI am reasonably confident I could continue to manipulate them even as a Democrat lmao",
">\n\nAh, the Sinema strategy.",
">\n\nNot terribly smart. Sinema might want to make money as a lobbyist after she leaves politics but she has almost no good relations with either the Democrats or GOP. Her grifter tactics are going to backfire hard",
">\n\nWhen you make more money than you can spend in a lifetime, does it matter",
">\n\nGiven her whole \"prada-socialist\" gimmick from a few years ago, I'm going to bet she has a spending problem.",
">\n\nthat article was oddly enthralling thank you",
">\n\nHaha I thought the same thing. Glad you enjoyed it",
">\n\nThe best part of this is watching the lack of integrity of his fellow republicans get exposed as they jump through hoops to keep supporting him.",
">\n\nI had the thought of \"what if that's the point of the long con\" but immediately shot that down because consistency, integrity, and appearances don't matter. Them being caught in a double standard doesn't matter.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is what the GOP is now. It's entirely filled by grifters who find some way to tap into peoples' dissatisfaction with Democrats. It has nothing to do with ideas or ideology or charisma or even anger in some cases. Mtg got in with qanon. Matt gaetz got in by having a rich dad. George Santos got in because it was a good year for Republicans in new york. And trump got in because he ran against Hillary Clinton.\nNobody cares about the results. They probably don't even care about the current trans panic. They stopped caring about the election years ago. And now they don't even care about q. \nThis is the modern republican party. And by the looks of it they overdosed on nihilism",
">\n\nI'm so exhausted living in a world with adult babies.",
">\n\nMuch prefer the diaper lovers, at least they keep to themselves.",
">\n\nHe could smell the money. It's all about the grift. Tomorrow I could start being a right wing grifter and within a year be a millionaire....\nHey, wait a minute. Excuse me...",
">\n\nMan the amount of times I have thought \"ya know if it weren't for this pesky conscience, I could be rich right now, just gotta tell the sheep what they want to hear and they will throw their money at you.\"\nBut I would feel bad about fleecing people out of their money, so I don't. Morals always getting in the way of making money...",
">\n\nIt's a problem. I couldn't live with myself.",
">\n\nRight?\nIve been tempted to start a megachurch so many times, but I would feel so horrible lying to those people to extract their money from them.",
">\n\nMaybe starting a new religion isn’t a bad thing. All religions are more like clustered philosophies and sets of rules on how to live a good life; the mythology and associated deities are secondary to that purpose\nIt wouldn’t be hard to make a new religion more ethical than Mormonism at least",
">\n\nI've had that thought, call it the Church of Autotheism, and base it around the idea we are all our own gods, in that we are responsible for our own actions, and the consequences of those actions. We are gods because we change the world every time we interact it with, no matter how minor that interaction is or how subtle the change caused is.\nThe hope being that if you make people aware of their actions and the consequences that they would choose to be good. Which is probably wishful thinking at best.",
">\n\nIt would fail as a religion\n\n\nEvery religion advocates for consequentialism. Every single one.\n\n\nThe purpose of Gods whether they be Allah, Buddha, Vishnu, Ahura Mazda, The Jade Emperor, etc. is to remind people that human beings are not Gods; that human beings are ultimately falliable and that there is a reason mankind is in a fallen state, whether it be sin, haram, desire, karma, etc. Religion doesn’t work without a direct figure of worship for this reason",
">\n\nYea I know. It doesn't come with that fear of divine or cosmic retribution that hooks people.\nCan't scare people if you whole thing is \"everything is chaos, nothing means anything, so why not try being nice to each other to make things more pleasant?\" except dressed up in theological language.",
">\n\nIsnt he wanted for some crimes back in brazil?",
">\n\nBeing an extreme right wing operative is much more profitable.",
">\n\nEspecially if you're a minority. They'll build you the biggest, most expensive pedestal you've ever seen so they can show the world \"See? We can't possibly be oppressors! Here is someone we want to oppress that agrees with us!“\nAnd when you've finally helped them accomplish their goals, you'll have the honor of being second against the wall.\nAnyway, what this guy claimed years ago and what this guy claims today simply doesn't matter. His word is worthless and trying to sort the truth from the lies is a fools errand. \nHe may not even know the answer himself.",
">\n\nRemember that even in nazi germany there were Jews agreeing, supporting, and collaborating with Hitler. Only to end up in concentration camps in the end.",
">\n\nSame reason Trump switched.\nConservatives are ripe for the taking and have zero critical thinking skills.",
">\n\nSame reason for the difference in advertisements you see in conservative media. They will buy anything. All sorts of random pills, gold scams, objective trash as seen on TV stuff, scam finance stuff, etc, etc. All of this on prime time cable. You don't see them on regular media because market research is telling advertisers that conservatives are the stupidest demographic.",
">\n\nPart of me just wants to create a non profit and milk these idiots dry and then just keep 95% of the donations for running the non profit…\nEasy money.",
">\n\n\"Ted Nugent's Fund For Repossessing Mexicans' food? Sign me the fuck up\"\nActually it's me and my bros using their money to buy all the tacos we can eat...",
">\n\nI'm so ready for this idiot to be out of the news. Can he just resign in disgrace already?",
">\n\nLol it's cute if you think politicians still resign in this day",
">\n\nDemocrats resign in disgrace. \nRepublicans just keep on doubling down to the cheers of their voters.",
">\n\nDemocrats resign over fucking nothing. \nFucking nothing makes a Republican resign.",
">\n\nI'm honestly worried Biden might resign over these documents found in his residence...",
">\n\nNot worried. The presidents daily schedule is top secret. But eventually outdated and useless info. He probably kept the schedules with his notes and didn’t think it was really an issue to people with common sense. Time will tell. Except for on Fox News.",
">\n\nSeems like he had the same \"I can make so much money grifting the idiots on the right\" idea that I've had many times.\nOnly difference is that he's actually twisted enough to go out and do it. I say I'll do it quite often, but I'm not shitty enough to go through with it.",
">\n\nI have had this thought so many times as a bilingual x missionary kid. If we ran together we could make a killing! :P",
">\n\nI was a Bible Thumper, went to Christian school.. Oh man I could tute the tune on the horn they play. Like a fucking fiddle it would be so easy.",
">\n\nChristian college here bud, join the ticket.",
">\n\nChristian high school, christian college, white with blond hair and parents are rich, and born and raised in the south. It would be sooo easy.",
">\n\nYou are invited too bud, we need a vet and we're fuckin set.",
">\n\nHell ya! Let’s put this religious trauma to use",
">\n\nI'm an old ass left coast librul and I welcome this chaos magic.",
">\n\nFantastic work, did you train a model with every George Santos picture you could find?",
">\n\nTrained w about 30 pics.",
">\n\nI'm impressed",
">\n\nCriminals recognize criminals. I’m convinced any person running with an R next to their name at this point is strictly an opportunistic grifter with zero interest in governing",
">\n\nWas this comment written in the late 1980's. Ronald Reagan...",
">\n\nThe precise moment productivity and wages set off on their separate journeys and never spoke again.",
">\n\nAww come on that money gonna trickle down any year now...",
">\n\nProof that anyone that can lie can be an elected republican",
">\n\nDude, it’s getting sad at this point.\nIt’s blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention, and I hate to say it because again it makes me sad, but conservatives are rubes. These people have progressively seen how gullible they are and now there’s a feeding frenzy. \nThey smelled blood in the water when they saw Trump’s popularity rose prior to the 2016 election and they haven’t stopped since.",
">\n\n\"If that idiot can grift so can I\"",
">\n\nImagine if we took money out of politics and politicians were only working for the betterment of the people. We wouldn't have nearly as many of these stories where a conservative person is looking down on or doing something they say they're against.\nShit, if our politicians weren't suckling the teat of the rich we would likely have healthcare, people would be fed, and this manufactured inflation that's making us all poorer would have been nipped I'm the bud back when they first thought they could pull one over on the working class. \nInstead, we just get the stick.",
">\n\nTake the excess campaign dollars out of it. Don’t allow ANY money to be donated. Let every candidate start with the same dollar amount, maybe 5-10 million raised from donations and use it for expenses as they tour across the country, meeting the voters. Once the campaign money is gone, it’s gone. A bipartisan site online could accept the donations for any candidate and keep a running total of money received. Have TV debates, with the understanding that anyone breaking the rules will be immediately muted, and asked to leave. Have town hall meetings. Get politics back to the PEOPLE, to grassroots campaigns that don’t spend $100 million on one candidate. It levels the playing field for anyone to run that can raise $10 million through grassroots efforts. No politician should be beholden to huge campaign contributors. Do away with lobbying! Our country can be run better by a humanitarian,and a great administration of extremely qualified individuals. Military, Finance, Social issues, Education, Intelligence, Veterans issues, etc. we have to change the way the US is run, including elections. The richest people in the country are BUYING politicians…something the majority of the country can’t compete in, and don’t want to compete in. It would be wonderful to start voting in people based on their intelligence, their character, and their history and background. People who were overachievers in high school, college, and work. Vetting for every candidate, and any negative findings that are related to morals is disqualifying. Whoever is running this country need to be above reproach. Maybe Hakeem Jeffries, who has a great track record and is younger and more enthusiastic that anyone in the Republican Party He’s done so much for his constituents, that it’s obvious he’s a good man , and very intelligent",
">\n\nI agree with everything you said except the Hakeem Jeffries part. He takes tons of campaign bribes from multiple industries. There are democrats in the house of representatives with much cleaner records than him.",
">\n\nSantos is whoever he needs to be to pull a scam.",
">\n\nHe didn't didn't run on a whim. Someone \"encouraged\" him. Trace the origin of his money.",
">\n\nTrump has been a registered Democrat, Reformer & Republican.\nGrifters go where the money is at.",
">\n\nbeing a republican politician is basically an extremely immoral form of drag when you think about it.",
">\n\nI am now convinced that he got all of his money from the Republican party. I'm convinced that they knew he was lying all along, and they did whatever they could to get him elected. Why? Because he provides a really good distraction. While we're all watching the George Santos show, the Republicans are quietly destroying democracy.",
">\n\nHe knew it would be easy to fool a bunch of conservatives, and unfortunately he was right. Bunch of easy marks.",
">\n\nWhenever I run across a gay Republican (and they are definitely out there) I immediately assume they’re a sociopath.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian, who's perpetually befuddled by American politics, I'm amazed that someone with that gay of a face is flashing white power symbols.",
">\n\nIs George even Tony’s real name?",
">\n\nHe didn't just pop up out of nowhere and win a race all on his own. Someone chose him to be the front-man, organized, and paid for his campaign. Be interesting to find out who that was.",
">\n\nThis dude is a distraction. I’m not super into politics but I have a feeling that someone is doing some really shady shit and it being overlooked for this low hanging piece of shit.",
">\n\nIs it just me or are right wingers their own unique brand of especially gullible marks? I mean, scams don't have a political leaning but there's a lot of ways to make money selling explicitly right wing nonsense.",
">\n\nSo basically, New York elected Borat to Congress.",
">\n\nRepublicans elected him to congress",
">\n\nNo not at all, he won the Long Island district that almost always votes democrat. But it’s got a large Jewish population so he lied about being Jewish.",
">\n\nLong Islanders continue to be the stupidest fucking people",
">\n\nI'm still grappling with the fact that people care more about when he dressed up in costume as a different gender, rather than the extensive lies about his credentials.",
">\n\nI don't think \"they\" do. I.e. I think most normal people realize all that other shit is waaay worse. But everyone is wondering what the deal-breaker will be for the GOP, and you'd think that'd be proof he was a drag queen, hence the attention that's getting.\nIOW it's just evidence of how low our expectations are of the Republicans.",
">\n\nIf only I was shameless and doesn't care how much people will hate me, I definitely would run for a republican office.",
">\n\nIf you’re a conman trying to get money from political campaigns conservatives are an easy mark.",
">\n\nThere's a reason people right-wing grift. Easy money. It's also why the left-wing grift isn't a thing.",
">\n\nI’m noticing a trend with all these right wing psychos, there’s a whole lot of South Americans and Cubans in their ranks.",
">\n\nI knew the water circled the drain differently when crossing the equator, but this is ridiculous.",
">\n\nThis thread doesn't deserve your comment.",
">\n\nHe saw how gullible the Right is and how to exploit them for $",
">\n\nHe's not right or left. He's a con man. And the smart voters in NY actually voted him into office. Maybe do some research before you vote and don't vote along party lines.",
">\n\nIt’s just the last part, and they won’t.",
">\n\nMaybe he is a Trojan horse",
">\n\nOr a Trojan rep",
">\n\nHe did what Trump did, realized who the stupid people were and joined their side.",
">\n\nIs this dude getting cawthorned? Do Republicans make them go and commit kompromat before they support them?",
">\n\nThis will be the thing that really angers the Right....",
">\n\nGeorge Santo is a Lizard Person e.g. a Chameleon changing to his current environment in order to survive and prosper.",
">\n\nSome people flip flop between political extremes. On a rare occation it means they have an open mind. More often than not, they are just fools, though.",
">\n\nIt is so tragic that his family was in the holocaust and his mother died at the towers on 911",
">\n\nPure sociopath wil say anything to anyone",
">\n\nYou mean turn into a Russian agent for money and power beyond his imagination to hurt a country he didn't give a flying rat's ass about? He's not even a traitor - he's just working for Papa Putin to fuck the Americans.",
">\n\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent",
">\n\nOpportunistic Brazilian ConArtist",
">\n\nThis just goes to show why vetting processes need to happen before someone is elected",
">\n\nHe's one of those, like Trump, that is whatever is most convenient at that moment. Not really anything at all when you cut down to the deepest layer. \nTrump and Hillary were such friends that he invited her to his wedding. Years later, he's this alt-right champion. It's ridiculous and barely covers the fact that he will play any side that benefits him. Just like this boy Santos. Both sociopathic liars with fragile egos and shaky claims to any thing remotely verifiable as truth.",
">\n\nUndiagnosed personality disorders are all around us.",
">\n\nSays a lot about George Santos that I believe a random Drag Artist in Brazil over the elected politician George Santos \nCaveat, Not that I wouldnt believe something a person says (drag artist or not), but if random people came out on the internet and said, “Trump randomly said to me one time he loves Democrat policies and was a huge Obama fan” I’d be like, “Okay, random person, Trumps a shitty person but I doubt that.” George Santos is such a fucking liar I’m like, “She probably telling the truth”",
">\n\nEvery day this looks more like a borat movie in real life.",
">\n\nIF America had rejected tRump, this pathological liar, wouldn't be here now.",
">\n\nI don't know about everyone else but I'm starting to think that this guy might not be the most trustworthy",
">\n\nWho is this person? He fooled so many.",
">\n\nHe saw a reality tv star play a role upon a mountain of lies and now he thinks he can too.",
">\n\nMaybe the left is missing the message here. Run as republican, be outraged by all the silly shit that Ra yell at, but then vote leftwing.\nPretend to be a right-wing nut job, but vote left",
">\n\nBecause this is how you get elected and get a fuckton of money, obviously. It's easy to do. Look at Musk and Trump - also previously non-nationalists (but always grifters) capitalizing on the rightzis' lunacy and hysteria. 'Pay me if you want to survive the assault on white identity and religion' is a ~~powerful~~ profitable message.",
">\n\nR/conservative",
">\n\nCon-men have no political philosophies, just scams.",
">\n\nThese fucks just want fame. They don’t care which side they’re on, just as long as they see themselves in the paper, on the news and internet. Narcissists.",
">\n\nHe wasn’t a “Leftist” but he certainly has all the familiar traits of a sociopathic Conservative. Georgieboi will say and do anything to get what he wants. It is your stereotypical malignant Narcissist.",
">\n\nSleeper agent?",
">\n\nThe reason for “this crazy thing” is called money. He was obviously bought by some group to run as a gay republican to get votes in a contested district, and it worked. All efforts should be put in it tracking down who paid him to do this and creating strong ethical standards for elected officials",
">\n\nI can guarantee you he didn't just recently turn crazy",
">\n\nIf the song was about Santos, it basically would have been I met a drag queen, she was horrible, I went somewhere else.",
">\n\nI'm gonna channel my inner Obi Wan and ask who's more foolish, the fool, or the fool who votes for him?",
">\n\nThis is how politics works in the US. Hasan and his uncle Cenk talk about this all the time. Going the right wing route is a way more profitable route. For a lot of them its just a grift. The marks/voters are an extremely manipulable bunch, and the funders (billionaires/corporations) have big pockets",
">\n\nHonestly, I think this guy is awesome. Taking the republican clown archetype to the absolute extreme and exposing just how corrupt and ridiculous they are as they fumble to continue supporting him.",
">\n\nDiamond and Silk were rabid left wingers until they realized the grift opportunities were much better on the other side.",
">\n\n🎶🎶 Money money money, must be funny, in a rich man's world. 🎶🎶🎶🎶",
">\n\nThe USA- where literally anyone can come and become a right wing biggot.",
">\n\nStick that man's brain in a pigeon and it will fly backwards...",
">\n\nHe is nothing but an opportunist.",
">\n\nWe really need to see this guy’s birth certificate.",
">\n\nThe oppo researchers in the NY Democratic Party should be sacked. Honestly. How the hell did this guy get through a whole campaign without this coming out?",
">\n\nIt did come out. And local press covered it. It’s just that nobody gave a shit…",
">\n\nCrazy thing = scam artist and probable Russian plant",
">\n\nMy guess is he’s always been a pathological liar and doesn’t have any convictions or principles",
">\n\nHe never supported anything except his own enrichment. The guy is a psycho and always has been.",
">\n\nIs it that odd? I do believe a number of current conservatives both in the media and in politics were at one point pretty liberal, but when they found out they couldn't make money off it, they went to the right.",
">\n\nGrift is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nI don't think he actually believes his own shit, but I do wonder if he is being paid off by a foreign power to help destabilize the US",
">\n\nBasically one-upping Kyrsten Sinema",
">\n\nWhy is he not being recalled by his district ?",
">\n\nWhose payroll is he on?",
">\n\nI just wish this article was about Matt Gaetz",
">\n\nSimilar to people like Trump or Candice Owens. These people have no ideology just the grift path of least resistance.",
">\n\nAll these formerly hidden fun facts about ol' George here are sooo interesting. He's just a never-ending fount of delightful surprises!\nP.S. Did you know that George Santos lassos rampaging bulls with his penis?",
">\n\nYeah, he probably lied about all that too",
">\n\nDamn, I never thought anyone on the republican team could do their makeup better than Trump, but I was wrong!",
">\n\nSir Lies a lot",
">\n\nHe didn’t change. He was always a liar. I wouldn’t be shocked if he was a straight up\nPsychopath.",
">\n\nPrevious Jobs Drag Artist…\nRepublicans: i think we can be a good match and we have a job offer for you.",
">\n\nPlease can someone make a visual timeline of this man’s life and lies? It’s so complicated that I can’t understand the full history of when he showed up in politics and the claims he’s made. It’s too convoluted to comprehend. I need bullet points. Or drawrings.",
">\n\nWho is this guy? Like he could be some sleeper agent",
">\n\nso he's clearly either an opportunist, or a legit crazy person... or both",
">\n\nThis story doesn’t even seem real.",
">\n\n“Article I, Section 2, Clause 2: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.”\nHow did he get into congress if you need to be a U.S. citizen for at least 7 years?",
">\n\nHe wanted progressive policies for his own country. He's happy to profit from destroying this one.",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is Glenn Greenwald?",
">\n\nI've never seen him and Kyrsten Sinema in the same room together.\nI'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'",
">\n\nWhich sounds more realistic?\n1) hundreds and hundreds of people are all lying about one person, across continents\n2) one person is lying A BUNCH.",
">\n\nI want to know if he's actually a US citizen, or if just lied about that like everything else.",
">\n\nAre we sure that \"George Santos\" is not just a Sacha Baron Cohen project at this point?",
">\n\nThis is literally full grift mode mask off. There isn't any hard evidence a guy like Dave Rubin switches to the right for money, but we all know it's true.\nThis grift has receipts.",
">\n\nHe goes where the grift is. Right now the maga crowd is so reactionary and blinded by the identity politics of the right that they don't notice their pockets being picked",
">\n\nThe crazy theory of him being actually an actor working for Sasha Baron Cohen sounds less and less crazy every day.",
">\n\nProbably just a grifter who saw where the suckers were at. People like him don't have any real political beliefs.",
">\n\nThe quote that stood out to me is “he wanted to be famous, no matter what.” He got his wish.",
">\n\nSo he’s drag Trump?",
">\n\nMany people are actually left leaning and for policies that benefit many people, all people. Until they move to the US, and are fed “patriotic” adjectives by the GOP. \nI.e. my in laws.",
">\n\nOr he just knew which party would be more receptive to grift",
">\n\nIt’s so nice to see the GOP, the party of \"facts and logic,” standing by a party member known to be so honest and truthful...",
">\n\nRepublicans need to stop endorsing con-men and Yahoos. The Republican Party is looking like some kind of Clown Party.",
">\n\nIt’s like bizarro Kyrsten Sinema… is he a democrat plant for revenge purposes? /s?",
">\n\nWhat if he's trying to infiltrate the enemy and do a double-cross and we all blew his cover?",
">\n\nAll the crazy that Russian money could buy.",
">\n\nYeah, these types of people stand for nothing.\nThey just shift into whatever the environment calls for.",
">\n\nMakes u really wonder what plans he has for any confidential information he may be privy to during his term.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to me how this happens. Like there was no real Republican that was interested in the office so they just went with this guy? Like how does it happen.",
">\n\nThis is a real republican...",
">\n\nIs he the Cousin of Ronnette Desantis from Florida???",
">\n\nThis guy is nuts. When I first saw stories of this dude I thought he looked off af. His look just didn’t fit. Like a skinwalker. And every story, including this one, has only affirmed those instincts more. Uncanny valley in the modern age.",
">\n\nHas Glenn Greenwald gotten on the case yet being an investigative journalist who lives in Brazil???",
">\n\nMan just wanted some free healthcare for life",
">\n\nEver read “Kiss of the Spider Woman?” A flamboyant gay drag queen in South America is joyfully apolitical even as the government is cracking down on people like him. This makes him an easy mark, and in return for little favors the fascists turn him into a double agent working for them instead.",
">\n\nIt’s easy to get elected if you just spew enough hate into the right people.",
">\n\nIt would be so easy to be a right wing grifter",
">\n\nHe probably got introduced to Putin by Glenn Greenwald.",
">\n\nIf this whole thing turns out to be some piece of performance art. I will admit it's impressive.",
">\n\nHe has to be friends with Glen Greenwald",
">\n\nCapitalism consumes those with a weak mind. Makes sense Santos betrayed the left and gave in to the vast wealth the conservative movement offered. Dude was an opportunist, and the GOP gullible rich assholes. Perfect marriage",
">\n\nThey love how the crazies distract the libs so much that they'll keep electing them until it's the GCP.",
">\n\nLauren Boebert was a sugar baby found through a casting website.\nThe whole plan is to make sure that tons of clown candidates break through.\nIt creates the narrative that all government is corrupt and we need a strong fascist to fix things. \"I mean, you don't see the Democrats doing anything to stop Santos or MTG or Boebert...\" they'll argue as they throw Santos out.",
">\n\n\"Crazy\" is more likely to be accepted by the Republican party, the Democrats would have turned him away.",
">\n\n\"this crazy thing\" being your standard political grifter?",
">\n\nThe Big Reveal: He is Andy Kaufman.",
">\n\nNo it's a republicans so desperate to win a seat in any district that even crazy are on the menu.",
">\n\nLike Trump and Musk, too. I guess it takes far less effort to gather and keep idiots as constituents",
">\n\nI feel at this point I need a docuseries about what the hell is going on with this guy.",
">\n\nDuh. He followed the money. So did Trump. And Candice Owens.",
">\n\nMoney is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nOut of the many characteristics he has, his most outstanding feature is his ability to lie. So he turned to the party of liars.",
">\n\nIt’s always the same shit. Some loser tried and failed to fit in with leftists because they had a shallow grasp on progressivism and were more interested with personal gain and were willing to abandon everything they claimed they stood for, all so that they can go grift and get money from conservatives making themselves out to be “one of the good ones”. Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, George santos, Jimmy dore, the list goes on.",
">\n\nWhen they can no longer defend him in the face of the mudslide of lies, they say he's a \"leftist\". Lol omg seriously? He never went anywhere as a Democrat. This idiot is a con artist pure and simple. He got elected Ted as a GOP Rep. Those are the facts."
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What kind of art do they do?
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"He knew conservatives would be the easiest marks. He was right.",
">\n\nIf I pulled a grift on Republican voters, I'd immediately flip to Democrat after winning election.\nI am reasonably confident I could continue to manipulate them even as a Democrat lmao",
">\n\nAh, the Sinema strategy.",
">\n\nNot terribly smart. Sinema might want to make money as a lobbyist after she leaves politics but she has almost no good relations with either the Democrats or GOP. Her grifter tactics are going to backfire hard",
">\n\nWhen you make more money than you can spend in a lifetime, does it matter",
">\n\nGiven her whole \"prada-socialist\" gimmick from a few years ago, I'm going to bet she has a spending problem.",
">\n\nthat article was oddly enthralling thank you",
">\n\nHaha I thought the same thing. Glad you enjoyed it",
">\n\nThe best part of this is watching the lack of integrity of his fellow republicans get exposed as they jump through hoops to keep supporting him.",
">\n\nI had the thought of \"what if that's the point of the long con\" but immediately shot that down because consistency, integrity, and appearances don't matter. Them being caught in a double standard doesn't matter.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is what the GOP is now. It's entirely filled by grifters who find some way to tap into peoples' dissatisfaction with Democrats. It has nothing to do with ideas or ideology or charisma or even anger in some cases. Mtg got in with qanon. Matt gaetz got in by having a rich dad. George Santos got in because it was a good year for Republicans in new york. And trump got in because he ran against Hillary Clinton.\nNobody cares about the results. They probably don't even care about the current trans panic. They stopped caring about the election years ago. And now they don't even care about q. \nThis is the modern republican party. And by the looks of it they overdosed on nihilism",
">\n\nI'm so exhausted living in a world with adult babies.",
">\n\nMuch prefer the diaper lovers, at least they keep to themselves.",
">\n\nHe could smell the money. It's all about the grift. Tomorrow I could start being a right wing grifter and within a year be a millionaire....\nHey, wait a minute. Excuse me...",
">\n\nMan the amount of times I have thought \"ya know if it weren't for this pesky conscience, I could be rich right now, just gotta tell the sheep what they want to hear and they will throw their money at you.\"\nBut I would feel bad about fleecing people out of their money, so I don't. Morals always getting in the way of making money...",
">\n\nIt's a problem. I couldn't live with myself.",
">\n\nRight?\nIve been tempted to start a megachurch so many times, but I would feel so horrible lying to those people to extract their money from them.",
">\n\nMaybe starting a new religion isn’t a bad thing. All religions are more like clustered philosophies and sets of rules on how to live a good life; the mythology and associated deities are secondary to that purpose\nIt wouldn’t be hard to make a new religion more ethical than Mormonism at least",
">\n\nI've had that thought, call it the Church of Autotheism, and base it around the idea we are all our own gods, in that we are responsible for our own actions, and the consequences of those actions. We are gods because we change the world every time we interact it with, no matter how minor that interaction is or how subtle the change caused is.\nThe hope being that if you make people aware of their actions and the consequences that they would choose to be good. Which is probably wishful thinking at best.",
">\n\nIt would fail as a religion\n\n\nEvery religion advocates for consequentialism. Every single one.\n\n\nThe purpose of Gods whether they be Allah, Buddha, Vishnu, Ahura Mazda, The Jade Emperor, etc. is to remind people that human beings are not Gods; that human beings are ultimately falliable and that there is a reason mankind is in a fallen state, whether it be sin, haram, desire, karma, etc. Religion doesn’t work without a direct figure of worship for this reason",
">\n\nYea I know. It doesn't come with that fear of divine or cosmic retribution that hooks people.\nCan't scare people if you whole thing is \"everything is chaos, nothing means anything, so why not try being nice to each other to make things more pleasant?\" except dressed up in theological language.",
">\n\nIsnt he wanted for some crimes back in brazil?",
">\n\nBeing an extreme right wing operative is much more profitable.",
">\n\nEspecially if you're a minority. They'll build you the biggest, most expensive pedestal you've ever seen so they can show the world \"See? We can't possibly be oppressors! Here is someone we want to oppress that agrees with us!“\nAnd when you've finally helped them accomplish their goals, you'll have the honor of being second against the wall.\nAnyway, what this guy claimed years ago and what this guy claims today simply doesn't matter. His word is worthless and trying to sort the truth from the lies is a fools errand. \nHe may not even know the answer himself.",
">\n\nRemember that even in nazi germany there were Jews agreeing, supporting, and collaborating with Hitler. Only to end up in concentration camps in the end.",
">\n\nSame reason Trump switched.\nConservatives are ripe for the taking and have zero critical thinking skills.",
">\n\nSame reason for the difference in advertisements you see in conservative media. They will buy anything. All sorts of random pills, gold scams, objective trash as seen on TV stuff, scam finance stuff, etc, etc. All of this on prime time cable. You don't see them on regular media because market research is telling advertisers that conservatives are the stupidest demographic.",
">\n\nPart of me just wants to create a non profit and milk these idiots dry and then just keep 95% of the donations for running the non profit…\nEasy money.",
">\n\n\"Ted Nugent's Fund For Repossessing Mexicans' food? Sign me the fuck up\"\nActually it's me and my bros using their money to buy all the tacos we can eat...",
">\n\nI'm so ready for this idiot to be out of the news. Can he just resign in disgrace already?",
">\n\nLol it's cute if you think politicians still resign in this day",
">\n\nDemocrats resign in disgrace. \nRepublicans just keep on doubling down to the cheers of their voters.",
">\n\nDemocrats resign over fucking nothing. \nFucking nothing makes a Republican resign.",
">\n\nI'm honestly worried Biden might resign over these documents found in his residence...",
">\n\nNot worried. The presidents daily schedule is top secret. But eventually outdated and useless info. He probably kept the schedules with his notes and didn’t think it was really an issue to people with common sense. Time will tell. Except for on Fox News.",
">\n\nSeems like he had the same \"I can make so much money grifting the idiots on the right\" idea that I've had many times.\nOnly difference is that he's actually twisted enough to go out and do it. I say I'll do it quite often, but I'm not shitty enough to go through with it.",
">\n\nI have had this thought so many times as a bilingual x missionary kid. If we ran together we could make a killing! :P",
">\n\nI was a Bible Thumper, went to Christian school.. Oh man I could tute the tune on the horn they play. Like a fucking fiddle it would be so easy.",
">\n\nChristian college here bud, join the ticket.",
">\n\nChristian high school, christian college, white with blond hair and parents are rich, and born and raised in the south. It would be sooo easy.",
">\n\nYou are invited too bud, we need a vet and we're fuckin set.",
">\n\nHell ya! Let’s put this religious trauma to use",
">\n\nI'm an old ass left coast librul and I welcome this chaos magic.",
">\n\nFantastic work, did you train a model with every George Santos picture you could find?",
">\n\nTrained w about 30 pics.",
">\n\nI'm impressed",
">\n\nCriminals recognize criminals. I’m convinced any person running with an R next to their name at this point is strictly an opportunistic grifter with zero interest in governing",
">\n\nWas this comment written in the late 1980's. Ronald Reagan...",
">\n\nThe precise moment productivity and wages set off on their separate journeys and never spoke again.",
">\n\nAww come on that money gonna trickle down any year now...",
">\n\nProof that anyone that can lie can be an elected republican",
">\n\nDude, it’s getting sad at this point.\nIt’s blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention, and I hate to say it because again it makes me sad, but conservatives are rubes. These people have progressively seen how gullible they are and now there’s a feeding frenzy. \nThey smelled blood in the water when they saw Trump’s popularity rose prior to the 2016 election and they haven’t stopped since.",
">\n\n\"If that idiot can grift so can I\"",
">\n\nImagine if we took money out of politics and politicians were only working for the betterment of the people. We wouldn't have nearly as many of these stories where a conservative person is looking down on or doing something they say they're against.\nShit, if our politicians weren't suckling the teat of the rich we would likely have healthcare, people would be fed, and this manufactured inflation that's making us all poorer would have been nipped I'm the bud back when they first thought they could pull one over on the working class. \nInstead, we just get the stick.",
">\n\nTake the excess campaign dollars out of it. Don’t allow ANY money to be donated. Let every candidate start with the same dollar amount, maybe 5-10 million raised from donations and use it for expenses as they tour across the country, meeting the voters. Once the campaign money is gone, it’s gone. A bipartisan site online could accept the donations for any candidate and keep a running total of money received. Have TV debates, with the understanding that anyone breaking the rules will be immediately muted, and asked to leave. Have town hall meetings. Get politics back to the PEOPLE, to grassroots campaigns that don’t spend $100 million on one candidate. It levels the playing field for anyone to run that can raise $10 million through grassroots efforts. No politician should be beholden to huge campaign contributors. Do away with lobbying! Our country can be run better by a humanitarian,and a great administration of extremely qualified individuals. Military, Finance, Social issues, Education, Intelligence, Veterans issues, etc. we have to change the way the US is run, including elections. The richest people in the country are BUYING politicians…something the majority of the country can’t compete in, and don’t want to compete in. It would be wonderful to start voting in people based on their intelligence, their character, and their history and background. People who were overachievers in high school, college, and work. Vetting for every candidate, and any negative findings that are related to morals is disqualifying. Whoever is running this country need to be above reproach. Maybe Hakeem Jeffries, who has a great track record and is younger and more enthusiastic that anyone in the Republican Party He’s done so much for his constituents, that it’s obvious he’s a good man , and very intelligent",
">\n\nI agree with everything you said except the Hakeem Jeffries part. He takes tons of campaign bribes from multiple industries. There are democrats in the house of representatives with much cleaner records than him.",
">\n\nSantos is whoever he needs to be to pull a scam.",
">\n\nHe didn't didn't run on a whim. Someone \"encouraged\" him. Trace the origin of his money.",
">\n\nTrump has been a registered Democrat, Reformer & Republican.\nGrifters go where the money is at.",
">\n\nbeing a republican politician is basically an extremely immoral form of drag when you think about it.",
">\n\nI am now convinced that he got all of his money from the Republican party. I'm convinced that they knew he was lying all along, and they did whatever they could to get him elected. Why? Because he provides a really good distraction. While we're all watching the George Santos show, the Republicans are quietly destroying democracy.",
">\n\nHe knew it would be easy to fool a bunch of conservatives, and unfortunately he was right. Bunch of easy marks.",
">\n\nWhenever I run across a gay Republican (and they are definitely out there) I immediately assume they’re a sociopath.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian, who's perpetually befuddled by American politics, I'm amazed that someone with that gay of a face is flashing white power symbols.",
">\n\nIs George even Tony’s real name?",
">\n\nHe didn't just pop up out of nowhere and win a race all on his own. Someone chose him to be the front-man, organized, and paid for his campaign. Be interesting to find out who that was.",
">\n\nThis dude is a distraction. I’m not super into politics but I have a feeling that someone is doing some really shady shit and it being overlooked for this low hanging piece of shit.",
">\n\nIs it just me or are right wingers their own unique brand of especially gullible marks? I mean, scams don't have a political leaning but there's a lot of ways to make money selling explicitly right wing nonsense.",
">\n\nSo basically, New York elected Borat to Congress.",
">\n\nRepublicans elected him to congress",
">\n\nNo not at all, he won the Long Island district that almost always votes democrat. But it’s got a large Jewish population so he lied about being Jewish.",
">\n\nLong Islanders continue to be the stupidest fucking people",
">\n\nI'm still grappling with the fact that people care more about when he dressed up in costume as a different gender, rather than the extensive lies about his credentials.",
">\n\nI don't think \"they\" do. I.e. I think most normal people realize all that other shit is waaay worse. But everyone is wondering what the deal-breaker will be for the GOP, and you'd think that'd be proof he was a drag queen, hence the attention that's getting.\nIOW it's just evidence of how low our expectations are of the Republicans.",
">\n\nIf only I was shameless and doesn't care how much people will hate me, I definitely would run for a republican office.",
">\n\nIf you’re a conman trying to get money from political campaigns conservatives are an easy mark.",
">\n\nThere's a reason people right-wing grift. Easy money. It's also why the left-wing grift isn't a thing.",
">\n\nI’m noticing a trend with all these right wing psychos, there’s a whole lot of South Americans and Cubans in their ranks.",
">\n\nI knew the water circled the drain differently when crossing the equator, but this is ridiculous.",
">\n\nThis thread doesn't deserve your comment.",
">\n\nHe saw how gullible the Right is and how to exploit them for $",
">\n\nHe's not right or left. He's a con man. And the smart voters in NY actually voted him into office. Maybe do some research before you vote and don't vote along party lines.",
">\n\nIt’s just the last part, and they won’t.",
">\n\nMaybe he is a Trojan horse",
">\n\nOr a Trojan rep",
">\n\nHe did what Trump did, realized who the stupid people were and joined their side.",
">\n\nIs this dude getting cawthorned? Do Republicans make them go and commit kompromat before they support them?",
">\n\nThis will be the thing that really angers the Right....",
">\n\nGeorge Santo is a Lizard Person e.g. a Chameleon changing to his current environment in order to survive and prosper.",
">\n\nSome people flip flop between political extremes. On a rare occation it means they have an open mind. More often than not, they are just fools, though.",
">\n\nIt is so tragic that his family was in the holocaust and his mother died at the towers on 911",
">\n\nPure sociopath wil say anything to anyone",
">\n\nYou mean turn into a Russian agent for money and power beyond his imagination to hurt a country he didn't give a flying rat's ass about? He's not even a traitor - he's just working for Papa Putin to fuck the Americans.",
">\n\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent",
">\n\nOpportunistic Brazilian ConArtist",
">\n\nThis just goes to show why vetting processes need to happen before someone is elected",
">\n\nHe's one of those, like Trump, that is whatever is most convenient at that moment. Not really anything at all when you cut down to the deepest layer. \nTrump and Hillary were such friends that he invited her to his wedding. Years later, he's this alt-right champion. It's ridiculous and barely covers the fact that he will play any side that benefits him. Just like this boy Santos. Both sociopathic liars with fragile egos and shaky claims to any thing remotely verifiable as truth.",
">\n\nUndiagnosed personality disorders are all around us.",
">\n\nSays a lot about George Santos that I believe a random Drag Artist in Brazil over the elected politician George Santos \nCaveat, Not that I wouldnt believe something a person says (drag artist or not), but if random people came out on the internet and said, “Trump randomly said to me one time he loves Democrat policies and was a huge Obama fan” I’d be like, “Okay, random person, Trumps a shitty person but I doubt that.” George Santos is such a fucking liar I’m like, “She probably telling the truth”",
">\n\nEvery day this looks more like a borat movie in real life.",
">\n\nIF America had rejected tRump, this pathological liar, wouldn't be here now.",
">\n\nI don't know about everyone else but I'm starting to think that this guy might not be the most trustworthy",
">\n\nWho is this person? He fooled so many.",
">\n\nHe saw a reality tv star play a role upon a mountain of lies and now he thinks he can too.",
">\n\nMaybe the left is missing the message here. Run as republican, be outraged by all the silly shit that Ra yell at, but then vote leftwing.\nPretend to be a right-wing nut job, but vote left",
">\n\nBecause this is how you get elected and get a fuckton of money, obviously. It's easy to do. Look at Musk and Trump - also previously non-nationalists (but always grifters) capitalizing on the rightzis' lunacy and hysteria. 'Pay me if you want to survive the assault on white identity and religion' is a ~~powerful~~ profitable message.",
">\n\nR/conservative",
">\n\nCon-men have no political philosophies, just scams.",
">\n\nThese fucks just want fame. They don’t care which side they’re on, just as long as they see themselves in the paper, on the news and internet. Narcissists.",
">\n\nHe wasn’t a “Leftist” but he certainly has all the familiar traits of a sociopathic Conservative. Georgieboi will say and do anything to get what he wants. It is your stereotypical malignant Narcissist.",
">\n\nSleeper agent?",
">\n\nThe reason for “this crazy thing” is called money. He was obviously bought by some group to run as a gay republican to get votes in a contested district, and it worked. All efforts should be put in it tracking down who paid him to do this and creating strong ethical standards for elected officials",
">\n\nI can guarantee you he didn't just recently turn crazy",
">\n\nIf the song was about Santos, it basically would have been I met a drag queen, she was horrible, I went somewhere else.",
">\n\nI'm gonna channel my inner Obi Wan and ask who's more foolish, the fool, or the fool who votes for him?",
">\n\nThis is how politics works in the US. Hasan and his uncle Cenk talk about this all the time. Going the right wing route is a way more profitable route. For a lot of them its just a grift. The marks/voters are an extremely manipulable bunch, and the funders (billionaires/corporations) have big pockets",
">\n\nHonestly, I think this guy is awesome. Taking the republican clown archetype to the absolute extreme and exposing just how corrupt and ridiculous they are as they fumble to continue supporting him.",
">\n\nDiamond and Silk were rabid left wingers until they realized the grift opportunities were much better on the other side.",
">\n\n🎶🎶 Money money money, must be funny, in a rich man's world. 🎶🎶🎶🎶",
">\n\nThe USA- where literally anyone can come and become a right wing biggot.",
">\n\nStick that man's brain in a pigeon and it will fly backwards...",
">\n\nHe is nothing but an opportunist.",
">\n\nWe really need to see this guy’s birth certificate.",
">\n\nThe oppo researchers in the NY Democratic Party should be sacked. Honestly. How the hell did this guy get through a whole campaign without this coming out?",
">\n\nIt did come out. And local press covered it. It’s just that nobody gave a shit…",
">\n\nCrazy thing = scam artist and probable Russian plant",
">\n\nMy guess is he’s always been a pathological liar and doesn’t have any convictions or principles",
">\n\nHe never supported anything except his own enrichment. The guy is a psycho and always has been.",
">\n\nIs it that odd? I do believe a number of current conservatives both in the media and in politics were at one point pretty liberal, but when they found out they couldn't make money off it, they went to the right.",
">\n\nGrift is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nI don't think he actually believes his own shit, but I do wonder if he is being paid off by a foreign power to help destabilize the US",
">\n\nBasically one-upping Kyrsten Sinema",
">\n\nWhy is he not being recalled by his district ?",
">\n\nWhose payroll is he on?",
">\n\nI just wish this article was about Matt Gaetz",
">\n\nSimilar to people like Trump or Candice Owens. These people have no ideology just the grift path of least resistance.",
">\n\nAll these formerly hidden fun facts about ol' George here are sooo interesting. He's just a never-ending fount of delightful surprises!\nP.S. Did you know that George Santos lassos rampaging bulls with his penis?",
">\n\nYeah, he probably lied about all that too",
">\n\nDamn, I never thought anyone on the republican team could do their makeup better than Trump, but I was wrong!",
">\n\nSir Lies a lot",
">\n\nHe didn’t change. He was always a liar. I wouldn’t be shocked if he was a straight up\nPsychopath.",
">\n\nPrevious Jobs Drag Artist…\nRepublicans: i think we can be a good match and we have a job offer for you.",
">\n\nPlease can someone make a visual timeline of this man’s life and lies? It’s so complicated that I can’t understand the full history of when he showed up in politics and the claims he’s made. It’s too convoluted to comprehend. I need bullet points. Or drawrings.",
">\n\nWho is this guy? Like he could be some sleeper agent",
">\n\nso he's clearly either an opportunist, or a legit crazy person... or both",
">\n\nThis story doesn’t even seem real.",
">\n\n“Article I, Section 2, Clause 2: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.”\nHow did he get into congress if you need to be a U.S. citizen for at least 7 years?",
">\n\nHe wanted progressive policies for his own country. He's happy to profit from destroying this one.",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is Glenn Greenwald?",
">\n\nI've never seen him and Kyrsten Sinema in the same room together.\nI'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'",
">\n\nWhich sounds more realistic?\n1) hundreds and hundreds of people are all lying about one person, across continents\n2) one person is lying A BUNCH.",
">\n\nI want to know if he's actually a US citizen, or if just lied about that like everything else.",
">\n\nAre we sure that \"George Santos\" is not just a Sacha Baron Cohen project at this point?",
">\n\nThis is literally full grift mode mask off. There isn't any hard evidence a guy like Dave Rubin switches to the right for money, but we all know it's true.\nThis grift has receipts.",
">\n\nHe goes where the grift is. Right now the maga crowd is so reactionary and blinded by the identity politics of the right that they don't notice their pockets being picked",
">\n\nThe crazy theory of him being actually an actor working for Sasha Baron Cohen sounds less and less crazy every day.",
">\n\nProbably just a grifter who saw where the suckers were at. People like him don't have any real political beliefs.",
">\n\nThe quote that stood out to me is “he wanted to be famous, no matter what.” He got his wish.",
">\n\nSo he’s drag Trump?",
">\n\nMany people are actually left leaning and for policies that benefit many people, all people. Until they move to the US, and are fed “patriotic” adjectives by the GOP. \nI.e. my in laws.",
">\n\nOr he just knew which party would be more receptive to grift",
">\n\nIt’s so nice to see the GOP, the party of \"facts and logic,” standing by a party member known to be so honest and truthful...",
">\n\nRepublicans need to stop endorsing con-men and Yahoos. The Republican Party is looking like some kind of Clown Party.",
">\n\nIt’s like bizarro Kyrsten Sinema… is he a democrat plant for revenge purposes? /s?",
">\n\nWhat if he's trying to infiltrate the enemy and do a double-cross and we all blew his cover?",
">\n\nAll the crazy that Russian money could buy.",
">\n\nYeah, these types of people stand for nothing.\nThey just shift into whatever the environment calls for.",
">\n\nMakes u really wonder what plans he has for any confidential information he may be privy to during his term.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to me how this happens. Like there was no real Republican that was interested in the office so they just went with this guy? Like how does it happen.",
">\n\nThis is a real republican...",
">\n\nIs he the Cousin of Ronnette Desantis from Florida???",
">\n\nThis guy is nuts. When I first saw stories of this dude I thought he looked off af. His look just didn’t fit. Like a skinwalker. And every story, including this one, has only affirmed those instincts more. Uncanny valley in the modern age.",
">\n\nHas Glenn Greenwald gotten on the case yet being an investigative journalist who lives in Brazil???",
">\n\nMan just wanted some free healthcare for life",
">\n\nEver read “Kiss of the Spider Woman?” A flamboyant gay drag queen in South America is joyfully apolitical even as the government is cracking down on people like him. This makes him an easy mark, and in return for little favors the fascists turn him into a double agent working for them instead.",
">\n\nIt’s easy to get elected if you just spew enough hate into the right people.",
">\n\nIt would be so easy to be a right wing grifter",
">\n\nHe probably got introduced to Putin by Glenn Greenwald.",
">\n\nIf this whole thing turns out to be some piece of performance art. I will admit it's impressive.",
">\n\nHe has to be friends with Glen Greenwald",
">\n\nCapitalism consumes those with a weak mind. Makes sense Santos betrayed the left and gave in to the vast wealth the conservative movement offered. Dude was an opportunist, and the GOP gullible rich assholes. Perfect marriage",
">\n\nThey love how the crazies distract the libs so much that they'll keep electing them until it's the GCP.",
">\n\nLauren Boebert was a sugar baby found through a casting website.\nThe whole plan is to make sure that tons of clown candidates break through.\nIt creates the narrative that all government is corrupt and we need a strong fascist to fix things. \"I mean, you don't see the Democrats doing anything to stop Santos or MTG or Boebert...\" they'll argue as they throw Santos out.",
">\n\n\"Crazy\" is more likely to be accepted by the Republican party, the Democrats would have turned him away.",
">\n\n\"this crazy thing\" being your standard political grifter?",
">\n\nThe Big Reveal: He is Andy Kaufman.",
">\n\nNo it's a republicans so desperate to win a seat in any district that even crazy are on the menu.",
">\n\nLike Trump and Musk, too. I guess it takes far less effort to gather and keep idiots as constituents",
">\n\nI feel at this point I need a docuseries about what the hell is going on with this guy.",
">\n\nDuh. He followed the money. So did Trump. And Candice Owens.",
">\n\nMoney is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nOut of the many characteristics he has, his most outstanding feature is his ability to lie. So he turned to the party of liars.",
">\n\nIt’s always the same shit. Some loser tried and failed to fit in with leftists because they had a shallow grasp on progressivism and were more interested with personal gain and were willing to abandon everything they claimed they stood for, all so that they can go grift and get money from conservatives making themselves out to be “one of the good ones”. Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, George santos, Jimmy dore, the list goes on.",
">\n\nWhen they can no longer defend him in the face of the mudslide of lies, they say he's a \"leftist\". Lol omg seriously? He never went anywhere as a Democrat. This idiot is a con artist pure and simple. He got elected Ted as a GOP Rep. Those are the facts.",
">\n\nJust like most of the other GOP they look at their job as entertainment and personal gain. It's all a game to them like going to Vegas."
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"He knew conservatives would be the easiest marks. He was right.",
">\n\nIf I pulled a grift on Republican voters, I'd immediately flip to Democrat after winning election.\nI am reasonably confident I could continue to manipulate them even as a Democrat lmao",
">\n\nAh, the Sinema strategy.",
">\n\nNot terribly smart. Sinema might want to make money as a lobbyist after she leaves politics but she has almost no good relations with either the Democrats or GOP. Her grifter tactics are going to backfire hard",
">\n\nWhen you make more money than you can spend in a lifetime, does it matter",
">\n\nGiven her whole \"prada-socialist\" gimmick from a few years ago, I'm going to bet she has a spending problem.",
">\n\nthat article was oddly enthralling thank you",
">\n\nHaha I thought the same thing. Glad you enjoyed it",
">\n\nThe best part of this is watching the lack of integrity of his fellow republicans get exposed as they jump through hoops to keep supporting him.",
">\n\nI had the thought of \"what if that's the point of the long con\" but immediately shot that down because consistency, integrity, and appearances don't matter. Them being caught in a double standard doesn't matter.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is what the GOP is now. It's entirely filled by grifters who find some way to tap into peoples' dissatisfaction with Democrats. It has nothing to do with ideas or ideology or charisma or even anger in some cases. Mtg got in with qanon. Matt gaetz got in by having a rich dad. George Santos got in because it was a good year for Republicans in new york. And trump got in because he ran against Hillary Clinton.\nNobody cares about the results. They probably don't even care about the current trans panic. They stopped caring about the election years ago. And now they don't even care about q. \nThis is the modern republican party. And by the looks of it they overdosed on nihilism",
">\n\nI'm so exhausted living in a world with adult babies.",
">\n\nMuch prefer the diaper lovers, at least they keep to themselves.",
">\n\nHe could smell the money. It's all about the grift. Tomorrow I could start being a right wing grifter and within a year be a millionaire....\nHey, wait a minute. Excuse me...",
">\n\nMan the amount of times I have thought \"ya know if it weren't for this pesky conscience, I could be rich right now, just gotta tell the sheep what they want to hear and they will throw their money at you.\"\nBut I would feel bad about fleecing people out of their money, so I don't. Morals always getting in the way of making money...",
">\n\nIt's a problem. I couldn't live with myself.",
">\n\nRight?\nIve been tempted to start a megachurch so many times, but I would feel so horrible lying to those people to extract their money from them.",
">\n\nMaybe starting a new religion isn’t a bad thing. All religions are more like clustered philosophies and sets of rules on how to live a good life; the mythology and associated deities are secondary to that purpose\nIt wouldn’t be hard to make a new religion more ethical than Mormonism at least",
">\n\nI've had that thought, call it the Church of Autotheism, and base it around the idea we are all our own gods, in that we are responsible for our own actions, and the consequences of those actions. We are gods because we change the world every time we interact it with, no matter how minor that interaction is or how subtle the change caused is.\nThe hope being that if you make people aware of their actions and the consequences that they would choose to be good. Which is probably wishful thinking at best.",
">\n\nIt would fail as a religion\n\n\nEvery religion advocates for consequentialism. Every single one.\n\n\nThe purpose of Gods whether they be Allah, Buddha, Vishnu, Ahura Mazda, The Jade Emperor, etc. is to remind people that human beings are not Gods; that human beings are ultimately falliable and that there is a reason mankind is in a fallen state, whether it be sin, haram, desire, karma, etc. Religion doesn’t work without a direct figure of worship for this reason",
">\n\nYea I know. It doesn't come with that fear of divine or cosmic retribution that hooks people.\nCan't scare people if you whole thing is \"everything is chaos, nothing means anything, so why not try being nice to each other to make things more pleasant?\" except dressed up in theological language.",
">\n\nIsnt he wanted for some crimes back in brazil?",
">\n\nBeing an extreme right wing operative is much more profitable.",
">\n\nEspecially if you're a minority. They'll build you the biggest, most expensive pedestal you've ever seen so they can show the world \"See? We can't possibly be oppressors! Here is someone we want to oppress that agrees with us!“\nAnd when you've finally helped them accomplish their goals, you'll have the honor of being second against the wall.\nAnyway, what this guy claimed years ago and what this guy claims today simply doesn't matter. His word is worthless and trying to sort the truth from the lies is a fools errand. \nHe may not even know the answer himself.",
">\n\nRemember that even in nazi germany there were Jews agreeing, supporting, and collaborating with Hitler. Only to end up in concentration camps in the end.",
">\n\nSame reason Trump switched.\nConservatives are ripe for the taking and have zero critical thinking skills.",
">\n\nSame reason for the difference in advertisements you see in conservative media. They will buy anything. All sorts of random pills, gold scams, objective trash as seen on TV stuff, scam finance stuff, etc, etc. All of this on prime time cable. You don't see them on regular media because market research is telling advertisers that conservatives are the stupidest demographic.",
">\n\nPart of me just wants to create a non profit and milk these idiots dry and then just keep 95% of the donations for running the non profit…\nEasy money.",
">\n\n\"Ted Nugent's Fund For Repossessing Mexicans' food? Sign me the fuck up\"\nActually it's me and my bros using their money to buy all the tacos we can eat...",
">\n\nI'm so ready for this idiot to be out of the news. Can he just resign in disgrace already?",
">\n\nLol it's cute if you think politicians still resign in this day",
">\n\nDemocrats resign in disgrace. \nRepublicans just keep on doubling down to the cheers of their voters.",
">\n\nDemocrats resign over fucking nothing. \nFucking nothing makes a Republican resign.",
">\n\nI'm honestly worried Biden might resign over these documents found in his residence...",
">\n\nNot worried. The presidents daily schedule is top secret. But eventually outdated and useless info. He probably kept the schedules with his notes and didn’t think it was really an issue to people with common sense. Time will tell. Except for on Fox News.",
">\n\nSeems like he had the same \"I can make so much money grifting the idiots on the right\" idea that I've had many times.\nOnly difference is that he's actually twisted enough to go out and do it. I say I'll do it quite often, but I'm not shitty enough to go through with it.",
">\n\nI have had this thought so many times as a bilingual x missionary kid. If we ran together we could make a killing! :P",
">\n\nI was a Bible Thumper, went to Christian school.. Oh man I could tute the tune on the horn they play. Like a fucking fiddle it would be so easy.",
">\n\nChristian college here bud, join the ticket.",
">\n\nChristian high school, christian college, white with blond hair and parents are rich, and born and raised in the south. It would be sooo easy.",
">\n\nYou are invited too bud, we need a vet and we're fuckin set.",
">\n\nHell ya! Let’s put this religious trauma to use",
">\n\nI'm an old ass left coast librul and I welcome this chaos magic.",
">\n\nFantastic work, did you train a model with every George Santos picture you could find?",
">\n\nTrained w about 30 pics.",
">\n\nI'm impressed",
">\n\nCriminals recognize criminals. I’m convinced any person running with an R next to their name at this point is strictly an opportunistic grifter with zero interest in governing",
">\n\nWas this comment written in the late 1980's. Ronald Reagan...",
">\n\nThe precise moment productivity and wages set off on their separate journeys and never spoke again.",
">\n\nAww come on that money gonna trickle down any year now...",
">\n\nProof that anyone that can lie can be an elected republican",
">\n\nDude, it’s getting sad at this point.\nIt’s blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention, and I hate to say it because again it makes me sad, but conservatives are rubes. These people have progressively seen how gullible they are and now there’s a feeding frenzy. \nThey smelled blood in the water when they saw Trump’s popularity rose prior to the 2016 election and they haven’t stopped since.",
">\n\n\"If that idiot can grift so can I\"",
">\n\nImagine if we took money out of politics and politicians were only working for the betterment of the people. We wouldn't have nearly as many of these stories where a conservative person is looking down on or doing something they say they're against.\nShit, if our politicians weren't suckling the teat of the rich we would likely have healthcare, people would be fed, and this manufactured inflation that's making us all poorer would have been nipped I'm the bud back when they first thought they could pull one over on the working class. \nInstead, we just get the stick.",
">\n\nTake the excess campaign dollars out of it. Don’t allow ANY money to be donated. Let every candidate start with the same dollar amount, maybe 5-10 million raised from donations and use it for expenses as they tour across the country, meeting the voters. Once the campaign money is gone, it’s gone. A bipartisan site online could accept the donations for any candidate and keep a running total of money received. Have TV debates, with the understanding that anyone breaking the rules will be immediately muted, and asked to leave. Have town hall meetings. Get politics back to the PEOPLE, to grassroots campaigns that don’t spend $100 million on one candidate. It levels the playing field for anyone to run that can raise $10 million through grassroots efforts. No politician should be beholden to huge campaign contributors. Do away with lobbying! Our country can be run better by a humanitarian,and a great administration of extremely qualified individuals. Military, Finance, Social issues, Education, Intelligence, Veterans issues, etc. we have to change the way the US is run, including elections. The richest people in the country are BUYING politicians…something the majority of the country can’t compete in, and don’t want to compete in. It would be wonderful to start voting in people based on their intelligence, their character, and their history and background. People who were overachievers in high school, college, and work. Vetting for every candidate, and any negative findings that are related to morals is disqualifying. Whoever is running this country need to be above reproach. Maybe Hakeem Jeffries, who has a great track record and is younger and more enthusiastic that anyone in the Republican Party He’s done so much for his constituents, that it’s obvious he’s a good man , and very intelligent",
">\n\nI agree with everything you said except the Hakeem Jeffries part. He takes tons of campaign bribes from multiple industries. There are democrats in the house of representatives with much cleaner records than him.",
">\n\nSantos is whoever he needs to be to pull a scam.",
">\n\nHe didn't didn't run on a whim. Someone \"encouraged\" him. Trace the origin of his money.",
">\n\nTrump has been a registered Democrat, Reformer & Republican.\nGrifters go where the money is at.",
">\n\nbeing a republican politician is basically an extremely immoral form of drag when you think about it.",
">\n\nI am now convinced that he got all of his money from the Republican party. I'm convinced that they knew he was lying all along, and they did whatever they could to get him elected. Why? Because he provides a really good distraction. While we're all watching the George Santos show, the Republicans are quietly destroying democracy.",
">\n\nHe knew it would be easy to fool a bunch of conservatives, and unfortunately he was right. Bunch of easy marks.",
">\n\nWhenever I run across a gay Republican (and they are definitely out there) I immediately assume they’re a sociopath.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian, who's perpetually befuddled by American politics, I'm amazed that someone with that gay of a face is flashing white power symbols.",
">\n\nIs George even Tony’s real name?",
">\n\nHe didn't just pop up out of nowhere and win a race all on his own. Someone chose him to be the front-man, organized, and paid for his campaign. Be interesting to find out who that was.",
">\n\nThis dude is a distraction. I’m not super into politics but I have a feeling that someone is doing some really shady shit and it being overlooked for this low hanging piece of shit.",
">\n\nIs it just me or are right wingers their own unique brand of especially gullible marks? I mean, scams don't have a political leaning but there's a lot of ways to make money selling explicitly right wing nonsense.",
">\n\nSo basically, New York elected Borat to Congress.",
">\n\nRepublicans elected him to congress",
">\n\nNo not at all, he won the Long Island district that almost always votes democrat. But it’s got a large Jewish population so he lied about being Jewish.",
">\n\nLong Islanders continue to be the stupidest fucking people",
">\n\nI'm still grappling with the fact that people care more about when he dressed up in costume as a different gender, rather than the extensive lies about his credentials.",
">\n\nI don't think \"they\" do. I.e. I think most normal people realize all that other shit is waaay worse. But everyone is wondering what the deal-breaker will be for the GOP, and you'd think that'd be proof he was a drag queen, hence the attention that's getting.\nIOW it's just evidence of how low our expectations are of the Republicans.",
">\n\nIf only I was shameless and doesn't care how much people will hate me, I definitely would run for a republican office.",
">\n\nIf you’re a conman trying to get money from political campaigns conservatives are an easy mark.",
">\n\nThere's a reason people right-wing grift. Easy money. It's also why the left-wing grift isn't a thing.",
">\n\nI’m noticing a trend with all these right wing psychos, there’s a whole lot of South Americans and Cubans in their ranks.",
">\n\nI knew the water circled the drain differently when crossing the equator, but this is ridiculous.",
">\n\nThis thread doesn't deserve your comment.",
">\n\nHe saw how gullible the Right is and how to exploit them for $",
">\n\nHe's not right or left. He's a con man. And the smart voters in NY actually voted him into office. Maybe do some research before you vote and don't vote along party lines.",
">\n\nIt’s just the last part, and they won’t.",
">\n\nMaybe he is a Trojan horse",
">\n\nOr a Trojan rep",
">\n\nHe did what Trump did, realized who the stupid people were and joined their side.",
">\n\nIs this dude getting cawthorned? Do Republicans make them go and commit kompromat before they support them?",
">\n\nThis will be the thing that really angers the Right....",
">\n\nGeorge Santo is a Lizard Person e.g. a Chameleon changing to his current environment in order to survive and prosper.",
">\n\nSome people flip flop between political extremes. On a rare occation it means they have an open mind. More often than not, they are just fools, though.",
">\n\nIt is so tragic that his family was in the holocaust and his mother died at the towers on 911",
">\n\nPure sociopath wil say anything to anyone",
">\n\nYou mean turn into a Russian agent for money and power beyond his imagination to hurt a country he didn't give a flying rat's ass about? He's not even a traitor - he's just working for Papa Putin to fuck the Americans.",
">\n\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent",
">\n\nOpportunistic Brazilian ConArtist",
">\n\nThis just goes to show why vetting processes need to happen before someone is elected",
">\n\nHe's one of those, like Trump, that is whatever is most convenient at that moment. Not really anything at all when you cut down to the deepest layer. \nTrump and Hillary were such friends that he invited her to his wedding. Years later, he's this alt-right champion. It's ridiculous and barely covers the fact that he will play any side that benefits him. Just like this boy Santos. Both sociopathic liars with fragile egos and shaky claims to any thing remotely verifiable as truth.",
">\n\nUndiagnosed personality disorders are all around us.",
">\n\nSays a lot about George Santos that I believe a random Drag Artist in Brazil over the elected politician George Santos \nCaveat, Not that I wouldnt believe something a person says (drag artist or not), but if random people came out on the internet and said, “Trump randomly said to me one time he loves Democrat policies and was a huge Obama fan” I’d be like, “Okay, random person, Trumps a shitty person but I doubt that.” George Santos is such a fucking liar I’m like, “She probably telling the truth”",
">\n\nEvery day this looks more like a borat movie in real life.",
">\n\nIF America had rejected tRump, this pathological liar, wouldn't be here now.",
">\n\nI don't know about everyone else but I'm starting to think that this guy might not be the most trustworthy",
">\n\nWho is this person? He fooled so many.",
">\n\nHe saw a reality tv star play a role upon a mountain of lies and now he thinks he can too.",
">\n\nMaybe the left is missing the message here. Run as republican, be outraged by all the silly shit that Ra yell at, but then vote leftwing.\nPretend to be a right-wing nut job, but vote left",
">\n\nBecause this is how you get elected and get a fuckton of money, obviously. It's easy to do. Look at Musk and Trump - also previously non-nationalists (but always grifters) capitalizing on the rightzis' lunacy and hysteria. 'Pay me if you want to survive the assault on white identity and religion' is a ~~powerful~~ profitable message.",
">\n\nR/conservative",
">\n\nCon-men have no political philosophies, just scams.",
">\n\nThese fucks just want fame. They don’t care which side they’re on, just as long as they see themselves in the paper, on the news and internet. Narcissists.",
">\n\nHe wasn’t a “Leftist” but he certainly has all the familiar traits of a sociopathic Conservative. Georgieboi will say and do anything to get what he wants. It is your stereotypical malignant Narcissist.",
">\n\nSleeper agent?",
">\n\nThe reason for “this crazy thing” is called money. He was obviously bought by some group to run as a gay republican to get votes in a contested district, and it worked. All efforts should be put in it tracking down who paid him to do this and creating strong ethical standards for elected officials",
">\n\nI can guarantee you he didn't just recently turn crazy",
">\n\nIf the song was about Santos, it basically would have been I met a drag queen, she was horrible, I went somewhere else.",
">\n\nI'm gonna channel my inner Obi Wan and ask who's more foolish, the fool, or the fool who votes for him?",
">\n\nThis is how politics works in the US. Hasan and his uncle Cenk talk about this all the time. Going the right wing route is a way more profitable route. For a lot of them its just a grift. The marks/voters are an extremely manipulable bunch, and the funders (billionaires/corporations) have big pockets",
">\n\nHonestly, I think this guy is awesome. Taking the republican clown archetype to the absolute extreme and exposing just how corrupt and ridiculous they are as they fumble to continue supporting him.",
">\n\nDiamond and Silk were rabid left wingers until they realized the grift opportunities were much better on the other side.",
">\n\n🎶🎶 Money money money, must be funny, in a rich man's world. 🎶🎶🎶🎶",
">\n\nThe USA- where literally anyone can come and become a right wing biggot.",
">\n\nStick that man's brain in a pigeon and it will fly backwards...",
">\n\nHe is nothing but an opportunist.",
">\n\nWe really need to see this guy’s birth certificate.",
">\n\nThe oppo researchers in the NY Democratic Party should be sacked. Honestly. How the hell did this guy get through a whole campaign without this coming out?",
">\n\nIt did come out. And local press covered it. It’s just that nobody gave a shit…",
">\n\nCrazy thing = scam artist and probable Russian plant",
">\n\nMy guess is he’s always been a pathological liar and doesn’t have any convictions or principles",
">\n\nHe never supported anything except his own enrichment. The guy is a psycho and always has been.",
">\n\nIs it that odd? I do believe a number of current conservatives both in the media and in politics were at one point pretty liberal, but when they found out they couldn't make money off it, they went to the right.",
">\n\nGrift is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nI don't think he actually believes his own shit, but I do wonder if he is being paid off by a foreign power to help destabilize the US",
">\n\nBasically one-upping Kyrsten Sinema",
">\n\nWhy is he not being recalled by his district ?",
">\n\nWhose payroll is he on?",
">\n\nI just wish this article was about Matt Gaetz",
">\n\nSimilar to people like Trump or Candice Owens. These people have no ideology just the grift path of least resistance.",
">\n\nAll these formerly hidden fun facts about ol' George here are sooo interesting. He's just a never-ending fount of delightful surprises!\nP.S. Did you know that George Santos lassos rampaging bulls with his penis?",
">\n\nYeah, he probably lied about all that too",
">\n\nDamn, I never thought anyone on the republican team could do their makeup better than Trump, but I was wrong!",
">\n\nSir Lies a lot",
">\n\nHe didn’t change. He was always a liar. I wouldn’t be shocked if he was a straight up\nPsychopath.",
">\n\nPrevious Jobs Drag Artist…\nRepublicans: i think we can be a good match and we have a job offer for you.",
">\n\nPlease can someone make a visual timeline of this man’s life and lies? It’s so complicated that I can’t understand the full history of when he showed up in politics and the claims he’s made. It’s too convoluted to comprehend. I need bullet points. Or drawrings.",
">\n\nWho is this guy? Like he could be some sleeper agent",
">\n\nso he's clearly either an opportunist, or a legit crazy person... or both",
">\n\nThis story doesn’t even seem real.",
">\n\n“Article I, Section 2, Clause 2: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.”\nHow did he get into congress if you need to be a U.S. citizen for at least 7 years?",
">\n\nHe wanted progressive policies for his own country. He's happy to profit from destroying this one.",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is Glenn Greenwald?",
">\n\nI've never seen him and Kyrsten Sinema in the same room together.\nI'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'",
">\n\nWhich sounds more realistic?\n1) hundreds and hundreds of people are all lying about one person, across continents\n2) one person is lying A BUNCH.",
">\n\nI want to know if he's actually a US citizen, or if just lied about that like everything else.",
">\n\nAre we sure that \"George Santos\" is not just a Sacha Baron Cohen project at this point?",
">\n\nThis is literally full grift mode mask off. There isn't any hard evidence a guy like Dave Rubin switches to the right for money, but we all know it's true.\nThis grift has receipts.",
">\n\nHe goes where the grift is. Right now the maga crowd is so reactionary and blinded by the identity politics of the right that they don't notice their pockets being picked",
">\n\nThe crazy theory of him being actually an actor working for Sasha Baron Cohen sounds less and less crazy every day.",
">\n\nProbably just a grifter who saw where the suckers were at. People like him don't have any real political beliefs.",
">\n\nThe quote that stood out to me is “he wanted to be famous, no matter what.” He got his wish.",
">\n\nSo he’s drag Trump?",
">\n\nMany people are actually left leaning and for policies that benefit many people, all people. Until they move to the US, and are fed “patriotic” adjectives by the GOP. \nI.e. my in laws.",
">\n\nOr he just knew which party would be more receptive to grift",
">\n\nIt’s so nice to see the GOP, the party of \"facts and logic,” standing by a party member known to be so honest and truthful...",
">\n\nRepublicans need to stop endorsing con-men and Yahoos. The Republican Party is looking like some kind of Clown Party.",
">\n\nIt’s like bizarro Kyrsten Sinema… is he a democrat plant for revenge purposes? /s?",
">\n\nWhat if he's trying to infiltrate the enemy and do a double-cross and we all blew his cover?",
">\n\nAll the crazy that Russian money could buy.",
">\n\nYeah, these types of people stand for nothing.\nThey just shift into whatever the environment calls for.",
">\n\nMakes u really wonder what plans he has for any confidential information he may be privy to during his term.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to me how this happens. Like there was no real Republican that was interested in the office so they just went with this guy? Like how does it happen.",
">\n\nThis is a real republican...",
">\n\nIs he the Cousin of Ronnette Desantis from Florida???",
">\n\nThis guy is nuts. When I first saw stories of this dude I thought he looked off af. His look just didn’t fit. Like a skinwalker. And every story, including this one, has only affirmed those instincts more. Uncanny valley in the modern age.",
">\n\nHas Glenn Greenwald gotten on the case yet being an investigative journalist who lives in Brazil???",
">\n\nMan just wanted some free healthcare for life",
">\n\nEver read “Kiss of the Spider Woman?” A flamboyant gay drag queen in South America is joyfully apolitical even as the government is cracking down on people like him. This makes him an easy mark, and in return for little favors the fascists turn him into a double agent working for them instead.",
">\n\nIt’s easy to get elected if you just spew enough hate into the right people.",
">\n\nIt would be so easy to be a right wing grifter",
">\n\nHe probably got introduced to Putin by Glenn Greenwald.",
">\n\nIf this whole thing turns out to be some piece of performance art. I will admit it's impressive.",
">\n\nHe has to be friends with Glen Greenwald",
">\n\nCapitalism consumes those with a weak mind. Makes sense Santos betrayed the left and gave in to the vast wealth the conservative movement offered. Dude was an opportunist, and the GOP gullible rich assholes. Perfect marriage",
">\n\nThey love how the crazies distract the libs so much that they'll keep electing them until it's the GCP.",
">\n\nLauren Boebert was a sugar baby found through a casting website.\nThe whole plan is to make sure that tons of clown candidates break through.\nIt creates the narrative that all government is corrupt and we need a strong fascist to fix things. \"I mean, you don't see the Democrats doing anything to stop Santos or MTG or Boebert...\" they'll argue as they throw Santos out.",
">\n\n\"Crazy\" is more likely to be accepted by the Republican party, the Democrats would have turned him away.",
">\n\n\"this crazy thing\" being your standard political grifter?",
">\n\nThe Big Reveal: He is Andy Kaufman.",
">\n\nNo it's a republicans so desperate to win a seat in any district that even crazy are on the menu.",
">\n\nLike Trump and Musk, too. I guess it takes far less effort to gather and keep idiots as constituents",
">\n\nI feel at this point I need a docuseries about what the hell is going on with this guy.",
">\n\nDuh. He followed the money. So did Trump. And Candice Owens.",
">\n\nMoney is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nOut of the many characteristics he has, his most outstanding feature is his ability to lie. So he turned to the party of liars.",
">\n\nIt’s always the same shit. Some loser tried and failed to fit in with leftists because they had a shallow grasp on progressivism and were more interested with personal gain and were willing to abandon everything they claimed they stood for, all so that they can go grift and get money from conservatives making themselves out to be “one of the good ones”. Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, George santos, Jimmy dore, the list goes on.",
">\n\nWhen they can no longer defend him in the face of the mudslide of lies, they say he's a \"leftist\". Lol omg seriously? He never went anywhere as a Democrat. This idiot is a con artist pure and simple. He got elected Ted as a GOP Rep. Those are the facts.",
">\n\nJust like most of the other GOP they look at their job as entertainment and personal gain. It's all a game to them like going to Vegas.",
">\n\nWhat kind of art do they do?"
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"He knew conservatives would be the easiest marks. He was right.",
">\n\nIf I pulled a grift on Republican voters, I'd immediately flip to Democrat after winning election.\nI am reasonably confident I could continue to manipulate them even as a Democrat lmao",
">\n\nAh, the Sinema strategy.",
">\n\nNot terribly smart. Sinema might want to make money as a lobbyist after she leaves politics but she has almost no good relations with either the Democrats or GOP. Her grifter tactics are going to backfire hard",
">\n\nWhen you make more money than you can spend in a lifetime, does it matter",
">\n\nGiven her whole \"prada-socialist\" gimmick from a few years ago, I'm going to bet she has a spending problem.",
">\n\nthat article was oddly enthralling thank you",
">\n\nHaha I thought the same thing. Glad you enjoyed it",
">\n\nThe best part of this is watching the lack of integrity of his fellow republicans get exposed as they jump through hoops to keep supporting him.",
">\n\nI had the thought of \"what if that's the point of the long con\" but immediately shot that down because consistency, integrity, and appearances don't matter. Them being caught in a double standard doesn't matter.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is what the GOP is now. It's entirely filled by grifters who find some way to tap into peoples' dissatisfaction with Democrats. It has nothing to do with ideas or ideology or charisma or even anger in some cases. Mtg got in with qanon. Matt gaetz got in by having a rich dad. George Santos got in because it was a good year for Republicans in new york. And trump got in because he ran against Hillary Clinton.\nNobody cares about the results. They probably don't even care about the current trans panic. They stopped caring about the election years ago. And now they don't even care about q. \nThis is the modern republican party. And by the looks of it they overdosed on nihilism",
">\n\nI'm so exhausted living in a world with adult babies.",
">\n\nMuch prefer the diaper lovers, at least they keep to themselves.",
">\n\nHe could smell the money. It's all about the grift. Tomorrow I could start being a right wing grifter and within a year be a millionaire....\nHey, wait a minute. Excuse me...",
">\n\nMan the amount of times I have thought \"ya know if it weren't for this pesky conscience, I could be rich right now, just gotta tell the sheep what they want to hear and they will throw their money at you.\"\nBut I would feel bad about fleecing people out of their money, so I don't. Morals always getting in the way of making money...",
">\n\nIt's a problem. I couldn't live with myself.",
">\n\nRight?\nIve been tempted to start a megachurch so many times, but I would feel so horrible lying to those people to extract their money from them.",
">\n\nMaybe starting a new religion isn’t a bad thing. All religions are more like clustered philosophies and sets of rules on how to live a good life; the mythology and associated deities are secondary to that purpose\nIt wouldn’t be hard to make a new religion more ethical than Mormonism at least",
">\n\nI've had that thought, call it the Church of Autotheism, and base it around the idea we are all our own gods, in that we are responsible for our own actions, and the consequences of those actions. We are gods because we change the world every time we interact it with, no matter how minor that interaction is or how subtle the change caused is.\nThe hope being that if you make people aware of their actions and the consequences that they would choose to be good. Which is probably wishful thinking at best.",
">\n\nIt would fail as a religion\n\n\nEvery religion advocates for consequentialism. Every single one.\n\n\nThe purpose of Gods whether they be Allah, Buddha, Vishnu, Ahura Mazda, The Jade Emperor, etc. is to remind people that human beings are not Gods; that human beings are ultimately falliable and that there is a reason mankind is in a fallen state, whether it be sin, haram, desire, karma, etc. Religion doesn’t work without a direct figure of worship for this reason",
">\n\nYea I know. It doesn't come with that fear of divine or cosmic retribution that hooks people.\nCan't scare people if you whole thing is \"everything is chaos, nothing means anything, so why not try being nice to each other to make things more pleasant?\" except dressed up in theological language.",
">\n\nIsnt he wanted for some crimes back in brazil?",
">\n\nBeing an extreme right wing operative is much more profitable.",
">\n\nEspecially if you're a minority. They'll build you the biggest, most expensive pedestal you've ever seen so they can show the world \"See? We can't possibly be oppressors! Here is someone we want to oppress that agrees with us!“\nAnd when you've finally helped them accomplish their goals, you'll have the honor of being second against the wall.\nAnyway, what this guy claimed years ago and what this guy claims today simply doesn't matter. His word is worthless and trying to sort the truth from the lies is a fools errand. \nHe may not even know the answer himself.",
">\n\nRemember that even in nazi germany there were Jews agreeing, supporting, and collaborating with Hitler. Only to end up in concentration camps in the end.",
">\n\nSame reason Trump switched.\nConservatives are ripe for the taking and have zero critical thinking skills.",
">\n\nSame reason for the difference in advertisements you see in conservative media. They will buy anything. All sorts of random pills, gold scams, objective trash as seen on TV stuff, scam finance stuff, etc, etc. All of this on prime time cable. You don't see them on regular media because market research is telling advertisers that conservatives are the stupidest demographic.",
">\n\nPart of me just wants to create a non profit and milk these idiots dry and then just keep 95% of the donations for running the non profit…\nEasy money.",
">\n\n\"Ted Nugent's Fund For Repossessing Mexicans' food? Sign me the fuck up\"\nActually it's me and my bros using their money to buy all the tacos we can eat...",
">\n\nI'm so ready for this idiot to be out of the news. Can he just resign in disgrace already?",
">\n\nLol it's cute if you think politicians still resign in this day",
">\n\nDemocrats resign in disgrace. \nRepublicans just keep on doubling down to the cheers of their voters.",
">\n\nDemocrats resign over fucking nothing. \nFucking nothing makes a Republican resign.",
">\n\nI'm honestly worried Biden might resign over these documents found in his residence...",
">\n\nNot worried. The presidents daily schedule is top secret. But eventually outdated and useless info. He probably kept the schedules with his notes and didn’t think it was really an issue to people with common sense. Time will tell. Except for on Fox News.",
">\n\nSeems like he had the same \"I can make so much money grifting the idiots on the right\" idea that I've had many times.\nOnly difference is that he's actually twisted enough to go out and do it. I say I'll do it quite often, but I'm not shitty enough to go through with it.",
">\n\nI have had this thought so many times as a bilingual x missionary kid. If we ran together we could make a killing! :P",
">\n\nI was a Bible Thumper, went to Christian school.. Oh man I could tute the tune on the horn they play. Like a fucking fiddle it would be so easy.",
">\n\nChristian college here bud, join the ticket.",
">\n\nChristian high school, christian college, white with blond hair and parents are rich, and born and raised in the south. It would be sooo easy.",
">\n\nYou are invited too bud, we need a vet and we're fuckin set.",
">\n\nHell ya! Let’s put this religious trauma to use",
">\n\nI'm an old ass left coast librul and I welcome this chaos magic.",
">\n\nFantastic work, did you train a model with every George Santos picture you could find?",
">\n\nTrained w about 30 pics.",
">\n\nI'm impressed",
">\n\nCriminals recognize criminals. I’m convinced any person running with an R next to their name at this point is strictly an opportunistic grifter with zero interest in governing",
">\n\nWas this comment written in the late 1980's. Ronald Reagan...",
">\n\nThe precise moment productivity and wages set off on their separate journeys and never spoke again.",
">\n\nAww come on that money gonna trickle down any year now...",
">\n\nProof that anyone that can lie can be an elected republican",
">\n\nDude, it’s getting sad at this point.\nIt’s blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention, and I hate to say it because again it makes me sad, but conservatives are rubes. These people have progressively seen how gullible they are and now there’s a feeding frenzy. \nThey smelled blood in the water when they saw Trump’s popularity rose prior to the 2016 election and they haven’t stopped since.",
">\n\n\"If that idiot can grift so can I\"",
">\n\nImagine if we took money out of politics and politicians were only working for the betterment of the people. We wouldn't have nearly as many of these stories where a conservative person is looking down on or doing something they say they're against.\nShit, if our politicians weren't suckling the teat of the rich we would likely have healthcare, people would be fed, and this manufactured inflation that's making us all poorer would have been nipped I'm the bud back when they first thought they could pull one over on the working class. \nInstead, we just get the stick.",
">\n\nTake the excess campaign dollars out of it. Don’t allow ANY money to be donated. Let every candidate start with the same dollar amount, maybe 5-10 million raised from donations and use it for expenses as they tour across the country, meeting the voters. Once the campaign money is gone, it’s gone. A bipartisan site online could accept the donations for any candidate and keep a running total of money received. Have TV debates, with the understanding that anyone breaking the rules will be immediately muted, and asked to leave. Have town hall meetings. Get politics back to the PEOPLE, to grassroots campaigns that don’t spend $100 million on one candidate. It levels the playing field for anyone to run that can raise $10 million through grassroots efforts. No politician should be beholden to huge campaign contributors. Do away with lobbying! Our country can be run better by a humanitarian,and a great administration of extremely qualified individuals. Military, Finance, Social issues, Education, Intelligence, Veterans issues, etc. we have to change the way the US is run, including elections. The richest people in the country are BUYING politicians…something the majority of the country can’t compete in, and don’t want to compete in. It would be wonderful to start voting in people based on their intelligence, their character, and their history and background. People who were overachievers in high school, college, and work. Vetting for every candidate, and any negative findings that are related to morals is disqualifying. Whoever is running this country need to be above reproach. Maybe Hakeem Jeffries, who has a great track record and is younger and more enthusiastic that anyone in the Republican Party He’s done so much for his constituents, that it’s obvious he’s a good man , and very intelligent",
">\n\nI agree with everything you said except the Hakeem Jeffries part. He takes tons of campaign bribes from multiple industries. There are democrats in the house of representatives with much cleaner records than him.",
">\n\nSantos is whoever he needs to be to pull a scam.",
">\n\nHe didn't didn't run on a whim. Someone \"encouraged\" him. Trace the origin of his money.",
">\n\nTrump has been a registered Democrat, Reformer & Republican.\nGrifters go where the money is at.",
">\n\nbeing a republican politician is basically an extremely immoral form of drag when you think about it.",
">\n\nI am now convinced that he got all of his money from the Republican party. I'm convinced that they knew he was lying all along, and they did whatever they could to get him elected. Why? Because he provides a really good distraction. While we're all watching the George Santos show, the Republicans are quietly destroying democracy.",
">\n\nHe knew it would be easy to fool a bunch of conservatives, and unfortunately he was right. Bunch of easy marks.",
">\n\nWhenever I run across a gay Republican (and they are definitely out there) I immediately assume they’re a sociopath.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian, who's perpetually befuddled by American politics, I'm amazed that someone with that gay of a face is flashing white power symbols.",
">\n\nIs George even Tony’s real name?",
">\n\nHe didn't just pop up out of nowhere and win a race all on his own. Someone chose him to be the front-man, organized, and paid for his campaign. Be interesting to find out who that was.",
">\n\nThis dude is a distraction. I’m not super into politics but I have a feeling that someone is doing some really shady shit and it being overlooked for this low hanging piece of shit.",
">\n\nIs it just me or are right wingers their own unique brand of especially gullible marks? I mean, scams don't have a political leaning but there's a lot of ways to make money selling explicitly right wing nonsense.",
">\n\nSo basically, New York elected Borat to Congress.",
">\n\nRepublicans elected him to congress",
">\n\nNo not at all, he won the Long Island district that almost always votes democrat. But it’s got a large Jewish population so he lied about being Jewish.",
">\n\nLong Islanders continue to be the stupidest fucking people",
">\n\nI'm still grappling with the fact that people care more about when he dressed up in costume as a different gender, rather than the extensive lies about his credentials.",
">\n\nI don't think \"they\" do. I.e. I think most normal people realize all that other shit is waaay worse. But everyone is wondering what the deal-breaker will be for the GOP, and you'd think that'd be proof he was a drag queen, hence the attention that's getting.\nIOW it's just evidence of how low our expectations are of the Republicans.",
">\n\nIf only I was shameless and doesn't care how much people will hate me, I definitely would run for a republican office.",
">\n\nIf you’re a conman trying to get money from political campaigns conservatives are an easy mark.",
">\n\nThere's a reason people right-wing grift. Easy money. It's also why the left-wing grift isn't a thing.",
">\n\nI’m noticing a trend with all these right wing psychos, there’s a whole lot of South Americans and Cubans in their ranks.",
">\n\nI knew the water circled the drain differently when crossing the equator, but this is ridiculous.",
">\n\nThis thread doesn't deserve your comment.",
">\n\nHe saw how gullible the Right is and how to exploit them for $",
">\n\nHe's not right or left. He's a con man. And the smart voters in NY actually voted him into office. Maybe do some research before you vote and don't vote along party lines.",
">\n\nIt’s just the last part, and they won’t.",
">\n\nMaybe he is a Trojan horse",
">\n\nOr a Trojan rep",
">\n\nHe did what Trump did, realized who the stupid people were and joined their side.",
">\n\nIs this dude getting cawthorned? Do Republicans make them go and commit kompromat before they support them?",
">\n\nThis will be the thing that really angers the Right....",
">\n\nGeorge Santo is a Lizard Person e.g. a Chameleon changing to his current environment in order to survive and prosper.",
">\n\nSome people flip flop between political extremes. On a rare occation it means they have an open mind. More often than not, they are just fools, though.",
">\n\nIt is so tragic that his family was in the holocaust and his mother died at the towers on 911",
">\n\nPure sociopath wil say anything to anyone",
">\n\nYou mean turn into a Russian agent for money and power beyond his imagination to hurt a country he didn't give a flying rat's ass about? He's not even a traitor - he's just working for Papa Putin to fuck the Americans.",
">\n\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent",
">\n\nOpportunistic Brazilian ConArtist",
">\n\nThis just goes to show why vetting processes need to happen before someone is elected",
">\n\nHe's one of those, like Trump, that is whatever is most convenient at that moment. Not really anything at all when you cut down to the deepest layer. \nTrump and Hillary were such friends that he invited her to his wedding. Years later, he's this alt-right champion. It's ridiculous and barely covers the fact that he will play any side that benefits him. Just like this boy Santos. Both sociopathic liars with fragile egos and shaky claims to any thing remotely verifiable as truth.",
">\n\nUndiagnosed personality disorders are all around us.",
">\n\nSays a lot about George Santos that I believe a random Drag Artist in Brazil over the elected politician George Santos \nCaveat, Not that I wouldnt believe something a person says (drag artist or not), but if random people came out on the internet and said, “Trump randomly said to me one time he loves Democrat policies and was a huge Obama fan” I’d be like, “Okay, random person, Trumps a shitty person but I doubt that.” George Santos is such a fucking liar I’m like, “She probably telling the truth”",
">\n\nEvery day this looks more like a borat movie in real life.",
">\n\nIF America had rejected tRump, this pathological liar, wouldn't be here now.",
">\n\nI don't know about everyone else but I'm starting to think that this guy might not be the most trustworthy",
">\n\nWho is this person? He fooled so many.",
">\n\nHe saw a reality tv star play a role upon a mountain of lies and now he thinks he can too.",
">\n\nMaybe the left is missing the message here. Run as republican, be outraged by all the silly shit that Ra yell at, but then vote leftwing.\nPretend to be a right-wing nut job, but vote left",
">\n\nBecause this is how you get elected and get a fuckton of money, obviously. It's easy to do. Look at Musk and Trump - also previously non-nationalists (but always grifters) capitalizing on the rightzis' lunacy and hysteria. 'Pay me if you want to survive the assault on white identity and religion' is a ~~powerful~~ profitable message.",
">\n\nR/conservative",
">\n\nCon-men have no political philosophies, just scams.",
">\n\nThese fucks just want fame. They don’t care which side they’re on, just as long as they see themselves in the paper, on the news and internet. Narcissists.",
">\n\nHe wasn’t a “Leftist” but he certainly has all the familiar traits of a sociopathic Conservative. Georgieboi will say and do anything to get what he wants. It is your stereotypical malignant Narcissist.",
">\n\nSleeper agent?",
">\n\nThe reason for “this crazy thing” is called money. He was obviously bought by some group to run as a gay republican to get votes in a contested district, and it worked. All efforts should be put in it tracking down who paid him to do this and creating strong ethical standards for elected officials",
">\n\nI can guarantee you he didn't just recently turn crazy",
">\n\nIf the song was about Santos, it basically would have been I met a drag queen, she was horrible, I went somewhere else.",
">\n\nI'm gonna channel my inner Obi Wan and ask who's more foolish, the fool, or the fool who votes for him?",
">\n\nThis is how politics works in the US. Hasan and his uncle Cenk talk about this all the time. Going the right wing route is a way more profitable route. For a lot of them its just a grift. The marks/voters are an extremely manipulable bunch, and the funders (billionaires/corporations) have big pockets",
">\n\nHonestly, I think this guy is awesome. Taking the republican clown archetype to the absolute extreme and exposing just how corrupt and ridiculous they are as they fumble to continue supporting him.",
">\n\nDiamond and Silk were rabid left wingers until they realized the grift opportunities were much better on the other side.",
">\n\n🎶🎶 Money money money, must be funny, in a rich man's world. 🎶🎶🎶🎶",
">\n\nThe USA- where literally anyone can come and become a right wing biggot.",
">\n\nStick that man's brain in a pigeon and it will fly backwards...",
">\n\nHe is nothing but an opportunist.",
">\n\nWe really need to see this guy’s birth certificate.",
">\n\nThe oppo researchers in the NY Democratic Party should be sacked. Honestly. How the hell did this guy get through a whole campaign without this coming out?",
">\n\nIt did come out. And local press covered it. It’s just that nobody gave a shit…",
">\n\nCrazy thing = scam artist and probable Russian plant",
">\n\nMy guess is he’s always been a pathological liar and doesn’t have any convictions or principles",
">\n\nHe never supported anything except his own enrichment. The guy is a psycho and always has been.",
">\n\nIs it that odd? I do believe a number of current conservatives both in the media and in politics were at one point pretty liberal, but when they found out they couldn't make money off it, they went to the right.",
">\n\nGrift is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nI don't think he actually believes his own shit, but I do wonder if he is being paid off by a foreign power to help destabilize the US",
">\n\nBasically one-upping Kyrsten Sinema",
">\n\nWhy is he not being recalled by his district ?",
">\n\nWhose payroll is he on?",
">\n\nI just wish this article was about Matt Gaetz",
">\n\nSimilar to people like Trump or Candice Owens. These people have no ideology just the grift path of least resistance.",
">\n\nAll these formerly hidden fun facts about ol' George here are sooo interesting. He's just a never-ending fount of delightful surprises!\nP.S. Did you know that George Santos lassos rampaging bulls with his penis?",
">\n\nYeah, he probably lied about all that too",
">\n\nDamn, I never thought anyone on the republican team could do their makeup better than Trump, but I was wrong!",
">\n\nSir Lies a lot",
">\n\nHe didn’t change. He was always a liar. I wouldn’t be shocked if he was a straight up\nPsychopath.",
">\n\nPrevious Jobs Drag Artist…\nRepublicans: i think we can be a good match and we have a job offer for you.",
">\n\nPlease can someone make a visual timeline of this man’s life and lies? It’s so complicated that I can’t understand the full history of when he showed up in politics and the claims he’s made. It’s too convoluted to comprehend. I need bullet points. Or drawrings.",
">\n\nWho is this guy? Like he could be some sleeper agent",
">\n\nso he's clearly either an opportunist, or a legit crazy person... or both",
">\n\nThis story doesn’t even seem real.",
">\n\n“Article I, Section 2, Clause 2: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.”\nHow did he get into congress if you need to be a U.S. citizen for at least 7 years?",
">\n\nHe wanted progressive policies for his own country. He's happy to profit from destroying this one.",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is Glenn Greenwald?",
">\n\nI've never seen him and Kyrsten Sinema in the same room together.\nI'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'",
">\n\nWhich sounds more realistic?\n1) hundreds and hundreds of people are all lying about one person, across continents\n2) one person is lying A BUNCH.",
">\n\nI want to know if he's actually a US citizen, or if just lied about that like everything else.",
">\n\nAre we sure that \"George Santos\" is not just a Sacha Baron Cohen project at this point?",
">\n\nThis is literally full grift mode mask off. There isn't any hard evidence a guy like Dave Rubin switches to the right for money, but we all know it's true.\nThis grift has receipts.",
">\n\nHe goes where the grift is. Right now the maga crowd is so reactionary and blinded by the identity politics of the right that they don't notice their pockets being picked",
">\n\nThe crazy theory of him being actually an actor working for Sasha Baron Cohen sounds less and less crazy every day.",
">\n\nProbably just a grifter who saw where the suckers were at. People like him don't have any real political beliefs.",
">\n\nThe quote that stood out to me is “he wanted to be famous, no matter what.” He got his wish.",
">\n\nSo he’s drag Trump?",
">\n\nMany people are actually left leaning and for policies that benefit many people, all people. Until they move to the US, and are fed “patriotic” adjectives by the GOP. \nI.e. my in laws.",
">\n\nOr he just knew which party would be more receptive to grift",
">\n\nIt’s so nice to see the GOP, the party of \"facts and logic,” standing by a party member known to be so honest and truthful...",
">\n\nRepublicans need to stop endorsing con-men and Yahoos. The Republican Party is looking like some kind of Clown Party.",
">\n\nIt’s like bizarro Kyrsten Sinema… is he a democrat plant for revenge purposes? /s?",
">\n\nWhat if he's trying to infiltrate the enemy and do a double-cross and we all blew his cover?",
">\n\nAll the crazy that Russian money could buy.",
">\n\nYeah, these types of people stand for nothing.\nThey just shift into whatever the environment calls for.",
">\n\nMakes u really wonder what plans he has for any confidential information he may be privy to during his term.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to me how this happens. Like there was no real Republican that was interested in the office so they just went with this guy? Like how does it happen.",
">\n\nThis is a real republican...",
">\n\nIs he the Cousin of Ronnette Desantis from Florida???",
">\n\nThis guy is nuts. When I first saw stories of this dude I thought he looked off af. His look just didn’t fit. Like a skinwalker. And every story, including this one, has only affirmed those instincts more. Uncanny valley in the modern age.",
">\n\nHas Glenn Greenwald gotten on the case yet being an investigative journalist who lives in Brazil???",
">\n\nMan just wanted some free healthcare for life",
">\n\nEver read “Kiss of the Spider Woman?” A flamboyant gay drag queen in South America is joyfully apolitical even as the government is cracking down on people like him. This makes him an easy mark, and in return for little favors the fascists turn him into a double agent working for them instead.",
">\n\nIt’s easy to get elected if you just spew enough hate into the right people.",
">\n\nIt would be so easy to be a right wing grifter",
">\n\nHe probably got introduced to Putin by Glenn Greenwald.",
">\n\nIf this whole thing turns out to be some piece of performance art. I will admit it's impressive.",
">\n\nHe has to be friends with Glen Greenwald",
">\n\nCapitalism consumes those with a weak mind. Makes sense Santos betrayed the left and gave in to the vast wealth the conservative movement offered. Dude was an opportunist, and the GOP gullible rich assholes. Perfect marriage",
">\n\nThey love how the crazies distract the libs so much that they'll keep electing them until it's the GCP.",
">\n\nLauren Boebert was a sugar baby found through a casting website.\nThe whole plan is to make sure that tons of clown candidates break through.\nIt creates the narrative that all government is corrupt and we need a strong fascist to fix things. \"I mean, you don't see the Democrats doing anything to stop Santos or MTG or Boebert...\" they'll argue as they throw Santos out.",
">\n\n\"Crazy\" is more likely to be accepted by the Republican party, the Democrats would have turned him away.",
">\n\n\"this crazy thing\" being your standard political grifter?",
">\n\nThe Big Reveal: He is Andy Kaufman.",
">\n\nNo it's a republicans so desperate to win a seat in any district that even crazy are on the menu.",
">\n\nLike Trump and Musk, too. I guess it takes far less effort to gather and keep idiots as constituents",
">\n\nI feel at this point I need a docuseries about what the hell is going on with this guy.",
">\n\nDuh. He followed the money. So did Trump. And Candice Owens.",
">\n\nMoney is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nOut of the many characteristics he has, his most outstanding feature is his ability to lie. So he turned to the party of liars.",
">\n\nIt’s always the same shit. Some loser tried and failed to fit in with leftists because they had a shallow grasp on progressivism and were more interested with personal gain and were willing to abandon everything they claimed they stood for, all so that they can go grift and get money from conservatives making themselves out to be “one of the good ones”. Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, George santos, Jimmy dore, the list goes on.",
">\n\nWhen they can no longer defend him in the face of the mudslide of lies, they say he's a \"leftist\". Lol omg seriously? He never went anywhere as a Democrat. This idiot is a con artist pure and simple. He got elected Ted as a GOP Rep. Those are the facts.",
">\n\nJust like most of the other GOP they look at their job as entertainment and personal gain. It's all a game to them like going to Vegas.",
">\n\nWhat kind of art do they do?",
">\n\nThe American Dream."
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And this is the Republican Party in a nutshell. No background checks. Just wants a seat in congress!
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"He knew conservatives would be the easiest marks. He was right.",
">\n\nIf I pulled a grift on Republican voters, I'd immediately flip to Democrat after winning election.\nI am reasonably confident I could continue to manipulate them even as a Democrat lmao",
">\n\nAh, the Sinema strategy.",
">\n\nNot terribly smart. Sinema might want to make money as a lobbyist after she leaves politics but she has almost no good relations with either the Democrats or GOP. Her grifter tactics are going to backfire hard",
">\n\nWhen you make more money than you can spend in a lifetime, does it matter",
">\n\nGiven her whole \"prada-socialist\" gimmick from a few years ago, I'm going to bet she has a spending problem.",
">\n\nthat article was oddly enthralling thank you",
">\n\nHaha I thought the same thing. Glad you enjoyed it",
">\n\nThe best part of this is watching the lack of integrity of his fellow republicans get exposed as they jump through hoops to keep supporting him.",
">\n\nI had the thought of \"what if that's the point of the long con\" but immediately shot that down because consistency, integrity, and appearances don't matter. Them being caught in a double standard doesn't matter.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is what the GOP is now. It's entirely filled by grifters who find some way to tap into peoples' dissatisfaction with Democrats. It has nothing to do with ideas or ideology or charisma or even anger in some cases. Mtg got in with qanon. Matt gaetz got in by having a rich dad. George Santos got in because it was a good year for Republicans in new york. And trump got in because he ran against Hillary Clinton.\nNobody cares about the results. They probably don't even care about the current trans panic. They stopped caring about the election years ago. And now they don't even care about q. \nThis is the modern republican party. And by the looks of it they overdosed on nihilism",
">\n\nI'm so exhausted living in a world with adult babies.",
">\n\nMuch prefer the diaper lovers, at least they keep to themselves.",
">\n\nHe could smell the money. It's all about the grift. Tomorrow I could start being a right wing grifter and within a year be a millionaire....\nHey, wait a minute. Excuse me...",
">\n\nMan the amount of times I have thought \"ya know if it weren't for this pesky conscience, I could be rich right now, just gotta tell the sheep what they want to hear and they will throw their money at you.\"\nBut I would feel bad about fleecing people out of their money, so I don't. Morals always getting in the way of making money...",
">\n\nIt's a problem. I couldn't live with myself.",
">\n\nRight?\nIve been tempted to start a megachurch so many times, but I would feel so horrible lying to those people to extract their money from them.",
">\n\nMaybe starting a new religion isn’t a bad thing. All religions are more like clustered philosophies and sets of rules on how to live a good life; the mythology and associated deities are secondary to that purpose\nIt wouldn’t be hard to make a new religion more ethical than Mormonism at least",
">\n\nI've had that thought, call it the Church of Autotheism, and base it around the idea we are all our own gods, in that we are responsible for our own actions, and the consequences of those actions. We are gods because we change the world every time we interact it with, no matter how minor that interaction is or how subtle the change caused is.\nThe hope being that if you make people aware of their actions and the consequences that they would choose to be good. Which is probably wishful thinking at best.",
">\n\nIt would fail as a religion\n\n\nEvery religion advocates for consequentialism. Every single one.\n\n\nThe purpose of Gods whether they be Allah, Buddha, Vishnu, Ahura Mazda, The Jade Emperor, etc. is to remind people that human beings are not Gods; that human beings are ultimately falliable and that there is a reason mankind is in a fallen state, whether it be sin, haram, desire, karma, etc. Religion doesn’t work without a direct figure of worship for this reason",
">\n\nYea I know. It doesn't come with that fear of divine or cosmic retribution that hooks people.\nCan't scare people if you whole thing is \"everything is chaos, nothing means anything, so why not try being nice to each other to make things more pleasant?\" except dressed up in theological language.",
">\n\nIsnt he wanted for some crimes back in brazil?",
">\n\nBeing an extreme right wing operative is much more profitable.",
">\n\nEspecially if you're a minority. They'll build you the biggest, most expensive pedestal you've ever seen so they can show the world \"See? We can't possibly be oppressors! Here is someone we want to oppress that agrees with us!“\nAnd when you've finally helped them accomplish their goals, you'll have the honor of being second against the wall.\nAnyway, what this guy claimed years ago and what this guy claims today simply doesn't matter. His word is worthless and trying to sort the truth from the lies is a fools errand. \nHe may not even know the answer himself.",
">\n\nRemember that even in nazi germany there were Jews agreeing, supporting, and collaborating with Hitler. Only to end up in concentration camps in the end.",
">\n\nSame reason Trump switched.\nConservatives are ripe for the taking and have zero critical thinking skills.",
">\n\nSame reason for the difference in advertisements you see in conservative media. They will buy anything. All sorts of random pills, gold scams, objective trash as seen on TV stuff, scam finance stuff, etc, etc. All of this on prime time cable. You don't see them on regular media because market research is telling advertisers that conservatives are the stupidest demographic.",
">\n\nPart of me just wants to create a non profit and milk these idiots dry and then just keep 95% of the donations for running the non profit…\nEasy money.",
">\n\n\"Ted Nugent's Fund For Repossessing Mexicans' food? Sign me the fuck up\"\nActually it's me and my bros using their money to buy all the tacos we can eat...",
">\n\nI'm so ready for this idiot to be out of the news. Can he just resign in disgrace already?",
">\n\nLol it's cute if you think politicians still resign in this day",
">\n\nDemocrats resign in disgrace. \nRepublicans just keep on doubling down to the cheers of their voters.",
">\n\nDemocrats resign over fucking nothing. \nFucking nothing makes a Republican resign.",
">\n\nI'm honestly worried Biden might resign over these documents found in his residence...",
">\n\nNot worried. The presidents daily schedule is top secret. But eventually outdated and useless info. He probably kept the schedules with his notes and didn’t think it was really an issue to people with common sense. Time will tell. Except for on Fox News.",
">\n\nSeems like he had the same \"I can make so much money grifting the idiots on the right\" idea that I've had many times.\nOnly difference is that he's actually twisted enough to go out and do it. I say I'll do it quite often, but I'm not shitty enough to go through with it.",
">\n\nI have had this thought so many times as a bilingual x missionary kid. If we ran together we could make a killing! :P",
">\n\nI was a Bible Thumper, went to Christian school.. Oh man I could tute the tune on the horn they play. Like a fucking fiddle it would be so easy.",
">\n\nChristian college here bud, join the ticket.",
">\n\nChristian high school, christian college, white with blond hair and parents are rich, and born and raised in the south. It would be sooo easy.",
">\n\nYou are invited too bud, we need a vet and we're fuckin set.",
">\n\nHell ya! Let’s put this religious trauma to use",
">\n\nI'm an old ass left coast librul and I welcome this chaos magic.",
">\n\nFantastic work, did you train a model with every George Santos picture you could find?",
">\n\nTrained w about 30 pics.",
">\n\nI'm impressed",
">\n\nCriminals recognize criminals. I’m convinced any person running with an R next to their name at this point is strictly an opportunistic grifter with zero interest in governing",
">\n\nWas this comment written in the late 1980's. Ronald Reagan...",
">\n\nThe precise moment productivity and wages set off on their separate journeys and never spoke again.",
">\n\nAww come on that money gonna trickle down any year now...",
">\n\nProof that anyone that can lie can be an elected republican",
">\n\nDude, it’s getting sad at this point.\nIt’s blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention, and I hate to say it because again it makes me sad, but conservatives are rubes. These people have progressively seen how gullible they are and now there’s a feeding frenzy. \nThey smelled blood in the water when they saw Trump’s popularity rose prior to the 2016 election and they haven’t stopped since.",
">\n\n\"If that idiot can grift so can I\"",
">\n\nImagine if we took money out of politics and politicians were only working for the betterment of the people. We wouldn't have nearly as many of these stories where a conservative person is looking down on or doing something they say they're against.\nShit, if our politicians weren't suckling the teat of the rich we would likely have healthcare, people would be fed, and this manufactured inflation that's making us all poorer would have been nipped I'm the bud back when they first thought they could pull one over on the working class. \nInstead, we just get the stick.",
">\n\nTake the excess campaign dollars out of it. Don’t allow ANY money to be donated. Let every candidate start with the same dollar amount, maybe 5-10 million raised from donations and use it for expenses as they tour across the country, meeting the voters. Once the campaign money is gone, it’s gone. A bipartisan site online could accept the donations for any candidate and keep a running total of money received. Have TV debates, with the understanding that anyone breaking the rules will be immediately muted, and asked to leave. Have town hall meetings. Get politics back to the PEOPLE, to grassroots campaigns that don’t spend $100 million on one candidate. It levels the playing field for anyone to run that can raise $10 million through grassroots efforts. No politician should be beholden to huge campaign contributors. Do away with lobbying! Our country can be run better by a humanitarian,and a great administration of extremely qualified individuals. Military, Finance, Social issues, Education, Intelligence, Veterans issues, etc. we have to change the way the US is run, including elections. The richest people in the country are BUYING politicians…something the majority of the country can’t compete in, and don’t want to compete in. It would be wonderful to start voting in people based on their intelligence, their character, and their history and background. People who were overachievers in high school, college, and work. Vetting for every candidate, and any negative findings that are related to morals is disqualifying. Whoever is running this country need to be above reproach. Maybe Hakeem Jeffries, who has a great track record and is younger and more enthusiastic that anyone in the Republican Party He’s done so much for his constituents, that it’s obvious he’s a good man , and very intelligent",
">\n\nI agree with everything you said except the Hakeem Jeffries part. He takes tons of campaign bribes from multiple industries. There are democrats in the house of representatives with much cleaner records than him.",
">\n\nSantos is whoever he needs to be to pull a scam.",
">\n\nHe didn't didn't run on a whim. Someone \"encouraged\" him. Trace the origin of his money.",
">\n\nTrump has been a registered Democrat, Reformer & Republican.\nGrifters go where the money is at.",
">\n\nbeing a republican politician is basically an extremely immoral form of drag when you think about it.",
">\n\nI am now convinced that he got all of his money from the Republican party. I'm convinced that they knew he was lying all along, and they did whatever they could to get him elected. Why? Because he provides a really good distraction. While we're all watching the George Santos show, the Republicans are quietly destroying democracy.",
">\n\nHe knew it would be easy to fool a bunch of conservatives, and unfortunately he was right. Bunch of easy marks.",
">\n\nWhenever I run across a gay Republican (and they are definitely out there) I immediately assume they’re a sociopath.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian, who's perpetually befuddled by American politics, I'm amazed that someone with that gay of a face is flashing white power symbols.",
">\n\nIs George even Tony’s real name?",
">\n\nHe didn't just pop up out of nowhere and win a race all on his own. Someone chose him to be the front-man, organized, and paid for his campaign. Be interesting to find out who that was.",
">\n\nThis dude is a distraction. I’m not super into politics but I have a feeling that someone is doing some really shady shit and it being overlooked for this low hanging piece of shit.",
">\n\nIs it just me or are right wingers their own unique brand of especially gullible marks? I mean, scams don't have a political leaning but there's a lot of ways to make money selling explicitly right wing nonsense.",
">\n\nSo basically, New York elected Borat to Congress.",
">\n\nRepublicans elected him to congress",
">\n\nNo not at all, he won the Long Island district that almost always votes democrat. But it’s got a large Jewish population so he lied about being Jewish.",
">\n\nLong Islanders continue to be the stupidest fucking people",
">\n\nI'm still grappling with the fact that people care more about when he dressed up in costume as a different gender, rather than the extensive lies about his credentials.",
">\n\nI don't think \"they\" do. I.e. I think most normal people realize all that other shit is waaay worse. But everyone is wondering what the deal-breaker will be for the GOP, and you'd think that'd be proof he was a drag queen, hence the attention that's getting.\nIOW it's just evidence of how low our expectations are of the Republicans.",
">\n\nIf only I was shameless and doesn't care how much people will hate me, I definitely would run for a republican office.",
">\n\nIf you’re a conman trying to get money from political campaigns conservatives are an easy mark.",
">\n\nThere's a reason people right-wing grift. Easy money. It's also why the left-wing grift isn't a thing.",
">\n\nI’m noticing a trend with all these right wing psychos, there’s a whole lot of South Americans and Cubans in their ranks.",
">\n\nI knew the water circled the drain differently when crossing the equator, but this is ridiculous.",
">\n\nThis thread doesn't deserve your comment.",
">\n\nHe saw how gullible the Right is and how to exploit them for $",
">\n\nHe's not right or left. He's a con man. And the smart voters in NY actually voted him into office. Maybe do some research before you vote and don't vote along party lines.",
">\n\nIt’s just the last part, and they won’t.",
">\n\nMaybe he is a Trojan horse",
">\n\nOr a Trojan rep",
">\n\nHe did what Trump did, realized who the stupid people were and joined their side.",
">\n\nIs this dude getting cawthorned? Do Republicans make them go and commit kompromat before they support them?",
">\n\nThis will be the thing that really angers the Right....",
">\n\nGeorge Santo is a Lizard Person e.g. a Chameleon changing to his current environment in order to survive and prosper.",
">\n\nSome people flip flop between political extremes. On a rare occation it means they have an open mind. More often than not, they are just fools, though.",
">\n\nIt is so tragic that his family was in the holocaust and his mother died at the towers on 911",
">\n\nPure sociopath wil say anything to anyone",
">\n\nYou mean turn into a Russian agent for money and power beyond his imagination to hurt a country he didn't give a flying rat's ass about? He's not even a traitor - he's just working for Papa Putin to fuck the Americans.",
">\n\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent",
">\n\nOpportunistic Brazilian ConArtist",
">\n\nThis just goes to show why vetting processes need to happen before someone is elected",
">\n\nHe's one of those, like Trump, that is whatever is most convenient at that moment. Not really anything at all when you cut down to the deepest layer. \nTrump and Hillary were such friends that he invited her to his wedding. Years later, he's this alt-right champion. It's ridiculous and barely covers the fact that he will play any side that benefits him. Just like this boy Santos. Both sociopathic liars with fragile egos and shaky claims to any thing remotely verifiable as truth.",
">\n\nUndiagnosed personality disorders are all around us.",
">\n\nSays a lot about George Santos that I believe a random Drag Artist in Brazil over the elected politician George Santos \nCaveat, Not that I wouldnt believe something a person says (drag artist or not), but if random people came out on the internet and said, “Trump randomly said to me one time he loves Democrat policies and was a huge Obama fan” I’d be like, “Okay, random person, Trumps a shitty person but I doubt that.” George Santos is such a fucking liar I’m like, “She probably telling the truth”",
">\n\nEvery day this looks more like a borat movie in real life.",
">\n\nIF America had rejected tRump, this pathological liar, wouldn't be here now.",
">\n\nI don't know about everyone else but I'm starting to think that this guy might not be the most trustworthy",
">\n\nWho is this person? He fooled so many.",
">\n\nHe saw a reality tv star play a role upon a mountain of lies and now he thinks he can too.",
">\n\nMaybe the left is missing the message here. Run as republican, be outraged by all the silly shit that Ra yell at, but then vote leftwing.\nPretend to be a right-wing nut job, but vote left",
">\n\nBecause this is how you get elected and get a fuckton of money, obviously. It's easy to do. Look at Musk and Trump - also previously non-nationalists (but always grifters) capitalizing on the rightzis' lunacy and hysteria. 'Pay me if you want to survive the assault on white identity and religion' is a ~~powerful~~ profitable message.",
">\n\nR/conservative",
">\n\nCon-men have no political philosophies, just scams.",
">\n\nThese fucks just want fame. They don’t care which side they’re on, just as long as they see themselves in the paper, on the news and internet. Narcissists.",
">\n\nHe wasn’t a “Leftist” but he certainly has all the familiar traits of a sociopathic Conservative. Georgieboi will say and do anything to get what he wants. It is your stereotypical malignant Narcissist.",
">\n\nSleeper agent?",
">\n\nThe reason for “this crazy thing” is called money. He was obviously bought by some group to run as a gay republican to get votes in a contested district, and it worked. All efforts should be put in it tracking down who paid him to do this and creating strong ethical standards for elected officials",
">\n\nI can guarantee you he didn't just recently turn crazy",
">\n\nIf the song was about Santos, it basically would have been I met a drag queen, she was horrible, I went somewhere else.",
">\n\nI'm gonna channel my inner Obi Wan and ask who's more foolish, the fool, or the fool who votes for him?",
">\n\nThis is how politics works in the US. Hasan and his uncle Cenk talk about this all the time. Going the right wing route is a way more profitable route. For a lot of them its just a grift. The marks/voters are an extremely manipulable bunch, and the funders (billionaires/corporations) have big pockets",
">\n\nHonestly, I think this guy is awesome. Taking the republican clown archetype to the absolute extreme and exposing just how corrupt and ridiculous they are as they fumble to continue supporting him.",
">\n\nDiamond and Silk were rabid left wingers until they realized the grift opportunities were much better on the other side.",
">\n\n🎶🎶 Money money money, must be funny, in a rich man's world. 🎶🎶🎶🎶",
">\n\nThe USA- where literally anyone can come and become a right wing biggot.",
">\n\nStick that man's brain in a pigeon and it will fly backwards...",
">\n\nHe is nothing but an opportunist.",
">\n\nWe really need to see this guy’s birth certificate.",
">\n\nThe oppo researchers in the NY Democratic Party should be sacked. Honestly. How the hell did this guy get through a whole campaign without this coming out?",
">\n\nIt did come out. And local press covered it. It’s just that nobody gave a shit…",
">\n\nCrazy thing = scam artist and probable Russian plant",
">\n\nMy guess is he’s always been a pathological liar and doesn’t have any convictions or principles",
">\n\nHe never supported anything except his own enrichment. The guy is a psycho and always has been.",
">\n\nIs it that odd? I do believe a number of current conservatives both in the media and in politics were at one point pretty liberal, but when they found out they couldn't make money off it, they went to the right.",
">\n\nGrift is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nI don't think he actually believes his own shit, but I do wonder if he is being paid off by a foreign power to help destabilize the US",
">\n\nBasically one-upping Kyrsten Sinema",
">\n\nWhy is he not being recalled by his district ?",
">\n\nWhose payroll is he on?",
">\n\nI just wish this article was about Matt Gaetz",
">\n\nSimilar to people like Trump or Candice Owens. These people have no ideology just the grift path of least resistance.",
">\n\nAll these formerly hidden fun facts about ol' George here are sooo interesting. He's just a never-ending fount of delightful surprises!\nP.S. Did you know that George Santos lassos rampaging bulls with his penis?",
">\n\nYeah, he probably lied about all that too",
">\n\nDamn, I never thought anyone on the republican team could do their makeup better than Trump, but I was wrong!",
">\n\nSir Lies a lot",
">\n\nHe didn’t change. He was always a liar. I wouldn’t be shocked if he was a straight up\nPsychopath.",
">\n\nPrevious Jobs Drag Artist…\nRepublicans: i think we can be a good match and we have a job offer for you.",
">\n\nPlease can someone make a visual timeline of this man’s life and lies? It’s so complicated that I can’t understand the full history of when he showed up in politics and the claims he’s made. It’s too convoluted to comprehend. I need bullet points. Or drawrings.",
">\n\nWho is this guy? Like he could be some sleeper agent",
">\n\nso he's clearly either an opportunist, or a legit crazy person... or both",
">\n\nThis story doesn’t even seem real.",
">\n\n“Article I, Section 2, Clause 2: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.”\nHow did he get into congress if you need to be a U.S. citizen for at least 7 years?",
">\n\nHe wanted progressive policies for his own country. He's happy to profit from destroying this one.",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is Glenn Greenwald?",
">\n\nI've never seen him and Kyrsten Sinema in the same room together.\nI'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'",
">\n\nWhich sounds more realistic?\n1) hundreds and hundreds of people are all lying about one person, across continents\n2) one person is lying A BUNCH.",
">\n\nI want to know if he's actually a US citizen, or if just lied about that like everything else.",
">\n\nAre we sure that \"George Santos\" is not just a Sacha Baron Cohen project at this point?",
">\n\nThis is literally full grift mode mask off. There isn't any hard evidence a guy like Dave Rubin switches to the right for money, but we all know it's true.\nThis grift has receipts.",
">\n\nHe goes where the grift is. Right now the maga crowd is so reactionary and blinded by the identity politics of the right that they don't notice their pockets being picked",
">\n\nThe crazy theory of him being actually an actor working for Sasha Baron Cohen sounds less and less crazy every day.",
">\n\nProbably just a grifter who saw where the suckers were at. People like him don't have any real political beliefs.",
">\n\nThe quote that stood out to me is “he wanted to be famous, no matter what.” He got his wish.",
">\n\nSo he’s drag Trump?",
">\n\nMany people are actually left leaning and for policies that benefit many people, all people. Until they move to the US, and are fed “patriotic” adjectives by the GOP. \nI.e. my in laws.",
">\n\nOr he just knew which party would be more receptive to grift",
">\n\nIt’s so nice to see the GOP, the party of \"facts and logic,” standing by a party member known to be so honest and truthful...",
">\n\nRepublicans need to stop endorsing con-men and Yahoos. The Republican Party is looking like some kind of Clown Party.",
">\n\nIt’s like bizarro Kyrsten Sinema… is he a democrat plant for revenge purposes? /s?",
">\n\nWhat if he's trying to infiltrate the enemy and do a double-cross and we all blew his cover?",
">\n\nAll the crazy that Russian money could buy.",
">\n\nYeah, these types of people stand for nothing.\nThey just shift into whatever the environment calls for.",
">\n\nMakes u really wonder what plans he has for any confidential information he may be privy to during his term.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to me how this happens. Like there was no real Republican that was interested in the office so they just went with this guy? Like how does it happen.",
">\n\nThis is a real republican...",
">\n\nIs he the Cousin of Ronnette Desantis from Florida???",
">\n\nThis guy is nuts. When I first saw stories of this dude I thought he looked off af. His look just didn’t fit. Like a skinwalker. And every story, including this one, has only affirmed those instincts more. Uncanny valley in the modern age.",
">\n\nHas Glenn Greenwald gotten on the case yet being an investigative journalist who lives in Brazil???",
">\n\nMan just wanted some free healthcare for life",
">\n\nEver read “Kiss of the Spider Woman?” A flamboyant gay drag queen in South America is joyfully apolitical even as the government is cracking down on people like him. This makes him an easy mark, and in return for little favors the fascists turn him into a double agent working for them instead.",
">\n\nIt’s easy to get elected if you just spew enough hate into the right people.",
">\n\nIt would be so easy to be a right wing grifter",
">\n\nHe probably got introduced to Putin by Glenn Greenwald.",
">\n\nIf this whole thing turns out to be some piece of performance art. I will admit it's impressive.",
">\n\nHe has to be friends with Glen Greenwald",
">\n\nCapitalism consumes those with a weak mind. Makes sense Santos betrayed the left and gave in to the vast wealth the conservative movement offered. Dude was an opportunist, and the GOP gullible rich assholes. Perfect marriage",
">\n\nThey love how the crazies distract the libs so much that they'll keep electing them until it's the GCP.",
">\n\nLauren Boebert was a sugar baby found through a casting website.\nThe whole plan is to make sure that tons of clown candidates break through.\nIt creates the narrative that all government is corrupt and we need a strong fascist to fix things. \"I mean, you don't see the Democrats doing anything to stop Santos or MTG or Boebert...\" they'll argue as they throw Santos out.",
">\n\n\"Crazy\" is more likely to be accepted by the Republican party, the Democrats would have turned him away.",
">\n\n\"this crazy thing\" being your standard political grifter?",
">\n\nThe Big Reveal: He is Andy Kaufman.",
">\n\nNo it's a republicans so desperate to win a seat in any district that even crazy are on the menu.",
">\n\nLike Trump and Musk, too. I guess it takes far less effort to gather and keep idiots as constituents",
">\n\nI feel at this point I need a docuseries about what the hell is going on with this guy.",
">\n\nDuh. He followed the money. So did Trump. And Candice Owens.",
">\n\nMoney is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nOut of the many characteristics he has, his most outstanding feature is his ability to lie. So he turned to the party of liars.",
">\n\nIt’s always the same shit. Some loser tried and failed to fit in with leftists because they had a shallow grasp on progressivism and were more interested with personal gain and were willing to abandon everything they claimed they stood for, all so that they can go grift and get money from conservatives making themselves out to be “one of the good ones”. Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, George santos, Jimmy dore, the list goes on.",
">\n\nWhen they can no longer defend him in the face of the mudslide of lies, they say he's a \"leftist\". Lol omg seriously? He never went anywhere as a Democrat. This idiot is a con artist pure and simple. He got elected Ted as a GOP Rep. Those are the facts.",
">\n\nJust like most of the other GOP they look at their job as entertainment and personal gain. It's all a game to them like going to Vegas.",
">\n\nWhat kind of art do they do?",
">\n\nThe American Dream.",
">\n\nTroll level: 1000"
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This is just like new Mexican immigrants like Paola Ramos who was right-wing in Mexico yet when they come to the U.S. they are left wing.
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"He knew conservatives would be the easiest marks. He was right.",
">\n\nIf I pulled a grift on Republican voters, I'd immediately flip to Democrat after winning election.\nI am reasonably confident I could continue to manipulate them even as a Democrat lmao",
">\n\nAh, the Sinema strategy.",
">\n\nNot terribly smart. Sinema might want to make money as a lobbyist after she leaves politics but she has almost no good relations with either the Democrats or GOP. Her grifter tactics are going to backfire hard",
">\n\nWhen you make more money than you can spend in a lifetime, does it matter",
">\n\nGiven her whole \"prada-socialist\" gimmick from a few years ago, I'm going to bet she has a spending problem.",
">\n\nthat article was oddly enthralling thank you",
">\n\nHaha I thought the same thing. Glad you enjoyed it",
">\n\nThe best part of this is watching the lack of integrity of his fellow republicans get exposed as they jump through hoops to keep supporting him.",
">\n\nI had the thought of \"what if that's the point of the long con\" but immediately shot that down because consistency, integrity, and appearances don't matter. Them being caught in a double standard doesn't matter.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is what the GOP is now. It's entirely filled by grifters who find some way to tap into peoples' dissatisfaction with Democrats. It has nothing to do with ideas or ideology or charisma or even anger in some cases. Mtg got in with qanon. Matt gaetz got in by having a rich dad. George Santos got in because it was a good year for Republicans in new york. And trump got in because he ran against Hillary Clinton.\nNobody cares about the results. They probably don't even care about the current trans panic. They stopped caring about the election years ago. And now they don't even care about q. \nThis is the modern republican party. And by the looks of it they overdosed on nihilism",
">\n\nI'm so exhausted living in a world with adult babies.",
">\n\nMuch prefer the diaper lovers, at least they keep to themselves.",
">\n\nHe could smell the money. It's all about the grift. Tomorrow I could start being a right wing grifter and within a year be a millionaire....\nHey, wait a minute. Excuse me...",
">\n\nMan the amount of times I have thought \"ya know if it weren't for this pesky conscience, I could be rich right now, just gotta tell the sheep what they want to hear and they will throw their money at you.\"\nBut I would feel bad about fleecing people out of their money, so I don't. Morals always getting in the way of making money...",
">\n\nIt's a problem. I couldn't live with myself.",
">\n\nRight?\nIve been tempted to start a megachurch so many times, but I would feel so horrible lying to those people to extract their money from them.",
">\n\nMaybe starting a new religion isn’t a bad thing. All religions are more like clustered philosophies and sets of rules on how to live a good life; the mythology and associated deities are secondary to that purpose\nIt wouldn’t be hard to make a new religion more ethical than Mormonism at least",
">\n\nI've had that thought, call it the Church of Autotheism, and base it around the idea we are all our own gods, in that we are responsible for our own actions, and the consequences of those actions. We are gods because we change the world every time we interact it with, no matter how minor that interaction is or how subtle the change caused is.\nThe hope being that if you make people aware of their actions and the consequences that they would choose to be good. Which is probably wishful thinking at best.",
">\n\nIt would fail as a religion\n\n\nEvery religion advocates for consequentialism. Every single one.\n\n\nThe purpose of Gods whether they be Allah, Buddha, Vishnu, Ahura Mazda, The Jade Emperor, etc. is to remind people that human beings are not Gods; that human beings are ultimately falliable and that there is a reason mankind is in a fallen state, whether it be sin, haram, desire, karma, etc. Religion doesn’t work without a direct figure of worship for this reason",
">\n\nYea I know. It doesn't come with that fear of divine or cosmic retribution that hooks people.\nCan't scare people if you whole thing is \"everything is chaos, nothing means anything, so why not try being nice to each other to make things more pleasant?\" except dressed up in theological language.",
">\n\nIsnt he wanted for some crimes back in brazil?",
">\n\nBeing an extreme right wing operative is much more profitable.",
">\n\nEspecially if you're a minority. They'll build you the biggest, most expensive pedestal you've ever seen so they can show the world \"See? We can't possibly be oppressors! Here is someone we want to oppress that agrees with us!“\nAnd when you've finally helped them accomplish their goals, you'll have the honor of being second against the wall.\nAnyway, what this guy claimed years ago and what this guy claims today simply doesn't matter. His word is worthless and trying to sort the truth from the lies is a fools errand. \nHe may not even know the answer himself.",
">\n\nRemember that even in nazi germany there were Jews agreeing, supporting, and collaborating with Hitler. Only to end up in concentration camps in the end.",
">\n\nSame reason Trump switched.\nConservatives are ripe for the taking and have zero critical thinking skills.",
">\n\nSame reason for the difference in advertisements you see in conservative media. They will buy anything. All sorts of random pills, gold scams, objective trash as seen on TV stuff, scam finance stuff, etc, etc. All of this on prime time cable. You don't see them on regular media because market research is telling advertisers that conservatives are the stupidest demographic.",
">\n\nPart of me just wants to create a non profit and milk these idiots dry and then just keep 95% of the donations for running the non profit…\nEasy money.",
">\n\n\"Ted Nugent's Fund For Repossessing Mexicans' food? Sign me the fuck up\"\nActually it's me and my bros using their money to buy all the tacos we can eat...",
">\n\nI'm so ready for this idiot to be out of the news. Can he just resign in disgrace already?",
">\n\nLol it's cute if you think politicians still resign in this day",
">\n\nDemocrats resign in disgrace. \nRepublicans just keep on doubling down to the cheers of their voters.",
">\n\nDemocrats resign over fucking nothing. \nFucking nothing makes a Republican resign.",
">\n\nI'm honestly worried Biden might resign over these documents found in his residence...",
">\n\nNot worried. The presidents daily schedule is top secret. But eventually outdated and useless info. He probably kept the schedules with his notes and didn’t think it was really an issue to people with common sense. Time will tell. Except for on Fox News.",
">\n\nSeems like he had the same \"I can make so much money grifting the idiots on the right\" idea that I've had many times.\nOnly difference is that he's actually twisted enough to go out and do it. I say I'll do it quite often, but I'm not shitty enough to go through with it.",
">\n\nI have had this thought so many times as a bilingual x missionary kid. If we ran together we could make a killing! :P",
">\n\nI was a Bible Thumper, went to Christian school.. Oh man I could tute the tune on the horn they play. Like a fucking fiddle it would be so easy.",
">\n\nChristian college here bud, join the ticket.",
">\n\nChristian high school, christian college, white with blond hair and parents are rich, and born and raised in the south. It would be sooo easy.",
">\n\nYou are invited too bud, we need a vet and we're fuckin set.",
">\n\nHell ya! Let’s put this religious trauma to use",
">\n\nI'm an old ass left coast librul and I welcome this chaos magic.",
">\n\nFantastic work, did you train a model with every George Santos picture you could find?",
">\n\nTrained w about 30 pics.",
">\n\nI'm impressed",
">\n\nCriminals recognize criminals. I’m convinced any person running with an R next to their name at this point is strictly an opportunistic grifter with zero interest in governing",
">\n\nWas this comment written in the late 1980's. Ronald Reagan...",
">\n\nThe precise moment productivity and wages set off on their separate journeys and never spoke again.",
">\n\nAww come on that money gonna trickle down any year now...",
">\n\nProof that anyone that can lie can be an elected republican",
">\n\nDude, it’s getting sad at this point.\nIt’s blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention, and I hate to say it because again it makes me sad, but conservatives are rubes. These people have progressively seen how gullible they are and now there’s a feeding frenzy. \nThey smelled blood in the water when they saw Trump’s popularity rose prior to the 2016 election and they haven’t stopped since.",
">\n\n\"If that idiot can grift so can I\"",
">\n\nImagine if we took money out of politics and politicians were only working for the betterment of the people. We wouldn't have nearly as many of these stories where a conservative person is looking down on or doing something they say they're against.\nShit, if our politicians weren't suckling the teat of the rich we would likely have healthcare, people would be fed, and this manufactured inflation that's making us all poorer would have been nipped I'm the bud back when they first thought they could pull one over on the working class. \nInstead, we just get the stick.",
">\n\nTake the excess campaign dollars out of it. Don’t allow ANY money to be donated. Let every candidate start with the same dollar amount, maybe 5-10 million raised from donations and use it for expenses as they tour across the country, meeting the voters. Once the campaign money is gone, it’s gone. A bipartisan site online could accept the donations for any candidate and keep a running total of money received. Have TV debates, with the understanding that anyone breaking the rules will be immediately muted, and asked to leave. Have town hall meetings. Get politics back to the PEOPLE, to grassroots campaigns that don’t spend $100 million on one candidate. It levels the playing field for anyone to run that can raise $10 million through grassroots efforts. No politician should be beholden to huge campaign contributors. Do away with lobbying! Our country can be run better by a humanitarian,and a great administration of extremely qualified individuals. Military, Finance, Social issues, Education, Intelligence, Veterans issues, etc. we have to change the way the US is run, including elections. The richest people in the country are BUYING politicians…something the majority of the country can’t compete in, and don’t want to compete in. It would be wonderful to start voting in people based on their intelligence, their character, and their history and background. People who were overachievers in high school, college, and work. Vetting for every candidate, and any negative findings that are related to morals is disqualifying. Whoever is running this country need to be above reproach. Maybe Hakeem Jeffries, who has a great track record and is younger and more enthusiastic that anyone in the Republican Party He’s done so much for his constituents, that it’s obvious he’s a good man , and very intelligent",
">\n\nI agree with everything you said except the Hakeem Jeffries part. He takes tons of campaign bribes from multiple industries. There are democrats in the house of representatives with much cleaner records than him.",
">\n\nSantos is whoever he needs to be to pull a scam.",
">\n\nHe didn't didn't run on a whim. Someone \"encouraged\" him. Trace the origin of his money.",
">\n\nTrump has been a registered Democrat, Reformer & Republican.\nGrifters go where the money is at.",
">\n\nbeing a republican politician is basically an extremely immoral form of drag when you think about it.",
">\n\nI am now convinced that he got all of his money from the Republican party. I'm convinced that they knew he was lying all along, and they did whatever they could to get him elected. Why? Because he provides a really good distraction. While we're all watching the George Santos show, the Republicans are quietly destroying democracy.",
">\n\nHe knew it would be easy to fool a bunch of conservatives, and unfortunately he was right. Bunch of easy marks.",
">\n\nWhenever I run across a gay Republican (and they are definitely out there) I immediately assume they’re a sociopath.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian, who's perpetually befuddled by American politics, I'm amazed that someone with that gay of a face is flashing white power symbols.",
">\n\nIs George even Tony’s real name?",
">\n\nHe didn't just pop up out of nowhere and win a race all on his own. Someone chose him to be the front-man, organized, and paid for his campaign. Be interesting to find out who that was.",
">\n\nThis dude is a distraction. I’m not super into politics but I have a feeling that someone is doing some really shady shit and it being overlooked for this low hanging piece of shit.",
">\n\nIs it just me or are right wingers their own unique brand of especially gullible marks? I mean, scams don't have a political leaning but there's a lot of ways to make money selling explicitly right wing nonsense.",
">\n\nSo basically, New York elected Borat to Congress.",
">\n\nRepublicans elected him to congress",
">\n\nNo not at all, he won the Long Island district that almost always votes democrat. But it’s got a large Jewish population so he lied about being Jewish.",
">\n\nLong Islanders continue to be the stupidest fucking people",
">\n\nI'm still grappling with the fact that people care more about when he dressed up in costume as a different gender, rather than the extensive lies about his credentials.",
">\n\nI don't think \"they\" do. I.e. I think most normal people realize all that other shit is waaay worse. But everyone is wondering what the deal-breaker will be for the GOP, and you'd think that'd be proof he was a drag queen, hence the attention that's getting.\nIOW it's just evidence of how low our expectations are of the Republicans.",
">\n\nIf only I was shameless and doesn't care how much people will hate me, I definitely would run for a republican office.",
">\n\nIf you’re a conman trying to get money from political campaigns conservatives are an easy mark.",
">\n\nThere's a reason people right-wing grift. Easy money. It's also why the left-wing grift isn't a thing.",
">\n\nI’m noticing a trend with all these right wing psychos, there’s a whole lot of South Americans and Cubans in their ranks.",
">\n\nI knew the water circled the drain differently when crossing the equator, but this is ridiculous.",
">\n\nThis thread doesn't deserve your comment.",
">\n\nHe saw how gullible the Right is and how to exploit them for $",
">\n\nHe's not right or left. He's a con man. And the smart voters in NY actually voted him into office. Maybe do some research before you vote and don't vote along party lines.",
">\n\nIt’s just the last part, and they won’t.",
">\n\nMaybe he is a Trojan horse",
">\n\nOr a Trojan rep",
">\n\nHe did what Trump did, realized who the stupid people were and joined their side.",
">\n\nIs this dude getting cawthorned? Do Republicans make them go and commit kompromat before they support them?",
">\n\nThis will be the thing that really angers the Right....",
">\n\nGeorge Santo is a Lizard Person e.g. a Chameleon changing to his current environment in order to survive and prosper.",
">\n\nSome people flip flop between political extremes. On a rare occation it means they have an open mind. More often than not, they are just fools, though.",
">\n\nIt is so tragic that his family was in the holocaust and his mother died at the towers on 911",
">\n\nPure sociopath wil say anything to anyone",
">\n\nYou mean turn into a Russian agent for money and power beyond his imagination to hurt a country he didn't give a flying rat's ass about? He's not even a traitor - he's just working for Papa Putin to fuck the Americans.",
">\n\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent",
">\n\nOpportunistic Brazilian ConArtist",
">\n\nThis just goes to show why vetting processes need to happen before someone is elected",
">\n\nHe's one of those, like Trump, that is whatever is most convenient at that moment. Not really anything at all when you cut down to the deepest layer. \nTrump and Hillary were such friends that he invited her to his wedding. Years later, he's this alt-right champion. It's ridiculous and barely covers the fact that he will play any side that benefits him. Just like this boy Santos. Both sociopathic liars with fragile egos and shaky claims to any thing remotely verifiable as truth.",
">\n\nUndiagnosed personality disorders are all around us.",
">\n\nSays a lot about George Santos that I believe a random Drag Artist in Brazil over the elected politician George Santos \nCaveat, Not that I wouldnt believe something a person says (drag artist or not), but if random people came out on the internet and said, “Trump randomly said to me one time he loves Democrat policies and was a huge Obama fan” I’d be like, “Okay, random person, Trumps a shitty person but I doubt that.” George Santos is such a fucking liar I’m like, “She probably telling the truth”",
">\n\nEvery day this looks more like a borat movie in real life.",
">\n\nIF America had rejected tRump, this pathological liar, wouldn't be here now.",
">\n\nI don't know about everyone else but I'm starting to think that this guy might not be the most trustworthy",
">\n\nWho is this person? He fooled so many.",
">\n\nHe saw a reality tv star play a role upon a mountain of lies and now he thinks he can too.",
">\n\nMaybe the left is missing the message here. Run as republican, be outraged by all the silly shit that Ra yell at, but then vote leftwing.\nPretend to be a right-wing nut job, but vote left",
">\n\nBecause this is how you get elected and get a fuckton of money, obviously. It's easy to do. Look at Musk and Trump - also previously non-nationalists (but always grifters) capitalizing on the rightzis' lunacy and hysteria. 'Pay me if you want to survive the assault on white identity and religion' is a ~~powerful~~ profitable message.",
">\n\nR/conservative",
">\n\nCon-men have no political philosophies, just scams.",
">\n\nThese fucks just want fame. They don’t care which side they’re on, just as long as they see themselves in the paper, on the news and internet. Narcissists.",
">\n\nHe wasn’t a “Leftist” but he certainly has all the familiar traits of a sociopathic Conservative. Georgieboi will say and do anything to get what he wants. It is your stereotypical malignant Narcissist.",
">\n\nSleeper agent?",
">\n\nThe reason for “this crazy thing” is called money. He was obviously bought by some group to run as a gay republican to get votes in a contested district, and it worked. All efforts should be put in it tracking down who paid him to do this and creating strong ethical standards for elected officials",
">\n\nI can guarantee you he didn't just recently turn crazy",
">\n\nIf the song was about Santos, it basically would have been I met a drag queen, she was horrible, I went somewhere else.",
">\n\nI'm gonna channel my inner Obi Wan and ask who's more foolish, the fool, or the fool who votes for him?",
">\n\nThis is how politics works in the US. Hasan and his uncle Cenk talk about this all the time. Going the right wing route is a way more profitable route. For a lot of them its just a grift. The marks/voters are an extremely manipulable bunch, and the funders (billionaires/corporations) have big pockets",
">\n\nHonestly, I think this guy is awesome. Taking the republican clown archetype to the absolute extreme and exposing just how corrupt and ridiculous they are as they fumble to continue supporting him.",
">\n\nDiamond and Silk were rabid left wingers until they realized the grift opportunities were much better on the other side.",
">\n\n🎶🎶 Money money money, must be funny, in a rich man's world. 🎶🎶🎶🎶",
">\n\nThe USA- where literally anyone can come and become a right wing biggot.",
">\n\nStick that man's brain in a pigeon and it will fly backwards...",
">\n\nHe is nothing but an opportunist.",
">\n\nWe really need to see this guy’s birth certificate.",
">\n\nThe oppo researchers in the NY Democratic Party should be sacked. Honestly. How the hell did this guy get through a whole campaign without this coming out?",
">\n\nIt did come out. And local press covered it. It’s just that nobody gave a shit…",
">\n\nCrazy thing = scam artist and probable Russian plant",
">\n\nMy guess is he’s always been a pathological liar and doesn’t have any convictions or principles",
">\n\nHe never supported anything except his own enrichment. The guy is a psycho and always has been.",
">\n\nIs it that odd? I do believe a number of current conservatives both in the media and in politics were at one point pretty liberal, but when they found out they couldn't make money off it, they went to the right.",
">\n\nGrift is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nI don't think he actually believes his own shit, but I do wonder if he is being paid off by a foreign power to help destabilize the US",
">\n\nBasically one-upping Kyrsten Sinema",
">\n\nWhy is he not being recalled by his district ?",
">\n\nWhose payroll is he on?",
">\n\nI just wish this article was about Matt Gaetz",
">\n\nSimilar to people like Trump or Candice Owens. These people have no ideology just the grift path of least resistance.",
">\n\nAll these formerly hidden fun facts about ol' George here are sooo interesting. He's just a never-ending fount of delightful surprises!\nP.S. Did you know that George Santos lassos rampaging bulls with his penis?",
">\n\nYeah, he probably lied about all that too",
">\n\nDamn, I never thought anyone on the republican team could do their makeup better than Trump, but I was wrong!",
">\n\nSir Lies a lot",
">\n\nHe didn’t change. He was always a liar. I wouldn’t be shocked if he was a straight up\nPsychopath.",
">\n\nPrevious Jobs Drag Artist…\nRepublicans: i think we can be a good match and we have a job offer for you.",
">\n\nPlease can someone make a visual timeline of this man’s life and lies? It’s so complicated that I can’t understand the full history of when he showed up in politics and the claims he’s made. It’s too convoluted to comprehend. I need bullet points. Or drawrings.",
">\n\nWho is this guy? Like he could be some sleeper agent",
">\n\nso he's clearly either an opportunist, or a legit crazy person... or both",
">\n\nThis story doesn’t even seem real.",
">\n\n“Article I, Section 2, Clause 2: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.”\nHow did he get into congress if you need to be a U.S. citizen for at least 7 years?",
">\n\nHe wanted progressive policies for his own country. He's happy to profit from destroying this one.",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is Glenn Greenwald?",
">\n\nI've never seen him and Kyrsten Sinema in the same room together.\nI'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'",
">\n\nWhich sounds more realistic?\n1) hundreds and hundreds of people are all lying about one person, across continents\n2) one person is lying A BUNCH.",
">\n\nI want to know if he's actually a US citizen, or if just lied about that like everything else.",
">\n\nAre we sure that \"George Santos\" is not just a Sacha Baron Cohen project at this point?",
">\n\nThis is literally full grift mode mask off. There isn't any hard evidence a guy like Dave Rubin switches to the right for money, but we all know it's true.\nThis grift has receipts.",
">\n\nHe goes where the grift is. Right now the maga crowd is so reactionary and blinded by the identity politics of the right that they don't notice their pockets being picked",
">\n\nThe crazy theory of him being actually an actor working for Sasha Baron Cohen sounds less and less crazy every day.",
">\n\nProbably just a grifter who saw where the suckers were at. People like him don't have any real political beliefs.",
">\n\nThe quote that stood out to me is “he wanted to be famous, no matter what.” He got his wish.",
">\n\nSo he’s drag Trump?",
">\n\nMany people are actually left leaning and for policies that benefit many people, all people. Until they move to the US, and are fed “patriotic” adjectives by the GOP. \nI.e. my in laws.",
">\n\nOr he just knew which party would be more receptive to grift",
">\n\nIt’s so nice to see the GOP, the party of \"facts and logic,” standing by a party member known to be so honest and truthful...",
">\n\nRepublicans need to stop endorsing con-men and Yahoos. The Republican Party is looking like some kind of Clown Party.",
">\n\nIt’s like bizarro Kyrsten Sinema… is he a democrat plant for revenge purposes? /s?",
">\n\nWhat if he's trying to infiltrate the enemy and do a double-cross and we all blew his cover?",
">\n\nAll the crazy that Russian money could buy.",
">\n\nYeah, these types of people stand for nothing.\nThey just shift into whatever the environment calls for.",
">\n\nMakes u really wonder what plans he has for any confidential information he may be privy to during his term.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to me how this happens. Like there was no real Republican that was interested in the office so they just went with this guy? Like how does it happen.",
">\n\nThis is a real republican...",
">\n\nIs he the Cousin of Ronnette Desantis from Florida???",
">\n\nThis guy is nuts. When I first saw stories of this dude I thought he looked off af. His look just didn’t fit. Like a skinwalker. And every story, including this one, has only affirmed those instincts more. Uncanny valley in the modern age.",
">\n\nHas Glenn Greenwald gotten on the case yet being an investigative journalist who lives in Brazil???",
">\n\nMan just wanted some free healthcare for life",
">\n\nEver read “Kiss of the Spider Woman?” A flamboyant gay drag queen in South America is joyfully apolitical even as the government is cracking down on people like him. This makes him an easy mark, and in return for little favors the fascists turn him into a double agent working for them instead.",
">\n\nIt’s easy to get elected if you just spew enough hate into the right people.",
">\n\nIt would be so easy to be a right wing grifter",
">\n\nHe probably got introduced to Putin by Glenn Greenwald.",
">\n\nIf this whole thing turns out to be some piece of performance art. I will admit it's impressive.",
">\n\nHe has to be friends with Glen Greenwald",
">\n\nCapitalism consumes those with a weak mind. Makes sense Santos betrayed the left and gave in to the vast wealth the conservative movement offered. Dude was an opportunist, and the GOP gullible rich assholes. Perfect marriage",
">\n\nThey love how the crazies distract the libs so much that they'll keep electing them until it's the GCP.",
">\n\nLauren Boebert was a sugar baby found through a casting website.\nThe whole plan is to make sure that tons of clown candidates break through.\nIt creates the narrative that all government is corrupt and we need a strong fascist to fix things. \"I mean, you don't see the Democrats doing anything to stop Santos or MTG or Boebert...\" they'll argue as they throw Santos out.",
">\n\n\"Crazy\" is more likely to be accepted by the Republican party, the Democrats would have turned him away.",
">\n\n\"this crazy thing\" being your standard political grifter?",
">\n\nThe Big Reveal: He is Andy Kaufman.",
">\n\nNo it's a republicans so desperate to win a seat in any district that even crazy are on the menu.",
">\n\nLike Trump and Musk, too. I guess it takes far less effort to gather and keep idiots as constituents",
">\n\nI feel at this point I need a docuseries about what the hell is going on with this guy.",
">\n\nDuh. He followed the money. So did Trump. And Candice Owens.",
">\n\nMoney is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nOut of the many characteristics he has, his most outstanding feature is his ability to lie. So he turned to the party of liars.",
">\n\nIt’s always the same shit. Some loser tried and failed to fit in with leftists because they had a shallow grasp on progressivism and were more interested with personal gain and were willing to abandon everything they claimed they stood for, all so that they can go grift and get money from conservatives making themselves out to be “one of the good ones”. Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, George santos, Jimmy dore, the list goes on.",
">\n\nWhen they can no longer defend him in the face of the mudslide of lies, they say he's a \"leftist\". Lol omg seriously? He never went anywhere as a Democrat. This idiot is a con artist pure and simple. He got elected Ted as a GOP Rep. Those are the facts.",
">\n\nJust like most of the other GOP they look at their job as entertainment and personal gain. It's all a game to them like going to Vegas.",
">\n\nWhat kind of art do they do?",
">\n\nThe American Dream.",
">\n\nTroll level: 1000",
">\n\nAnd this is the Republican Party in a nutshell. No background checks. Just wants a seat in congress!"
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I am all for Brazilian drag artists in general, even the mendacious kind, but it's rather shocking that one could become a MAGA congressman so easily. WTF, America.
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"He knew conservatives would be the easiest marks. He was right.",
">\n\nIf I pulled a grift on Republican voters, I'd immediately flip to Democrat after winning election.\nI am reasonably confident I could continue to manipulate them even as a Democrat lmao",
">\n\nAh, the Sinema strategy.",
">\n\nNot terribly smart. Sinema might want to make money as a lobbyist after she leaves politics but she has almost no good relations with either the Democrats or GOP. Her grifter tactics are going to backfire hard",
">\n\nWhen you make more money than you can spend in a lifetime, does it matter",
">\n\nGiven her whole \"prada-socialist\" gimmick from a few years ago, I'm going to bet she has a spending problem.",
">\n\nthat article was oddly enthralling thank you",
">\n\nHaha I thought the same thing. Glad you enjoyed it",
">\n\nThe best part of this is watching the lack of integrity of his fellow republicans get exposed as they jump through hoops to keep supporting him.",
">\n\nI had the thought of \"what if that's the point of the long con\" but immediately shot that down because consistency, integrity, and appearances don't matter. Them being caught in a double standard doesn't matter.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is what the GOP is now. It's entirely filled by grifters who find some way to tap into peoples' dissatisfaction with Democrats. It has nothing to do with ideas or ideology or charisma or even anger in some cases. Mtg got in with qanon. Matt gaetz got in by having a rich dad. George Santos got in because it was a good year for Republicans in new york. And trump got in because he ran against Hillary Clinton.\nNobody cares about the results. They probably don't even care about the current trans panic. They stopped caring about the election years ago. And now they don't even care about q. \nThis is the modern republican party. And by the looks of it they overdosed on nihilism",
">\n\nI'm so exhausted living in a world with adult babies.",
">\n\nMuch prefer the diaper lovers, at least they keep to themselves.",
">\n\nHe could smell the money. It's all about the grift. Tomorrow I could start being a right wing grifter and within a year be a millionaire....\nHey, wait a minute. Excuse me...",
">\n\nMan the amount of times I have thought \"ya know if it weren't for this pesky conscience, I could be rich right now, just gotta tell the sheep what they want to hear and they will throw their money at you.\"\nBut I would feel bad about fleecing people out of their money, so I don't. Morals always getting in the way of making money...",
">\n\nIt's a problem. I couldn't live with myself.",
">\n\nRight?\nIve been tempted to start a megachurch so many times, but I would feel so horrible lying to those people to extract their money from them.",
">\n\nMaybe starting a new religion isn’t a bad thing. All religions are more like clustered philosophies and sets of rules on how to live a good life; the mythology and associated deities are secondary to that purpose\nIt wouldn’t be hard to make a new religion more ethical than Mormonism at least",
">\n\nI've had that thought, call it the Church of Autotheism, and base it around the idea we are all our own gods, in that we are responsible for our own actions, and the consequences of those actions. We are gods because we change the world every time we interact it with, no matter how minor that interaction is or how subtle the change caused is.\nThe hope being that if you make people aware of their actions and the consequences that they would choose to be good. Which is probably wishful thinking at best.",
">\n\nIt would fail as a religion\n\n\nEvery religion advocates for consequentialism. Every single one.\n\n\nThe purpose of Gods whether they be Allah, Buddha, Vishnu, Ahura Mazda, The Jade Emperor, etc. is to remind people that human beings are not Gods; that human beings are ultimately falliable and that there is a reason mankind is in a fallen state, whether it be sin, haram, desire, karma, etc. Religion doesn’t work without a direct figure of worship for this reason",
">\n\nYea I know. It doesn't come with that fear of divine or cosmic retribution that hooks people.\nCan't scare people if you whole thing is \"everything is chaos, nothing means anything, so why not try being nice to each other to make things more pleasant?\" except dressed up in theological language.",
">\n\nIsnt he wanted for some crimes back in brazil?",
">\n\nBeing an extreme right wing operative is much more profitable.",
">\n\nEspecially if you're a minority. They'll build you the biggest, most expensive pedestal you've ever seen so they can show the world \"See? We can't possibly be oppressors! Here is someone we want to oppress that agrees with us!“\nAnd when you've finally helped them accomplish their goals, you'll have the honor of being second against the wall.\nAnyway, what this guy claimed years ago and what this guy claims today simply doesn't matter. His word is worthless and trying to sort the truth from the lies is a fools errand. \nHe may not even know the answer himself.",
">\n\nRemember that even in nazi germany there were Jews agreeing, supporting, and collaborating with Hitler. Only to end up in concentration camps in the end.",
">\n\nSame reason Trump switched.\nConservatives are ripe for the taking and have zero critical thinking skills.",
">\n\nSame reason for the difference in advertisements you see in conservative media. They will buy anything. All sorts of random pills, gold scams, objective trash as seen on TV stuff, scam finance stuff, etc, etc. All of this on prime time cable. You don't see them on regular media because market research is telling advertisers that conservatives are the stupidest demographic.",
">\n\nPart of me just wants to create a non profit and milk these idiots dry and then just keep 95% of the donations for running the non profit…\nEasy money.",
">\n\n\"Ted Nugent's Fund For Repossessing Mexicans' food? Sign me the fuck up\"\nActually it's me and my bros using their money to buy all the tacos we can eat...",
">\n\nI'm so ready for this idiot to be out of the news. Can he just resign in disgrace already?",
">\n\nLol it's cute if you think politicians still resign in this day",
">\n\nDemocrats resign in disgrace. \nRepublicans just keep on doubling down to the cheers of their voters.",
">\n\nDemocrats resign over fucking nothing. \nFucking nothing makes a Republican resign.",
">\n\nI'm honestly worried Biden might resign over these documents found in his residence...",
">\n\nNot worried. The presidents daily schedule is top secret. But eventually outdated and useless info. He probably kept the schedules with his notes and didn’t think it was really an issue to people with common sense. Time will tell. Except for on Fox News.",
">\n\nSeems like he had the same \"I can make so much money grifting the idiots on the right\" idea that I've had many times.\nOnly difference is that he's actually twisted enough to go out and do it. I say I'll do it quite often, but I'm not shitty enough to go through with it.",
">\n\nI have had this thought so many times as a bilingual x missionary kid. If we ran together we could make a killing! :P",
">\n\nI was a Bible Thumper, went to Christian school.. Oh man I could tute the tune on the horn they play. Like a fucking fiddle it would be so easy.",
">\n\nChristian college here bud, join the ticket.",
">\n\nChristian high school, christian college, white with blond hair and parents are rich, and born and raised in the south. It would be sooo easy.",
">\n\nYou are invited too bud, we need a vet and we're fuckin set.",
">\n\nHell ya! Let’s put this religious trauma to use",
">\n\nI'm an old ass left coast librul and I welcome this chaos magic.",
">\n\nFantastic work, did you train a model with every George Santos picture you could find?",
">\n\nTrained w about 30 pics.",
">\n\nI'm impressed",
">\n\nCriminals recognize criminals. I’m convinced any person running with an R next to their name at this point is strictly an opportunistic grifter with zero interest in governing",
">\n\nWas this comment written in the late 1980's. Ronald Reagan...",
">\n\nThe precise moment productivity and wages set off on their separate journeys and never spoke again.",
">\n\nAww come on that money gonna trickle down any year now...",
">\n\nProof that anyone that can lie can be an elected republican",
">\n\nDude, it’s getting sad at this point.\nIt’s blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention, and I hate to say it because again it makes me sad, but conservatives are rubes. These people have progressively seen how gullible they are and now there’s a feeding frenzy. \nThey smelled blood in the water when they saw Trump’s popularity rose prior to the 2016 election and they haven’t stopped since.",
">\n\n\"If that idiot can grift so can I\"",
">\n\nImagine if we took money out of politics and politicians were only working for the betterment of the people. We wouldn't have nearly as many of these stories where a conservative person is looking down on or doing something they say they're against.\nShit, if our politicians weren't suckling the teat of the rich we would likely have healthcare, people would be fed, and this manufactured inflation that's making us all poorer would have been nipped I'm the bud back when they first thought they could pull one over on the working class. \nInstead, we just get the stick.",
">\n\nTake the excess campaign dollars out of it. Don’t allow ANY money to be donated. Let every candidate start with the same dollar amount, maybe 5-10 million raised from donations and use it for expenses as they tour across the country, meeting the voters. Once the campaign money is gone, it’s gone. A bipartisan site online could accept the donations for any candidate and keep a running total of money received. Have TV debates, with the understanding that anyone breaking the rules will be immediately muted, and asked to leave. Have town hall meetings. Get politics back to the PEOPLE, to grassroots campaigns that don’t spend $100 million on one candidate. It levels the playing field for anyone to run that can raise $10 million through grassroots efforts. No politician should be beholden to huge campaign contributors. Do away with lobbying! Our country can be run better by a humanitarian,and a great administration of extremely qualified individuals. Military, Finance, Social issues, Education, Intelligence, Veterans issues, etc. we have to change the way the US is run, including elections. The richest people in the country are BUYING politicians…something the majority of the country can’t compete in, and don’t want to compete in. It would be wonderful to start voting in people based on their intelligence, their character, and their history and background. People who were overachievers in high school, college, and work. Vetting for every candidate, and any negative findings that are related to morals is disqualifying. Whoever is running this country need to be above reproach. Maybe Hakeem Jeffries, who has a great track record and is younger and more enthusiastic that anyone in the Republican Party He’s done so much for his constituents, that it’s obvious he’s a good man , and very intelligent",
">\n\nI agree with everything you said except the Hakeem Jeffries part. He takes tons of campaign bribes from multiple industries. There are democrats in the house of representatives with much cleaner records than him.",
">\n\nSantos is whoever he needs to be to pull a scam.",
">\n\nHe didn't didn't run on a whim. Someone \"encouraged\" him. Trace the origin of his money.",
">\n\nTrump has been a registered Democrat, Reformer & Republican.\nGrifters go where the money is at.",
">\n\nbeing a republican politician is basically an extremely immoral form of drag when you think about it.",
">\n\nI am now convinced that he got all of his money from the Republican party. I'm convinced that they knew he was lying all along, and they did whatever they could to get him elected. Why? Because he provides a really good distraction. While we're all watching the George Santos show, the Republicans are quietly destroying democracy.",
">\n\nHe knew it would be easy to fool a bunch of conservatives, and unfortunately he was right. Bunch of easy marks.",
">\n\nWhenever I run across a gay Republican (and they are definitely out there) I immediately assume they’re a sociopath.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian, who's perpetually befuddled by American politics, I'm amazed that someone with that gay of a face is flashing white power symbols.",
">\n\nIs George even Tony’s real name?",
">\n\nHe didn't just pop up out of nowhere and win a race all on his own. Someone chose him to be the front-man, organized, and paid for his campaign. Be interesting to find out who that was.",
">\n\nThis dude is a distraction. I’m not super into politics but I have a feeling that someone is doing some really shady shit and it being overlooked for this low hanging piece of shit.",
">\n\nIs it just me or are right wingers their own unique brand of especially gullible marks? I mean, scams don't have a political leaning but there's a lot of ways to make money selling explicitly right wing nonsense.",
">\n\nSo basically, New York elected Borat to Congress.",
">\n\nRepublicans elected him to congress",
">\n\nNo not at all, he won the Long Island district that almost always votes democrat. But it’s got a large Jewish population so he lied about being Jewish.",
">\n\nLong Islanders continue to be the stupidest fucking people",
">\n\nI'm still grappling with the fact that people care more about when he dressed up in costume as a different gender, rather than the extensive lies about his credentials.",
">\n\nI don't think \"they\" do. I.e. I think most normal people realize all that other shit is waaay worse. But everyone is wondering what the deal-breaker will be for the GOP, and you'd think that'd be proof he was a drag queen, hence the attention that's getting.\nIOW it's just evidence of how low our expectations are of the Republicans.",
">\n\nIf only I was shameless and doesn't care how much people will hate me, I definitely would run for a republican office.",
">\n\nIf you’re a conman trying to get money from political campaigns conservatives are an easy mark.",
">\n\nThere's a reason people right-wing grift. Easy money. It's also why the left-wing grift isn't a thing.",
">\n\nI’m noticing a trend with all these right wing psychos, there’s a whole lot of South Americans and Cubans in their ranks.",
">\n\nI knew the water circled the drain differently when crossing the equator, but this is ridiculous.",
">\n\nThis thread doesn't deserve your comment.",
">\n\nHe saw how gullible the Right is and how to exploit them for $",
">\n\nHe's not right or left. He's a con man. And the smart voters in NY actually voted him into office. Maybe do some research before you vote and don't vote along party lines.",
">\n\nIt’s just the last part, and they won’t.",
">\n\nMaybe he is a Trojan horse",
">\n\nOr a Trojan rep",
">\n\nHe did what Trump did, realized who the stupid people were and joined their side.",
">\n\nIs this dude getting cawthorned? Do Republicans make them go and commit kompromat before they support them?",
">\n\nThis will be the thing that really angers the Right....",
">\n\nGeorge Santo is a Lizard Person e.g. a Chameleon changing to his current environment in order to survive and prosper.",
">\n\nSome people flip flop between political extremes. On a rare occation it means they have an open mind. More often than not, they are just fools, though.",
">\n\nIt is so tragic that his family was in the holocaust and his mother died at the towers on 911",
">\n\nPure sociopath wil say anything to anyone",
">\n\nYou mean turn into a Russian agent for money and power beyond his imagination to hurt a country he didn't give a flying rat's ass about? He's not even a traitor - he's just working for Papa Putin to fuck the Americans.",
">\n\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent",
">\n\nOpportunistic Brazilian ConArtist",
">\n\nThis just goes to show why vetting processes need to happen before someone is elected",
">\n\nHe's one of those, like Trump, that is whatever is most convenient at that moment. Not really anything at all when you cut down to the deepest layer. \nTrump and Hillary were such friends that he invited her to his wedding. Years later, he's this alt-right champion. It's ridiculous and barely covers the fact that he will play any side that benefits him. Just like this boy Santos. Both sociopathic liars with fragile egos and shaky claims to any thing remotely verifiable as truth.",
">\n\nUndiagnosed personality disorders are all around us.",
">\n\nSays a lot about George Santos that I believe a random Drag Artist in Brazil over the elected politician George Santos \nCaveat, Not that I wouldnt believe something a person says (drag artist or not), but if random people came out on the internet and said, “Trump randomly said to me one time he loves Democrat policies and was a huge Obama fan” I’d be like, “Okay, random person, Trumps a shitty person but I doubt that.” George Santos is such a fucking liar I’m like, “She probably telling the truth”",
">\n\nEvery day this looks more like a borat movie in real life.",
">\n\nIF America had rejected tRump, this pathological liar, wouldn't be here now.",
">\n\nI don't know about everyone else but I'm starting to think that this guy might not be the most trustworthy",
">\n\nWho is this person? He fooled so many.",
">\n\nHe saw a reality tv star play a role upon a mountain of lies and now he thinks he can too.",
">\n\nMaybe the left is missing the message here. Run as republican, be outraged by all the silly shit that Ra yell at, but then vote leftwing.\nPretend to be a right-wing nut job, but vote left",
">\n\nBecause this is how you get elected and get a fuckton of money, obviously. It's easy to do. Look at Musk and Trump - also previously non-nationalists (but always grifters) capitalizing on the rightzis' lunacy and hysteria. 'Pay me if you want to survive the assault on white identity and religion' is a ~~powerful~~ profitable message.",
">\n\nR/conservative",
">\n\nCon-men have no political philosophies, just scams.",
">\n\nThese fucks just want fame. They don’t care which side they’re on, just as long as they see themselves in the paper, on the news and internet. Narcissists.",
">\n\nHe wasn’t a “Leftist” but he certainly has all the familiar traits of a sociopathic Conservative. Georgieboi will say and do anything to get what he wants. It is your stereotypical malignant Narcissist.",
">\n\nSleeper agent?",
">\n\nThe reason for “this crazy thing” is called money. He was obviously bought by some group to run as a gay republican to get votes in a contested district, and it worked. All efforts should be put in it tracking down who paid him to do this and creating strong ethical standards for elected officials",
">\n\nI can guarantee you he didn't just recently turn crazy",
">\n\nIf the song was about Santos, it basically would have been I met a drag queen, she was horrible, I went somewhere else.",
">\n\nI'm gonna channel my inner Obi Wan and ask who's more foolish, the fool, or the fool who votes for him?",
">\n\nThis is how politics works in the US. Hasan and his uncle Cenk talk about this all the time. Going the right wing route is a way more profitable route. For a lot of them its just a grift. The marks/voters are an extremely manipulable bunch, and the funders (billionaires/corporations) have big pockets",
">\n\nHonestly, I think this guy is awesome. Taking the republican clown archetype to the absolute extreme and exposing just how corrupt and ridiculous they are as they fumble to continue supporting him.",
">\n\nDiamond and Silk were rabid left wingers until they realized the grift opportunities were much better on the other side.",
">\n\n🎶🎶 Money money money, must be funny, in a rich man's world. 🎶🎶🎶🎶",
">\n\nThe USA- where literally anyone can come and become a right wing biggot.",
">\n\nStick that man's brain in a pigeon and it will fly backwards...",
">\n\nHe is nothing but an opportunist.",
">\n\nWe really need to see this guy’s birth certificate.",
">\n\nThe oppo researchers in the NY Democratic Party should be sacked. Honestly. How the hell did this guy get through a whole campaign without this coming out?",
">\n\nIt did come out. And local press covered it. It’s just that nobody gave a shit…",
">\n\nCrazy thing = scam artist and probable Russian plant",
">\n\nMy guess is he’s always been a pathological liar and doesn’t have any convictions or principles",
">\n\nHe never supported anything except his own enrichment. The guy is a psycho and always has been.",
">\n\nIs it that odd? I do believe a number of current conservatives both in the media and in politics were at one point pretty liberal, but when they found out they couldn't make money off it, they went to the right.",
">\n\nGrift is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nI don't think he actually believes his own shit, but I do wonder if he is being paid off by a foreign power to help destabilize the US",
">\n\nBasically one-upping Kyrsten Sinema",
">\n\nWhy is he not being recalled by his district ?",
">\n\nWhose payroll is he on?",
">\n\nI just wish this article was about Matt Gaetz",
">\n\nSimilar to people like Trump or Candice Owens. These people have no ideology just the grift path of least resistance.",
">\n\nAll these formerly hidden fun facts about ol' George here are sooo interesting. He's just a never-ending fount of delightful surprises!\nP.S. Did you know that George Santos lassos rampaging bulls with his penis?",
">\n\nYeah, he probably lied about all that too",
">\n\nDamn, I never thought anyone on the republican team could do their makeup better than Trump, but I was wrong!",
">\n\nSir Lies a lot",
">\n\nHe didn’t change. He was always a liar. I wouldn’t be shocked if he was a straight up\nPsychopath.",
">\n\nPrevious Jobs Drag Artist…\nRepublicans: i think we can be a good match and we have a job offer for you.",
">\n\nPlease can someone make a visual timeline of this man’s life and lies? It’s so complicated that I can’t understand the full history of when he showed up in politics and the claims he’s made. It’s too convoluted to comprehend. I need bullet points. Or drawrings.",
">\n\nWho is this guy? Like he could be some sleeper agent",
">\n\nso he's clearly either an opportunist, or a legit crazy person... or both",
">\n\nThis story doesn’t even seem real.",
">\n\n“Article I, Section 2, Clause 2: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.”\nHow did he get into congress if you need to be a U.S. citizen for at least 7 years?",
">\n\nHe wanted progressive policies for his own country. He's happy to profit from destroying this one.",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is Glenn Greenwald?",
">\n\nI've never seen him and Kyrsten Sinema in the same room together.\nI'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'",
">\n\nWhich sounds more realistic?\n1) hundreds and hundreds of people are all lying about one person, across continents\n2) one person is lying A BUNCH.",
">\n\nI want to know if he's actually a US citizen, or if just lied about that like everything else.",
">\n\nAre we sure that \"George Santos\" is not just a Sacha Baron Cohen project at this point?",
">\n\nThis is literally full grift mode mask off. There isn't any hard evidence a guy like Dave Rubin switches to the right for money, but we all know it's true.\nThis grift has receipts.",
">\n\nHe goes where the grift is. Right now the maga crowd is so reactionary and blinded by the identity politics of the right that they don't notice their pockets being picked",
">\n\nThe crazy theory of him being actually an actor working for Sasha Baron Cohen sounds less and less crazy every day.",
">\n\nProbably just a grifter who saw where the suckers were at. People like him don't have any real political beliefs.",
">\n\nThe quote that stood out to me is “he wanted to be famous, no matter what.” He got his wish.",
">\n\nSo he’s drag Trump?",
">\n\nMany people are actually left leaning and for policies that benefit many people, all people. Until they move to the US, and are fed “patriotic” adjectives by the GOP. \nI.e. my in laws.",
">\n\nOr he just knew which party would be more receptive to grift",
">\n\nIt’s so nice to see the GOP, the party of \"facts and logic,” standing by a party member known to be so honest and truthful...",
">\n\nRepublicans need to stop endorsing con-men and Yahoos. The Republican Party is looking like some kind of Clown Party.",
">\n\nIt’s like bizarro Kyrsten Sinema… is he a democrat plant for revenge purposes? /s?",
">\n\nWhat if he's trying to infiltrate the enemy and do a double-cross and we all blew his cover?",
">\n\nAll the crazy that Russian money could buy.",
">\n\nYeah, these types of people stand for nothing.\nThey just shift into whatever the environment calls for.",
">\n\nMakes u really wonder what plans he has for any confidential information he may be privy to during his term.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to me how this happens. Like there was no real Republican that was interested in the office so they just went with this guy? Like how does it happen.",
">\n\nThis is a real republican...",
">\n\nIs he the Cousin of Ronnette Desantis from Florida???",
">\n\nThis guy is nuts. When I first saw stories of this dude I thought he looked off af. His look just didn’t fit. Like a skinwalker. And every story, including this one, has only affirmed those instincts more. Uncanny valley in the modern age.",
">\n\nHas Glenn Greenwald gotten on the case yet being an investigative journalist who lives in Brazil???",
">\n\nMan just wanted some free healthcare for life",
">\n\nEver read “Kiss of the Spider Woman?” A flamboyant gay drag queen in South America is joyfully apolitical even as the government is cracking down on people like him. This makes him an easy mark, and in return for little favors the fascists turn him into a double agent working for them instead.",
">\n\nIt’s easy to get elected if you just spew enough hate into the right people.",
">\n\nIt would be so easy to be a right wing grifter",
">\n\nHe probably got introduced to Putin by Glenn Greenwald.",
">\n\nIf this whole thing turns out to be some piece of performance art. I will admit it's impressive.",
">\n\nHe has to be friends with Glen Greenwald",
">\n\nCapitalism consumes those with a weak mind. Makes sense Santos betrayed the left and gave in to the vast wealth the conservative movement offered. Dude was an opportunist, and the GOP gullible rich assholes. Perfect marriage",
">\n\nThey love how the crazies distract the libs so much that they'll keep electing them until it's the GCP.",
">\n\nLauren Boebert was a sugar baby found through a casting website.\nThe whole plan is to make sure that tons of clown candidates break through.\nIt creates the narrative that all government is corrupt and we need a strong fascist to fix things. \"I mean, you don't see the Democrats doing anything to stop Santos or MTG or Boebert...\" they'll argue as they throw Santos out.",
">\n\n\"Crazy\" is more likely to be accepted by the Republican party, the Democrats would have turned him away.",
">\n\n\"this crazy thing\" being your standard political grifter?",
">\n\nThe Big Reveal: He is Andy Kaufman.",
">\n\nNo it's a republicans so desperate to win a seat in any district that even crazy are on the menu.",
">\n\nLike Trump and Musk, too. I guess it takes far less effort to gather and keep idiots as constituents",
">\n\nI feel at this point I need a docuseries about what the hell is going on with this guy.",
">\n\nDuh. He followed the money. So did Trump. And Candice Owens.",
">\n\nMoney is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nOut of the many characteristics he has, his most outstanding feature is his ability to lie. So he turned to the party of liars.",
">\n\nIt’s always the same shit. Some loser tried and failed to fit in with leftists because they had a shallow grasp on progressivism and were more interested with personal gain and were willing to abandon everything they claimed they stood for, all so that they can go grift and get money from conservatives making themselves out to be “one of the good ones”. Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, George santos, Jimmy dore, the list goes on.",
">\n\nWhen they can no longer defend him in the face of the mudslide of lies, they say he's a \"leftist\". Lol omg seriously? He never went anywhere as a Democrat. This idiot is a con artist pure and simple. He got elected Ted as a GOP Rep. Those are the facts.",
">\n\nJust like most of the other GOP they look at their job as entertainment and personal gain. It's all a game to them like going to Vegas.",
">\n\nWhat kind of art do they do?",
">\n\nThe American Dream.",
">\n\nTroll level: 1000",
">\n\nAnd this is the Republican Party in a nutshell. No background checks. Just wants a seat in congress!",
">\n\nThis is just like new Mexican immigrants like Paola Ramos who was right-wing in Mexico yet when they come to the U.S. they are left wing."
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"He knew conservatives would be the easiest marks. He was right.",
">\n\nIf I pulled a grift on Republican voters, I'd immediately flip to Democrat after winning election.\nI am reasonably confident I could continue to manipulate them even as a Democrat lmao",
">\n\nAh, the Sinema strategy.",
">\n\nNot terribly smart. Sinema might want to make money as a lobbyist after she leaves politics but she has almost no good relations with either the Democrats or GOP. Her grifter tactics are going to backfire hard",
">\n\nWhen you make more money than you can spend in a lifetime, does it matter",
">\n\nGiven her whole \"prada-socialist\" gimmick from a few years ago, I'm going to bet she has a spending problem.",
">\n\nthat article was oddly enthralling thank you",
">\n\nHaha I thought the same thing. Glad you enjoyed it",
">\n\nThe best part of this is watching the lack of integrity of his fellow republicans get exposed as they jump through hoops to keep supporting him.",
">\n\nI had the thought of \"what if that's the point of the long con\" but immediately shot that down because consistency, integrity, and appearances don't matter. Them being caught in a double standard doesn't matter.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is what the GOP is now. It's entirely filled by grifters who find some way to tap into peoples' dissatisfaction with Democrats. It has nothing to do with ideas or ideology or charisma or even anger in some cases. Mtg got in with qanon. Matt gaetz got in by having a rich dad. George Santos got in because it was a good year for Republicans in new york. And trump got in because he ran against Hillary Clinton.\nNobody cares about the results. They probably don't even care about the current trans panic. They stopped caring about the election years ago. And now they don't even care about q. \nThis is the modern republican party. And by the looks of it they overdosed on nihilism",
">\n\nI'm so exhausted living in a world with adult babies.",
">\n\nMuch prefer the diaper lovers, at least they keep to themselves.",
">\n\nHe could smell the money. It's all about the grift. Tomorrow I could start being a right wing grifter and within a year be a millionaire....\nHey, wait a minute. Excuse me...",
">\n\nMan the amount of times I have thought \"ya know if it weren't for this pesky conscience, I could be rich right now, just gotta tell the sheep what they want to hear and they will throw their money at you.\"\nBut I would feel bad about fleecing people out of their money, so I don't. Morals always getting in the way of making money...",
">\n\nIt's a problem. I couldn't live with myself.",
">\n\nRight?\nIve been tempted to start a megachurch so many times, but I would feel so horrible lying to those people to extract their money from them.",
">\n\nMaybe starting a new religion isn’t a bad thing. All religions are more like clustered philosophies and sets of rules on how to live a good life; the mythology and associated deities are secondary to that purpose\nIt wouldn’t be hard to make a new religion more ethical than Mormonism at least",
">\n\nI've had that thought, call it the Church of Autotheism, and base it around the idea we are all our own gods, in that we are responsible for our own actions, and the consequences of those actions. We are gods because we change the world every time we interact it with, no matter how minor that interaction is or how subtle the change caused is.\nThe hope being that if you make people aware of their actions and the consequences that they would choose to be good. Which is probably wishful thinking at best.",
">\n\nIt would fail as a religion\n\n\nEvery religion advocates for consequentialism. Every single one.\n\n\nThe purpose of Gods whether they be Allah, Buddha, Vishnu, Ahura Mazda, The Jade Emperor, etc. is to remind people that human beings are not Gods; that human beings are ultimately falliable and that there is a reason mankind is in a fallen state, whether it be sin, haram, desire, karma, etc. Religion doesn’t work without a direct figure of worship for this reason",
">\n\nYea I know. It doesn't come with that fear of divine or cosmic retribution that hooks people.\nCan't scare people if you whole thing is \"everything is chaos, nothing means anything, so why not try being nice to each other to make things more pleasant?\" except dressed up in theological language.",
">\n\nIsnt he wanted for some crimes back in brazil?",
">\n\nBeing an extreme right wing operative is much more profitable.",
">\n\nEspecially if you're a minority. They'll build you the biggest, most expensive pedestal you've ever seen so they can show the world \"See? We can't possibly be oppressors! Here is someone we want to oppress that agrees with us!“\nAnd when you've finally helped them accomplish their goals, you'll have the honor of being second against the wall.\nAnyway, what this guy claimed years ago and what this guy claims today simply doesn't matter. His word is worthless and trying to sort the truth from the lies is a fools errand. \nHe may not even know the answer himself.",
">\n\nRemember that even in nazi germany there were Jews agreeing, supporting, and collaborating with Hitler. Only to end up in concentration camps in the end.",
">\n\nSame reason Trump switched.\nConservatives are ripe for the taking and have zero critical thinking skills.",
">\n\nSame reason for the difference in advertisements you see in conservative media. They will buy anything. All sorts of random pills, gold scams, objective trash as seen on TV stuff, scam finance stuff, etc, etc. All of this on prime time cable. You don't see them on regular media because market research is telling advertisers that conservatives are the stupidest demographic.",
">\n\nPart of me just wants to create a non profit and milk these idiots dry and then just keep 95% of the donations for running the non profit…\nEasy money.",
">\n\n\"Ted Nugent's Fund For Repossessing Mexicans' food? Sign me the fuck up\"\nActually it's me and my bros using their money to buy all the tacos we can eat...",
">\n\nI'm so ready for this idiot to be out of the news. Can he just resign in disgrace already?",
">\n\nLol it's cute if you think politicians still resign in this day",
">\n\nDemocrats resign in disgrace. \nRepublicans just keep on doubling down to the cheers of their voters.",
">\n\nDemocrats resign over fucking nothing. \nFucking nothing makes a Republican resign.",
">\n\nI'm honestly worried Biden might resign over these documents found in his residence...",
">\n\nNot worried. The presidents daily schedule is top secret. But eventually outdated and useless info. He probably kept the schedules with his notes and didn’t think it was really an issue to people with common sense. Time will tell. Except for on Fox News.",
">\n\nSeems like he had the same \"I can make so much money grifting the idiots on the right\" idea that I've had many times.\nOnly difference is that he's actually twisted enough to go out and do it. I say I'll do it quite often, but I'm not shitty enough to go through with it.",
">\n\nI have had this thought so many times as a bilingual x missionary kid. If we ran together we could make a killing! :P",
">\n\nI was a Bible Thumper, went to Christian school.. Oh man I could tute the tune on the horn they play. Like a fucking fiddle it would be so easy.",
">\n\nChristian college here bud, join the ticket.",
">\n\nChristian high school, christian college, white with blond hair and parents are rich, and born and raised in the south. It would be sooo easy.",
">\n\nYou are invited too bud, we need a vet and we're fuckin set.",
">\n\nHell ya! Let’s put this religious trauma to use",
">\n\nI'm an old ass left coast librul and I welcome this chaos magic.",
">\n\nFantastic work, did you train a model with every George Santos picture you could find?",
">\n\nTrained w about 30 pics.",
">\n\nI'm impressed",
">\n\nCriminals recognize criminals. I’m convinced any person running with an R next to their name at this point is strictly an opportunistic grifter with zero interest in governing",
">\n\nWas this comment written in the late 1980's. Ronald Reagan...",
">\n\nThe precise moment productivity and wages set off on their separate journeys and never spoke again.",
">\n\nAww come on that money gonna trickle down any year now...",
">\n\nProof that anyone that can lie can be an elected republican",
">\n\nDude, it’s getting sad at this point.\nIt’s blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention, and I hate to say it because again it makes me sad, but conservatives are rubes. These people have progressively seen how gullible they are and now there’s a feeding frenzy. \nThey smelled blood in the water when they saw Trump’s popularity rose prior to the 2016 election and they haven’t stopped since.",
">\n\n\"If that idiot can grift so can I\"",
">\n\nImagine if we took money out of politics and politicians were only working for the betterment of the people. We wouldn't have nearly as many of these stories where a conservative person is looking down on or doing something they say they're against.\nShit, if our politicians weren't suckling the teat of the rich we would likely have healthcare, people would be fed, and this manufactured inflation that's making us all poorer would have been nipped I'm the bud back when they first thought they could pull one over on the working class. \nInstead, we just get the stick.",
">\n\nTake the excess campaign dollars out of it. Don’t allow ANY money to be donated. Let every candidate start with the same dollar amount, maybe 5-10 million raised from donations and use it for expenses as they tour across the country, meeting the voters. Once the campaign money is gone, it’s gone. A bipartisan site online could accept the donations for any candidate and keep a running total of money received. Have TV debates, with the understanding that anyone breaking the rules will be immediately muted, and asked to leave. Have town hall meetings. Get politics back to the PEOPLE, to grassroots campaigns that don’t spend $100 million on one candidate. It levels the playing field for anyone to run that can raise $10 million through grassroots efforts. No politician should be beholden to huge campaign contributors. Do away with lobbying! Our country can be run better by a humanitarian,and a great administration of extremely qualified individuals. Military, Finance, Social issues, Education, Intelligence, Veterans issues, etc. we have to change the way the US is run, including elections. The richest people in the country are BUYING politicians…something the majority of the country can’t compete in, and don’t want to compete in. It would be wonderful to start voting in people based on their intelligence, their character, and their history and background. People who were overachievers in high school, college, and work. Vetting for every candidate, and any negative findings that are related to morals is disqualifying. Whoever is running this country need to be above reproach. Maybe Hakeem Jeffries, who has a great track record and is younger and more enthusiastic that anyone in the Republican Party He’s done so much for his constituents, that it’s obvious he’s a good man , and very intelligent",
">\n\nI agree with everything you said except the Hakeem Jeffries part. He takes tons of campaign bribes from multiple industries. There are democrats in the house of representatives with much cleaner records than him.",
">\n\nSantos is whoever he needs to be to pull a scam.",
">\n\nHe didn't didn't run on a whim. Someone \"encouraged\" him. Trace the origin of his money.",
">\n\nTrump has been a registered Democrat, Reformer & Republican.\nGrifters go where the money is at.",
">\n\nbeing a republican politician is basically an extremely immoral form of drag when you think about it.",
">\n\nI am now convinced that he got all of his money from the Republican party. I'm convinced that they knew he was lying all along, and they did whatever they could to get him elected. Why? Because he provides a really good distraction. While we're all watching the George Santos show, the Republicans are quietly destroying democracy.",
">\n\nHe knew it would be easy to fool a bunch of conservatives, and unfortunately he was right. Bunch of easy marks.",
">\n\nWhenever I run across a gay Republican (and they are definitely out there) I immediately assume they’re a sociopath.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian, who's perpetually befuddled by American politics, I'm amazed that someone with that gay of a face is flashing white power symbols.",
">\n\nIs George even Tony’s real name?",
">\n\nHe didn't just pop up out of nowhere and win a race all on his own. Someone chose him to be the front-man, organized, and paid for his campaign. Be interesting to find out who that was.",
">\n\nThis dude is a distraction. I’m not super into politics but I have a feeling that someone is doing some really shady shit and it being overlooked for this low hanging piece of shit.",
">\n\nIs it just me or are right wingers their own unique brand of especially gullible marks? I mean, scams don't have a political leaning but there's a lot of ways to make money selling explicitly right wing nonsense.",
">\n\nSo basically, New York elected Borat to Congress.",
">\n\nRepublicans elected him to congress",
">\n\nNo not at all, he won the Long Island district that almost always votes democrat. But it’s got a large Jewish population so he lied about being Jewish.",
">\n\nLong Islanders continue to be the stupidest fucking people",
">\n\nI'm still grappling with the fact that people care more about when he dressed up in costume as a different gender, rather than the extensive lies about his credentials.",
">\n\nI don't think \"they\" do. I.e. I think most normal people realize all that other shit is waaay worse. But everyone is wondering what the deal-breaker will be for the GOP, and you'd think that'd be proof he was a drag queen, hence the attention that's getting.\nIOW it's just evidence of how low our expectations are of the Republicans.",
">\n\nIf only I was shameless and doesn't care how much people will hate me, I definitely would run for a republican office.",
">\n\nIf you’re a conman trying to get money from political campaigns conservatives are an easy mark.",
">\n\nThere's a reason people right-wing grift. Easy money. It's also why the left-wing grift isn't a thing.",
">\n\nI’m noticing a trend with all these right wing psychos, there’s a whole lot of South Americans and Cubans in their ranks.",
">\n\nI knew the water circled the drain differently when crossing the equator, but this is ridiculous.",
">\n\nThis thread doesn't deserve your comment.",
">\n\nHe saw how gullible the Right is and how to exploit them for $",
">\n\nHe's not right or left. He's a con man. And the smart voters in NY actually voted him into office. Maybe do some research before you vote and don't vote along party lines.",
">\n\nIt’s just the last part, and they won’t.",
">\n\nMaybe he is a Trojan horse",
">\n\nOr a Trojan rep",
">\n\nHe did what Trump did, realized who the stupid people were and joined their side.",
">\n\nIs this dude getting cawthorned? Do Republicans make them go and commit kompromat before they support them?",
">\n\nThis will be the thing that really angers the Right....",
">\n\nGeorge Santo is a Lizard Person e.g. a Chameleon changing to his current environment in order to survive and prosper.",
">\n\nSome people flip flop between political extremes. On a rare occation it means they have an open mind. More often than not, they are just fools, though.",
">\n\nIt is so tragic that his family was in the holocaust and his mother died at the towers on 911",
">\n\nPure sociopath wil say anything to anyone",
">\n\nYou mean turn into a Russian agent for money and power beyond his imagination to hurt a country he didn't give a flying rat's ass about? He's not even a traitor - he's just working for Papa Putin to fuck the Americans.",
">\n\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent",
">\n\nOpportunistic Brazilian ConArtist",
">\n\nThis just goes to show why vetting processes need to happen before someone is elected",
">\n\nHe's one of those, like Trump, that is whatever is most convenient at that moment. Not really anything at all when you cut down to the deepest layer. \nTrump and Hillary were such friends that he invited her to his wedding. Years later, he's this alt-right champion. It's ridiculous and barely covers the fact that he will play any side that benefits him. Just like this boy Santos. Both sociopathic liars with fragile egos and shaky claims to any thing remotely verifiable as truth.",
">\n\nUndiagnosed personality disorders are all around us.",
">\n\nSays a lot about George Santos that I believe a random Drag Artist in Brazil over the elected politician George Santos \nCaveat, Not that I wouldnt believe something a person says (drag artist or not), but if random people came out on the internet and said, “Trump randomly said to me one time he loves Democrat policies and was a huge Obama fan” I’d be like, “Okay, random person, Trumps a shitty person but I doubt that.” George Santos is such a fucking liar I’m like, “She probably telling the truth”",
">\n\nEvery day this looks more like a borat movie in real life.",
">\n\nIF America had rejected tRump, this pathological liar, wouldn't be here now.",
">\n\nI don't know about everyone else but I'm starting to think that this guy might not be the most trustworthy",
">\n\nWho is this person? He fooled so many.",
">\n\nHe saw a reality tv star play a role upon a mountain of lies and now he thinks he can too.",
">\n\nMaybe the left is missing the message here. Run as republican, be outraged by all the silly shit that Ra yell at, but then vote leftwing.\nPretend to be a right-wing nut job, but vote left",
">\n\nBecause this is how you get elected and get a fuckton of money, obviously. It's easy to do. Look at Musk and Trump - also previously non-nationalists (but always grifters) capitalizing on the rightzis' lunacy and hysteria. 'Pay me if you want to survive the assault on white identity and religion' is a ~~powerful~~ profitable message.",
">\n\nR/conservative",
">\n\nCon-men have no political philosophies, just scams.",
">\n\nThese fucks just want fame. They don’t care which side they’re on, just as long as they see themselves in the paper, on the news and internet. Narcissists.",
">\n\nHe wasn’t a “Leftist” but he certainly has all the familiar traits of a sociopathic Conservative. Georgieboi will say and do anything to get what he wants. It is your stereotypical malignant Narcissist.",
">\n\nSleeper agent?",
">\n\nThe reason for “this crazy thing” is called money. He was obviously bought by some group to run as a gay republican to get votes in a contested district, and it worked. All efforts should be put in it tracking down who paid him to do this and creating strong ethical standards for elected officials",
">\n\nI can guarantee you he didn't just recently turn crazy",
">\n\nIf the song was about Santos, it basically would have been I met a drag queen, she was horrible, I went somewhere else.",
">\n\nI'm gonna channel my inner Obi Wan and ask who's more foolish, the fool, or the fool who votes for him?",
">\n\nThis is how politics works in the US. Hasan and his uncle Cenk talk about this all the time. Going the right wing route is a way more profitable route. For a lot of them its just a grift. The marks/voters are an extremely manipulable bunch, and the funders (billionaires/corporations) have big pockets",
">\n\nHonestly, I think this guy is awesome. Taking the republican clown archetype to the absolute extreme and exposing just how corrupt and ridiculous they are as they fumble to continue supporting him.",
">\n\nDiamond and Silk were rabid left wingers until they realized the grift opportunities were much better on the other side.",
">\n\n🎶🎶 Money money money, must be funny, in a rich man's world. 🎶🎶🎶🎶",
">\n\nThe USA- where literally anyone can come and become a right wing biggot.",
">\n\nStick that man's brain in a pigeon and it will fly backwards...",
">\n\nHe is nothing but an opportunist.",
">\n\nWe really need to see this guy’s birth certificate.",
">\n\nThe oppo researchers in the NY Democratic Party should be sacked. Honestly. How the hell did this guy get through a whole campaign without this coming out?",
">\n\nIt did come out. And local press covered it. It’s just that nobody gave a shit…",
">\n\nCrazy thing = scam artist and probable Russian plant",
">\n\nMy guess is he’s always been a pathological liar and doesn’t have any convictions or principles",
">\n\nHe never supported anything except his own enrichment. The guy is a psycho and always has been.",
">\n\nIs it that odd? I do believe a number of current conservatives both in the media and in politics were at one point pretty liberal, but when they found out they couldn't make money off it, they went to the right.",
">\n\nGrift is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nI don't think he actually believes his own shit, but I do wonder if he is being paid off by a foreign power to help destabilize the US",
">\n\nBasically one-upping Kyrsten Sinema",
">\n\nWhy is he not being recalled by his district ?",
">\n\nWhose payroll is he on?",
">\n\nI just wish this article was about Matt Gaetz",
">\n\nSimilar to people like Trump or Candice Owens. These people have no ideology just the grift path of least resistance.",
">\n\nAll these formerly hidden fun facts about ol' George here are sooo interesting. He's just a never-ending fount of delightful surprises!\nP.S. Did you know that George Santos lassos rampaging bulls with his penis?",
">\n\nYeah, he probably lied about all that too",
">\n\nDamn, I never thought anyone on the republican team could do their makeup better than Trump, but I was wrong!",
">\n\nSir Lies a lot",
">\n\nHe didn’t change. He was always a liar. I wouldn’t be shocked if he was a straight up\nPsychopath.",
">\n\nPrevious Jobs Drag Artist…\nRepublicans: i think we can be a good match and we have a job offer for you.",
">\n\nPlease can someone make a visual timeline of this man’s life and lies? It’s so complicated that I can’t understand the full history of when he showed up in politics and the claims he’s made. It’s too convoluted to comprehend. I need bullet points. Or drawrings.",
">\n\nWho is this guy? Like he could be some sleeper agent",
">\n\nso he's clearly either an opportunist, or a legit crazy person... or both",
">\n\nThis story doesn’t even seem real.",
">\n\n“Article I, Section 2, Clause 2: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.”\nHow did he get into congress if you need to be a U.S. citizen for at least 7 years?",
">\n\nHe wanted progressive policies for his own country. He's happy to profit from destroying this one.",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is Glenn Greenwald?",
">\n\nI've never seen him and Kyrsten Sinema in the same room together.\nI'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'",
">\n\nWhich sounds more realistic?\n1) hundreds and hundreds of people are all lying about one person, across continents\n2) one person is lying A BUNCH.",
">\n\nI want to know if he's actually a US citizen, or if just lied about that like everything else.",
">\n\nAre we sure that \"George Santos\" is not just a Sacha Baron Cohen project at this point?",
">\n\nThis is literally full grift mode mask off. There isn't any hard evidence a guy like Dave Rubin switches to the right for money, but we all know it's true.\nThis grift has receipts.",
">\n\nHe goes where the grift is. Right now the maga crowd is so reactionary and blinded by the identity politics of the right that they don't notice their pockets being picked",
">\n\nThe crazy theory of him being actually an actor working for Sasha Baron Cohen sounds less and less crazy every day.",
">\n\nProbably just a grifter who saw where the suckers were at. People like him don't have any real political beliefs.",
">\n\nThe quote that stood out to me is “he wanted to be famous, no matter what.” He got his wish.",
">\n\nSo he’s drag Trump?",
">\n\nMany people are actually left leaning and for policies that benefit many people, all people. Until they move to the US, and are fed “patriotic” adjectives by the GOP. \nI.e. my in laws.",
">\n\nOr he just knew which party would be more receptive to grift",
">\n\nIt’s so nice to see the GOP, the party of \"facts and logic,” standing by a party member known to be so honest and truthful...",
">\n\nRepublicans need to stop endorsing con-men and Yahoos. The Republican Party is looking like some kind of Clown Party.",
">\n\nIt’s like bizarro Kyrsten Sinema… is he a democrat plant for revenge purposes? /s?",
">\n\nWhat if he's trying to infiltrate the enemy and do a double-cross and we all blew his cover?",
">\n\nAll the crazy that Russian money could buy.",
">\n\nYeah, these types of people stand for nothing.\nThey just shift into whatever the environment calls for.",
">\n\nMakes u really wonder what plans he has for any confidential information he may be privy to during his term.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to me how this happens. Like there was no real Republican that was interested in the office so they just went with this guy? Like how does it happen.",
">\n\nThis is a real republican...",
">\n\nIs he the Cousin of Ronnette Desantis from Florida???",
">\n\nThis guy is nuts. When I first saw stories of this dude I thought he looked off af. His look just didn’t fit. Like a skinwalker. And every story, including this one, has only affirmed those instincts more. Uncanny valley in the modern age.",
">\n\nHas Glenn Greenwald gotten on the case yet being an investigative journalist who lives in Brazil???",
">\n\nMan just wanted some free healthcare for life",
">\n\nEver read “Kiss of the Spider Woman?” A flamboyant gay drag queen in South America is joyfully apolitical even as the government is cracking down on people like him. This makes him an easy mark, and in return for little favors the fascists turn him into a double agent working for them instead.",
">\n\nIt’s easy to get elected if you just spew enough hate into the right people.",
">\n\nIt would be so easy to be a right wing grifter",
">\n\nHe probably got introduced to Putin by Glenn Greenwald.",
">\n\nIf this whole thing turns out to be some piece of performance art. I will admit it's impressive.",
">\n\nHe has to be friends with Glen Greenwald",
">\n\nCapitalism consumes those with a weak mind. Makes sense Santos betrayed the left and gave in to the vast wealth the conservative movement offered. Dude was an opportunist, and the GOP gullible rich assholes. Perfect marriage",
">\n\nThey love how the crazies distract the libs so much that they'll keep electing them until it's the GCP.",
">\n\nLauren Boebert was a sugar baby found through a casting website.\nThe whole plan is to make sure that tons of clown candidates break through.\nIt creates the narrative that all government is corrupt and we need a strong fascist to fix things. \"I mean, you don't see the Democrats doing anything to stop Santos or MTG or Boebert...\" they'll argue as they throw Santos out.",
">\n\n\"Crazy\" is more likely to be accepted by the Republican party, the Democrats would have turned him away.",
">\n\n\"this crazy thing\" being your standard political grifter?",
">\n\nThe Big Reveal: He is Andy Kaufman.",
">\n\nNo it's a republicans so desperate to win a seat in any district that even crazy are on the menu.",
">\n\nLike Trump and Musk, too. I guess it takes far less effort to gather and keep idiots as constituents",
">\n\nI feel at this point I need a docuseries about what the hell is going on with this guy.",
">\n\nDuh. He followed the money. So did Trump. And Candice Owens.",
">\n\nMoney is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nOut of the many characteristics he has, his most outstanding feature is his ability to lie. So he turned to the party of liars.",
">\n\nIt’s always the same shit. Some loser tried and failed to fit in with leftists because they had a shallow grasp on progressivism and were more interested with personal gain and were willing to abandon everything they claimed they stood for, all so that they can go grift and get money from conservatives making themselves out to be “one of the good ones”. Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, George santos, Jimmy dore, the list goes on.",
">\n\nWhen they can no longer defend him in the face of the mudslide of lies, they say he's a \"leftist\". Lol omg seriously? He never went anywhere as a Democrat. This idiot is a con artist pure and simple. He got elected Ted as a GOP Rep. Those are the facts.",
">\n\nJust like most of the other GOP they look at their job as entertainment and personal gain. It's all a game to them like going to Vegas.",
">\n\nWhat kind of art do they do?",
">\n\nThe American Dream.",
">\n\nTroll level: 1000",
">\n\nAnd this is the Republican Party in a nutshell. No background checks. Just wants a seat in congress!",
">\n\nThis is just like new Mexican immigrants like Paola Ramos who was right-wing in Mexico yet when they come to the U.S. they are left wing.",
">\n\nI am all for Brazilian drag artists in general, even the mendacious kind, but it's rather shocking that one could become a MAGA congressman so easily. WTF, America."
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The GOP is the way they are because of money. They have lost sight that they are actually mandated to run and improve the country. That has taken a back seat.
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"He knew conservatives would be the easiest marks. He was right.",
">\n\nIf I pulled a grift on Republican voters, I'd immediately flip to Democrat after winning election.\nI am reasonably confident I could continue to manipulate them even as a Democrat lmao",
">\n\nAh, the Sinema strategy.",
">\n\nNot terribly smart. Sinema might want to make money as a lobbyist after she leaves politics but she has almost no good relations with either the Democrats or GOP. Her grifter tactics are going to backfire hard",
">\n\nWhen you make more money than you can spend in a lifetime, does it matter",
">\n\nGiven her whole \"prada-socialist\" gimmick from a few years ago, I'm going to bet she has a spending problem.",
">\n\nthat article was oddly enthralling thank you",
">\n\nHaha I thought the same thing. Glad you enjoyed it",
">\n\nThe best part of this is watching the lack of integrity of his fellow republicans get exposed as they jump through hoops to keep supporting him.",
">\n\nI had the thought of \"what if that's the point of the long con\" but immediately shot that down because consistency, integrity, and appearances don't matter. Them being caught in a double standard doesn't matter.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is what the GOP is now. It's entirely filled by grifters who find some way to tap into peoples' dissatisfaction with Democrats. It has nothing to do with ideas or ideology or charisma or even anger in some cases. Mtg got in with qanon. Matt gaetz got in by having a rich dad. George Santos got in because it was a good year for Republicans in new york. And trump got in because he ran against Hillary Clinton.\nNobody cares about the results. They probably don't even care about the current trans panic. They stopped caring about the election years ago. And now they don't even care about q. \nThis is the modern republican party. And by the looks of it they overdosed on nihilism",
">\n\nI'm so exhausted living in a world with adult babies.",
">\n\nMuch prefer the diaper lovers, at least they keep to themselves.",
">\n\nHe could smell the money. It's all about the grift. Tomorrow I could start being a right wing grifter and within a year be a millionaire....\nHey, wait a minute. Excuse me...",
">\n\nMan the amount of times I have thought \"ya know if it weren't for this pesky conscience, I could be rich right now, just gotta tell the sheep what they want to hear and they will throw their money at you.\"\nBut I would feel bad about fleecing people out of their money, so I don't. Morals always getting in the way of making money...",
">\n\nIt's a problem. I couldn't live with myself.",
">\n\nRight?\nIve been tempted to start a megachurch so many times, but I would feel so horrible lying to those people to extract their money from them.",
">\n\nMaybe starting a new religion isn’t a bad thing. All religions are more like clustered philosophies and sets of rules on how to live a good life; the mythology and associated deities are secondary to that purpose\nIt wouldn’t be hard to make a new religion more ethical than Mormonism at least",
">\n\nI've had that thought, call it the Church of Autotheism, and base it around the idea we are all our own gods, in that we are responsible for our own actions, and the consequences of those actions. We are gods because we change the world every time we interact it with, no matter how minor that interaction is or how subtle the change caused is.\nThe hope being that if you make people aware of their actions and the consequences that they would choose to be good. Which is probably wishful thinking at best.",
">\n\nIt would fail as a religion\n\n\nEvery religion advocates for consequentialism. Every single one.\n\n\nThe purpose of Gods whether they be Allah, Buddha, Vishnu, Ahura Mazda, The Jade Emperor, etc. is to remind people that human beings are not Gods; that human beings are ultimately falliable and that there is a reason mankind is in a fallen state, whether it be sin, haram, desire, karma, etc. Religion doesn’t work without a direct figure of worship for this reason",
">\n\nYea I know. It doesn't come with that fear of divine or cosmic retribution that hooks people.\nCan't scare people if you whole thing is \"everything is chaos, nothing means anything, so why not try being nice to each other to make things more pleasant?\" except dressed up in theological language.",
">\n\nIsnt he wanted for some crimes back in brazil?",
">\n\nBeing an extreme right wing operative is much more profitable.",
">\n\nEspecially if you're a minority. They'll build you the biggest, most expensive pedestal you've ever seen so they can show the world \"See? We can't possibly be oppressors! Here is someone we want to oppress that agrees with us!“\nAnd when you've finally helped them accomplish their goals, you'll have the honor of being second against the wall.\nAnyway, what this guy claimed years ago and what this guy claims today simply doesn't matter. His word is worthless and trying to sort the truth from the lies is a fools errand. \nHe may not even know the answer himself.",
">\n\nRemember that even in nazi germany there were Jews agreeing, supporting, and collaborating with Hitler. Only to end up in concentration camps in the end.",
">\n\nSame reason Trump switched.\nConservatives are ripe for the taking and have zero critical thinking skills.",
">\n\nSame reason for the difference in advertisements you see in conservative media. They will buy anything. All sorts of random pills, gold scams, objective trash as seen on TV stuff, scam finance stuff, etc, etc. All of this on prime time cable. You don't see them on regular media because market research is telling advertisers that conservatives are the stupidest demographic.",
">\n\nPart of me just wants to create a non profit and milk these idiots dry and then just keep 95% of the donations for running the non profit…\nEasy money.",
">\n\n\"Ted Nugent's Fund For Repossessing Mexicans' food? Sign me the fuck up\"\nActually it's me and my bros using their money to buy all the tacos we can eat...",
">\n\nI'm so ready for this idiot to be out of the news. Can he just resign in disgrace already?",
">\n\nLol it's cute if you think politicians still resign in this day",
">\n\nDemocrats resign in disgrace. \nRepublicans just keep on doubling down to the cheers of their voters.",
">\n\nDemocrats resign over fucking nothing. \nFucking nothing makes a Republican resign.",
">\n\nI'm honestly worried Biden might resign over these documents found in his residence...",
">\n\nNot worried. The presidents daily schedule is top secret. But eventually outdated and useless info. He probably kept the schedules with his notes and didn’t think it was really an issue to people with common sense. Time will tell. Except for on Fox News.",
">\n\nSeems like he had the same \"I can make so much money grifting the idiots on the right\" idea that I've had many times.\nOnly difference is that he's actually twisted enough to go out and do it. I say I'll do it quite often, but I'm not shitty enough to go through with it.",
">\n\nI have had this thought so many times as a bilingual x missionary kid. If we ran together we could make a killing! :P",
">\n\nI was a Bible Thumper, went to Christian school.. Oh man I could tute the tune on the horn they play. Like a fucking fiddle it would be so easy.",
">\n\nChristian college here bud, join the ticket.",
">\n\nChristian high school, christian college, white with blond hair and parents are rich, and born and raised in the south. It would be sooo easy.",
">\n\nYou are invited too bud, we need a vet and we're fuckin set.",
">\n\nHell ya! Let’s put this religious trauma to use",
">\n\nI'm an old ass left coast librul and I welcome this chaos magic.",
">\n\nFantastic work, did you train a model with every George Santos picture you could find?",
">\n\nTrained w about 30 pics.",
">\n\nI'm impressed",
">\n\nCriminals recognize criminals. I’m convinced any person running with an R next to their name at this point is strictly an opportunistic grifter with zero interest in governing",
">\n\nWas this comment written in the late 1980's. Ronald Reagan...",
">\n\nThe precise moment productivity and wages set off on their separate journeys and never spoke again.",
">\n\nAww come on that money gonna trickle down any year now...",
">\n\nProof that anyone that can lie can be an elected republican",
">\n\nDude, it’s getting sad at this point.\nIt’s blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention, and I hate to say it because again it makes me sad, but conservatives are rubes. These people have progressively seen how gullible they are and now there’s a feeding frenzy. \nThey smelled blood in the water when they saw Trump’s popularity rose prior to the 2016 election and they haven’t stopped since.",
">\n\n\"If that idiot can grift so can I\"",
">\n\nImagine if we took money out of politics and politicians were only working for the betterment of the people. We wouldn't have nearly as many of these stories where a conservative person is looking down on or doing something they say they're against.\nShit, if our politicians weren't suckling the teat of the rich we would likely have healthcare, people would be fed, and this manufactured inflation that's making us all poorer would have been nipped I'm the bud back when they first thought they could pull one over on the working class. \nInstead, we just get the stick.",
">\n\nTake the excess campaign dollars out of it. Don’t allow ANY money to be donated. Let every candidate start with the same dollar amount, maybe 5-10 million raised from donations and use it for expenses as they tour across the country, meeting the voters. Once the campaign money is gone, it’s gone. A bipartisan site online could accept the donations for any candidate and keep a running total of money received. Have TV debates, with the understanding that anyone breaking the rules will be immediately muted, and asked to leave. Have town hall meetings. Get politics back to the PEOPLE, to grassroots campaigns that don’t spend $100 million on one candidate. It levels the playing field for anyone to run that can raise $10 million through grassroots efforts. No politician should be beholden to huge campaign contributors. Do away with lobbying! Our country can be run better by a humanitarian,and a great administration of extremely qualified individuals. Military, Finance, Social issues, Education, Intelligence, Veterans issues, etc. we have to change the way the US is run, including elections. The richest people in the country are BUYING politicians…something the majority of the country can’t compete in, and don’t want to compete in. It would be wonderful to start voting in people based on their intelligence, their character, and their history and background. People who were overachievers in high school, college, and work. Vetting for every candidate, and any negative findings that are related to morals is disqualifying. Whoever is running this country need to be above reproach. Maybe Hakeem Jeffries, who has a great track record and is younger and more enthusiastic that anyone in the Republican Party He’s done so much for his constituents, that it’s obvious he’s a good man , and very intelligent",
">\n\nI agree with everything you said except the Hakeem Jeffries part. He takes tons of campaign bribes from multiple industries. There are democrats in the house of representatives with much cleaner records than him.",
">\n\nSantos is whoever he needs to be to pull a scam.",
">\n\nHe didn't didn't run on a whim. Someone \"encouraged\" him. Trace the origin of his money.",
">\n\nTrump has been a registered Democrat, Reformer & Republican.\nGrifters go where the money is at.",
">\n\nbeing a republican politician is basically an extremely immoral form of drag when you think about it.",
">\n\nI am now convinced that he got all of his money from the Republican party. I'm convinced that they knew he was lying all along, and they did whatever they could to get him elected. Why? Because he provides a really good distraction. While we're all watching the George Santos show, the Republicans are quietly destroying democracy.",
">\n\nHe knew it would be easy to fool a bunch of conservatives, and unfortunately he was right. Bunch of easy marks.",
">\n\nWhenever I run across a gay Republican (and they are definitely out there) I immediately assume they’re a sociopath.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian, who's perpetually befuddled by American politics, I'm amazed that someone with that gay of a face is flashing white power symbols.",
">\n\nIs George even Tony’s real name?",
">\n\nHe didn't just pop up out of nowhere and win a race all on his own. Someone chose him to be the front-man, organized, and paid for his campaign. Be interesting to find out who that was.",
">\n\nThis dude is a distraction. I’m not super into politics but I have a feeling that someone is doing some really shady shit and it being overlooked for this low hanging piece of shit.",
">\n\nIs it just me or are right wingers their own unique brand of especially gullible marks? I mean, scams don't have a political leaning but there's a lot of ways to make money selling explicitly right wing nonsense.",
">\n\nSo basically, New York elected Borat to Congress.",
">\n\nRepublicans elected him to congress",
">\n\nNo not at all, he won the Long Island district that almost always votes democrat. But it’s got a large Jewish population so he lied about being Jewish.",
">\n\nLong Islanders continue to be the stupidest fucking people",
">\n\nI'm still grappling with the fact that people care more about when he dressed up in costume as a different gender, rather than the extensive lies about his credentials.",
">\n\nI don't think \"they\" do. I.e. I think most normal people realize all that other shit is waaay worse. But everyone is wondering what the deal-breaker will be for the GOP, and you'd think that'd be proof he was a drag queen, hence the attention that's getting.\nIOW it's just evidence of how low our expectations are of the Republicans.",
">\n\nIf only I was shameless and doesn't care how much people will hate me, I definitely would run for a republican office.",
">\n\nIf you’re a conman trying to get money from political campaigns conservatives are an easy mark.",
">\n\nThere's a reason people right-wing grift. Easy money. It's also why the left-wing grift isn't a thing.",
">\n\nI’m noticing a trend with all these right wing psychos, there’s a whole lot of South Americans and Cubans in their ranks.",
">\n\nI knew the water circled the drain differently when crossing the equator, but this is ridiculous.",
">\n\nThis thread doesn't deserve your comment.",
">\n\nHe saw how gullible the Right is and how to exploit them for $",
">\n\nHe's not right or left. He's a con man. And the smart voters in NY actually voted him into office. Maybe do some research before you vote and don't vote along party lines.",
">\n\nIt’s just the last part, and they won’t.",
">\n\nMaybe he is a Trojan horse",
">\n\nOr a Trojan rep",
">\n\nHe did what Trump did, realized who the stupid people were and joined their side.",
">\n\nIs this dude getting cawthorned? Do Republicans make them go and commit kompromat before they support them?",
">\n\nThis will be the thing that really angers the Right....",
">\n\nGeorge Santo is a Lizard Person e.g. a Chameleon changing to his current environment in order to survive and prosper.",
">\n\nSome people flip flop between political extremes. On a rare occation it means they have an open mind. More often than not, they are just fools, though.",
">\n\nIt is so tragic that his family was in the holocaust and his mother died at the towers on 911",
">\n\nPure sociopath wil say anything to anyone",
">\n\nYou mean turn into a Russian agent for money and power beyond his imagination to hurt a country he didn't give a flying rat's ass about? He's not even a traitor - he's just working for Papa Putin to fuck the Americans.",
">\n\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent",
">\n\nOpportunistic Brazilian ConArtist",
">\n\nThis just goes to show why vetting processes need to happen before someone is elected",
">\n\nHe's one of those, like Trump, that is whatever is most convenient at that moment. Not really anything at all when you cut down to the deepest layer. \nTrump and Hillary were such friends that he invited her to his wedding. Years later, he's this alt-right champion. It's ridiculous and barely covers the fact that he will play any side that benefits him. Just like this boy Santos. Both sociopathic liars with fragile egos and shaky claims to any thing remotely verifiable as truth.",
">\n\nUndiagnosed personality disorders are all around us.",
">\n\nSays a lot about George Santos that I believe a random Drag Artist in Brazil over the elected politician George Santos \nCaveat, Not that I wouldnt believe something a person says (drag artist or not), but if random people came out on the internet and said, “Trump randomly said to me one time he loves Democrat policies and was a huge Obama fan” I’d be like, “Okay, random person, Trumps a shitty person but I doubt that.” George Santos is such a fucking liar I’m like, “She probably telling the truth”",
">\n\nEvery day this looks more like a borat movie in real life.",
">\n\nIF America had rejected tRump, this pathological liar, wouldn't be here now.",
">\n\nI don't know about everyone else but I'm starting to think that this guy might not be the most trustworthy",
">\n\nWho is this person? He fooled so many.",
">\n\nHe saw a reality tv star play a role upon a mountain of lies and now he thinks he can too.",
">\n\nMaybe the left is missing the message here. Run as republican, be outraged by all the silly shit that Ra yell at, but then vote leftwing.\nPretend to be a right-wing nut job, but vote left",
">\n\nBecause this is how you get elected and get a fuckton of money, obviously. It's easy to do. Look at Musk and Trump - also previously non-nationalists (but always grifters) capitalizing on the rightzis' lunacy and hysteria. 'Pay me if you want to survive the assault on white identity and religion' is a ~~powerful~~ profitable message.",
">\n\nR/conservative",
">\n\nCon-men have no political philosophies, just scams.",
">\n\nThese fucks just want fame. They don’t care which side they’re on, just as long as they see themselves in the paper, on the news and internet. Narcissists.",
">\n\nHe wasn’t a “Leftist” but he certainly has all the familiar traits of a sociopathic Conservative. Georgieboi will say and do anything to get what he wants. It is your stereotypical malignant Narcissist.",
">\n\nSleeper agent?",
">\n\nThe reason for “this crazy thing” is called money. He was obviously bought by some group to run as a gay republican to get votes in a contested district, and it worked. All efforts should be put in it tracking down who paid him to do this and creating strong ethical standards for elected officials",
">\n\nI can guarantee you he didn't just recently turn crazy",
">\n\nIf the song was about Santos, it basically would have been I met a drag queen, she was horrible, I went somewhere else.",
">\n\nI'm gonna channel my inner Obi Wan and ask who's more foolish, the fool, or the fool who votes for him?",
">\n\nThis is how politics works in the US. Hasan and his uncle Cenk talk about this all the time. Going the right wing route is a way more profitable route. For a lot of them its just a grift. The marks/voters are an extremely manipulable bunch, and the funders (billionaires/corporations) have big pockets",
">\n\nHonestly, I think this guy is awesome. Taking the republican clown archetype to the absolute extreme and exposing just how corrupt and ridiculous they are as they fumble to continue supporting him.",
">\n\nDiamond and Silk were rabid left wingers until they realized the grift opportunities were much better on the other side.",
">\n\n🎶🎶 Money money money, must be funny, in a rich man's world. 🎶🎶🎶🎶",
">\n\nThe USA- where literally anyone can come and become a right wing biggot.",
">\n\nStick that man's brain in a pigeon and it will fly backwards...",
">\n\nHe is nothing but an opportunist.",
">\n\nWe really need to see this guy’s birth certificate.",
">\n\nThe oppo researchers in the NY Democratic Party should be sacked. Honestly. How the hell did this guy get through a whole campaign without this coming out?",
">\n\nIt did come out. And local press covered it. It’s just that nobody gave a shit…",
">\n\nCrazy thing = scam artist and probable Russian plant",
">\n\nMy guess is he’s always been a pathological liar and doesn’t have any convictions or principles",
">\n\nHe never supported anything except his own enrichment. The guy is a psycho and always has been.",
">\n\nIs it that odd? I do believe a number of current conservatives both in the media and in politics were at one point pretty liberal, but when they found out they couldn't make money off it, they went to the right.",
">\n\nGrift is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nI don't think he actually believes his own shit, but I do wonder if he is being paid off by a foreign power to help destabilize the US",
">\n\nBasically one-upping Kyrsten Sinema",
">\n\nWhy is he not being recalled by his district ?",
">\n\nWhose payroll is he on?",
">\n\nI just wish this article was about Matt Gaetz",
">\n\nSimilar to people like Trump or Candice Owens. These people have no ideology just the grift path of least resistance.",
">\n\nAll these formerly hidden fun facts about ol' George here are sooo interesting. He's just a never-ending fount of delightful surprises!\nP.S. Did you know that George Santos lassos rampaging bulls with his penis?",
">\n\nYeah, he probably lied about all that too",
">\n\nDamn, I never thought anyone on the republican team could do their makeup better than Trump, but I was wrong!",
">\n\nSir Lies a lot",
">\n\nHe didn’t change. He was always a liar. I wouldn’t be shocked if he was a straight up\nPsychopath.",
">\n\nPrevious Jobs Drag Artist…\nRepublicans: i think we can be a good match and we have a job offer for you.",
">\n\nPlease can someone make a visual timeline of this man’s life and lies? It’s so complicated that I can’t understand the full history of when he showed up in politics and the claims he’s made. It’s too convoluted to comprehend. I need bullet points. Or drawrings.",
">\n\nWho is this guy? Like he could be some sleeper agent",
">\n\nso he's clearly either an opportunist, or a legit crazy person... or both",
">\n\nThis story doesn’t even seem real.",
">\n\n“Article I, Section 2, Clause 2: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.”\nHow did he get into congress if you need to be a U.S. citizen for at least 7 years?",
">\n\nHe wanted progressive policies for his own country. He's happy to profit from destroying this one.",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is Glenn Greenwald?",
">\n\nI've never seen him and Kyrsten Sinema in the same room together.\nI'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'",
">\n\nWhich sounds more realistic?\n1) hundreds and hundreds of people are all lying about one person, across continents\n2) one person is lying A BUNCH.",
">\n\nI want to know if he's actually a US citizen, or if just lied about that like everything else.",
">\n\nAre we sure that \"George Santos\" is not just a Sacha Baron Cohen project at this point?",
">\n\nThis is literally full grift mode mask off. There isn't any hard evidence a guy like Dave Rubin switches to the right for money, but we all know it's true.\nThis grift has receipts.",
">\n\nHe goes where the grift is. Right now the maga crowd is so reactionary and blinded by the identity politics of the right that they don't notice their pockets being picked",
">\n\nThe crazy theory of him being actually an actor working for Sasha Baron Cohen sounds less and less crazy every day.",
">\n\nProbably just a grifter who saw where the suckers were at. People like him don't have any real political beliefs.",
">\n\nThe quote that stood out to me is “he wanted to be famous, no matter what.” He got his wish.",
">\n\nSo he’s drag Trump?",
">\n\nMany people are actually left leaning and for policies that benefit many people, all people. Until they move to the US, and are fed “patriotic” adjectives by the GOP. \nI.e. my in laws.",
">\n\nOr he just knew which party would be more receptive to grift",
">\n\nIt’s so nice to see the GOP, the party of \"facts and logic,” standing by a party member known to be so honest and truthful...",
">\n\nRepublicans need to stop endorsing con-men and Yahoos. The Republican Party is looking like some kind of Clown Party.",
">\n\nIt’s like bizarro Kyrsten Sinema… is he a democrat plant for revenge purposes? /s?",
">\n\nWhat if he's trying to infiltrate the enemy and do a double-cross and we all blew his cover?",
">\n\nAll the crazy that Russian money could buy.",
">\n\nYeah, these types of people stand for nothing.\nThey just shift into whatever the environment calls for.",
">\n\nMakes u really wonder what plans he has for any confidential information he may be privy to during his term.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to me how this happens. Like there was no real Republican that was interested in the office so they just went with this guy? Like how does it happen.",
">\n\nThis is a real republican...",
">\n\nIs he the Cousin of Ronnette Desantis from Florida???",
">\n\nThis guy is nuts. When I first saw stories of this dude I thought he looked off af. His look just didn’t fit. Like a skinwalker. And every story, including this one, has only affirmed those instincts more. Uncanny valley in the modern age.",
">\n\nHas Glenn Greenwald gotten on the case yet being an investigative journalist who lives in Brazil???",
">\n\nMan just wanted some free healthcare for life",
">\n\nEver read “Kiss of the Spider Woman?” A flamboyant gay drag queen in South America is joyfully apolitical even as the government is cracking down on people like him. This makes him an easy mark, and in return for little favors the fascists turn him into a double agent working for them instead.",
">\n\nIt’s easy to get elected if you just spew enough hate into the right people.",
">\n\nIt would be so easy to be a right wing grifter",
">\n\nHe probably got introduced to Putin by Glenn Greenwald.",
">\n\nIf this whole thing turns out to be some piece of performance art. I will admit it's impressive.",
">\n\nHe has to be friends with Glen Greenwald",
">\n\nCapitalism consumes those with a weak mind. Makes sense Santos betrayed the left and gave in to the vast wealth the conservative movement offered. Dude was an opportunist, and the GOP gullible rich assholes. Perfect marriage",
">\n\nThey love how the crazies distract the libs so much that they'll keep electing them until it's the GCP.",
">\n\nLauren Boebert was a sugar baby found through a casting website.\nThe whole plan is to make sure that tons of clown candidates break through.\nIt creates the narrative that all government is corrupt and we need a strong fascist to fix things. \"I mean, you don't see the Democrats doing anything to stop Santos or MTG or Boebert...\" they'll argue as they throw Santos out.",
">\n\n\"Crazy\" is more likely to be accepted by the Republican party, the Democrats would have turned him away.",
">\n\n\"this crazy thing\" being your standard political grifter?",
">\n\nThe Big Reveal: He is Andy Kaufman.",
">\n\nNo it's a republicans so desperate to win a seat in any district that even crazy are on the menu.",
">\n\nLike Trump and Musk, too. I guess it takes far less effort to gather and keep idiots as constituents",
">\n\nI feel at this point I need a docuseries about what the hell is going on with this guy.",
">\n\nDuh. He followed the money. So did Trump. And Candice Owens.",
">\n\nMoney is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nOut of the many characteristics he has, his most outstanding feature is his ability to lie. So he turned to the party of liars.",
">\n\nIt’s always the same shit. Some loser tried and failed to fit in with leftists because they had a shallow grasp on progressivism and were more interested with personal gain and were willing to abandon everything they claimed they stood for, all so that they can go grift and get money from conservatives making themselves out to be “one of the good ones”. Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, George santos, Jimmy dore, the list goes on.",
">\n\nWhen they can no longer defend him in the face of the mudslide of lies, they say he's a \"leftist\". Lol omg seriously? He never went anywhere as a Democrat. This idiot is a con artist pure and simple. He got elected Ted as a GOP Rep. Those are the facts.",
">\n\nJust like most of the other GOP they look at their job as entertainment and personal gain. It's all a game to them like going to Vegas.",
">\n\nWhat kind of art do they do?",
">\n\nThe American Dream.",
">\n\nTroll level: 1000",
">\n\nAnd this is the Republican Party in a nutshell. No background checks. Just wants a seat in congress!",
">\n\nThis is just like new Mexican immigrants like Paola Ramos who was right-wing in Mexico yet when they come to the U.S. they are left wing.",
">\n\nI am all for Brazilian drag artists in general, even the mendacious kind, but it's rather shocking that one could become a MAGA congressman so easily. WTF, America.",
">\n\nHe never left drag. He just changed his costume."
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"He knew conservatives would be the easiest marks. He was right.",
">\n\nIf I pulled a grift on Republican voters, I'd immediately flip to Democrat after winning election.\nI am reasonably confident I could continue to manipulate them even as a Democrat lmao",
">\n\nAh, the Sinema strategy.",
">\n\nNot terribly smart. Sinema might want to make money as a lobbyist after she leaves politics but she has almost no good relations with either the Democrats or GOP. Her grifter tactics are going to backfire hard",
">\n\nWhen you make more money than you can spend in a lifetime, does it matter",
">\n\nGiven her whole \"prada-socialist\" gimmick from a few years ago, I'm going to bet she has a spending problem.",
">\n\nthat article was oddly enthralling thank you",
">\n\nHaha I thought the same thing. Glad you enjoyed it",
">\n\nThe best part of this is watching the lack of integrity of his fellow republicans get exposed as they jump through hoops to keep supporting him.",
">\n\nI had the thought of \"what if that's the point of the long con\" but immediately shot that down because consistency, integrity, and appearances don't matter. Them being caught in a double standard doesn't matter.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is what the GOP is now. It's entirely filled by grifters who find some way to tap into peoples' dissatisfaction with Democrats. It has nothing to do with ideas or ideology or charisma or even anger in some cases. Mtg got in with qanon. Matt gaetz got in by having a rich dad. George Santos got in because it was a good year for Republicans in new york. And trump got in because he ran against Hillary Clinton.\nNobody cares about the results. They probably don't even care about the current trans panic. They stopped caring about the election years ago. And now they don't even care about q. \nThis is the modern republican party. And by the looks of it they overdosed on nihilism",
">\n\nI'm so exhausted living in a world with adult babies.",
">\n\nMuch prefer the diaper lovers, at least they keep to themselves.",
">\n\nHe could smell the money. It's all about the grift. Tomorrow I could start being a right wing grifter and within a year be a millionaire....\nHey, wait a minute. Excuse me...",
">\n\nMan the amount of times I have thought \"ya know if it weren't for this pesky conscience, I could be rich right now, just gotta tell the sheep what they want to hear and they will throw their money at you.\"\nBut I would feel bad about fleecing people out of their money, so I don't. Morals always getting in the way of making money...",
">\n\nIt's a problem. I couldn't live with myself.",
">\n\nRight?\nIve been tempted to start a megachurch so many times, but I would feel so horrible lying to those people to extract their money from them.",
">\n\nMaybe starting a new religion isn’t a bad thing. All religions are more like clustered philosophies and sets of rules on how to live a good life; the mythology and associated deities are secondary to that purpose\nIt wouldn’t be hard to make a new religion more ethical than Mormonism at least",
">\n\nI've had that thought, call it the Church of Autotheism, and base it around the idea we are all our own gods, in that we are responsible for our own actions, and the consequences of those actions. We are gods because we change the world every time we interact it with, no matter how minor that interaction is or how subtle the change caused is.\nThe hope being that if you make people aware of their actions and the consequences that they would choose to be good. Which is probably wishful thinking at best.",
">\n\nIt would fail as a religion\n\n\nEvery religion advocates for consequentialism. Every single one.\n\n\nThe purpose of Gods whether they be Allah, Buddha, Vishnu, Ahura Mazda, The Jade Emperor, etc. is to remind people that human beings are not Gods; that human beings are ultimately falliable and that there is a reason mankind is in a fallen state, whether it be sin, haram, desire, karma, etc. Religion doesn’t work without a direct figure of worship for this reason",
">\n\nYea I know. It doesn't come with that fear of divine or cosmic retribution that hooks people.\nCan't scare people if you whole thing is \"everything is chaos, nothing means anything, so why not try being nice to each other to make things more pleasant?\" except dressed up in theological language.",
">\n\nIsnt he wanted for some crimes back in brazil?",
">\n\nBeing an extreme right wing operative is much more profitable.",
">\n\nEspecially if you're a minority. They'll build you the biggest, most expensive pedestal you've ever seen so they can show the world \"See? We can't possibly be oppressors! Here is someone we want to oppress that agrees with us!“\nAnd when you've finally helped them accomplish their goals, you'll have the honor of being second against the wall.\nAnyway, what this guy claimed years ago and what this guy claims today simply doesn't matter. His word is worthless and trying to sort the truth from the lies is a fools errand. \nHe may not even know the answer himself.",
">\n\nRemember that even in nazi germany there were Jews agreeing, supporting, and collaborating with Hitler. Only to end up in concentration camps in the end.",
">\n\nSame reason Trump switched.\nConservatives are ripe for the taking and have zero critical thinking skills.",
">\n\nSame reason for the difference in advertisements you see in conservative media. They will buy anything. All sorts of random pills, gold scams, objective trash as seen on TV stuff, scam finance stuff, etc, etc. All of this on prime time cable. You don't see them on regular media because market research is telling advertisers that conservatives are the stupidest demographic.",
">\n\nPart of me just wants to create a non profit and milk these idiots dry and then just keep 95% of the donations for running the non profit…\nEasy money.",
">\n\n\"Ted Nugent's Fund For Repossessing Mexicans' food? Sign me the fuck up\"\nActually it's me and my bros using their money to buy all the tacos we can eat...",
">\n\nI'm so ready for this idiot to be out of the news. Can he just resign in disgrace already?",
">\n\nLol it's cute if you think politicians still resign in this day",
">\n\nDemocrats resign in disgrace. \nRepublicans just keep on doubling down to the cheers of their voters.",
">\n\nDemocrats resign over fucking nothing. \nFucking nothing makes a Republican resign.",
">\n\nI'm honestly worried Biden might resign over these documents found in his residence...",
">\n\nNot worried. The presidents daily schedule is top secret. But eventually outdated and useless info. He probably kept the schedules with his notes and didn’t think it was really an issue to people with common sense. Time will tell. Except for on Fox News.",
">\n\nSeems like he had the same \"I can make so much money grifting the idiots on the right\" idea that I've had many times.\nOnly difference is that he's actually twisted enough to go out and do it. I say I'll do it quite often, but I'm not shitty enough to go through with it.",
">\n\nI have had this thought so many times as a bilingual x missionary kid. If we ran together we could make a killing! :P",
">\n\nI was a Bible Thumper, went to Christian school.. Oh man I could tute the tune on the horn they play. Like a fucking fiddle it would be so easy.",
">\n\nChristian college here bud, join the ticket.",
">\n\nChristian high school, christian college, white with blond hair and parents are rich, and born and raised in the south. It would be sooo easy.",
">\n\nYou are invited too bud, we need a vet and we're fuckin set.",
">\n\nHell ya! Let’s put this religious trauma to use",
">\n\nI'm an old ass left coast librul and I welcome this chaos magic.",
">\n\nFantastic work, did you train a model with every George Santos picture you could find?",
">\n\nTrained w about 30 pics.",
">\n\nI'm impressed",
">\n\nCriminals recognize criminals. I’m convinced any person running with an R next to their name at this point is strictly an opportunistic grifter with zero interest in governing",
">\n\nWas this comment written in the late 1980's. Ronald Reagan...",
">\n\nThe precise moment productivity and wages set off on their separate journeys and never spoke again.",
">\n\nAww come on that money gonna trickle down any year now...",
">\n\nProof that anyone that can lie can be an elected republican",
">\n\nDude, it’s getting sad at this point.\nIt’s blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention, and I hate to say it because again it makes me sad, but conservatives are rubes. These people have progressively seen how gullible they are and now there’s a feeding frenzy. \nThey smelled blood in the water when they saw Trump’s popularity rose prior to the 2016 election and they haven’t stopped since.",
">\n\n\"If that idiot can grift so can I\"",
">\n\nImagine if we took money out of politics and politicians were only working for the betterment of the people. We wouldn't have nearly as many of these stories where a conservative person is looking down on or doing something they say they're against.\nShit, if our politicians weren't suckling the teat of the rich we would likely have healthcare, people would be fed, and this manufactured inflation that's making us all poorer would have been nipped I'm the bud back when they first thought they could pull one over on the working class. \nInstead, we just get the stick.",
">\n\nTake the excess campaign dollars out of it. Don’t allow ANY money to be donated. Let every candidate start with the same dollar amount, maybe 5-10 million raised from donations and use it for expenses as they tour across the country, meeting the voters. Once the campaign money is gone, it’s gone. A bipartisan site online could accept the donations for any candidate and keep a running total of money received. Have TV debates, with the understanding that anyone breaking the rules will be immediately muted, and asked to leave. Have town hall meetings. Get politics back to the PEOPLE, to grassroots campaigns that don’t spend $100 million on one candidate. It levels the playing field for anyone to run that can raise $10 million through grassroots efforts. No politician should be beholden to huge campaign contributors. Do away with lobbying! Our country can be run better by a humanitarian,and a great administration of extremely qualified individuals. Military, Finance, Social issues, Education, Intelligence, Veterans issues, etc. we have to change the way the US is run, including elections. The richest people in the country are BUYING politicians…something the majority of the country can’t compete in, and don’t want to compete in. It would be wonderful to start voting in people based on their intelligence, their character, and their history and background. People who were overachievers in high school, college, and work. Vetting for every candidate, and any negative findings that are related to morals is disqualifying. Whoever is running this country need to be above reproach. Maybe Hakeem Jeffries, who has a great track record and is younger and more enthusiastic that anyone in the Republican Party He’s done so much for his constituents, that it’s obvious he’s a good man , and very intelligent",
">\n\nI agree with everything you said except the Hakeem Jeffries part. He takes tons of campaign bribes from multiple industries. There are democrats in the house of representatives with much cleaner records than him.",
">\n\nSantos is whoever he needs to be to pull a scam.",
">\n\nHe didn't didn't run on a whim. Someone \"encouraged\" him. Trace the origin of his money.",
">\n\nTrump has been a registered Democrat, Reformer & Republican.\nGrifters go where the money is at.",
">\n\nbeing a republican politician is basically an extremely immoral form of drag when you think about it.",
">\n\nI am now convinced that he got all of his money from the Republican party. I'm convinced that they knew he was lying all along, and they did whatever they could to get him elected. Why? Because he provides a really good distraction. While we're all watching the George Santos show, the Republicans are quietly destroying democracy.",
">\n\nHe knew it would be easy to fool a bunch of conservatives, and unfortunately he was right. Bunch of easy marks.",
">\n\nWhenever I run across a gay Republican (and they are definitely out there) I immediately assume they’re a sociopath.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian, who's perpetually befuddled by American politics, I'm amazed that someone with that gay of a face is flashing white power symbols.",
">\n\nIs George even Tony’s real name?",
">\n\nHe didn't just pop up out of nowhere and win a race all on his own. Someone chose him to be the front-man, organized, and paid for his campaign. Be interesting to find out who that was.",
">\n\nThis dude is a distraction. I’m not super into politics but I have a feeling that someone is doing some really shady shit and it being overlooked for this low hanging piece of shit.",
">\n\nIs it just me or are right wingers their own unique brand of especially gullible marks? I mean, scams don't have a political leaning but there's a lot of ways to make money selling explicitly right wing nonsense.",
">\n\nSo basically, New York elected Borat to Congress.",
">\n\nRepublicans elected him to congress",
">\n\nNo not at all, he won the Long Island district that almost always votes democrat. But it’s got a large Jewish population so he lied about being Jewish.",
">\n\nLong Islanders continue to be the stupidest fucking people",
">\n\nI'm still grappling with the fact that people care more about when he dressed up in costume as a different gender, rather than the extensive lies about his credentials.",
">\n\nI don't think \"they\" do. I.e. I think most normal people realize all that other shit is waaay worse. But everyone is wondering what the deal-breaker will be for the GOP, and you'd think that'd be proof he was a drag queen, hence the attention that's getting.\nIOW it's just evidence of how low our expectations are of the Republicans.",
">\n\nIf only I was shameless and doesn't care how much people will hate me, I definitely would run for a republican office.",
">\n\nIf you’re a conman trying to get money from political campaigns conservatives are an easy mark.",
">\n\nThere's a reason people right-wing grift. Easy money. It's also why the left-wing grift isn't a thing.",
">\n\nI’m noticing a trend with all these right wing psychos, there’s a whole lot of South Americans and Cubans in their ranks.",
">\n\nI knew the water circled the drain differently when crossing the equator, but this is ridiculous.",
">\n\nThis thread doesn't deserve your comment.",
">\n\nHe saw how gullible the Right is and how to exploit them for $",
">\n\nHe's not right or left. He's a con man. And the smart voters in NY actually voted him into office. Maybe do some research before you vote and don't vote along party lines.",
">\n\nIt’s just the last part, and they won’t.",
">\n\nMaybe he is a Trojan horse",
">\n\nOr a Trojan rep",
">\n\nHe did what Trump did, realized who the stupid people were and joined their side.",
">\n\nIs this dude getting cawthorned? Do Republicans make them go and commit kompromat before they support them?",
">\n\nThis will be the thing that really angers the Right....",
">\n\nGeorge Santo is a Lizard Person e.g. a Chameleon changing to his current environment in order to survive and prosper.",
">\n\nSome people flip flop between political extremes. On a rare occation it means they have an open mind. More often than not, they are just fools, though.",
">\n\nIt is so tragic that his family was in the holocaust and his mother died at the towers on 911",
">\n\nPure sociopath wil say anything to anyone",
">\n\nYou mean turn into a Russian agent for money and power beyond his imagination to hurt a country he didn't give a flying rat's ass about? He's not even a traitor - he's just working for Papa Putin to fuck the Americans.",
">\n\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent",
">\n\nOpportunistic Brazilian ConArtist",
">\n\nThis just goes to show why vetting processes need to happen before someone is elected",
">\n\nHe's one of those, like Trump, that is whatever is most convenient at that moment. Not really anything at all when you cut down to the deepest layer. \nTrump and Hillary were such friends that he invited her to his wedding. Years later, he's this alt-right champion. It's ridiculous and barely covers the fact that he will play any side that benefits him. Just like this boy Santos. Both sociopathic liars with fragile egos and shaky claims to any thing remotely verifiable as truth.",
">\n\nUndiagnosed personality disorders are all around us.",
">\n\nSays a lot about George Santos that I believe a random Drag Artist in Brazil over the elected politician George Santos \nCaveat, Not that I wouldnt believe something a person says (drag artist or not), but if random people came out on the internet and said, “Trump randomly said to me one time he loves Democrat policies and was a huge Obama fan” I’d be like, “Okay, random person, Trumps a shitty person but I doubt that.” George Santos is such a fucking liar I’m like, “She probably telling the truth”",
">\n\nEvery day this looks more like a borat movie in real life.",
">\n\nIF America had rejected tRump, this pathological liar, wouldn't be here now.",
">\n\nI don't know about everyone else but I'm starting to think that this guy might not be the most trustworthy",
">\n\nWho is this person? He fooled so many.",
">\n\nHe saw a reality tv star play a role upon a mountain of lies and now he thinks he can too.",
">\n\nMaybe the left is missing the message here. Run as republican, be outraged by all the silly shit that Ra yell at, but then vote leftwing.\nPretend to be a right-wing nut job, but vote left",
">\n\nBecause this is how you get elected and get a fuckton of money, obviously. It's easy to do. Look at Musk and Trump - also previously non-nationalists (but always grifters) capitalizing on the rightzis' lunacy and hysteria. 'Pay me if you want to survive the assault on white identity and religion' is a ~~powerful~~ profitable message.",
">\n\nR/conservative",
">\n\nCon-men have no political philosophies, just scams.",
">\n\nThese fucks just want fame. They don’t care which side they’re on, just as long as they see themselves in the paper, on the news and internet. Narcissists.",
">\n\nHe wasn’t a “Leftist” but he certainly has all the familiar traits of a sociopathic Conservative. Georgieboi will say and do anything to get what he wants. It is your stereotypical malignant Narcissist.",
">\n\nSleeper agent?",
">\n\nThe reason for “this crazy thing” is called money. He was obviously bought by some group to run as a gay republican to get votes in a contested district, and it worked. All efforts should be put in it tracking down who paid him to do this and creating strong ethical standards for elected officials",
">\n\nI can guarantee you he didn't just recently turn crazy",
">\n\nIf the song was about Santos, it basically would have been I met a drag queen, she was horrible, I went somewhere else.",
">\n\nI'm gonna channel my inner Obi Wan and ask who's more foolish, the fool, or the fool who votes for him?",
">\n\nThis is how politics works in the US. Hasan and his uncle Cenk talk about this all the time. Going the right wing route is a way more profitable route. For a lot of them its just a grift. The marks/voters are an extremely manipulable bunch, and the funders (billionaires/corporations) have big pockets",
">\n\nHonestly, I think this guy is awesome. Taking the republican clown archetype to the absolute extreme and exposing just how corrupt and ridiculous they are as they fumble to continue supporting him.",
">\n\nDiamond and Silk were rabid left wingers until they realized the grift opportunities were much better on the other side.",
">\n\n🎶🎶 Money money money, must be funny, in a rich man's world. 🎶🎶🎶🎶",
">\n\nThe USA- where literally anyone can come and become a right wing biggot.",
">\n\nStick that man's brain in a pigeon and it will fly backwards...",
">\n\nHe is nothing but an opportunist.",
">\n\nWe really need to see this guy’s birth certificate.",
">\n\nThe oppo researchers in the NY Democratic Party should be sacked. Honestly. How the hell did this guy get through a whole campaign without this coming out?",
">\n\nIt did come out. And local press covered it. It’s just that nobody gave a shit…",
">\n\nCrazy thing = scam artist and probable Russian plant",
">\n\nMy guess is he’s always been a pathological liar and doesn’t have any convictions or principles",
">\n\nHe never supported anything except his own enrichment. The guy is a psycho and always has been.",
">\n\nIs it that odd? I do believe a number of current conservatives both in the media and in politics were at one point pretty liberal, but when they found out they couldn't make money off it, they went to the right.",
">\n\nGrift is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nI don't think he actually believes his own shit, but I do wonder if he is being paid off by a foreign power to help destabilize the US",
">\n\nBasically one-upping Kyrsten Sinema",
">\n\nWhy is he not being recalled by his district ?",
">\n\nWhose payroll is he on?",
">\n\nI just wish this article was about Matt Gaetz",
">\n\nSimilar to people like Trump or Candice Owens. These people have no ideology just the grift path of least resistance.",
">\n\nAll these formerly hidden fun facts about ol' George here are sooo interesting. He's just a never-ending fount of delightful surprises!\nP.S. Did you know that George Santos lassos rampaging bulls with his penis?",
">\n\nYeah, he probably lied about all that too",
">\n\nDamn, I never thought anyone on the republican team could do their makeup better than Trump, but I was wrong!",
">\n\nSir Lies a lot",
">\n\nHe didn’t change. He was always a liar. I wouldn’t be shocked if he was a straight up\nPsychopath.",
">\n\nPrevious Jobs Drag Artist…\nRepublicans: i think we can be a good match and we have a job offer for you.",
">\n\nPlease can someone make a visual timeline of this man’s life and lies? It’s so complicated that I can’t understand the full history of when he showed up in politics and the claims he’s made. It’s too convoluted to comprehend. I need bullet points. Or drawrings.",
">\n\nWho is this guy? Like he could be some sleeper agent",
">\n\nso he's clearly either an opportunist, or a legit crazy person... or both",
">\n\nThis story doesn’t even seem real.",
">\n\n“Article I, Section 2, Clause 2: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.”\nHow did he get into congress if you need to be a U.S. citizen for at least 7 years?",
">\n\nHe wanted progressive policies for his own country. He's happy to profit from destroying this one.",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is Glenn Greenwald?",
">\n\nI've never seen him and Kyrsten Sinema in the same room together.\nI'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'",
">\n\nWhich sounds more realistic?\n1) hundreds and hundreds of people are all lying about one person, across continents\n2) one person is lying A BUNCH.",
">\n\nI want to know if he's actually a US citizen, or if just lied about that like everything else.",
">\n\nAre we sure that \"George Santos\" is not just a Sacha Baron Cohen project at this point?",
">\n\nThis is literally full grift mode mask off. There isn't any hard evidence a guy like Dave Rubin switches to the right for money, but we all know it's true.\nThis grift has receipts.",
">\n\nHe goes where the grift is. Right now the maga crowd is so reactionary and blinded by the identity politics of the right that they don't notice their pockets being picked",
">\n\nThe crazy theory of him being actually an actor working for Sasha Baron Cohen sounds less and less crazy every day.",
">\n\nProbably just a grifter who saw where the suckers were at. People like him don't have any real political beliefs.",
">\n\nThe quote that stood out to me is “he wanted to be famous, no matter what.” He got his wish.",
">\n\nSo he’s drag Trump?",
">\n\nMany people are actually left leaning and for policies that benefit many people, all people. Until they move to the US, and are fed “patriotic” adjectives by the GOP. \nI.e. my in laws.",
">\n\nOr he just knew which party would be more receptive to grift",
">\n\nIt’s so nice to see the GOP, the party of \"facts and logic,” standing by a party member known to be so honest and truthful...",
">\n\nRepublicans need to stop endorsing con-men and Yahoos. The Republican Party is looking like some kind of Clown Party.",
">\n\nIt’s like bizarro Kyrsten Sinema… is he a democrat plant for revenge purposes? /s?",
">\n\nWhat if he's trying to infiltrate the enemy and do a double-cross and we all blew his cover?",
">\n\nAll the crazy that Russian money could buy.",
">\n\nYeah, these types of people stand for nothing.\nThey just shift into whatever the environment calls for.",
">\n\nMakes u really wonder what plans he has for any confidential information he may be privy to during his term.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to me how this happens. Like there was no real Republican that was interested in the office so they just went with this guy? Like how does it happen.",
">\n\nThis is a real republican...",
">\n\nIs he the Cousin of Ronnette Desantis from Florida???",
">\n\nThis guy is nuts. When I first saw stories of this dude I thought he looked off af. His look just didn’t fit. Like a skinwalker. And every story, including this one, has only affirmed those instincts more. Uncanny valley in the modern age.",
">\n\nHas Glenn Greenwald gotten on the case yet being an investigative journalist who lives in Brazil???",
">\n\nMan just wanted some free healthcare for life",
">\n\nEver read “Kiss of the Spider Woman?” A flamboyant gay drag queen in South America is joyfully apolitical even as the government is cracking down on people like him. This makes him an easy mark, and in return for little favors the fascists turn him into a double agent working for them instead.",
">\n\nIt’s easy to get elected if you just spew enough hate into the right people.",
">\n\nIt would be so easy to be a right wing grifter",
">\n\nHe probably got introduced to Putin by Glenn Greenwald.",
">\n\nIf this whole thing turns out to be some piece of performance art. I will admit it's impressive.",
">\n\nHe has to be friends with Glen Greenwald",
">\n\nCapitalism consumes those with a weak mind. Makes sense Santos betrayed the left and gave in to the vast wealth the conservative movement offered. Dude was an opportunist, and the GOP gullible rich assholes. Perfect marriage",
">\n\nThey love how the crazies distract the libs so much that they'll keep electing them until it's the GCP.",
">\n\nLauren Boebert was a sugar baby found through a casting website.\nThe whole plan is to make sure that tons of clown candidates break through.\nIt creates the narrative that all government is corrupt and we need a strong fascist to fix things. \"I mean, you don't see the Democrats doing anything to stop Santos or MTG or Boebert...\" they'll argue as they throw Santos out.",
">\n\n\"Crazy\" is more likely to be accepted by the Republican party, the Democrats would have turned him away.",
">\n\n\"this crazy thing\" being your standard political grifter?",
">\n\nThe Big Reveal: He is Andy Kaufman.",
">\n\nNo it's a republicans so desperate to win a seat in any district that even crazy are on the menu.",
">\n\nLike Trump and Musk, too. I guess it takes far less effort to gather and keep idiots as constituents",
">\n\nI feel at this point I need a docuseries about what the hell is going on with this guy.",
">\n\nDuh. He followed the money. So did Trump. And Candice Owens.",
">\n\nMoney is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nOut of the many characteristics he has, his most outstanding feature is his ability to lie. So he turned to the party of liars.",
">\n\nIt’s always the same shit. Some loser tried and failed to fit in with leftists because they had a shallow grasp on progressivism and were more interested with personal gain and were willing to abandon everything they claimed they stood for, all so that they can go grift and get money from conservatives making themselves out to be “one of the good ones”. Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, George santos, Jimmy dore, the list goes on.",
">\n\nWhen they can no longer defend him in the face of the mudslide of lies, they say he's a \"leftist\". Lol omg seriously? He never went anywhere as a Democrat. This idiot is a con artist pure and simple. He got elected Ted as a GOP Rep. Those are the facts.",
">\n\nJust like most of the other GOP they look at their job as entertainment and personal gain. It's all a game to them like going to Vegas.",
">\n\nWhat kind of art do they do?",
">\n\nThe American Dream.",
">\n\nTroll level: 1000",
">\n\nAnd this is the Republican Party in a nutshell. No background checks. Just wants a seat in congress!",
">\n\nThis is just like new Mexican immigrants like Paola Ramos who was right-wing in Mexico yet when they come to the U.S. they are left wing.",
">\n\nI am all for Brazilian drag artists in general, even the mendacious kind, but it's rather shocking that one could become a MAGA congressman so easily. WTF, America.",
">\n\nHe never left drag. He just changed his costume.",
">\n\nThe GOP is the way they are because of money. They have lost sight that they are actually mandated to run and improve the country. That has taken a back seat."
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"He knew conservatives would be the easiest marks. He was right.",
">\n\nIf I pulled a grift on Republican voters, I'd immediately flip to Democrat after winning election.\nI am reasonably confident I could continue to manipulate them even as a Democrat lmao",
">\n\nAh, the Sinema strategy.",
">\n\nNot terribly smart. Sinema might want to make money as a lobbyist after she leaves politics but she has almost no good relations with either the Democrats or GOP. Her grifter tactics are going to backfire hard",
">\n\nWhen you make more money than you can spend in a lifetime, does it matter",
">\n\nGiven her whole \"prada-socialist\" gimmick from a few years ago, I'm going to bet she has a spending problem.",
">\n\nthat article was oddly enthralling thank you",
">\n\nHaha I thought the same thing. Glad you enjoyed it",
">\n\nThe best part of this is watching the lack of integrity of his fellow republicans get exposed as they jump through hoops to keep supporting him.",
">\n\nI had the thought of \"what if that's the point of the long con\" but immediately shot that down because consistency, integrity, and appearances don't matter. Them being caught in a double standard doesn't matter.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is what the GOP is now. It's entirely filled by grifters who find some way to tap into peoples' dissatisfaction with Democrats. It has nothing to do with ideas or ideology or charisma or even anger in some cases. Mtg got in with qanon. Matt gaetz got in by having a rich dad. George Santos got in because it was a good year for Republicans in new york. And trump got in because he ran against Hillary Clinton.\nNobody cares about the results. They probably don't even care about the current trans panic. They stopped caring about the election years ago. And now they don't even care about q. \nThis is the modern republican party. And by the looks of it they overdosed on nihilism",
">\n\nI'm so exhausted living in a world with adult babies.",
">\n\nMuch prefer the diaper lovers, at least they keep to themselves.",
">\n\nHe could smell the money. It's all about the grift. Tomorrow I could start being a right wing grifter and within a year be a millionaire....\nHey, wait a minute. Excuse me...",
">\n\nMan the amount of times I have thought \"ya know if it weren't for this pesky conscience, I could be rich right now, just gotta tell the sheep what they want to hear and they will throw their money at you.\"\nBut I would feel bad about fleecing people out of their money, so I don't. Morals always getting in the way of making money...",
">\n\nIt's a problem. I couldn't live with myself.",
">\n\nRight?\nIve been tempted to start a megachurch so many times, but I would feel so horrible lying to those people to extract their money from them.",
">\n\nMaybe starting a new religion isn’t a bad thing. All religions are more like clustered philosophies and sets of rules on how to live a good life; the mythology and associated deities are secondary to that purpose\nIt wouldn’t be hard to make a new religion more ethical than Mormonism at least",
">\n\nI've had that thought, call it the Church of Autotheism, and base it around the idea we are all our own gods, in that we are responsible for our own actions, and the consequences of those actions. We are gods because we change the world every time we interact it with, no matter how minor that interaction is or how subtle the change caused is.\nThe hope being that if you make people aware of their actions and the consequences that they would choose to be good. Which is probably wishful thinking at best.",
">\n\nIt would fail as a religion\n\n\nEvery religion advocates for consequentialism. Every single one.\n\n\nThe purpose of Gods whether they be Allah, Buddha, Vishnu, Ahura Mazda, The Jade Emperor, etc. is to remind people that human beings are not Gods; that human beings are ultimately falliable and that there is a reason mankind is in a fallen state, whether it be sin, haram, desire, karma, etc. Religion doesn’t work without a direct figure of worship for this reason",
">\n\nYea I know. It doesn't come with that fear of divine or cosmic retribution that hooks people.\nCan't scare people if you whole thing is \"everything is chaos, nothing means anything, so why not try being nice to each other to make things more pleasant?\" except dressed up in theological language.",
">\n\nIsnt he wanted for some crimes back in brazil?",
">\n\nBeing an extreme right wing operative is much more profitable.",
">\n\nEspecially if you're a minority. They'll build you the biggest, most expensive pedestal you've ever seen so they can show the world \"See? We can't possibly be oppressors! Here is someone we want to oppress that agrees with us!“\nAnd when you've finally helped them accomplish their goals, you'll have the honor of being second against the wall.\nAnyway, what this guy claimed years ago and what this guy claims today simply doesn't matter. His word is worthless and trying to sort the truth from the lies is a fools errand. \nHe may not even know the answer himself.",
">\n\nRemember that even in nazi germany there were Jews agreeing, supporting, and collaborating with Hitler. Only to end up in concentration camps in the end.",
">\n\nSame reason Trump switched.\nConservatives are ripe for the taking and have zero critical thinking skills.",
">\n\nSame reason for the difference in advertisements you see in conservative media. They will buy anything. All sorts of random pills, gold scams, objective trash as seen on TV stuff, scam finance stuff, etc, etc. All of this on prime time cable. You don't see them on regular media because market research is telling advertisers that conservatives are the stupidest demographic.",
">\n\nPart of me just wants to create a non profit and milk these idiots dry and then just keep 95% of the donations for running the non profit…\nEasy money.",
">\n\n\"Ted Nugent's Fund For Repossessing Mexicans' food? Sign me the fuck up\"\nActually it's me and my bros using their money to buy all the tacos we can eat...",
">\n\nI'm so ready for this idiot to be out of the news. Can he just resign in disgrace already?",
">\n\nLol it's cute if you think politicians still resign in this day",
">\n\nDemocrats resign in disgrace. \nRepublicans just keep on doubling down to the cheers of their voters.",
">\n\nDemocrats resign over fucking nothing. \nFucking nothing makes a Republican resign.",
">\n\nI'm honestly worried Biden might resign over these documents found in his residence...",
">\n\nNot worried. The presidents daily schedule is top secret. But eventually outdated and useless info. He probably kept the schedules with his notes and didn’t think it was really an issue to people with common sense. Time will tell. Except for on Fox News.",
">\n\nSeems like he had the same \"I can make so much money grifting the idiots on the right\" idea that I've had many times.\nOnly difference is that he's actually twisted enough to go out and do it. I say I'll do it quite often, but I'm not shitty enough to go through with it.",
">\n\nI have had this thought so many times as a bilingual x missionary kid. If we ran together we could make a killing! :P",
">\n\nI was a Bible Thumper, went to Christian school.. Oh man I could tute the tune on the horn they play. Like a fucking fiddle it would be so easy.",
">\n\nChristian college here bud, join the ticket.",
">\n\nChristian high school, christian college, white with blond hair and parents are rich, and born and raised in the south. It would be sooo easy.",
">\n\nYou are invited too bud, we need a vet and we're fuckin set.",
">\n\nHell ya! Let’s put this religious trauma to use",
">\n\nI'm an old ass left coast librul and I welcome this chaos magic.",
">\n\nFantastic work, did you train a model with every George Santos picture you could find?",
">\n\nTrained w about 30 pics.",
">\n\nI'm impressed",
">\n\nCriminals recognize criminals. I’m convinced any person running with an R next to their name at this point is strictly an opportunistic grifter with zero interest in governing",
">\n\nWas this comment written in the late 1980's. Ronald Reagan...",
">\n\nThe precise moment productivity and wages set off on their separate journeys and never spoke again.",
">\n\nAww come on that money gonna trickle down any year now...",
">\n\nProof that anyone that can lie can be an elected republican",
">\n\nDude, it’s getting sad at this point.\nIt’s blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention, and I hate to say it because again it makes me sad, but conservatives are rubes. These people have progressively seen how gullible they are and now there’s a feeding frenzy. \nThey smelled blood in the water when they saw Trump’s popularity rose prior to the 2016 election and they haven’t stopped since.",
">\n\n\"If that idiot can grift so can I\"",
">\n\nImagine if we took money out of politics and politicians were only working for the betterment of the people. We wouldn't have nearly as many of these stories where a conservative person is looking down on or doing something they say they're against.\nShit, if our politicians weren't suckling the teat of the rich we would likely have healthcare, people would be fed, and this manufactured inflation that's making us all poorer would have been nipped I'm the bud back when they first thought they could pull one over on the working class. \nInstead, we just get the stick.",
">\n\nTake the excess campaign dollars out of it. Don’t allow ANY money to be donated. Let every candidate start with the same dollar amount, maybe 5-10 million raised from donations and use it for expenses as they tour across the country, meeting the voters. Once the campaign money is gone, it’s gone. A bipartisan site online could accept the donations for any candidate and keep a running total of money received. Have TV debates, with the understanding that anyone breaking the rules will be immediately muted, and asked to leave. Have town hall meetings. Get politics back to the PEOPLE, to grassroots campaigns that don’t spend $100 million on one candidate. It levels the playing field for anyone to run that can raise $10 million through grassroots efforts. No politician should be beholden to huge campaign contributors. Do away with lobbying! Our country can be run better by a humanitarian,and a great administration of extremely qualified individuals. Military, Finance, Social issues, Education, Intelligence, Veterans issues, etc. we have to change the way the US is run, including elections. The richest people in the country are BUYING politicians…something the majority of the country can’t compete in, and don’t want to compete in. It would be wonderful to start voting in people based on their intelligence, their character, and their history and background. People who were overachievers in high school, college, and work. Vetting for every candidate, and any negative findings that are related to morals is disqualifying. Whoever is running this country need to be above reproach. Maybe Hakeem Jeffries, who has a great track record and is younger and more enthusiastic that anyone in the Republican Party He’s done so much for his constituents, that it’s obvious he’s a good man , and very intelligent",
">\n\nI agree with everything you said except the Hakeem Jeffries part. He takes tons of campaign bribes from multiple industries. There are democrats in the house of representatives with much cleaner records than him.",
">\n\nSantos is whoever he needs to be to pull a scam.",
">\n\nHe didn't didn't run on a whim. Someone \"encouraged\" him. Trace the origin of his money.",
">\n\nTrump has been a registered Democrat, Reformer & Republican.\nGrifters go where the money is at.",
">\n\nbeing a republican politician is basically an extremely immoral form of drag when you think about it.",
">\n\nI am now convinced that he got all of his money from the Republican party. I'm convinced that they knew he was lying all along, and they did whatever they could to get him elected. Why? Because he provides a really good distraction. While we're all watching the George Santos show, the Republicans are quietly destroying democracy.",
">\n\nHe knew it would be easy to fool a bunch of conservatives, and unfortunately he was right. Bunch of easy marks.",
">\n\nWhenever I run across a gay Republican (and they are definitely out there) I immediately assume they’re a sociopath.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian, who's perpetually befuddled by American politics, I'm amazed that someone with that gay of a face is flashing white power symbols.",
">\n\nIs George even Tony’s real name?",
">\n\nHe didn't just pop up out of nowhere and win a race all on his own. Someone chose him to be the front-man, organized, and paid for his campaign. Be interesting to find out who that was.",
">\n\nThis dude is a distraction. I’m not super into politics but I have a feeling that someone is doing some really shady shit and it being overlooked for this low hanging piece of shit.",
">\n\nIs it just me or are right wingers their own unique brand of especially gullible marks? I mean, scams don't have a political leaning but there's a lot of ways to make money selling explicitly right wing nonsense.",
">\n\nSo basically, New York elected Borat to Congress.",
">\n\nRepublicans elected him to congress",
">\n\nNo not at all, he won the Long Island district that almost always votes democrat. But it’s got a large Jewish population so he lied about being Jewish.",
">\n\nLong Islanders continue to be the stupidest fucking people",
">\n\nI'm still grappling with the fact that people care more about when he dressed up in costume as a different gender, rather than the extensive lies about his credentials.",
">\n\nI don't think \"they\" do. I.e. I think most normal people realize all that other shit is waaay worse. But everyone is wondering what the deal-breaker will be for the GOP, and you'd think that'd be proof he was a drag queen, hence the attention that's getting.\nIOW it's just evidence of how low our expectations are of the Republicans.",
">\n\nIf only I was shameless and doesn't care how much people will hate me, I definitely would run for a republican office.",
">\n\nIf you’re a conman trying to get money from political campaigns conservatives are an easy mark.",
">\n\nThere's a reason people right-wing grift. Easy money. It's also why the left-wing grift isn't a thing.",
">\n\nI’m noticing a trend with all these right wing psychos, there’s a whole lot of South Americans and Cubans in their ranks.",
">\n\nI knew the water circled the drain differently when crossing the equator, but this is ridiculous.",
">\n\nThis thread doesn't deserve your comment.",
">\n\nHe saw how gullible the Right is and how to exploit them for $",
">\n\nHe's not right or left. He's a con man. And the smart voters in NY actually voted him into office. Maybe do some research before you vote and don't vote along party lines.",
">\n\nIt’s just the last part, and they won’t.",
">\n\nMaybe he is a Trojan horse",
">\n\nOr a Trojan rep",
">\n\nHe did what Trump did, realized who the stupid people were and joined their side.",
">\n\nIs this dude getting cawthorned? Do Republicans make them go and commit kompromat before they support them?",
">\n\nThis will be the thing that really angers the Right....",
">\n\nGeorge Santo is a Lizard Person e.g. a Chameleon changing to his current environment in order to survive and prosper.",
">\n\nSome people flip flop between political extremes. On a rare occation it means they have an open mind. More often than not, they are just fools, though.",
">\n\nIt is so tragic that his family was in the holocaust and his mother died at the towers on 911",
">\n\nPure sociopath wil say anything to anyone",
">\n\nYou mean turn into a Russian agent for money and power beyond his imagination to hurt a country he didn't give a flying rat's ass about? He's not even a traitor - he's just working for Papa Putin to fuck the Americans.",
">\n\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent",
">\n\nOpportunistic Brazilian ConArtist",
">\n\nThis just goes to show why vetting processes need to happen before someone is elected",
">\n\nHe's one of those, like Trump, that is whatever is most convenient at that moment. Not really anything at all when you cut down to the deepest layer. \nTrump and Hillary were such friends that he invited her to his wedding. Years later, he's this alt-right champion. It's ridiculous and barely covers the fact that he will play any side that benefits him. Just like this boy Santos. Both sociopathic liars with fragile egos and shaky claims to any thing remotely verifiable as truth.",
">\n\nUndiagnosed personality disorders are all around us.",
">\n\nSays a lot about George Santos that I believe a random Drag Artist in Brazil over the elected politician George Santos \nCaveat, Not that I wouldnt believe something a person says (drag artist or not), but if random people came out on the internet and said, “Trump randomly said to me one time he loves Democrat policies and was a huge Obama fan” I’d be like, “Okay, random person, Trumps a shitty person but I doubt that.” George Santos is such a fucking liar I’m like, “She probably telling the truth”",
">\n\nEvery day this looks more like a borat movie in real life.",
">\n\nIF America had rejected tRump, this pathological liar, wouldn't be here now.",
">\n\nI don't know about everyone else but I'm starting to think that this guy might not be the most trustworthy",
">\n\nWho is this person? He fooled so many.",
">\n\nHe saw a reality tv star play a role upon a mountain of lies and now he thinks he can too.",
">\n\nMaybe the left is missing the message here. Run as republican, be outraged by all the silly shit that Ra yell at, but then vote leftwing.\nPretend to be a right-wing nut job, but vote left",
">\n\nBecause this is how you get elected and get a fuckton of money, obviously. It's easy to do. Look at Musk and Trump - also previously non-nationalists (but always grifters) capitalizing on the rightzis' lunacy and hysteria. 'Pay me if you want to survive the assault on white identity and religion' is a ~~powerful~~ profitable message.",
">\n\nR/conservative",
">\n\nCon-men have no political philosophies, just scams.",
">\n\nThese fucks just want fame. They don’t care which side they’re on, just as long as they see themselves in the paper, on the news and internet. Narcissists.",
">\n\nHe wasn’t a “Leftist” but he certainly has all the familiar traits of a sociopathic Conservative. Georgieboi will say and do anything to get what he wants. It is your stereotypical malignant Narcissist.",
">\n\nSleeper agent?",
">\n\nThe reason for “this crazy thing” is called money. He was obviously bought by some group to run as a gay republican to get votes in a contested district, and it worked. All efforts should be put in it tracking down who paid him to do this and creating strong ethical standards for elected officials",
">\n\nI can guarantee you he didn't just recently turn crazy",
">\n\nIf the song was about Santos, it basically would have been I met a drag queen, she was horrible, I went somewhere else.",
">\n\nI'm gonna channel my inner Obi Wan and ask who's more foolish, the fool, or the fool who votes for him?",
">\n\nThis is how politics works in the US. Hasan and his uncle Cenk talk about this all the time. Going the right wing route is a way more profitable route. For a lot of them its just a grift. The marks/voters are an extremely manipulable bunch, and the funders (billionaires/corporations) have big pockets",
">\n\nHonestly, I think this guy is awesome. Taking the republican clown archetype to the absolute extreme and exposing just how corrupt and ridiculous they are as they fumble to continue supporting him.",
">\n\nDiamond and Silk were rabid left wingers until they realized the grift opportunities were much better on the other side.",
">\n\n🎶🎶 Money money money, must be funny, in a rich man's world. 🎶🎶🎶🎶",
">\n\nThe USA- where literally anyone can come and become a right wing biggot.",
">\n\nStick that man's brain in a pigeon and it will fly backwards...",
">\n\nHe is nothing but an opportunist.",
">\n\nWe really need to see this guy’s birth certificate.",
">\n\nThe oppo researchers in the NY Democratic Party should be sacked. Honestly. How the hell did this guy get through a whole campaign without this coming out?",
">\n\nIt did come out. And local press covered it. It’s just that nobody gave a shit…",
">\n\nCrazy thing = scam artist and probable Russian plant",
">\n\nMy guess is he’s always been a pathological liar and doesn’t have any convictions or principles",
">\n\nHe never supported anything except his own enrichment. The guy is a psycho and always has been.",
">\n\nIs it that odd? I do believe a number of current conservatives both in the media and in politics were at one point pretty liberal, but when they found out they couldn't make money off it, they went to the right.",
">\n\nGrift is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nI don't think he actually believes his own shit, but I do wonder if he is being paid off by a foreign power to help destabilize the US",
">\n\nBasically one-upping Kyrsten Sinema",
">\n\nWhy is he not being recalled by his district ?",
">\n\nWhose payroll is he on?",
">\n\nI just wish this article was about Matt Gaetz",
">\n\nSimilar to people like Trump or Candice Owens. These people have no ideology just the grift path of least resistance.",
">\n\nAll these formerly hidden fun facts about ol' George here are sooo interesting. He's just a never-ending fount of delightful surprises!\nP.S. Did you know that George Santos lassos rampaging bulls with his penis?",
">\n\nYeah, he probably lied about all that too",
">\n\nDamn, I never thought anyone on the republican team could do their makeup better than Trump, but I was wrong!",
">\n\nSir Lies a lot",
">\n\nHe didn’t change. He was always a liar. I wouldn’t be shocked if he was a straight up\nPsychopath.",
">\n\nPrevious Jobs Drag Artist…\nRepublicans: i think we can be a good match and we have a job offer for you.",
">\n\nPlease can someone make a visual timeline of this man’s life and lies? It’s so complicated that I can’t understand the full history of when he showed up in politics and the claims he’s made. It’s too convoluted to comprehend. I need bullet points. Or drawrings.",
">\n\nWho is this guy? Like he could be some sleeper agent",
">\n\nso he's clearly either an opportunist, or a legit crazy person... or both",
">\n\nThis story doesn’t even seem real.",
">\n\n“Article I, Section 2, Clause 2: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.”\nHow did he get into congress if you need to be a U.S. citizen for at least 7 years?",
">\n\nHe wanted progressive policies for his own country. He's happy to profit from destroying this one.",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is Glenn Greenwald?",
">\n\nI've never seen him and Kyrsten Sinema in the same room together.\nI'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'",
">\n\nWhich sounds more realistic?\n1) hundreds and hundreds of people are all lying about one person, across continents\n2) one person is lying A BUNCH.",
">\n\nI want to know if he's actually a US citizen, or if just lied about that like everything else.",
">\n\nAre we sure that \"George Santos\" is not just a Sacha Baron Cohen project at this point?",
">\n\nThis is literally full grift mode mask off. There isn't any hard evidence a guy like Dave Rubin switches to the right for money, but we all know it's true.\nThis grift has receipts.",
">\n\nHe goes where the grift is. Right now the maga crowd is so reactionary and blinded by the identity politics of the right that they don't notice their pockets being picked",
">\n\nThe crazy theory of him being actually an actor working for Sasha Baron Cohen sounds less and less crazy every day.",
">\n\nProbably just a grifter who saw where the suckers were at. People like him don't have any real political beliefs.",
">\n\nThe quote that stood out to me is “he wanted to be famous, no matter what.” He got his wish.",
">\n\nSo he’s drag Trump?",
">\n\nMany people are actually left leaning and for policies that benefit many people, all people. Until they move to the US, and are fed “patriotic” adjectives by the GOP. \nI.e. my in laws.",
">\n\nOr he just knew which party would be more receptive to grift",
">\n\nIt’s so nice to see the GOP, the party of \"facts and logic,” standing by a party member known to be so honest and truthful...",
">\n\nRepublicans need to stop endorsing con-men and Yahoos. The Republican Party is looking like some kind of Clown Party.",
">\n\nIt’s like bizarro Kyrsten Sinema… is he a democrat plant for revenge purposes? /s?",
">\n\nWhat if he's trying to infiltrate the enemy and do a double-cross and we all blew his cover?",
">\n\nAll the crazy that Russian money could buy.",
">\n\nYeah, these types of people stand for nothing.\nThey just shift into whatever the environment calls for.",
">\n\nMakes u really wonder what plans he has for any confidential information he may be privy to during his term.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to me how this happens. Like there was no real Republican that was interested in the office so they just went with this guy? Like how does it happen.",
">\n\nThis is a real republican...",
">\n\nIs he the Cousin of Ronnette Desantis from Florida???",
">\n\nThis guy is nuts. When I first saw stories of this dude I thought he looked off af. His look just didn’t fit. Like a skinwalker. And every story, including this one, has only affirmed those instincts more. Uncanny valley in the modern age.",
">\n\nHas Glenn Greenwald gotten on the case yet being an investigative journalist who lives in Brazil???",
">\n\nMan just wanted some free healthcare for life",
">\n\nEver read “Kiss of the Spider Woman?” A flamboyant gay drag queen in South America is joyfully apolitical even as the government is cracking down on people like him. This makes him an easy mark, and in return for little favors the fascists turn him into a double agent working for them instead.",
">\n\nIt’s easy to get elected if you just spew enough hate into the right people.",
">\n\nIt would be so easy to be a right wing grifter",
">\n\nHe probably got introduced to Putin by Glenn Greenwald.",
">\n\nIf this whole thing turns out to be some piece of performance art. I will admit it's impressive.",
">\n\nHe has to be friends with Glen Greenwald",
">\n\nCapitalism consumes those with a weak mind. Makes sense Santos betrayed the left and gave in to the vast wealth the conservative movement offered. Dude was an opportunist, and the GOP gullible rich assholes. Perfect marriage",
">\n\nThey love how the crazies distract the libs so much that they'll keep electing them until it's the GCP.",
">\n\nLauren Boebert was a sugar baby found through a casting website.\nThe whole plan is to make sure that tons of clown candidates break through.\nIt creates the narrative that all government is corrupt and we need a strong fascist to fix things. \"I mean, you don't see the Democrats doing anything to stop Santos or MTG or Boebert...\" they'll argue as they throw Santos out.",
">\n\n\"Crazy\" is more likely to be accepted by the Republican party, the Democrats would have turned him away.",
">\n\n\"this crazy thing\" being your standard political grifter?",
">\n\nThe Big Reveal: He is Andy Kaufman.",
">\n\nNo it's a republicans so desperate to win a seat in any district that even crazy are on the menu.",
">\n\nLike Trump and Musk, too. I guess it takes far less effort to gather and keep idiots as constituents",
">\n\nI feel at this point I need a docuseries about what the hell is going on with this guy.",
">\n\nDuh. He followed the money. So did Trump. And Candice Owens.",
">\n\nMoney is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nOut of the many characteristics he has, his most outstanding feature is his ability to lie. So he turned to the party of liars.",
">\n\nIt’s always the same shit. Some loser tried and failed to fit in with leftists because they had a shallow grasp on progressivism and were more interested with personal gain and were willing to abandon everything they claimed they stood for, all so that they can go grift and get money from conservatives making themselves out to be “one of the good ones”. Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, George santos, Jimmy dore, the list goes on.",
">\n\nWhen they can no longer defend him in the face of the mudslide of lies, they say he's a \"leftist\". Lol omg seriously? He never went anywhere as a Democrat. This idiot is a con artist pure and simple. He got elected Ted as a GOP Rep. Those are the facts.",
">\n\nJust like most of the other GOP they look at their job as entertainment and personal gain. It's all a game to them like going to Vegas.",
">\n\nWhat kind of art do they do?",
">\n\nThe American Dream.",
">\n\nTroll level: 1000",
">\n\nAnd this is the Republican Party in a nutshell. No background checks. Just wants a seat in congress!",
">\n\nThis is just like new Mexican immigrants like Paola Ramos who was right-wing in Mexico yet when they come to the U.S. they are left wing.",
">\n\nI am all for Brazilian drag artists in general, even the mendacious kind, but it's rather shocking that one could become a MAGA congressman so easily. WTF, America.",
">\n\nHe never left drag. He just changed his costume.",
">\n\nThe GOP is the way they are because of money. They have lost sight that they are actually mandated to run and improve the country. That has taken a back seat.",
">\n\nThis is what happens when there are no consequences for lying politicians"
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This man saw how easy it is to get republicans to vote for you and grifted to victory Lolol
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"He knew conservatives would be the easiest marks. He was right.",
">\n\nIf I pulled a grift on Republican voters, I'd immediately flip to Democrat after winning election.\nI am reasonably confident I could continue to manipulate them even as a Democrat lmao",
">\n\nAh, the Sinema strategy.",
">\n\nNot terribly smart. Sinema might want to make money as a lobbyist after she leaves politics but she has almost no good relations with either the Democrats or GOP. Her grifter tactics are going to backfire hard",
">\n\nWhen you make more money than you can spend in a lifetime, does it matter",
">\n\nGiven her whole \"prada-socialist\" gimmick from a few years ago, I'm going to bet she has a spending problem.",
">\n\nthat article was oddly enthralling thank you",
">\n\nHaha I thought the same thing. Glad you enjoyed it",
">\n\nThe best part of this is watching the lack of integrity of his fellow republicans get exposed as they jump through hoops to keep supporting him.",
">\n\nI had the thought of \"what if that's the point of the long con\" but immediately shot that down because consistency, integrity, and appearances don't matter. Them being caught in a double standard doesn't matter.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is what the GOP is now. It's entirely filled by grifters who find some way to tap into peoples' dissatisfaction with Democrats. It has nothing to do with ideas or ideology or charisma or even anger in some cases. Mtg got in with qanon. Matt gaetz got in by having a rich dad. George Santos got in because it was a good year for Republicans in new york. And trump got in because he ran against Hillary Clinton.\nNobody cares about the results. They probably don't even care about the current trans panic. They stopped caring about the election years ago. And now they don't even care about q. \nThis is the modern republican party. And by the looks of it they overdosed on nihilism",
">\n\nI'm so exhausted living in a world with adult babies.",
">\n\nMuch prefer the diaper lovers, at least they keep to themselves.",
">\n\nHe could smell the money. It's all about the grift. Tomorrow I could start being a right wing grifter and within a year be a millionaire....\nHey, wait a minute. Excuse me...",
">\n\nMan the amount of times I have thought \"ya know if it weren't for this pesky conscience, I could be rich right now, just gotta tell the sheep what they want to hear and they will throw their money at you.\"\nBut I would feel bad about fleecing people out of their money, so I don't. Morals always getting in the way of making money...",
">\n\nIt's a problem. I couldn't live with myself.",
">\n\nRight?\nIve been tempted to start a megachurch so many times, but I would feel so horrible lying to those people to extract their money from them.",
">\n\nMaybe starting a new religion isn’t a bad thing. All religions are more like clustered philosophies and sets of rules on how to live a good life; the mythology and associated deities are secondary to that purpose\nIt wouldn’t be hard to make a new religion more ethical than Mormonism at least",
">\n\nI've had that thought, call it the Church of Autotheism, and base it around the idea we are all our own gods, in that we are responsible for our own actions, and the consequences of those actions. We are gods because we change the world every time we interact it with, no matter how minor that interaction is or how subtle the change caused is.\nThe hope being that if you make people aware of their actions and the consequences that they would choose to be good. Which is probably wishful thinking at best.",
">\n\nIt would fail as a religion\n\n\nEvery religion advocates for consequentialism. Every single one.\n\n\nThe purpose of Gods whether they be Allah, Buddha, Vishnu, Ahura Mazda, The Jade Emperor, etc. is to remind people that human beings are not Gods; that human beings are ultimately falliable and that there is a reason mankind is in a fallen state, whether it be sin, haram, desire, karma, etc. Religion doesn’t work without a direct figure of worship for this reason",
">\n\nYea I know. It doesn't come with that fear of divine or cosmic retribution that hooks people.\nCan't scare people if you whole thing is \"everything is chaos, nothing means anything, so why not try being nice to each other to make things more pleasant?\" except dressed up in theological language.",
">\n\nIsnt he wanted for some crimes back in brazil?",
">\n\nBeing an extreme right wing operative is much more profitable.",
">\n\nEspecially if you're a minority. They'll build you the biggest, most expensive pedestal you've ever seen so they can show the world \"See? We can't possibly be oppressors! Here is someone we want to oppress that agrees with us!“\nAnd when you've finally helped them accomplish their goals, you'll have the honor of being second against the wall.\nAnyway, what this guy claimed years ago and what this guy claims today simply doesn't matter. His word is worthless and trying to sort the truth from the lies is a fools errand. \nHe may not even know the answer himself.",
">\n\nRemember that even in nazi germany there were Jews agreeing, supporting, and collaborating with Hitler. Only to end up in concentration camps in the end.",
">\n\nSame reason Trump switched.\nConservatives are ripe for the taking and have zero critical thinking skills.",
">\n\nSame reason for the difference in advertisements you see in conservative media. They will buy anything. All sorts of random pills, gold scams, objective trash as seen on TV stuff, scam finance stuff, etc, etc. All of this on prime time cable. You don't see them on regular media because market research is telling advertisers that conservatives are the stupidest demographic.",
">\n\nPart of me just wants to create a non profit and milk these idiots dry and then just keep 95% of the donations for running the non profit…\nEasy money.",
">\n\n\"Ted Nugent's Fund For Repossessing Mexicans' food? Sign me the fuck up\"\nActually it's me and my bros using their money to buy all the tacos we can eat...",
">\n\nI'm so ready for this idiot to be out of the news. Can he just resign in disgrace already?",
">\n\nLol it's cute if you think politicians still resign in this day",
">\n\nDemocrats resign in disgrace. \nRepublicans just keep on doubling down to the cheers of their voters.",
">\n\nDemocrats resign over fucking nothing. \nFucking nothing makes a Republican resign.",
">\n\nI'm honestly worried Biden might resign over these documents found in his residence...",
">\n\nNot worried. The presidents daily schedule is top secret. But eventually outdated and useless info. He probably kept the schedules with his notes and didn’t think it was really an issue to people with common sense. Time will tell. Except for on Fox News.",
">\n\nSeems like he had the same \"I can make so much money grifting the idiots on the right\" idea that I've had many times.\nOnly difference is that he's actually twisted enough to go out and do it. I say I'll do it quite often, but I'm not shitty enough to go through with it.",
">\n\nI have had this thought so many times as a bilingual x missionary kid. If we ran together we could make a killing! :P",
">\n\nI was a Bible Thumper, went to Christian school.. Oh man I could tute the tune on the horn they play. Like a fucking fiddle it would be so easy.",
">\n\nChristian college here bud, join the ticket.",
">\n\nChristian high school, christian college, white with blond hair and parents are rich, and born and raised in the south. It would be sooo easy.",
">\n\nYou are invited too bud, we need a vet and we're fuckin set.",
">\n\nHell ya! Let’s put this religious trauma to use",
">\n\nI'm an old ass left coast librul and I welcome this chaos magic.",
">\n\nFantastic work, did you train a model with every George Santos picture you could find?",
">\n\nTrained w about 30 pics.",
">\n\nI'm impressed",
">\n\nCriminals recognize criminals. I’m convinced any person running with an R next to their name at this point is strictly an opportunistic grifter with zero interest in governing",
">\n\nWas this comment written in the late 1980's. Ronald Reagan...",
">\n\nThe precise moment productivity and wages set off on their separate journeys and never spoke again.",
">\n\nAww come on that money gonna trickle down any year now...",
">\n\nProof that anyone that can lie can be an elected republican",
">\n\nDude, it’s getting sad at this point.\nIt’s blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention, and I hate to say it because again it makes me sad, but conservatives are rubes. These people have progressively seen how gullible they are and now there’s a feeding frenzy. \nThey smelled blood in the water when they saw Trump’s popularity rose prior to the 2016 election and they haven’t stopped since.",
">\n\n\"If that idiot can grift so can I\"",
">\n\nImagine if we took money out of politics and politicians were only working for the betterment of the people. We wouldn't have nearly as many of these stories where a conservative person is looking down on or doing something they say they're against.\nShit, if our politicians weren't suckling the teat of the rich we would likely have healthcare, people would be fed, and this manufactured inflation that's making us all poorer would have been nipped I'm the bud back when they first thought they could pull one over on the working class. \nInstead, we just get the stick.",
">\n\nTake the excess campaign dollars out of it. Don’t allow ANY money to be donated. Let every candidate start with the same dollar amount, maybe 5-10 million raised from donations and use it for expenses as they tour across the country, meeting the voters. Once the campaign money is gone, it’s gone. A bipartisan site online could accept the donations for any candidate and keep a running total of money received. Have TV debates, with the understanding that anyone breaking the rules will be immediately muted, and asked to leave. Have town hall meetings. Get politics back to the PEOPLE, to grassroots campaigns that don’t spend $100 million on one candidate. It levels the playing field for anyone to run that can raise $10 million through grassroots efforts. No politician should be beholden to huge campaign contributors. Do away with lobbying! Our country can be run better by a humanitarian,and a great administration of extremely qualified individuals. Military, Finance, Social issues, Education, Intelligence, Veterans issues, etc. we have to change the way the US is run, including elections. The richest people in the country are BUYING politicians…something the majority of the country can’t compete in, and don’t want to compete in. It would be wonderful to start voting in people based on their intelligence, their character, and their history and background. People who were overachievers in high school, college, and work. Vetting for every candidate, and any negative findings that are related to morals is disqualifying. Whoever is running this country need to be above reproach. Maybe Hakeem Jeffries, who has a great track record and is younger and more enthusiastic that anyone in the Republican Party He’s done so much for his constituents, that it’s obvious he’s a good man , and very intelligent",
">\n\nI agree with everything you said except the Hakeem Jeffries part. He takes tons of campaign bribes from multiple industries. There are democrats in the house of representatives with much cleaner records than him.",
">\n\nSantos is whoever he needs to be to pull a scam.",
">\n\nHe didn't didn't run on a whim. Someone \"encouraged\" him. Trace the origin of his money.",
">\n\nTrump has been a registered Democrat, Reformer & Republican.\nGrifters go where the money is at.",
">\n\nbeing a republican politician is basically an extremely immoral form of drag when you think about it.",
">\n\nI am now convinced that he got all of his money from the Republican party. I'm convinced that they knew he was lying all along, and they did whatever they could to get him elected. Why? Because he provides a really good distraction. While we're all watching the George Santos show, the Republicans are quietly destroying democracy.",
">\n\nHe knew it would be easy to fool a bunch of conservatives, and unfortunately he was right. Bunch of easy marks.",
">\n\nWhenever I run across a gay Republican (and they are definitely out there) I immediately assume they’re a sociopath.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian, who's perpetually befuddled by American politics, I'm amazed that someone with that gay of a face is flashing white power symbols.",
">\n\nIs George even Tony’s real name?",
">\n\nHe didn't just pop up out of nowhere and win a race all on his own. Someone chose him to be the front-man, organized, and paid for his campaign. Be interesting to find out who that was.",
">\n\nThis dude is a distraction. I’m not super into politics but I have a feeling that someone is doing some really shady shit and it being overlooked for this low hanging piece of shit.",
">\n\nIs it just me or are right wingers their own unique brand of especially gullible marks? I mean, scams don't have a political leaning but there's a lot of ways to make money selling explicitly right wing nonsense.",
">\n\nSo basically, New York elected Borat to Congress.",
">\n\nRepublicans elected him to congress",
">\n\nNo not at all, he won the Long Island district that almost always votes democrat. But it’s got a large Jewish population so he lied about being Jewish.",
">\n\nLong Islanders continue to be the stupidest fucking people",
">\n\nI'm still grappling with the fact that people care more about when he dressed up in costume as a different gender, rather than the extensive lies about his credentials.",
">\n\nI don't think \"they\" do. I.e. I think most normal people realize all that other shit is waaay worse. But everyone is wondering what the deal-breaker will be for the GOP, and you'd think that'd be proof he was a drag queen, hence the attention that's getting.\nIOW it's just evidence of how low our expectations are of the Republicans.",
">\n\nIf only I was shameless and doesn't care how much people will hate me, I definitely would run for a republican office.",
">\n\nIf you’re a conman trying to get money from political campaigns conservatives are an easy mark.",
">\n\nThere's a reason people right-wing grift. Easy money. It's also why the left-wing grift isn't a thing.",
">\n\nI’m noticing a trend with all these right wing psychos, there’s a whole lot of South Americans and Cubans in their ranks.",
">\n\nI knew the water circled the drain differently when crossing the equator, but this is ridiculous.",
">\n\nThis thread doesn't deserve your comment.",
">\n\nHe saw how gullible the Right is and how to exploit them for $",
">\n\nHe's not right or left. He's a con man. And the smart voters in NY actually voted him into office. Maybe do some research before you vote and don't vote along party lines.",
">\n\nIt’s just the last part, and they won’t.",
">\n\nMaybe he is a Trojan horse",
">\n\nOr a Trojan rep",
">\n\nHe did what Trump did, realized who the stupid people were and joined their side.",
">\n\nIs this dude getting cawthorned? Do Republicans make them go and commit kompromat before they support them?",
">\n\nThis will be the thing that really angers the Right....",
">\n\nGeorge Santo is a Lizard Person e.g. a Chameleon changing to his current environment in order to survive and prosper.",
">\n\nSome people flip flop between political extremes. On a rare occation it means they have an open mind. More often than not, they are just fools, though.",
">\n\nIt is so tragic that his family was in the holocaust and his mother died at the towers on 911",
">\n\nPure sociopath wil say anything to anyone",
">\n\nYou mean turn into a Russian agent for money and power beyond his imagination to hurt a country he didn't give a flying rat's ass about? He's not even a traitor - he's just working for Papa Putin to fuck the Americans.",
">\n\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent",
">\n\nOpportunistic Brazilian ConArtist",
">\n\nThis just goes to show why vetting processes need to happen before someone is elected",
">\n\nHe's one of those, like Trump, that is whatever is most convenient at that moment. Not really anything at all when you cut down to the deepest layer. \nTrump and Hillary were such friends that he invited her to his wedding. Years later, he's this alt-right champion. It's ridiculous and barely covers the fact that he will play any side that benefits him. Just like this boy Santos. Both sociopathic liars with fragile egos and shaky claims to any thing remotely verifiable as truth.",
">\n\nUndiagnosed personality disorders are all around us.",
">\n\nSays a lot about George Santos that I believe a random Drag Artist in Brazil over the elected politician George Santos \nCaveat, Not that I wouldnt believe something a person says (drag artist or not), but if random people came out on the internet and said, “Trump randomly said to me one time he loves Democrat policies and was a huge Obama fan” I’d be like, “Okay, random person, Trumps a shitty person but I doubt that.” George Santos is such a fucking liar I’m like, “She probably telling the truth”",
">\n\nEvery day this looks more like a borat movie in real life.",
">\n\nIF America had rejected tRump, this pathological liar, wouldn't be here now.",
">\n\nI don't know about everyone else but I'm starting to think that this guy might not be the most trustworthy",
">\n\nWho is this person? He fooled so many.",
">\n\nHe saw a reality tv star play a role upon a mountain of lies and now he thinks he can too.",
">\n\nMaybe the left is missing the message here. Run as republican, be outraged by all the silly shit that Ra yell at, but then vote leftwing.\nPretend to be a right-wing nut job, but vote left",
">\n\nBecause this is how you get elected and get a fuckton of money, obviously. It's easy to do. Look at Musk and Trump - also previously non-nationalists (but always grifters) capitalizing on the rightzis' lunacy and hysteria. 'Pay me if you want to survive the assault on white identity and religion' is a ~~powerful~~ profitable message.",
">\n\nR/conservative",
">\n\nCon-men have no political philosophies, just scams.",
">\n\nThese fucks just want fame. They don’t care which side they’re on, just as long as they see themselves in the paper, on the news and internet. Narcissists.",
">\n\nHe wasn’t a “Leftist” but he certainly has all the familiar traits of a sociopathic Conservative. Georgieboi will say and do anything to get what he wants. It is your stereotypical malignant Narcissist.",
">\n\nSleeper agent?",
">\n\nThe reason for “this crazy thing” is called money. He was obviously bought by some group to run as a gay republican to get votes in a contested district, and it worked. All efforts should be put in it tracking down who paid him to do this and creating strong ethical standards for elected officials",
">\n\nI can guarantee you he didn't just recently turn crazy",
">\n\nIf the song was about Santos, it basically would have been I met a drag queen, she was horrible, I went somewhere else.",
">\n\nI'm gonna channel my inner Obi Wan and ask who's more foolish, the fool, or the fool who votes for him?",
">\n\nThis is how politics works in the US. Hasan and his uncle Cenk talk about this all the time. Going the right wing route is a way more profitable route. For a lot of them its just a grift. The marks/voters are an extremely manipulable bunch, and the funders (billionaires/corporations) have big pockets",
">\n\nHonestly, I think this guy is awesome. Taking the republican clown archetype to the absolute extreme and exposing just how corrupt and ridiculous they are as they fumble to continue supporting him.",
">\n\nDiamond and Silk were rabid left wingers until they realized the grift opportunities were much better on the other side.",
">\n\n🎶🎶 Money money money, must be funny, in a rich man's world. 🎶🎶🎶🎶",
">\n\nThe USA- where literally anyone can come and become a right wing biggot.",
">\n\nStick that man's brain in a pigeon and it will fly backwards...",
">\n\nHe is nothing but an opportunist.",
">\n\nWe really need to see this guy’s birth certificate.",
">\n\nThe oppo researchers in the NY Democratic Party should be sacked. Honestly. How the hell did this guy get through a whole campaign without this coming out?",
">\n\nIt did come out. And local press covered it. It’s just that nobody gave a shit…",
">\n\nCrazy thing = scam artist and probable Russian plant",
">\n\nMy guess is he’s always been a pathological liar and doesn’t have any convictions or principles",
">\n\nHe never supported anything except his own enrichment. The guy is a psycho and always has been.",
">\n\nIs it that odd? I do believe a number of current conservatives both in the media and in politics were at one point pretty liberal, but when they found out they couldn't make money off it, they went to the right.",
">\n\nGrift is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nI don't think he actually believes his own shit, but I do wonder if he is being paid off by a foreign power to help destabilize the US",
">\n\nBasically one-upping Kyrsten Sinema",
">\n\nWhy is he not being recalled by his district ?",
">\n\nWhose payroll is he on?",
">\n\nI just wish this article was about Matt Gaetz",
">\n\nSimilar to people like Trump or Candice Owens. These people have no ideology just the grift path of least resistance.",
">\n\nAll these formerly hidden fun facts about ol' George here are sooo interesting. He's just a never-ending fount of delightful surprises!\nP.S. Did you know that George Santos lassos rampaging bulls with his penis?",
">\n\nYeah, he probably lied about all that too",
">\n\nDamn, I never thought anyone on the republican team could do their makeup better than Trump, but I was wrong!",
">\n\nSir Lies a lot",
">\n\nHe didn’t change. He was always a liar. I wouldn’t be shocked if he was a straight up\nPsychopath.",
">\n\nPrevious Jobs Drag Artist…\nRepublicans: i think we can be a good match and we have a job offer for you.",
">\n\nPlease can someone make a visual timeline of this man’s life and lies? It’s so complicated that I can’t understand the full history of when he showed up in politics and the claims he’s made. It’s too convoluted to comprehend. I need bullet points. Or drawrings.",
">\n\nWho is this guy? Like he could be some sleeper agent",
">\n\nso he's clearly either an opportunist, or a legit crazy person... or both",
">\n\nThis story doesn’t even seem real.",
">\n\n“Article I, Section 2, Clause 2: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.”\nHow did he get into congress if you need to be a U.S. citizen for at least 7 years?",
">\n\nHe wanted progressive policies for his own country. He's happy to profit from destroying this one.",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is Glenn Greenwald?",
">\n\nI've never seen him and Kyrsten Sinema in the same room together.\nI'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'",
">\n\nWhich sounds more realistic?\n1) hundreds and hundreds of people are all lying about one person, across continents\n2) one person is lying A BUNCH.",
">\n\nI want to know if he's actually a US citizen, or if just lied about that like everything else.",
">\n\nAre we sure that \"George Santos\" is not just a Sacha Baron Cohen project at this point?",
">\n\nThis is literally full grift mode mask off. There isn't any hard evidence a guy like Dave Rubin switches to the right for money, but we all know it's true.\nThis grift has receipts.",
">\n\nHe goes where the grift is. Right now the maga crowd is so reactionary and blinded by the identity politics of the right that they don't notice their pockets being picked",
">\n\nThe crazy theory of him being actually an actor working for Sasha Baron Cohen sounds less and less crazy every day.",
">\n\nProbably just a grifter who saw where the suckers were at. People like him don't have any real political beliefs.",
">\n\nThe quote that stood out to me is “he wanted to be famous, no matter what.” He got his wish.",
">\n\nSo he’s drag Trump?",
">\n\nMany people are actually left leaning and for policies that benefit many people, all people. Until they move to the US, and are fed “patriotic” adjectives by the GOP. \nI.e. my in laws.",
">\n\nOr he just knew which party would be more receptive to grift",
">\n\nIt’s so nice to see the GOP, the party of \"facts and logic,” standing by a party member known to be so honest and truthful...",
">\n\nRepublicans need to stop endorsing con-men and Yahoos. The Republican Party is looking like some kind of Clown Party.",
">\n\nIt’s like bizarro Kyrsten Sinema… is he a democrat plant for revenge purposes? /s?",
">\n\nWhat if he's trying to infiltrate the enemy and do a double-cross and we all blew his cover?",
">\n\nAll the crazy that Russian money could buy.",
">\n\nYeah, these types of people stand for nothing.\nThey just shift into whatever the environment calls for.",
">\n\nMakes u really wonder what plans he has for any confidential information he may be privy to during his term.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to me how this happens. Like there was no real Republican that was interested in the office so they just went with this guy? Like how does it happen.",
">\n\nThis is a real republican...",
">\n\nIs he the Cousin of Ronnette Desantis from Florida???",
">\n\nThis guy is nuts. When I first saw stories of this dude I thought he looked off af. His look just didn’t fit. Like a skinwalker. And every story, including this one, has only affirmed those instincts more. Uncanny valley in the modern age.",
">\n\nHas Glenn Greenwald gotten on the case yet being an investigative journalist who lives in Brazil???",
">\n\nMan just wanted some free healthcare for life",
">\n\nEver read “Kiss of the Spider Woman?” A flamboyant gay drag queen in South America is joyfully apolitical even as the government is cracking down on people like him. This makes him an easy mark, and in return for little favors the fascists turn him into a double agent working for them instead.",
">\n\nIt’s easy to get elected if you just spew enough hate into the right people.",
">\n\nIt would be so easy to be a right wing grifter",
">\n\nHe probably got introduced to Putin by Glenn Greenwald.",
">\n\nIf this whole thing turns out to be some piece of performance art. I will admit it's impressive.",
">\n\nHe has to be friends with Glen Greenwald",
">\n\nCapitalism consumes those with a weak mind. Makes sense Santos betrayed the left and gave in to the vast wealth the conservative movement offered. Dude was an opportunist, and the GOP gullible rich assholes. Perfect marriage",
">\n\nThey love how the crazies distract the libs so much that they'll keep electing them until it's the GCP.",
">\n\nLauren Boebert was a sugar baby found through a casting website.\nThe whole plan is to make sure that tons of clown candidates break through.\nIt creates the narrative that all government is corrupt and we need a strong fascist to fix things. \"I mean, you don't see the Democrats doing anything to stop Santos or MTG or Boebert...\" they'll argue as they throw Santos out.",
">\n\n\"Crazy\" is more likely to be accepted by the Republican party, the Democrats would have turned him away.",
">\n\n\"this crazy thing\" being your standard political grifter?",
">\n\nThe Big Reveal: He is Andy Kaufman.",
">\n\nNo it's a republicans so desperate to win a seat in any district that even crazy are on the menu.",
">\n\nLike Trump and Musk, too. I guess it takes far less effort to gather and keep idiots as constituents",
">\n\nI feel at this point I need a docuseries about what the hell is going on with this guy.",
">\n\nDuh. He followed the money. So did Trump. And Candice Owens.",
">\n\nMoney is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nOut of the many characteristics he has, his most outstanding feature is his ability to lie. So he turned to the party of liars.",
">\n\nIt’s always the same shit. Some loser tried and failed to fit in with leftists because they had a shallow grasp on progressivism and were more interested with personal gain and were willing to abandon everything they claimed they stood for, all so that they can go grift and get money from conservatives making themselves out to be “one of the good ones”. Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, George santos, Jimmy dore, the list goes on.",
">\n\nWhen they can no longer defend him in the face of the mudslide of lies, they say he's a \"leftist\". Lol omg seriously? He never went anywhere as a Democrat. This idiot is a con artist pure and simple. He got elected Ted as a GOP Rep. Those are the facts.",
">\n\nJust like most of the other GOP they look at their job as entertainment and personal gain. It's all a game to them like going to Vegas.",
">\n\nWhat kind of art do they do?",
">\n\nThe American Dream.",
">\n\nTroll level: 1000",
">\n\nAnd this is the Republican Party in a nutshell. No background checks. Just wants a seat in congress!",
">\n\nThis is just like new Mexican immigrants like Paola Ramos who was right-wing in Mexico yet when they come to the U.S. they are left wing.",
">\n\nI am all for Brazilian drag artists in general, even the mendacious kind, but it's rather shocking that one could become a MAGA congressman so easily. WTF, America.",
">\n\nHe never left drag. He just changed his costume.",
">\n\nThe GOP is the way they are because of money. They have lost sight that they are actually mandated to run and improve the country. That has taken a back seat.",
">\n\nThis is what happens when there are no consequences for lying politicians",
">\n\nConservatives wanted to drag the drag queens into their culture wars and they have exceeded expectations."
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It's called "grift". They proclaim to be whatever brings them most benefit.
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"He knew conservatives would be the easiest marks. He was right.",
">\n\nIf I pulled a grift on Republican voters, I'd immediately flip to Democrat after winning election.\nI am reasonably confident I could continue to manipulate them even as a Democrat lmao",
">\n\nAh, the Sinema strategy.",
">\n\nNot terribly smart. Sinema might want to make money as a lobbyist after she leaves politics but she has almost no good relations with either the Democrats or GOP. Her grifter tactics are going to backfire hard",
">\n\nWhen you make more money than you can spend in a lifetime, does it matter",
">\n\nGiven her whole \"prada-socialist\" gimmick from a few years ago, I'm going to bet she has a spending problem.",
">\n\nthat article was oddly enthralling thank you",
">\n\nHaha I thought the same thing. Glad you enjoyed it",
">\n\nThe best part of this is watching the lack of integrity of his fellow republicans get exposed as they jump through hoops to keep supporting him.",
">\n\nI had the thought of \"what if that's the point of the long con\" but immediately shot that down because consistency, integrity, and appearances don't matter. Them being caught in a double standard doesn't matter.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is what the GOP is now. It's entirely filled by grifters who find some way to tap into peoples' dissatisfaction with Democrats. It has nothing to do with ideas or ideology or charisma or even anger in some cases. Mtg got in with qanon. Matt gaetz got in by having a rich dad. George Santos got in because it was a good year for Republicans in new york. And trump got in because he ran against Hillary Clinton.\nNobody cares about the results. They probably don't even care about the current trans panic. They stopped caring about the election years ago. And now they don't even care about q. \nThis is the modern republican party. And by the looks of it they overdosed on nihilism",
">\n\nI'm so exhausted living in a world with adult babies.",
">\n\nMuch prefer the diaper lovers, at least they keep to themselves.",
">\n\nHe could smell the money. It's all about the grift. Tomorrow I could start being a right wing grifter and within a year be a millionaire....\nHey, wait a minute. Excuse me...",
">\n\nMan the amount of times I have thought \"ya know if it weren't for this pesky conscience, I could be rich right now, just gotta tell the sheep what they want to hear and they will throw their money at you.\"\nBut I would feel bad about fleecing people out of their money, so I don't. Morals always getting in the way of making money...",
">\n\nIt's a problem. I couldn't live with myself.",
">\n\nRight?\nIve been tempted to start a megachurch so many times, but I would feel so horrible lying to those people to extract their money from them.",
">\n\nMaybe starting a new religion isn’t a bad thing. All religions are more like clustered philosophies and sets of rules on how to live a good life; the mythology and associated deities are secondary to that purpose\nIt wouldn’t be hard to make a new religion more ethical than Mormonism at least",
">\n\nI've had that thought, call it the Church of Autotheism, and base it around the idea we are all our own gods, in that we are responsible for our own actions, and the consequences of those actions. We are gods because we change the world every time we interact it with, no matter how minor that interaction is or how subtle the change caused is.\nThe hope being that if you make people aware of their actions and the consequences that they would choose to be good. Which is probably wishful thinking at best.",
">\n\nIt would fail as a religion\n\n\nEvery religion advocates for consequentialism. Every single one.\n\n\nThe purpose of Gods whether they be Allah, Buddha, Vishnu, Ahura Mazda, The Jade Emperor, etc. is to remind people that human beings are not Gods; that human beings are ultimately falliable and that there is a reason mankind is in a fallen state, whether it be sin, haram, desire, karma, etc. Religion doesn’t work without a direct figure of worship for this reason",
">\n\nYea I know. It doesn't come with that fear of divine or cosmic retribution that hooks people.\nCan't scare people if you whole thing is \"everything is chaos, nothing means anything, so why not try being nice to each other to make things more pleasant?\" except dressed up in theological language.",
">\n\nIsnt he wanted for some crimes back in brazil?",
">\n\nBeing an extreme right wing operative is much more profitable.",
">\n\nEspecially if you're a minority. They'll build you the biggest, most expensive pedestal you've ever seen so they can show the world \"See? We can't possibly be oppressors! Here is someone we want to oppress that agrees with us!“\nAnd when you've finally helped them accomplish their goals, you'll have the honor of being second against the wall.\nAnyway, what this guy claimed years ago and what this guy claims today simply doesn't matter. His word is worthless and trying to sort the truth from the lies is a fools errand. \nHe may not even know the answer himself.",
">\n\nRemember that even in nazi germany there were Jews agreeing, supporting, and collaborating with Hitler. Only to end up in concentration camps in the end.",
">\n\nSame reason Trump switched.\nConservatives are ripe for the taking and have zero critical thinking skills.",
">\n\nSame reason for the difference in advertisements you see in conservative media. They will buy anything. All sorts of random pills, gold scams, objective trash as seen on TV stuff, scam finance stuff, etc, etc. All of this on prime time cable. You don't see them on regular media because market research is telling advertisers that conservatives are the stupidest demographic.",
">\n\nPart of me just wants to create a non profit and milk these idiots dry and then just keep 95% of the donations for running the non profit…\nEasy money.",
">\n\n\"Ted Nugent's Fund For Repossessing Mexicans' food? Sign me the fuck up\"\nActually it's me and my bros using their money to buy all the tacos we can eat...",
">\n\nI'm so ready for this idiot to be out of the news. Can he just resign in disgrace already?",
">\n\nLol it's cute if you think politicians still resign in this day",
">\n\nDemocrats resign in disgrace. \nRepublicans just keep on doubling down to the cheers of their voters.",
">\n\nDemocrats resign over fucking nothing. \nFucking nothing makes a Republican resign.",
">\n\nI'm honestly worried Biden might resign over these documents found in his residence...",
">\n\nNot worried. The presidents daily schedule is top secret. But eventually outdated and useless info. He probably kept the schedules with his notes and didn’t think it was really an issue to people with common sense. Time will tell. Except for on Fox News.",
">\n\nSeems like he had the same \"I can make so much money grifting the idiots on the right\" idea that I've had many times.\nOnly difference is that he's actually twisted enough to go out and do it. I say I'll do it quite often, but I'm not shitty enough to go through with it.",
">\n\nI have had this thought so many times as a bilingual x missionary kid. If we ran together we could make a killing! :P",
">\n\nI was a Bible Thumper, went to Christian school.. Oh man I could tute the tune on the horn they play. Like a fucking fiddle it would be so easy.",
">\n\nChristian college here bud, join the ticket.",
">\n\nChristian high school, christian college, white with blond hair and parents are rich, and born and raised in the south. It would be sooo easy.",
">\n\nYou are invited too bud, we need a vet and we're fuckin set.",
">\n\nHell ya! Let’s put this religious trauma to use",
">\n\nI'm an old ass left coast librul and I welcome this chaos magic.",
">\n\nFantastic work, did you train a model with every George Santos picture you could find?",
">\n\nTrained w about 30 pics.",
">\n\nI'm impressed",
">\n\nCriminals recognize criminals. I’m convinced any person running with an R next to their name at this point is strictly an opportunistic grifter with zero interest in governing",
">\n\nWas this comment written in the late 1980's. Ronald Reagan...",
">\n\nThe precise moment productivity and wages set off on their separate journeys and never spoke again.",
">\n\nAww come on that money gonna trickle down any year now...",
">\n\nProof that anyone that can lie can be an elected republican",
">\n\nDude, it’s getting sad at this point.\nIt’s blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention, and I hate to say it because again it makes me sad, but conservatives are rubes. These people have progressively seen how gullible they are and now there’s a feeding frenzy. \nThey smelled blood in the water when they saw Trump’s popularity rose prior to the 2016 election and they haven’t stopped since.",
">\n\n\"If that idiot can grift so can I\"",
">\n\nImagine if we took money out of politics and politicians were only working for the betterment of the people. We wouldn't have nearly as many of these stories where a conservative person is looking down on or doing something they say they're against.\nShit, if our politicians weren't suckling the teat of the rich we would likely have healthcare, people would be fed, and this manufactured inflation that's making us all poorer would have been nipped I'm the bud back when they first thought they could pull one over on the working class. \nInstead, we just get the stick.",
">\n\nTake the excess campaign dollars out of it. Don’t allow ANY money to be donated. Let every candidate start with the same dollar amount, maybe 5-10 million raised from donations and use it for expenses as they tour across the country, meeting the voters. Once the campaign money is gone, it’s gone. A bipartisan site online could accept the donations for any candidate and keep a running total of money received. Have TV debates, with the understanding that anyone breaking the rules will be immediately muted, and asked to leave. Have town hall meetings. Get politics back to the PEOPLE, to grassroots campaigns that don’t spend $100 million on one candidate. It levels the playing field for anyone to run that can raise $10 million through grassroots efforts. No politician should be beholden to huge campaign contributors. Do away with lobbying! Our country can be run better by a humanitarian,and a great administration of extremely qualified individuals. Military, Finance, Social issues, Education, Intelligence, Veterans issues, etc. we have to change the way the US is run, including elections. The richest people in the country are BUYING politicians…something the majority of the country can’t compete in, and don’t want to compete in. It would be wonderful to start voting in people based on their intelligence, their character, and their history and background. People who were overachievers in high school, college, and work. Vetting for every candidate, and any negative findings that are related to morals is disqualifying. Whoever is running this country need to be above reproach. Maybe Hakeem Jeffries, who has a great track record and is younger and more enthusiastic that anyone in the Republican Party He’s done so much for his constituents, that it’s obvious he’s a good man , and very intelligent",
">\n\nI agree with everything you said except the Hakeem Jeffries part. He takes tons of campaign bribes from multiple industries. There are democrats in the house of representatives with much cleaner records than him.",
">\n\nSantos is whoever he needs to be to pull a scam.",
">\n\nHe didn't didn't run on a whim. Someone \"encouraged\" him. Trace the origin of his money.",
">\n\nTrump has been a registered Democrat, Reformer & Republican.\nGrifters go where the money is at.",
">\n\nbeing a republican politician is basically an extremely immoral form of drag when you think about it.",
">\n\nI am now convinced that he got all of his money from the Republican party. I'm convinced that they knew he was lying all along, and they did whatever they could to get him elected. Why? Because he provides a really good distraction. While we're all watching the George Santos show, the Republicans are quietly destroying democracy.",
">\n\nHe knew it would be easy to fool a bunch of conservatives, and unfortunately he was right. Bunch of easy marks.",
">\n\nWhenever I run across a gay Republican (and they are definitely out there) I immediately assume they’re a sociopath.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian, who's perpetually befuddled by American politics, I'm amazed that someone with that gay of a face is flashing white power symbols.",
">\n\nIs George even Tony’s real name?",
">\n\nHe didn't just pop up out of nowhere and win a race all on his own. Someone chose him to be the front-man, organized, and paid for his campaign. Be interesting to find out who that was.",
">\n\nThis dude is a distraction. I’m not super into politics but I have a feeling that someone is doing some really shady shit and it being overlooked for this low hanging piece of shit.",
">\n\nIs it just me or are right wingers their own unique brand of especially gullible marks? I mean, scams don't have a political leaning but there's a lot of ways to make money selling explicitly right wing nonsense.",
">\n\nSo basically, New York elected Borat to Congress.",
">\n\nRepublicans elected him to congress",
">\n\nNo not at all, he won the Long Island district that almost always votes democrat. But it’s got a large Jewish population so he lied about being Jewish.",
">\n\nLong Islanders continue to be the stupidest fucking people",
">\n\nI'm still grappling with the fact that people care more about when he dressed up in costume as a different gender, rather than the extensive lies about his credentials.",
">\n\nI don't think \"they\" do. I.e. I think most normal people realize all that other shit is waaay worse. But everyone is wondering what the deal-breaker will be for the GOP, and you'd think that'd be proof he was a drag queen, hence the attention that's getting.\nIOW it's just evidence of how low our expectations are of the Republicans.",
">\n\nIf only I was shameless and doesn't care how much people will hate me, I definitely would run for a republican office.",
">\n\nIf you’re a conman trying to get money from political campaigns conservatives are an easy mark.",
">\n\nThere's a reason people right-wing grift. Easy money. It's also why the left-wing grift isn't a thing.",
">\n\nI’m noticing a trend with all these right wing psychos, there’s a whole lot of South Americans and Cubans in their ranks.",
">\n\nI knew the water circled the drain differently when crossing the equator, but this is ridiculous.",
">\n\nThis thread doesn't deserve your comment.",
">\n\nHe saw how gullible the Right is and how to exploit them for $",
">\n\nHe's not right or left. He's a con man. And the smart voters in NY actually voted him into office. Maybe do some research before you vote and don't vote along party lines.",
">\n\nIt’s just the last part, and they won’t.",
">\n\nMaybe he is a Trojan horse",
">\n\nOr a Trojan rep",
">\n\nHe did what Trump did, realized who the stupid people were and joined their side.",
">\n\nIs this dude getting cawthorned? Do Republicans make them go and commit kompromat before they support them?",
">\n\nThis will be the thing that really angers the Right....",
">\n\nGeorge Santo is a Lizard Person e.g. a Chameleon changing to his current environment in order to survive and prosper.",
">\n\nSome people flip flop between political extremes. On a rare occation it means they have an open mind. More often than not, they are just fools, though.",
">\n\nIt is so tragic that his family was in the holocaust and his mother died at the towers on 911",
">\n\nPure sociopath wil say anything to anyone",
">\n\nYou mean turn into a Russian agent for money and power beyond his imagination to hurt a country he didn't give a flying rat's ass about? He's not even a traitor - he's just working for Papa Putin to fuck the Americans.",
">\n\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent",
">\n\nOpportunistic Brazilian ConArtist",
">\n\nThis just goes to show why vetting processes need to happen before someone is elected",
">\n\nHe's one of those, like Trump, that is whatever is most convenient at that moment. Not really anything at all when you cut down to the deepest layer. \nTrump and Hillary were such friends that he invited her to his wedding. Years later, he's this alt-right champion. It's ridiculous and barely covers the fact that he will play any side that benefits him. Just like this boy Santos. Both sociopathic liars with fragile egos and shaky claims to any thing remotely verifiable as truth.",
">\n\nUndiagnosed personality disorders are all around us.",
">\n\nSays a lot about George Santos that I believe a random Drag Artist in Brazil over the elected politician George Santos \nCaveat, Not that I wouldnt believe something a person says (drag artist or not), but if random people came out on the internet and said, “Trump randomly said to me one time he loves Democrat policies and was a huge Obama fan” I’d be like, “Okay, random person, Trumps a shitty person but I doubt that.” George Santos is such a fucking liar I’m like, “She probably telling the truth”",
">\n\nEvery day this looks more like a borat movie in real life.",
">\n\nIF America had rejected tRump, this pathological liar, wouldn't be here now.",
">\n\nI don't know about everyone else but I'm starting to think that this guy might not be the most trustworthy",
">\n\nWho is this person? He fooled so many.",
">\n\nHe saw a reality tv star play a role upon a mountain of lies and now he thinks he can too.",
">\n\nMaybe the left is missing the message here. Run as republican, be outraged by all the silly shit that Ra yell at, but then vote leftwing.\nPretend to be a right-wing nut job, but vote left",
">\n\nBecause this is how you get elected and get a fuckton of money, obviously. It's easy to do. Look at Musk and Trump - also previously non-nationalists (but always grifters) capitalizing on the rightzis' lunacy and hysteria. 'Pay me if you want to survive the assault on white identity and religion' is a ~~powerful~~ profitable message.",
">\n\nR/conservative",
">\n\nCon-men have no political philosophies, just scams.",
">\n\nThese fucks just want fame. They don’t care which side they’re on, just as long as they see themselves in the paper, on the news and internet. Narcissists.",
">\n\nHe wasn’t a “Leftist” but he certainly has all the familiar traits of a sociopathic Conservative. Georgieboi will say and do anything to get what he wants. It is your stereotypical malignant Narcissist.",
">\n\nSleeper agent?",
">\n\nThe reason for “this crazy thing” is called money. He was obviously bought by some group to run as a gay republican to get votes in a contested district, and it worked. All efforts should be put in it tracking down who paid him to do this and creating strong ethical standards for elected officials",
">\n\nI can guarantee you he didn't just recently turn crazy",
">\n\nIf the song was about Santos, it basically would have been I met a drag queen, she was horrible, I went somewhere else.",
">\n\nI'm gonna channel my inner Obi Wan and ask who's more foolish, the fool, or the fool who votes for him?",
">\n\nThis is how politics works in the US. Hasan and his uncle Cenk talk about this all the time. Going the right wing route is a way more profitable route. For a lot of them its just a grift. The marks/voters are an extremely manipulable bunch, and the funders (billionaires/corporations) have big pockets",
">\n\nHonestly, I think this guy is awesome. Taking the republican clown archetype to the absolute extreme and exposing just how corrupt and ridiculous they are as they fumble to continue supporting him.",
">\n\nDiamond and Silk were rabid left wingers until they realized the grift opportunities were much better on the other side.",
">\n\n🎶🎶 Money money money, must be funny, in a rich man's world. 🎶🎶🎶🎶",
">\n\nThe USA- where literally anyone can come and become a right wing biggot.",
">\n\nStick that man's brain in a pigeon and it will fly backwards...",
">\n\nHe is nothing but an opportunist.",
">\n\nWe really need to see this guy’s birth certificate.",
">\n\nThe oppo researchers in the NY Democratic Party should be sacked. Honestly. How the hell did this guy get through a whole campaign without this coming out?",
">\n\nIt did come out. And local press covered it. It’s just that nobody gave a shit…",
">\n\nCrazy thing = scam artist and probable Russian plant",
">\n\nMy guess is he’s always been a pathological liar and doesn’t have any convictions or principles",
">\n\nHe never supported anything except his own enrichment. The guy is a psycho and always has been.",
">\n\nIs it that odd? I do believe a number of current conservatives both in the media and in politics were at one point pretty liberal, but when they found out they couldn't make money off it, they went to the right.",
">\n\nGrift is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nI don't think he actually believes his own shit, but I do wonder if he is being paid off by a foreign power to help destabilize the US",
">\n\nBasically one-upping Kyrsten Sinema",
">\n\nWhy is he not being recalled by his district ?",
">\n\nWhose payroll is he on?",
">\n\nI just wish this article was about Matt Gaetz",
">\n\nSimilar to people like Trump or Candice Owens. These people have no ideology just the grift path of least resistance.",
">\n\nAll these formerly hidden fun facts about ol' George here are sooo interesting. He's just a never-ending fount of delightful surprises!\nP.S. Did you know that George Santos lassos rampaging bulls with his penis?",
">\n\nYeah, he probably lied about all that too",
">\n\nDamn, I never thought anyone on the republican team could do their makeup better than Trump, but I was wrong!",
">\n\nSir Lies a lot",
">\n\nHe didn’t change. He was always a liar. I wouldn’t be shocked if he was a straight up\nPsychopath.",
">\n\nPrevious Jobs Drag Artist…\nRepublicans: i think we can be a good match and we have a job offer for you.",
">\n\nPlease can someone make a visual timeline of this man’s life and lies? It’s so complicated that I can’t understand the full history of when he showed up in politics and the claims he’s made. It’s too convoluted to comprehend. I need bullet points. Or drawrings.",
">\n\nWho is this guy? Like he could be some sleeper agent",
">\n\nso he's clearly either an opportunist, or a legit crazy person... or both",
">\n\nThis story doesn’t even seem real.",
">\n\n“Article I, Section 2, Clause 2: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.”\nHow did he get into congress if you need to be a U.S. citizen for at least 7 years?",
">\n\nHe wanted progressive policies for his own country. He's happy to profit from destroying this one.",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is Glenn Greenwald?",
">\n\nI've never seen him and Kyrsten Sinema in the same room together.\nI'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'",
">\n\nWhich sounds more realistic?\n1) hundreds and hundreds of people are all lying about one person, across continents\n2) one person is lying A BUNCH.",
">\n\nI want to know if he's actually a US citizen, or if just lied about that like everything else.",
">\n\nAre we sure that \"George Santos\" is not just a Sacha Baron Cohen project at this point?",
">\n\nThis is literally full grift mode mask off. There isn't any hard evidence a guy like Dave Rubin switches to the right for money, but we all know it's true.\nThis grift has receipts.",
">\n\nHe goes where the grift is. Right now the maga crowd is so reactionary and blinded by the identity politics of the right that they don't notice their pockets being picked",
">\n\nThe crazy theory of him being actually an actor working for Sasha Baron Cohen sounds less and less crazy every day.",
">\n\nProbably just a grifter who saw where the suckers were at. People like him don't have any real political beliefs.",
">\n\nThe quote that stood out to me is “he wanted to be famous, no matter what.” He got his wish.",
">\n\nSo he’s drag Trump?",
">\n\nMany people are actually left leaning and for policies that benefit many people, all people. Until they move to the US, and are fed “patriotic” adjectives by the GOP. \nI.e. my in laws.",
">\n\nOr he just knew which party would be more receptive to grift",
">\n\nIt’s so nice to see the GOP, the party of \"facts and logic,” standing by a party member known to be so honest and truthful...",
">\n\nRepublicans need to stop endorsing con-men and Yahoos. The Republican Party is looking like some kind of Clown Party.",
">\n\nIt’s like bizarro Kyrsten Sinema… is he a democrat plant for revenge purposes? /s?",
">\n\nWhat if he's trying to infiltrate the enemy and do a double-cross and we all blew his cover?",
">\n\nAll the crazy that Russian money could buy.",
">\n\nYeah, these types of people stand for nothing.\nThey just shift into whatever the environment calls for.",
">\n\nMakes u really wonder what plans he has for any confidential information he may be privy to during his term.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to me how this happens. Like there was no real Republican that was interested in the office so they just went with this guy? Like how does it happen.",
">\n\nThis is a real republican...",
">\n\nIs he the Cousin of Ronnette Desantis from Florida???",
">\n\nThis guy is nuts. When I first saw stories of this dude I thought he looked off af. His look just didn’t fit. Like a skinwalker. And every story, including this one, has only affirmed those instincts more. Uncanny valley in the modern age.",
">\n\nHas Glenn Greenwald gotten on the case yet being an investigative journalist who lives in Brazil???",
">\n\nMan just wanted some free healthcare for life",
">\n\nEver read “Kiss of the Spider Woman?” A flamboyant gay drag queen in South America is joyfully apolitical even as the government is cracking down on people like him. This makes him an easy mark, and in return for little favors the fascists turn him into a double agent working for them instead.",
">\n\nIt’s easy to get elected if you just spew enough hate into the right people.",
">\n\nIt would be so easy to be a right wing grifter",
">\n\nHe probably got introduced to Putin by Glenn Greenwald.",
">\n\nIf this whole thing turns out to be some piece of performance art. I will admit it's impressive.",
">\n\nHe has to be friends with Glen Greenwald",
">\n\nCapitalism consumes those with a weak mind. Makes sense Santos betrayed the left and gave in to the vast wealth the conservative movement offered. Dude was an opportunist, and the GOP gullible rich assholes. Perfect marriage",
">\n\nThey love how the crazies distract the libs so much that they'll keep electing them until it's the GCP.",
">\n\nLauren Boebert was a sugar baby found through a casting website.\nThe whole plan is to make sure that tons of clown candidates break through.\nIt creates the narrative that all government is corrupt and we need a strong fascist to fix things. \"I mean, you don't see the Democrats doing anything to stop Santos or MTG or Boebert...\" they'll argue as they throw Santos out.",
">\n\n\"Crazy\" is more likely to be accepted by the Republican party, the Democrats would have turned him away.",
">\n\n\"this crazy thing\" being your standard political grifter?",
">\n\nThe Big Reveal: He is Andy Kaufman.",
">\n\nNo it's a republicans so desperate to win a seat in any district that even crazy are on the menu.",
">\n\nLike Trump and Musk, too. I guess it takes far less effort to gather and keep idiots as constituents",
">\n\nI feel at this point I need a docuseries about what the hell is going on with this guy.",
">\n\nDuh. He followed the money. So did Trump. And Candice Owens.",
">\n\nMoney is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nOut of the many characteristics he has, his most outstanding feature is his ability to lie. So he turned to the party of liars.",
">\n\nIt’s always the same shit. Some loser tried and failed to fit in with leftists because they had a shallow grasp on progressivism and were more interested with personal gain and were willing to abandon everything they claimed they stood for, all so that they can go grift and get money from conservatives making themselves out to be “one of the good ones”. Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, George santos, Jimmy dore, the list goes on.",
">\n\nWhen they can no longer defend him in the face of the mudslide of lies, they say he's a \"leftist\". Lol omg seriously? He never went anywhere as a Democrat. This idiot is a con artist pure and simple. He got elected Ted as a GOP Rep. Those are the facts.",
">\n\nJust like most of the other GOP they look at their job as entertainment and personal gain. It's all a game to them like going to Vegas.",
">\n\nWhat kind of art do they do?",
">\n\nThe American Dream.",
">\n\nTroll level: 1000",
">\n\nAnd this is the Republican Party in a nutshell. No background checks. Just wants a seat in congress!",
">\n\nThis is just like new Mexican immigrants like Paola Ramos who was right-wing in Mexico yet when they come to the U.S. they are left wing.",
">\n\nI am all for Brazilian drag artists in general, even the mendacious kind, but it's rather shocking that one could become a MAGA congressman so easily. WTF, America.",
">\n\nHe never left drag. He just changed his costume.",
">\n\nThe GOP is the way they are because of money. They have lost sight that they are actually mandated to run and improve the country. That has taken a back seat.",
">\n\nThis is what happens when there are no consequences for lying politicians",
">\n\nConservatives wanted to drag the drag queens into their culture wars and they have exceeded expectations.",
">\n\nThis man saw how easy it is to get republicans to vote for you and grifted to victory Lolol"
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Santos is anything he feels people need to fit in. Heck Santos was awarded one Congressional Medal of Honor and just returned from a Mars exploration - all for sucking dick!
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"He knew conservatives would be the easiest marks. He was right.",
">\n\nIf I pulled a grift on Republican voters, I'd immediately flip to Democrat after winning election.\nI am reasonably confident I could continue to manipulate them even as a Democrat lmao",
">\n\nAh, the Sinema strategy.",
">\n\nNot terribly smart. Sinema might want to make money as a lobbyist after she leaves politics but she has almost no good relations with either the Democrats or GOP. Her grifter tactics are going to backfire hard",
">\n\nWhen you make more money than you can spend in a lifetime, does it matter",
">\n\nGiven her whole \"prada-socialist\" gimmick from a few years ago, I'm going to bet she has a spending problem.",
">\n\nthat article was oddly enthralling thank you",
">\n\nHaha I thought the same thing. Glad you enjoyed it",
">\n\nThe best part of this is watching the lack of integrity of his fellow republicans get exposed as they jump through hoops to keep supporting him.",
">\n\nI had the thought of \"what if that's the point of the long con\" but immediately shot that down because consistency, integrity, and appearances don't matter. Them being caught in a double standard doesn't matter.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is what the GOP is now. It's entirely filled by grifters who find some way to tap into peoples' dissatisfaction with Democrats. It has nothing to do with ideas or ideology or charisma or even anger in some cases. Mtg got in with qanon. Matt gaetz got in by having a rich dad. George Santos got in because it was a good year for Republicans in new york. And trump got in because he ran against Hillary Clinton.\nNobody cares about the results. They probably don't even care about the current trans panic. They stopped caring about the election years ago. And now they don't even care about q. \nThis is the modern republican party. And by the looks of it they overdosed on nihilism",
">\n\nI'm so exhausted living in a world with adult babies.",
">\n\nMuch prefer the diaper lovers, at least they keep to themselves.",
">\n\nHe could smell the money. It's all about the grift. Tomorrow I could start being a right wing grifter and within a year be a millionaire....\nHey, wait a minute. Excuse me...",
">\n\nMan the amount of times I have thought \"ya know if it weren't for this pesky conscience, I could be rich right now, just gotta tell the sheep what they want to hear and they will throw their money at you.\"\nBut I would feel bad about fleecing people out of their money, so I don't. Morals always getting in the way of making money...",
">\n\nIt's a problem. I couldn't live with myself.",
">\n\nRight?\nIve been tempted to start a megachurch so many times, but I would feel so horrible lying to those people to extract their money from them.",
">\n\nMaybe starting a new religion isn’t a bad thing. All religions are more like clustered philosophies and sets of rules on how to live a good life; the mythology and associated deities are secondary to that purpose\nIt wouldn’t be hard to make a new religion more ethical than Mormonism at least",
">\n\nI've had that thought, call it the Church of Autotheism, and base it around the idea we are all our own gods, in that we are responsible for our own actions, and the consequences of those actions. We are gods because we change the world every time we interact it with, no matter how minor that interaction is or how subtle the change caused is.\nThe hope being that if you make people aware of their actions and the consequences that they would choose to be good. Which is probably wishful thinking at best.",
">\n\nIt would fail as a religion\n\n\nEvery religion advocates for consequentialism. Every single one.\n\n\nThe purpose of Gods whether they be Allah, Buddha, Vishnu, Ahura Mazda, The Jade Emperor, etc. is to remind people that human beings are not Gods; that human beings are ultimately falliable and that there is a reason mankind is in a fallen state, whether it be sin, haram, desire, karma, etc. Religion doesn’t work without a direct figure of worship for this reason",
">\n\nYea I know. It doesn't come with that fear of divine or cosmic retribution that hooks people.\nCan't scare people if you whole thing is \"everything is chaos, nothing means anything, so why not try being nice to each other to make things more pleasant?\" except dressed up in theological language.",
">\n\nIsnt he wanted for some crimes back in brazil?",
">\n\nBeing an extreme right wing operative is much more profitable.",
">\n\nEspecially if you're a minority. They'll build you the biggest, most expensive pedestal you've ever seen so they can show the world \"See? We can't possibly be oppressors! Here is someone we want to oppress that agrees with us!“\nAnd when you've finally helped them accomplish their goals, you'll have the honor of being second against the wall.\nAnyway, what this guy claimed years ago and what this guy claims today simply doesn't matter. His word is worthless and trying to sort the truth from the lies is a fools errand. \nHe may not even know the answer himself.",
">\n\nRemember that even in nazi germany there were Jews agreeing, supporting, and collaborating with Hitler. Only to end up in concentration camps in the end.",
">\n\nSame reason Trump switched.\nConservatives are ripe for the taking and have zero critical thinking skills.",
">\n\nSame reason for the difference in advertisements you see in conservative media. They will buy anything. All sorts of random pills, gold scams, objective trash as seen on TV stuff, scam finance stuff, etc, etc. All of this on prime time cable. You don't see them on regular media because market research is telling advertisers that conservatives are the stupidest demographic.",
">\n\nPart of me just wants to create a non profit and milk these idiots dry and then just keep 95% of the donations for running the non profit…\nEasy money.",
">\n\n\"Ted Nugent's Fund For Repossessing Mexicans' food? Sign me the fuck up\"\nActually it's me and my bros using their money to buy all the tacos we can eat...",
">\n\nI'm so ready for this idiot to be out of the news. Can he just resign in disgrace already?",
">\n\nLol it's cute if you think politicians still resign in this day",
">\n\nDemocrats resign in disgrace. \nRepublicans just keep on doubling down to the cheers of their voters.",
">\n\nDemocrats resign over fucking nothing. \nFucking nothing makes a Republican resign.",
">\n\nI'm honestly worried Biden might resign over these documents found in his residence...",
">\n\nNot worried. The presidents daily schedule is top secret. But eventually outdated and useless info. He probably kept the schedules with his notes and didn’t think it was really an issue to people with common sense. Time will tell. Except for on Fox News.",
">\n\nSeems like he had the same \"I can make so much money grifting the idiots on the right\" idea that I've had many times.\nOnly difference is that he's actually twisted enough to go out and do it. I say I'll do it quite often, but I'm not shitty enough to go through with it.",
">\n\nI have had this thought so many times as a bilingual x missionary kid. If we ran together we could make a killing! :P",
">\n\nI was a Bible Thumper, went to Christian school.. Oh man I could tute the tune on the horn they play. Like a fucking fiddle it would be so easy.",
">\n\nChristian college here bud, join the ticket.",
">\n\nChristian high school, christian college, white with blond hair and parents are rich, and born and raised in the south. It would be sooo easy.",
">\n\nYou are invited too bud, we need a vet and we're fuckin set.",
">\n\nHell ya! Let’s put this religious trauma to use",
">\n\nI'm an old ass left coast librul and I welcome this chaos magic.",
">\n\nFantastic work, did you train a model with every George Santos picture you could find?",
">\n\nTrained w about 30 pics.",
">\n\nI'm impressed",
">\n\nCriminals recognize criminals. I’m convinced any person running with an R next to their name at this point is strictly an opportunistic grifter with zero interest in governing",
">\n\nWas this comment written in the late 1980's. Ronald Reagan...",
">\n\nThe precise moment productivity and wages set off on their separate journeys and never spoke again.",
">\n\nAww come on that money gonna trickle down any year now...",
">\n\nProof that anyone that can lie can be an elected republican",
">\n\nDude, it’s getting sad at this point.\nIt’s blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention, and I hate to say it because again it makes me sad, but conservatives are rubes. These people have progressively seen how gullible they are and now there’s a feeding frenzy. \nThey smelled blood in the water when they saw Trump’s popularity rose prior to the 2016 election and they haven’t stopped since.",
">\n\n\"If that idiot can grift so can I\"",
">\n\nImagine if we took money out of politics and politicians were only working for the betterment of the people. We wouldn't have nearly as many of these stories where a conservative person is looking down on or doing something they say they're against.\nShit, if our politicians weren't suckling the teat of the rich we would likely have healthcare, people would be fed, and this manufactured inflation that's making us all poorer would have been nipped I'm the bud back when they first thought they could pull one over on the working class. \nInstead, we just get the stick.",
">\n\nTake the excess campaign dollars out of it. Don’t allow ANY money to be donated. Let every candidate start with the same dollar amount, maybe 5-10 million raised from donations and use it for expenses as they tour across the country, meeting the voters. Once the campaign money is gone, it’s gone. A bipartisan site online could accept the donations for any candidate and keep a running total of money received. Have TV debates, with the understanding that anyone breaking the rules will be immediately muted, and asked to leave. Have town hall meetings. Get politics back to the PEOPLE, to grassroots campaigns that don’t spend $100 million on one candidate. It levels the playing field for anyone to run that can raise $10 million through grassroots efforts. No politician should be beholden to huge campaign contributors. Do away with lobbying! Our country can be run better by a humanitarian,and a great administration of extremely qualified individuals. Military, Finance, Social issues, Education, Intelligence, Veterans issues, etc. we have to change the way the US is run, including elections. The richest people in the country are BUYING politicians…something the majority of the country can’t compete in, and don’t want to compete in. It would be wonderful to start voting in people based on their intelligence, their character, and their history and background. People who were overachievers in high school, college, and work. Vetting for every candidate, and any negative findings that are related to morals is disqualifying. Whoever is running this country need to be above reproach. Maybe Hakeem Jeffries, who has a great track record and is younger and more enthusiastic that anyone in the Republican Party He’s done so much for his constituents, that it’s obvious he’s a good man , and very intelligent",
">\n\nI agree with everything you said except the Hakeem Jeffries part. He takes tons of campaign bribes from multiple industries. There are democrats in the house of representatives with much cleaner records than him.",
">\n\nSantos is whoever he needs to be to pull a scam.",
">\n\nHe didn't didn't run on a whim. Someone \"encouraged\" him. Trace the origin of his money.",
">\n\nTrump has been a registered Democrat, Reformer & Republican.\nGrifters go where the money is at.",
">\n\nbeing a republican politician is basically an extremely immoral form of drag when you think about it.",
">\n\nI am now convinced that he got all of his money from the Republican party. I'm convinced that they knew he was lying all along, and they did whatever they could to get him elected. Why? Because he provides a really good distraction. While we're all watching the George Santos show, the Republicans are quietly destroying democracy.",
">\n\nHe knew it would be easy to fool a bunch of conservatives, and unfortunately he was right. Bunch of easy marks.",
">\n\nWhenever I run across a gay Republican (and they are definitely out there) I immediately assume they’re a sociopath.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian, who's perpetually befuddled by American politics, I'm amazed that someone with that gay of a face is flashing white power symbols.",
">\n\nIs George even Tony’s real name?",
">\n\nHe didn't just pop up out of nowhere and win a race all on his own. Someone chose him to be the front-man, organized, and paid for his campaign. Be interesting to find out who that was.",
">\n\nThis dude is a distraction. I’m not super into politics but I have a feeling that someone is doing some really shady shit and it being overlooked for this low hanging piece of shit.",
">\n\nIs it just me or are right wingers their own unique brand of especially gullible marks? I mean, scams don't have a political leaning but there's a lot of ways to make money selling explicitly right wing nonsense.",
">\n\nSo basically, New York elected Borat to Congress.",
">\n\nRepublicans elected him to congress",
">\n\nNo not at all, he won the Long Island district that almost always votes democrat. But it’s got a large Jewish population so he lied about being Jewish.",
">\n\nLong Islanders continue to be the stupidest fucking people",
">\n\nI'm still grappling with the fact that people care more about when he dressed up in costume as a different gender, rather than the extensive lies about his credentials.",
">\n\nI don't think \"they\" do. I.e. I think most normal people realize all that other shit is waaay worse. But everyone is wondering what the deal-breaker will be for the GOP, and you'd think that'd be proof he was a drag queen, hence the attention that's getting.\nIOW it's just evidence of how low our expectations are of the Republicans.",
">\n\nIf only I was shameless and doesn't care how much people will hate me, I definitely would run for a republican office.",
">\n\nIf you’re a conman trying to get money from political campaigns conservatives are an easy mark.",
">\n\nThere's a reason people right-wing grift. Easy money. It's also why the left-wing grift isn't a thing.",
">\n\nI’m noticing a trend with all these right wing psychos, there’s a whole lot of South Americans and Cubans in their ranks.",
">\n\nI knew the water circled the drain differently when crossing the equator, but this is ridiculous.",
">\n\nThis thread doesn't deserve your comment.",
">\n\nHe saw how gullible the Right is and how to exploit them for $",
">\n\nHe's not right or left. He's a con man. And the smart voters in NY actually voted him into office. Maybe do some research before you vote and don't vote along party lines.",
">\n\nIt’s just the last part, and they won’t.",
">\n\nMaybe he is a Trojan horse",
">\n\nOr a Trojan rep",
">\n\nHe did what Trump did, realized who the stupid people were and joined their side.",
">\n\nIs this dude getting cawthorned? Do Republicans make them go and commit kompromat before they support them?",
">\n\nThis will be the thing that really angers the Right....",
">\n\nGeorge Santo is a Lizard Person e.g. a Chameleon changing to his current environment in order to survive and prosper.",
">\n\nSome people flip flop between political extremes. On a rare occation it means they have an open mind. More often than not, they are just fools, though.",
">\n\nIt is so tragic that his family was in the holocaust and his mother died at the towers on 911",
">\n\nPure sociopath wil say anything to anyone",
">\n\nYou mean turn into a Russian agent for money and power beyond his imagination to hurt a country he didn't give a flying rat's ass about? He's not even a traitor - he's just working for Papa Putin to fuck the Americans.",
">\n\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent",
">\n\nOpportunistic Brazilian ConArtist",
">\n\nThis just goes to show why vetting processes need to happen before someone is elected",
">\n\nHe's one of those, like Trump, that is whatever is most convenient at that moment. Not really anything at all when you cut down to the deepest layer. \nTrump and Hillary were such friends that he invited her to his wedding. Years later, he's this alt-right champion. It's ridiculous and barely covers the fact that he will play any side that benefits him. Just like this boy Santos. Both sociopathic liars with fragile egos and shaky claims to any thing remotely verifiable as truth.",
">\n\nUndiagnosed personality disorders are all around us.",
">\n\nSays a lot about George Santos that I believe a random Drag Artist in Brazil over the elected politician George Santos \nCaveat, Not that I wouldnt believe something a person says (drag artist or not), but if random people came out on the internet and said, “Trump randomly said to me one time he loves Democrat policies and was a huge Obama fan” I’d be like, “Okay, random person, Trumps a shitty person but I doubt that.” George Santos is such a fucking liar I’m like, “She probably telling the truth”",
">\n\nEvery day this looks more like a borat movie in real life.",
">\n\nIF America had rejected tRump, this pathological liar, wouldn't be here now.",
">\n\nI don't know about everyone else but I'm starting to think that this guy might not be the most trustworthy",
">\n\nWho is this person? He fooled so many.",
">\n\nHe saw a reality tv star play a role upon a mountain of lies and now he thinks he can too.",
">\n\nMaybe the left is missing the message here. Run as republican, be outraged by all the silly shit that Ra yell at, but then vote leftwing.\nPretend to be a right-wing nut job, but vote left",
">\n\nBecause this is how you get elected and get a fuckton of money, obviously. It's easy to do. Look at Musk and Trump - also previously non-nationalists (but always grifters) capitalizing on the rightzis' lunacy and hysteria. 'Pay me if you want to survive the assault on white identity and religion' is a ~~powerful~~ profitable message.",
">\n\nR/conservative",
">\n\nCon-men have no political philosophies, just scams.",
">\n\nThese fucks just want fame. They don’t care which side they’re on, just as long as they see themselves in the paper, on the news and internet. Narcissists.",
">\n\nHe wasn’t a “Leftist” but he certainly has all the familiar traits of a sociopathic Conservative. Georgieboi will say and do anything to get what he wants. It is your stereotypical malignant Narcissist.",
">\n\nSleeper agent?",
">\n\nThe reason for “this crazy thing” is called money. He was obviously bought by some group to run as a gay republican to get votes in a contested district, and it worked. All efforts should be put in it tracking down who paid him to do this and creating strong ethical standards for elected officials",
">\n\nI can guarantee you he didn't just recently turn crazy",
">\n\nIf the song was about Santos, it basically would have been I met a drag queen, she was horrible, I went somewhere else.",
">\n\nI'm gonna channel my inner Obi Wan and ask who's more foolish, the fool, or the fool who votes for him?",
">\n\nThis is how politics works in the US. Hasan and his uncle Cenk talk about this all the time. Going the right wing route is a way more profitable route. For a lot of them its just a grift. The marks/voters are an extremely manipulable bunch, and the funders (billionaires/corporations) have big pockets",
">\n\nHonestly, I think this guy is awesome. Taking the republican clown archetype to the absolute extreme and exposing just how corrupt and ridiculous they are as they fumble to continue supporting him.",
">\n\nDiamond and Silk were rabid left wingers until they realized the grift opportunities were much better on the other side.",
">\n\n🎶🎶 Money money money, must be funny, in a rich man's world. 🎶🎶🎶🎶",
">\n\nThe USA- where literally anyone can come and become a right wing biggot.",
">\n\nStick that man's brain in a pigeon and it will fly backwards...",
">\n\nHe is nothing but an opportunist.",
">\n\nWe really need to see this guy’s birth certificate.",
">\n\nThe oppo researchers in the NY Democratic Party should be sacked. Honestly. How the hell did this guy get through a whole campaign without this coming out?",
">\n\nIt did come out. And local press covered it. It’s just that nobody gave a shit…",
">\n\nCrazy thing = scam artist and probable Russian plant",
">\n\nMy guess is he’s always been a pathological liar and doesn’t have any convictions or principles",
">\n\nHe never supported anything except his own enrichment. The guy is a psycho and always has been.",
">\n\nIs it that odd? I do believe a number of current conservatives both in the media and in politics were at one point pretty liberal, but when they found out they couldn't make money off it, they went to the right.",
">\n\nGrift is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nI don't think he actually believes his own shit, but I do wonder if he is being paid off by a foreign power to help destabilize the US",
">\n\nBasically one-upping Kyrsten Sinema",
">\n\nWhy is he not being recalled by his district ?",
">\n\nWhose payroll is he on?",
">\n\nI just wish this article was about Matt Gaetz",
">\n\nSimilar to people like Trump or Candice Owens. These people have no ideology just the grift path of least resistance.",
">\n\nAll these formerly hidden fun facts about ol' George here are sooo interesting. He's just a never-ending fount of delightful surprises!\nP.S. Did you know that George Santos lassos rampaging bulls with his penis?",
">\n\nYeah, he probably lied about all that too",
">\n\nDamn, I never thought anyone on the republican team could do their makeup better than Trump, but I was wrong!",
">\n\nSir Lies a lot",
">\n\nHe didn’t change. He was always a liar. I wouldn’t be shocked if he was a straight up\nPsychopath.",
">\n\nPrevious Jobs Drag Artist…\nRepublicans: i think we can be a good match and we have a job offer for you.",
">\n\nPlease can someone make a visual timeline of this man’s life and lies? It’s so complicated that I can’t understand the full history of when he showed up in politics and the claims he’s made. It’s too convoluted to comprehend. I need bullet points. Or drawrings.",
">\n\nWho is this guy? Like he could be some sleeper agent",
">\n\nso he's clearly either an opportunist, or a legit crazy person... or both",
">\n\nThis story doesn’t even seem real.",
">\n\n“Article I, Section 2, Clause 2: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.”\nHow did he get into congress if you need to be a U.S. citizen for at least 7 years?",
">\n\nHe wanted progressive policies for his own country. He's happy to profit from destroying this one.",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is Glenn Greenwald?",
">\n\nI've never seen him and Kyrsten Sinema in the same room together.\nI'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'",
">\n\nWhich sounds more realistic?\n1) hundreds and hundreds of people are all lying about one person, across continents\n2) one person is lying A BUNCH.",
">\n\nI want to know if he's actually a US citizen, or if just lied about that like everything else.",
">\n\nAre we sure that \"George Santos\" is not just a Sacha Baron Cohen project at this point?",
">\n\nThis is literally full grift mode mask off. There isn't any hard evidence a guy like Dave Rubin switches to the right for money, but we all know it's true.\nThis grift has receipts.",
">\n\nHe goes where the grift is. Right now the maga crowd is so reactionary and blinded by the identity politics of the right that they don't notice their pockets being picked",
">\n\nThe crazy theory of him being actually an actor working for Sasha Baron Cohen sounds less and less crazy every day.",
">\n\nProbably just a grifter who saw where the suckers were at. People like him don't have any real political beliefs.",
">\n\nThe quote that stood out to me is “he wanted to be famous, no matter what.” He got his wish.",
">\n\nSo he’s drag Trump?",
">\n\nMany people are actually left leaning and for policies that benefit many people, all people. Until they move to the US, and are fed “patriotic” adjectives by the GOP. \nI.e. my in laws.",
">\n\nOr he just knew which party would be more receptive to grift",
">\n\nIt’s so nice to see the GOP, the party of \"facts and logic,” standing by a party member known to be so honest and truthful...",
">\n\nRepublicans need to stop endorsing con-men and Yahoos. The Republican Party is looking like some kind of Clown Party.",
">\n\nIt’s like bizarro Kyrsten Sinema… is he a democrat plant for revenge purposes? /s?",
">\n\nWhat if he's trying to infiltrate the enemy and do a double-cross and we all blew his cover?",
">\n\nAll the crazy that Russian money could buy.",
">\n\nYeah, these types of people stand for nothing.\nThey just shift into whatever the environment calls for.",
">\n\nMakes u really wonder what plans he has for any confidential information he may be privy to during his term.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to me how this happens. Like there was no real Republican that was interested in the office so they just went with this guy? Like how does it happen.",
">\n\nThis is a real republican...",
">\n\nIs he the Cousin of Ronnette Desantis from Florida???",
">\n\nThis guy is nuts. When I first saw stories of this dude I thought he looked off af. His look just didn’t fit. Like a skinwalker. And every story, including this one, has only affirmed those instincts more. Uncanny valley in the modern age.",
">\n\nHas Glenn Greenwald gotten on the case yet being an investigative journalist who lives in Brazil???",
">\n\nMan just wanted some free healthcare for life",
">\n\nEver read “Kiss of the Spider Woman?” A flamboyant gay drag queen in South America is joyfully apolitical even as the government is cracking down on people like him. This makes him an easy mark, and in return for little favors the fascists turn him into a double agent working for them instead.",
">\n\nIt’s easy to get elected if you just spew enough hate into the right people.",
">\n\nIt would be so easy to be a right wing grifter",
">\n\nHe probably got introduced to Putin by Glenn Greenwald.",
">\n\nIf this whole thing turns out to be some piece of performance art. I will admit it's impressive.",
">\n\nHe has to be friends with Glen Greenwald",
">\n\nCapitalism consumes those with a weak mind. Makes sense Santos betrayed the left and gave in to the vast wealth the conservative movement offered. Dude was an opportunist, and the GOP gullible rich assholes. Perfect marriage",
">\n\nThey love how the crazies distract the libs so much that they'll keep electing them until it's the GCP.",
">\n\nLauren Boebert was a sugar baby found through a casting website.\nThe whole plan is to make sure that tons of clown candidates break through.\nIt creates the narrative that all government is corrupt and we need a strong fascist to fix things. \"I mean, you don't see the Democrats doing anything to stop Santos or MTG or Boebert...\" they'll argue as they throw Santos out.",
">\n\n\"Crazy\" is more likely to be accepted by the Republican party, the Democrats would have turned him away.",
">\n\n\"this crazy thing\" being your standard political grifter?",
">\n\nThe Big Reveal: He is Andy Kaufman.",
">\n\nNo it's a republicans so desperate to win a seat in any district that even crazy are on the menu.",
">\n\nLike Trump and Musk, too. I guess it takes far less effort to gather and keep idiots as constituents",
">\n\nI feel at this point I need a docuseries about what the hell is going on with this guy.",
">\n\nDuh. He followed the money. So did Trump. And Candice Owens.",
">\n\nMoney is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nOut of the many characteristics he has, his most outstanding feature is his ability to lie. So he turned to the party of liars.",
">\n\nIt’s always the same shit. Some loser tried and failed to fit in with leftists because they had a shallow grasp on progressivism and were more interested with personal gain and were willing to abandon everything they claimed they stood for, all so that they can go grift and get money from conservatives making themselves out to be “one of the good ones”. Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, George santos, Jimmy dore, the list goes on.",
">\n\nWhen they can no longer defend him in the face of the mudslide of lies, they say he's a \"leftist\". Lol omg seriously? He never went anywhere as a Democrat. This idiot is a con artist pure and simple. He got elected Ted as a GOP Rep. Those are the facts.",
">\n\nJust like most of the other GOP they look at their job as entertainment and personal gain. It's all a game to them like going to Vegas.",
">\n\nWhat kind of art do they do?",
">\n\nThe American Dream.",
">\n\nTroll level: 1000",
">\n\nAnd this is the Republican Party in a nutshell. No background checks. Just wants a seat in congress!",
">\n\nThis is just like new Mexican immigrants like Paola Ramos who was right-wing in Mexico yet when they come to the U.S. they are left wing.",
">\n\nI am all for Brazilian drag artists in general, even the mendacious kind, but it's rather shocking that one could become a MAGA congressman so easily. WTF, America.",
">\n\nHe never left drag. He just changed his costume.",
">\n\nThe GOP is the way they are because of money. They have lost sight that they are actually mandated to run and improve the country. That has taken a back seat.",
">\n\nThis is what happens when there are no consequences for lying politicians",
">\n\nConservatives wanted to drag the drag queens into their culture wars and they have exceeded expectations.",
">\n\nThis man saw how easy it is to get republicans to vote for you and grifted to victory Lolol",
">\n\nIt's called \"grift\". They proclaim to be whatever brings them most benefit."
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You know… I didn’t think anybody on this planet could lie more and better than Trump.
Apparently George said “Hold my beer”
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"He knew conservatives would be the easiest marks. He was right.",
">\n\nIf I pulled a grift on Republican voters, I'd immediately flip to Democrat after winning election.\nI am reasonably confident I could continue to manipulate them even as a Democrat lmao",
">\n\nAh, the Sinema strategy.",
">\n\nNot terribly smart. Sinema might want to make money as a lobbyist after she leaves politics but she has almost no good relations with either the Democrats or GOP. Her grifter tactics are going to backfire hard",
">\n\nWhen you make more money than you can spend in a lifetime, does it matter",
">\n\nGiven her whole \"prada-socialist\" gimmick from a few years ago, I'm going to bet she has a spending problem.",
">\n\nthat article was oddly enthralling thank you",
">\n\nHaha I thought the same thing. Glad you enjoyed it",
">\n\nThe best part of this is watching the lack of integrity of his fellow republicans get exposed as they jump through hoops to keep supporting him.",
">\n\nI had the thought of \"what if that's the point of the long con\" but immediately shot that down because consistency, integrity, and appearances don't matter. Them being caught in a double standard doesn't matter.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is what the GOP is now. It's entirely filled by grifters who find some way to tap into peoples' dissatisfaction with Democrats. It has nothing to do with ideas or ideology or charisma or even anger in some cases. Mtg got in with qanon. Matt gaetz got in by having a rich dad. George Santos got in because it was a good year for Republicans in new york. And trump got in because he ran against Hillary Clinton.\nNobody cares about the results. They probably don't even care about the current trans panic. They stopped caring about the election years ago. And now they don't even care about q. \nThis is the modern republican party. And by the looks of it they overdosed on nihilism",
">\n\nI'm so exhausted living in a world with adult babies.",
">\n\nMuch prefer the diaper lovers, at least they keep to themselves.",
">\n\nHe could smell the money. It's all about the grift. Tomorrow I could start being a right wing grifter and within a year be a millionaire....\nHey, wait a minute. Excuse me...",
">\n\nMan the amount of times I have thought \"ya know if it weren't for this pesky conscience, I could be rich right now, just gotta tell the sheep what they want to hear and they will throw their money at you.\"\nBut I would feel bad about fleecing people out of their money, so I don't. Morals always getting in the way of making money...",
">\n\nIt's a problem. I couldn't live with myself.",
">\n\nRight?\nIve been tempted to start a megachurch so many times, but I would feel so horrible lying to those people to extract their money from them.",
">\n\nMaybe starting a new religion isn’t a bad thing. All religions are more like clustered philosophies and sets of rules on how to live a good life; the mythology and associated deities are secondary to that purpose\nIt wouldn’t be hard to make a new religion more ethical than Mormonism at least",
">\n\nI've had that thought, call it the Church of Autotheism, and base it around the idea we are all our own gods, in that we are responsible for our own actions, and the consequences of those actions. We are gods because we change the world every time we interact it with, no matter how minor that interaction is or how subtle the change caused is.\nThe hope being that if you make people aware of their actions and the consequences that they would choose to be good. Which is probably wishful thinking at best.",
">\n\nIt would fail as a religion\n\n\nEvery religion advocates for consequentialism. Every single one.\n\n\nThe purpose of Gods whether they be Allah, Buddha, Vishnu, Ahura Mazda, The Jade Emperor, etc. is to remind people that human beings are not Gods; that human beings are ultimately falliable and that there is a reason mankind is in a fallen state, whether it be sin, haram, desire, karma, etc. Religion doesn’t work without a direct figure of worship for this reason",
">\n\nYea I know. It doesn't come with that fear of divine or cosmic retribution that hooks people.\nCan't scare people if you whole thing is \"everything is chaos, nothing means anything, so why not try being nice to each other to make things more pleasant?\" except dressed up in theological language.",
">\n\nIsnt he wanted for some crimes back in brazil?",
">\n\nBeing an extreme right wing operative is much more profitable.",
">\n\nEspecially if you're a minority. They'll build you the biggest, most expensive pedestal you've ever seen so they can show the world \"See? We can't possibly be oppressors! Here is someone we want to oppress that agrees with us!“\nAnd when you've finally helped them accomplish their goals, you'll have the honor of being second against the wall.\nAnyway, what this guy claimed years ago and what this guy claims today simply doesn't matter. His word is worthless and trying to sort the truth from the lies is a fools errand. \nHe may not even know the answer himself.",
">\n\nRemember that even in nazi germany there were Jews agreeing, supporting, and collaborating with Hitler. Only to end up in concentration camps in the end.",
">\n\nSame reason Trump switched.\nConservatives are ripe for the taking and have zero critical thinking skills.",
">\n\nSame reason for the difference in advertisements you see in conservative media. They will buy anything. All sorts of random pills, gold scams, objective trash as seen on TV stuff, scam finance stuff, etc, etc. All of this on prime time cable. You don't see them on regular media because market research is telling advertisers that conservatives are the stupidest demographic.",
">\n\nPart of me just wants to create a non profit and milk these idiots dry and then just keep 95% of the donations for running the non profit…\nEasy money.",
">\n\n\"Ted Nugent's Fund For Repossessing Mexicans' food? Sign me the fuck up\"\nActually it's me and my bros using their money to buy all the tacos we can eat...",
">\n\nI'm so ready for this idiot to be out of the news. Can he just resign in disgrace already?",
">\n\nLol it's cute if you think politicians still resign in this day",
">\n\nDemocrats resign in disgrace. \nRepublicans just keep on doubling down to the cheers of their voters.",
">\n\nDemocrats resign over fucking nothing. \nFucking nothing makes a Republican resign.",
">\n\nI'm honestly worried Biden might resign over these documents found in his residence...",
">\n\nNot worried. The presidents daily schedule is top secret. But eventually outdated and useless info. He probably kept the schedules with his notes and didn’t think it was really an issue to people with common sense. Time will tell. Except for on Fox News.",
">\n\nSeems like he had the same \"I can make so much money grifting the idiots on the right\" idea that I've had many times.\nOnly difference is that he's actually twisted enough to go out and do it. I say I'll do it quite often, but I'm not shitty enough to go through with it.",
">\n\nI have had this thought so many times as a bilingual x missionary kid. If we ran together we could make a killing! :P",
">\n\nI was a Bible Thumper, went to Christian school.. Oh man I could tute the tune on the horn they play. Like a fucking fiddle it would be so easy.",
">\n\nChristian college here bud, join the ticket.",
">\n\nChristian high school, christian college, white with blond hair and parents are rich, and born and raised in the south. It would be sooo easy.",
">\n\nYou are invited too bud, we need a vet and we're fuckin set.",
">\n\nHell ya! Let’s put this religious trauma to use",
">\n\nI'm an old ass left coast librul and I welcome this chaos magic.",
">\n\nFantastic work, did you train a model with every George Santos picture you could find?",
">\n\nTrained w about 30 pics.",
">\n\nI'm impressed",
">\n\nCriminals recognize criminals. I’m convinced any person running with an R next to their name at this point is strictly an opportunistic grifter with zero interest in governing",
">\n\nWas this comment written in the late 1980's. Ronald Reagan...",
">\n\nThe precise moment productivity and wages set off on their separate journeys and never spoke again.",
">\n\nAww come on that money gonna trickle down any year now...",
">\n\nProof that anyone that can lie can be an elected republican",
">\n\nDude, it’s getting sad at this point.\nIt’s blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention, and I hate to say it because again it makes me sad, but conservatives are rubes. These people have progressively seen how gullible they are and now there’s a feeding frenzy. \nThey smelled blood in the water when they saw Trump’s popularity rose prior to the 2016 election and they haven’t stopped since.",
">\n\n\"If that idiot can grift so can I\"",
">\n\nImagine if we took money out of politics and politicians were only working for the betterment of the people. We wouldn't have nearly as many of these stories where a conservative person is looking down on or doing something they say they're against.\nShit, if our politicians weren't suckling the teat of the rich we would likely have healthcare, people would be fed, and this manufactured inflation that's making us all poorer would have been nipped I'm the bud back when they first thought they could pull one over on the working class. \nInstead, we just get the stick.",
">\n\nTake the excess campaign dollars out of it. Don’t allow ANY money to be donated. Let every candidate start with the same dollar amount, maybe 5-10 million raised from donations and use it for expenses as they tour across the country, meeting the voters. Once the campaign money is gone, it’s gone. A bipartisan site online could accept the donations for any candidate and keep a running total of money received. Have TV debates, with the understanding that anyone breaking the rules will be immediately muted, and asked to leave. Have town hall meetings. Get politics back to the PEOPLE, to grassroots campaigns that don’t spend $100 million on one candidate. It levels the playing field for anyone to run that can raise $10 million through grassroots efforts. No politician should be beholden to huge campaign contributors. Do away with lobbying! Our country can be run better by a humanitarian,and a great administration of extremely qualified individuals. Military, Finance, Social issues, Education, Intelligence, Veterans issues, etc. we have to change the way the US is run, including elections. The richest people in the country are BUYING politicians…something the majority of the country can’t compete in, and don’t want to compete in. It would be wonderful to start voting in people based on their intelligence, their character, and their history and background. People who were overachievers in high school, college, and work. Vetting for every candidate, and any negative findings that are related to morals is disqualifying. Whoever is running this country need to be above reproach. Maybe Hakeem Jeffries, who has a great track record and is younger and more enthusiastic that anyone in the Republican Party He’s done so much for his constituents, that it’s obvious he’s a good man , and very intelligent",
">\n\nI agree with everything you said except the Hakeem Jeffries part. He takes tons of campaign bribes from multiple industries. There are democrats in the house of representatives with much cleaner records than him.",
">\n\nSantos is whoever he needs to be to pull a scam.",
">\n\nHe didn't didn't run on a whim. Someone \"encouraged\" him. Trace the origin of his money.",
">\n\nTrump has been a registered Democrat, Reformer & Republican.\nGrifters go where the money is at.",
">\n\nbeing a republican politician is basically an extremely immoral form of drag when you think about it.",
">\n\nI am now convinced that he got all of his money from the Republican party. I'm convinced that they knew he was lying all along, and they did whatever they could to get him elected. Why? Because he provides a really good distraction. While we're all watching the George Santos show, the Republicans are quietly destroying democracy.",
">\n\nHe knew it would be easy to fool a bunch of conservatives, and unfortunately he was right. Bunch of easy marks.",
">\n\nWhenever I run across a gay Republican (and they are definitely out there) I immediately assume they’re a sociopath.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian, who's perpetually befuddled by American politics, I'm amazed that someone with that gay of a face is flashing white power symbols.",
">\n\nIs George even Tony’s real name?",
">\n\nHe didn't just pop up out of nowhere and win a race all on his own. Someone chose him to be the front-man, organized, and paid for his campaign. Be interesting to find out who that was.",
">\n\nThis dude is a distraction. I’m not super into politics but I have a feeling that someone is doing some really shady shit and it being overlooked for this low hanging piece of shit.",
">\n\nIs it just me or are right wingers their own unique brand of especially gullible marks? I mean, scams don't have a political leaning but there's a lot of ways to make money selling explicitly right wing nonsense.",
">\n\nSo basically, New York elected Borat to Congress.",
">\n\nRepublicans elected him to congress",
">\n\nNo not at all, he won the Long Island district that almost always votes democrat. But it’s got a large Jewish population so he lied about being Jewish.",
">\n\nLong Islanders continue to be the stupidest fucking people",
">\n\nI'm still grappling with the fact that people care more about when he dressed up in costume as a different gender, rather than the extensive lies about his credentials.",
">\n\nI don't think \"they\" do. I.e. I think most normal people realize all that other shit is waaay worse. But everyone is wondering what the deal-breaker will be for the GOP, and you'd think that'd be proof he was a drag queen, hence the attention that's getting.\nIOW it's just evidence of how low our expectations are of the Republicans.",
">\n\nIf only I was shameless and doesn't care how much people will hate me, I definitely would run for a republican office.",
">\n\nIf you’re a conman trying to get money from political campaigns conservatives are an easy mark.",
">\n\nThere's a reason people right-wing grift. Easy money. It's also why the left-wing grift isn't a thing.",
">\n\nI’m noticing a trend with all these right wing psychos, there’s a whole lot of South Americans and Cubans in their ranks.",
">\n\nI knew the water circled the drain differently when crossing the equator, but this is ridiculous.",
">\n\nThis thread doesn't deserve your comment.",
">\n\nHe saw how gullible the Right is and how to exploit them for $",
">\n\nHe's not right or left. He's a con man. And the smart voters in NY actually voted him into office. Maybe do some research before you vote and don't vote along party lines.",
">\n\nIt’s just the last part, and they won’t.",
">\n\nMaybe he is a Trojan horse",
">\n\nOr a Trojan rep",
">\n\nHe did what Trump did, realized who the stupid people were and joined their side.",
">\n\nIs this dude getting cawthorned? Do Republicans make them go and commit kompromat before they support them?",
">\n\nThis will be the thing that really angers the Right....",
">\n\nGeorge Santo is a Lizard Person e.g. a Chameleon changing to his current environment in order to survive and prosper.",
">\n\nSome people flip flop between political extremes. On a rare occation it means they have an open mind. More often than not, they are just fools, though.",
">\n\nIt is so tragic that his family was in the holocaust and his mother died at the towers on 911",
">\n\nPure sociopath wil say anything to anyone",
">\n\nYou mean turn into a Russian agent for money and power beyond his imagination to hurt a country he didn't give a flying rat's ass about? He's not even a traitor - he's just working for Papa Putin to fuck the Americans.",
">\n\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent",
">\n\nOpportunistic Brazilian ConArtist",
">\n\nThis just goes to show why vetting processes need to happen before someone is elected",
">\n\nHe's one of those, like Trump, that is whatever is most convenient at that moment. Not really anything at all when you cut down to the deepest layer. \nTrump and Hillary were such friends that he invited her to his wedding. Years later, he's this alt-right champion. It's ridiculous and barely covers the fact that he will play any side that benefits him. Just like this boy Santos. Both sociopathic liars with fragile egos and shaky claims to any thing remotely verifiable as truth.",
">\n\nUndiagnosed personality disorders are all around us.",
">\n\nSays a lot about George Santos that I believe a random Drag Artist in Brazil over the elected politician George Santos \nCaveat, Not that I wouldnt believe something a person says (drag artist or not), but if random people came out on the internet and said, “Trump randomly said to me one time he loves Democrat policies and was a huge Obama fan” I’d be like, “Okay, random person, Trumps a shitty person but I doubt that.” George Santos is such a fucking liar I’m like, “She probably telling the truth”",
">\n\nEvery day this looks more like a borat movie in real life.",
">\n\nIF America had rejected tRump, this pathological liar, wouldn't be here now.",
">\n\nI don't know about everyone else but I'm starting to think that this guy might not be the most trustworthy",
">\n\nWho is this person? He fooled so many.",
">\n\nHe saw a reality tv star play a role upon a mountain of lies and now he thinks he can too.",
">\n\nMaybe the left is missing the message here. Run as republican, be outraged by all the silly shit that Ra yell at, but then vote leftwing.\nPretend to be a right-wing nut job, but vote left",
">\n\nBecause this is how you get elected and get a fuckton of money, obviously. It's easy to do. Look at Musk and Trump - also previously non-nationalists (but always grifters) capitalizing on the rightzis' lunacy and hysteria. 'Pay me if you want to survive the assault on white identity and religion' is a ~~powerful~~ profitable message.",
">\n\nR/conservative",
">\n\nCon-men have no political philosophies, just scams.",
">\n\nThese fucks just want fame. They don’t care which side they’re on, just as long as they see themselves in the paper, on the news and internet. Narcissists.",
">\n\nHe wasn’t a “Leftist” but he certainly has all the familiar traits of a sociopathic Conservative. Georgieboi will say and do anything to get what he wants. It is your stereotypical malignant Narcissist.",
">\n\nSleeper agent?",
">\n\nThe reason for “this crazy thing” is called money. He was obviously bought by some group to run as a gay republican to get votes in a contested district, and it worked. All efforts should be put in it tracking down who paid him to do this and creating strong ethical standards for elected officials",
">\n\nI can guarantee you he didn't just recently turn crazy",
">\n\nIf the song was about Santos, it basically would have been I met a drag queen, she was horrible, I went somewhere else.",
">\n\nI'm gonna channel my inner Obi Wan and ask who's more foolish, the fool, or the fool who votes for him?",
">\n\nThis is how politics works in the US. Hasan and his uncle Cenk talk about this all the time. Going the right wing route is a way more profitable route. For a lot of them its just a grift. The marks/voters are an extremely manipulable bunch, and the funders (billionaires/corporations) have big pockets",
">\n\nHonestly, I think this guy is awesome. Taking the republican clown archetype to the absolute extreme and exposing just how corrupt and ridiculous they are as they fumble to continue supporting him.",
">\n\nDiamond and Silk were rabid left wingers until they realized the grift opportunities were much better on the other side.",
">\n\n🎶🎶 Money money money, must be funny, in a rich man's world. 🎶🎶🎶🎶",
">\n\nThe USA- where literally anyone can come and become a right wing biggot.",
">\n\nStick that man's brain in a pigeon and it will fly backwards...",
">\n\nHe is nothing but an opportunist.",
">\n\nWe really need to see this guy’s birth certificate.",
">\n\nThe oppo researchers in the NY Democratic Party should be sacked. Honestly. How the hell did this guy get through a whole campaign without this coming out?",
">\n\nIt did come out. And local press covered it. It’s just that nobody gave a shit…",
">\n\nCrazy thing = scam artist and probable Russian plant",
">\n\nMy guess is he’s always been a pathological liar and doesn’t have any convictions or principles",
">\n\nHe never supported anything except his own enrichment. The guy is a psycho and always has been.",
">\n\nIs it that odd? I do believe a number of current conservatives both in the media and in politics were at one point pretty liberal, but when they found out they couldn't make money off it, they went to the right.",
">\n\nGrift is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nI don't think he actually believes his own shit, but I do wonder if he is being paid off by a foreign power to help destabilize the US",
">\n\nBasically one-upping Kyrsten Sinema",
">\n\nWhy is he not being recalled by his district ?",
">\n\nWhose payroll is he on?",
">\n\nI just wish this article was about Matt Gaetz",
">\n\nSimilar to people like Trump or Candice Owens. These people have no ideology just the grift path of least resistance.",
">\n\nAll these formerly hidden fun facts about ol' George here are sooo interesting. He's just a never-ending fount of delightful surprises!\nP.S. Did you know that George Santos lassos rampaging bulls with his penis?",
">\n\nYeah, he probably lied about all that too",
">\n\nDamn, I never thought anyone on the republican team could do their makeup better than Trump, but I was wrong!",
">\n\nSir Lies a lot",
">\n\nHe didn’t change. He was always a liar. I wouldn’t be shocked if he was a straight up\nPsychopath.",
">\n\nPrevious Jobs Drag Artist…\nRepublicans: i think we can be a good match and we have a job offer for you.",
">\n\nPlease can someone make a visual timeline of this man’s life and lies? It’s so complicated that I can’t understand the full history of when he showed up in politics and the claims he’s made. It’s too convoluted to comprehend. I need bullet points. Or drawrings.",
">\n\nWho is this guy? Like he could be some sleeper agent",
">\n\nso he's clearly either an opportunist, or a legit crazy person... or both",
">\n\nThis story doesn’t even seem real.",
">\n\n“Article I, Section 2, Clause 2: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.”\nHow did he get into congress if you need to be a U.S. citizen for at least 7 years?",
">\n\nHe wanted progressive policies for his own country. He's happy to profit from destroying this one.",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is Glenn Greenwald?",
">\n\nI've never seen him and Kyrsten Sinema in the same room together.\nI'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'",
">\n\nWhich sounds more realistic?\n1) hundreds and hundreds of people are all lying about one person, across continents\n2) one person is lying A BUNCH.",
">\n\nI want to know if he's actually a US citizen, or if just lied about that like everything else.",
">\n\nAre we sure that \"George Santos\" is not just a Sacha Baron Cohen project at this point?",
">\n\nThis is literally full grift mode mask off. There isn't any hard evidence a guy like Dave Rubin switches to the right for money, but we all know it's true.\nThis grift has receipts.",
">\n\nHe goes where the grift is. Right now the maga crowd is so reactionary and blinded by the identity politics of the right that they don't notice their pockets being picked",
">\n\nThe crazy theory of him being actually an actor working for Sasha Baron Cohen sounds less and less crazy every day.",
">\n\nProbably just a grifter who saw where the suckers were at. People like him don't have any real political beliefs.",
">\n\nThe quote that stood out to me is “he wanted to be famous, no matter what.” He got his wish.",
">\n\nSo he’s drag Trump?",
">\n\nMany people are actually left leaning and for policies that benefit many people, all people. Until they move to the US, and are fed “patriotic” adjectives by the GOP. \nI.e. my in laws.",
">\n\nOr he just knew which party would be more receptive to grift",
">\n\nIt’s so nice to see the GOP, the party of \"facts and logic,” standing by a party member known to be so honest and truthful...",
">\n\nRepublicans need to stop endorsing con-men and Yahoos. The Republican Party is looking like some kind of Clown Party.",
">\n\nIt’s like bizarro Kyrsten Sinema… is he a democrat plant for revenge purposes? /s?",
">\n\nWhat if he's trying to infiltrate the enemy and do a double-cross and we all blew his cover?",
">\n\nAll the crazy that Russian money could buy.",
">\n\nYeah, these types of people stand for nothing.\nThey just shift into whatever the environment calls for.",
">\n\nMakes u really wonder what plans he has for any confidential information he may be privy to during his term.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to me how this happens. Like there was no real Republican that was interested in the office so they just went with this guy? Like how does it happen.",
">\n\nThis is a real republican...",
">\n\nIs he the Cousin of Ronnette Desantis from Florida???",
">\n\nThis guy is nuts. When I first saw stories of this dude I thought he looked off af. His look just didn’t fit. Like a skinwalker. And every story, including this one, has only affirmed those instincts more. Uncanny valley in the modern age.",
">\n\nHas Glenn Greenwald gotten on the case yet being an investigative journalist who lives in Brazil???",
">\n\nMan just wanted some free healthcare for life",
">\n\nEver read “Kiss of the Spider Woman?” A flamboyant gay drag queen in South America is joyfully apolitical even as the government is cracking down on people like him. This makes him an easy mark, and in return for little favors the fascists turn him into a double agent working for them instead.",
">\n\nIt’s easy to get elected if you just spew enough hate into the right people.",
">\n\nIt would be so easy to be a right wing grifter",
">\n\nHe probably got introduced to Putin by Glenn Greenwald.",
">\n\nIf this whole thing turns out to be some piece of performance art. I will admit it's impressive.",
">\n\nHe has to be friends with Glen Greenwald",
">\n\nCapitalism consumes those with a weak mind. Makes sense Santos betrayed the left and gave in to the vast wealth the conservative movement offered. Dude was an opportunist, and the GOP gullible rich assholes. Perfect marriage",
">\n\nThey love how the crazies distract the libs so much that they'll keep electing them until it's the GCP.",
">\n\nLauren Boebert was a sugar baby found through a casting website.\nThe whole plan is to make sure that tons of clown candidates break through.\nIt creates the narrative that all government is corrupt and we need a strong fascist to fix things. \"I mean, you don't see the Democrats doing anything to stop Santos or MTG or Boebert...\" they'll argue as they throw Santos out.",
">\n\n\"Crazy\" is more likely to be accepted by the Republican party, the Democrats would have turned him away.",
">\n\n\"this crazy thing\" being your standard political grifter?",
">\n\nThe Big Reveal: He is Andy Kaufman.",
">\n\nNo it's a republicans so desperate to win a seat in any district that even crazy are on the menu.",
">\n\nLike Trump and Musk, too. I guess it takes far less effort to gather and keep idiots as constituents",
">\n\nI feel at this point I need a docuseries about what the hell is going on with this guy.",
">\n\nDuh. He followed the money. So did Trump. And Candice Owens.",
">\n\nMoney is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nOut of the many characteristics he has, his most outstanding feature is his ability to lie. So he turned to the party of liars.",
">\n\nIt’s always the same shit. Some loser tried and failed to fit in with leftists because they had a shallow grasp on progressivism and were more interested with personal gain and were willing to abandon everything they claimed they stood for, all so that they can go grift and get money from conservatives making themselves out to be “one of the good ones”. Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, George santos, Jimmy dore, the list goes on.",
">\n\nWhen they can no longer defend him in the face of the mudslide of lies, they say he's a \"leftist\". Lol omg seriously? He never went anywhere as a Democrat. This idiot is a con artist pure and simple. He got elected Ted as a GOP Rep. Those are the facts.",
">\n\nJust like most of the other GOP they look at their job as entertainment and personal gain. It's all a game to them like going to Vegas.",
">\n\nWhat kind of art do they do?",
">\n\nThe American Dream.",
">\n\nTroll level: 1000",
">\n\nAnd this is the Republican Party in a nutshell. No background checks. Just wants a seat in congress!",
">\n\nThis is just like new Mexican immigrants like Paola Ramos who was right-wing in Mexico yet when they come to the U.S. they are left wing.",
">\n\nI am all for Brazilian drag artists in general, even the mendacious kind, but it's rather shocking that one could become a MAGA congressman so easily. WTF, America.",
">\n\nHe never left drag. He just changed his costume.",
">\n\nThe GOP is the way they are because of money. They have lost sight that they are actually mandated to run and improve the country. That has taken a back seat.",
">\n\nThis is what happens when there are no consequences for lying politicians",
">\n\nConservatives wanted to drag the drag queens into their culture wars and they have exceeded expectations.",
">\n\nThis man saw how easy it is to get republicans to vote for you and grifted to victory Lolol",
">\n\nIt's called \"grift\". They proclaim to be whatever brings them most benefit.",
">\n\nSantos is anything he feels people need to fit in. Heck Santos was awarded one Congressional Medal of Honor and just returned from a Mars exploration - all for sucking dick!"
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"He knew conservatives would be the easiest marks. He was right.",
">\n\nIf I pulled a grift on Republican voters, I'd immediately flip to Democrat after winning election.\nI am reasonably confident I could continue to manipulate them even as a Democrat lmao",
">\n\nAh, the Sinema strategy.",
">\n\nNot terribly smart. Sinema might want to make money as a lobbyist after she leaves politics but she has almost no good relations with either the Democrats or GOP. Her grifter tactics are going to backfire hard",
">\n\nWhen you make more money than you can spend in a lifetime, does it matter",
">\n\nGiven her whole \"prada-socialist\" gimmick from a few years ago, I'm going to bet she has a spending problem.",
">\n\nthat article was oddly enthralling thank you",
">\n\nHaha I thought the same thing. Glad you enjoyed it",
">\n\nThe best part of this is watching the lack of integrity of his fellow republicans get exposed as they jump through hoops to keep supporting him.",
">\n\nI had the thought of \"what if that's the point of the long con\" but immediately shot that down because consistency, integrity, and appearances don't matter. Them being caught in a double standard doesn't matter.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is what the GOP is now. It's entirely filled by grifters who find some way to tap into peoples' dissatisfaction with Democrats. It has nothing to do with ideas or ideology or charisma or even anger in some cases. Mtg got in with qanon. Matt gaetz got in by having a rich dad. George Santos got in because it was a good year for Republicans in new york. And trump got in because he ran against Hillary Clinton.\nNobody cares about the results. They probably don't even care about the current trans panic. They stopped caring about the election years ago. And now they don't even care about q. \nThis is the modern republican party. And by the looks of it they overdosed on nihilism",
">\n\nI'm so exhausted living in a world with adult babies.",
">\n\nMuch prefer the diaper lovers, at least they keep to themselves.",
">\n\nHe could smell the money. It's all about the grift. Tomorrow I could start being a right wing grifter and within a year be a millionaire....\nHey, wait a minute. Excuse me...",
">\n\nMan the amount of times I have thought \"ya know if it weren't for this pesky conscience, I could be rich right now, just gotta tell the sheep what they want to hear and they will throw their money at you.\"\nBut I would feel bad about fleecing people out of their money, so I don't. Morals always getting in the way of making money...",
">\n\nIt's a problem. I couldn't live with myself.",
">\n\nRight?\nIve been tempted to start a megachurch so many times, but I would feel so horrible lying to those people to extract their money from them.",
">\n\nMaybe starting a new religion isn’t a bad thing. All religions are more like clustered philosophies and sets of rules on how to live a good life; the mythology and associated deities are secondary to that purpose\nIt wouldn’t be hard to make a new religion more ethical than Mormonism at least",
">\n\nI've had that thought, call it the Church of Autotheism, and base it around the idea we are all our own gods, in that we are responsible for our own actions, and the consequences of those actions. We are gods because we change the world every time we interact it with, no matter how minor that interaction is or how subtle the change caused is.\nThe hope being that if you make people aware of their actions and the consequences that they would choose to be good. Which is probably wishful thinking at best.",
">\n\nIt would fail as a religion\n\n\nEvery religion advocates for consequentialism. Every single one.\n\n\nThe purpose of Gods whether they be Allah, Buddha, Vishnu, Ahura Mazda, The Jade Emperor, etc. is to remind people that human beings are not Gods; that human beings are ultimately falliable and that there is a reason mankind is in a fallen state, whether it be sin, haram, desire, karma, etc. Religion doesn’t work without a direct figure of worship for this reason",
">\n\nYea I know. It doesn't come with that fear of divine or cosmic retribution that hooks people.\nCan't scare people if you whole thing is \"everything is chaos, nothing means anything, so why not try being nice to each other to make things more pleasant?\" except dressed up in theological language.",
">\n\nIsnt he wanted for some crimes back in brazil?",
">\n\nBeing an extreme right wing operative is much more profitable.",
">\n\nEspecially if you're a minority. They'll build you the biggest, most expensive pedestal you've ever seen so they can show the world \"See? We can't possibly be oppressors! Here is someone we want to oppress that agrees with us!“\nAnd when you've finally helped them accomplish their goals, you'll have the honor of being second against the wall.\nAnyway, what this guy claimed years ago and what this guy claims today simply doesn't matter. His word is worthless and trying to sort the truth from the lies is a fools errand. \nHe may not even know the answer himself.",
">\n\nRemember that even in nazi germany there were Jews agreeing, supporting, and collaborating with Hitler. Only to end up in concentration camps in the end.",
">\n\nSame reason Trump switched.\nConservatives are ripe for the taking and have zero critical thinking skills.",
">\n\nSame reason for the difference in advertisements you see in conservative media. They will buy anything. All sorts of random pills, gold scams, objective trash as seen on TV stuff, scam finance stuff, etc, etc. All of this on prime time cable. You don't see them on regular media because market research is telling advertisers that conservatives are the stupidest demographic.",
">\n\nPart of me just wants to create a non profit and milk these idiots dry and then just keep 95% of the donations for running the non profit…\nEasy money.",
">\n\n\"Ted Nugent's Fund For Repossessing Mexicans' food? Sign me the fuck up\"\nActually it's me and my bros using their money to buy all the tacos we can eat...",
">\n\nI'm so ready for this idiot to be out of the news. Can he just resign in disgrace already?",
">\n\nLol it's cute if you think politicians still resign in this day",
">\n\nDemocrats resign in disgrace. \nRepublicans just keep on doubling down to the cheers of their voters.",
">\n\nDemocrats resign over fucking nothing. \nFucking nothing makes a Republican resign.",
">\n\nI'm honestly worried Biden might resign over these documents found in his residence...",
">\n\nNot worried. The presidents daily schedule is top secret. But eventually outdated and useless info. He probably kept the schedules with his notes and didn’t think it was really an issue to people with common sense. Time will tell. Except for on Fox News.",
">\n\nSeems like he had the same \"I can make so much money grifting the idiots on the right\" idea that I've had many times.\nOnly difference is that he's actually twisted enough to go out and do it. I say I'll do it quite often, but I'm not shitty enough to go through with it.",
">\n\nI have had this thought so many times as a bilingual x missionary kid. If we ran together we could make a killing! :P",
">\n\nI was a Bible Thumper, went to Christian school.. Oh man I could tute the tune on the horn they play. Like a fucking fiddle it would be so easy.",
">\n\nChristian college here bud, join the ticket.",
">\n\nChristian high school, christian college, white with blond hair and parents are rich, and born and raised in the south. It would be sooo easy.",
">\n\nYou are invited too bud, we need a vet and we're fuckin set.",
">\n\nHell ya! Let’s put this religious trauma to use",
">\n\nI'm an old ass left coast librul and I welcome this chaos magic.",
">\n\nFantastic work, did you train a model with every George Santos picture you could find?",
">\n\nTrained w about 30 pics.",
">\n\nI'm impressed",
">\n\nCriminals recognize criminals. I’m convinced any person running with an R next to their name at this point is strictly an opportunistic grifter with zero interest in governing",
">\n\nWas this comment written in the late 1980's. Ronald Reagan...",
">\n\nThe precise moment productivity and wages set off on their separate journeys and never spoke again.",
">\n\nAww come on that money gonna trickle down any year now...",
">\n\nProof that anyone that can lie can be an elected republican",
">\n\nDude, it’s getting sad at this point.\nIt’s blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention, and I hate to say it because again it makes me sad, but conservatives are rubes. These people have progressively seen how gullible they are and now there’s a feeding frenzy. \nThey smelled blood in the water when they saw Trump’s popularity rose prior to the 2016 election and they haven’t stopped since.",
">\n\n\"If that idiot can grift so can I\"",
">\n\nImagine if we took money out of politics and politicians were only working for the betterment of the people. We wouldn't have nearly as many of these stories where a conservative person is looking down on or doing something they say they're against.\nShit, if our politicians weren't suckling the teat of the rich we would likely have healthcare, people would be fed, and this manufactured inflation that's making us all poorer would have been nipped I'm the bud back when they first thought they could pull one over on the working class. \nInstead, we just get the stick.",
">\n\nTake the excess campaign dollars out of it. Don’t allow ANY money to be donated. Let every candidate start with the same dollar amount, maybe 5-10 million raised from donations and use it for expenses as they tour across the country, meeting the voters. Once the campaign money is gone, it’s gone. A bipartisan site online could accept the donations for any candidate and keep a running total of money received. Have TV debates, with the understanding that anyone breaking the rules will be immediately muted, and asked to leave. Have town hall meetings. Get politics back to the PEOPLE, to grassroots campaigns that don’t spend $100 million on one candidate. It levels the playing field for anyone to run that can raise $10 million through grassroots efforts. No politician should be beholden to huge campaign contributors. Do away with lobbying! Our country can be run better by a humanitarian,and a great administration of extremely qualified individuals. Military, Finance, Social issues, Education, Intelligence, Veterans issues, etc. we have to change the way the US is run, including elections. The richest people in the country are BUYING politicians…something the majority of the country can’t compete in, and don’t want to compete in. It would be wonderful to start voting in people based on their intelligence, their character, and their history and background. People who were overachievers in high school, college, and work. Vetting for every candidate, and any negative findings that are related to morals is disqualifying. Whoever is running this country need to be above reproach. Maybe Hakeem Jeffries, who has a great track record and is younger and more enthusiastic that anyone in the Republican Party He’s done so much for his constituents, that it’s obvious he’s a good man , and very intelligent",
">\n\nI agree with everything you said except the Hakeem Jeffries part. He takes tons of campaign bribes from multiple industries. There are democrats in the house of representatives with much cleaner records than him.",
">\n\nSantos is whoever he needs to be to pull a scam.",
">\n\nHe didn't didn't run on a whim. Someone \"encouraged\" him. Trace the origin of his money.",
">\n\nTrump has been a registered Democrat, Reformer & Republican.\nGrifters go where the money is at.",
">\n\nbeing a republican politician is basically an extremely immoral form of drag when you think about it.",
">\n\nI am now convinced that he got all of his money from the Republican party. I'm convinced that they knew he was lying all along, and they did whatever they could to get him elected. Why? Because he provides a really good distraction. While we're all watching the George Santos show, the Republicans are quietly destroying democracy.",
">\n\nHe knew it would be easy to fool a bunch of conservatives, and unfortunately he was right. Bunch of easy marks.",
">\n\nWhenever I run across a gay Republican (and they are definitely out there) I immediately assume they’re a sociopath.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian, who's perpetually befuddled by American politics, I'm amazed that someone with that gay of a face is flashing white power symbols.",
">\n\nIs George even Tony’s real name?",
">\n\nHe didn't just pop up out of nowhere and win a race all on his own. Someone chose him to be the front-man, organized, and paid for his campaign. Be interesting to find out who that was.",
">\n\nThis dude is a distraction. I’m not super into politics but I have a feeling that someone is doing some really shady shit and it being overlooked for this low hanging piece of shit.",
">\n\nIs it just me or are right wingers their own unique brand of especially gullible marks? I mean, scams don't have a political leaning but there's a lot of ways to make money selling explicitly right wing nonsense.",
">\n\nSo basically, New York elected Borat to Congress.",
">\n\nRepublicans elected him to congress",
">\n\nNo not at all, he won the Long Island district that almost always votes democrat. But it’s got a large Jewish population so he lied about being Jewish.",
">\n\nLong Islanders continue to be the stupidest fucking people",
">\n\nI'm still grappling with the fact that people care more about when he dressed up in costume as a different gender, rather than the extensive lies about his credentials.",
">\n\nI don't think \"they\" do. I.e. I think most normal people realize all that other shit is waaay worse. But everyone is wondering what the deal-breaker will be for the GOP, and you'd think that'd be proof he was a drag queen, hence the attention that's getting.\nIOW it's just evidence of how low our expectations are of the Republicans.",
">\n\nIf only I was shameless and doesn't care how much people will hate me, I definitely would run for a republican office.",
">\n\nIf you’re a conman trying to get money from political campaigns conservatives are an easy mark.",
">\n\nThere's a reason people right-wing grift. Easy money. It's also why the left-wing grift isn't a thing.",
">\n\nI’m noticing a trend with all these right wing psychos, there’s a whole lot of South Americans and Cubans in their ranks.",
">\n\nI knew the water circled the drain differently when crossing the equator, but this is ridiculous.",
">\n\nThis thread doesn't deserve your comment.",
">\n\nHe saw how gullible the Right is and how to exploit them for $",
">\n\nHe's not right or left. He's a con man. And the smart voters in NY actually voted him into office. Maybe do some research before you vote and don't vote along party lines.",
">\n\nIt’s just the last part, and they won’t.",
">\n\nMaybe he is a Trojan horse",
">\n\nOr a Trojan rep",
">\n\nHe did what Trump did, realized who the stupid people were and joined their side.",
">\n\nIs this dude getting cawthorned? Do Republicans make them go and commit kompromat before they support them?",
">\n\nThis will be the thing that really angers the Right....",
">\n\nGeorge Santo is a Lizard Person e.g. a Chameleon changing to his current environment in order to survive and prosper.",
">\n\nSome people flip flop between political extremes. On a rare occation it means they have an open mind. More often than not, they are just fools, though.",
">\n\nIt is so tragic that his family was in the holocaust and his mother died at the towers on 911",
">\n\nPure sociopath wil say anything to anyone",
">\n\nYou mean turn into a Russian agent for money and power beyond his imagination to hurt a country he didn't give a flying rat's ass about? He's not even a traitor - he's just working for Papa Putin to fuck the Americans.",
">\n\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent",
">\n\nOpportunistic Brazilian ConArtist",
">\n\nThis just goes to show why vetting processes need to happen before someone is elected",
">\n\nHe's one of those, like Trump, that is whatever is most convenient at that moment. Not really anything at all when you cut down to the deepest layer. \nTrump and Hillary were such friends that he invited her to his wedding. Years later, he's this alt-right champion. It's ridiculous and barely covers the fact that he will play any side that benefits him. Just like this boy Santos. Both sociopathic liars with fragile egos and shaky claims to any thing remotely verifiable as truth.",
">\n\nUndiagnosed personality disorders are all around us.",
">\n\nSays a lot about George Santos that I believe a random Drag Artist in Brazil over the elected politician George Santos \nCaveat, Not that I wouldnt believe something a person says (drag artist or not), but if random people came out on the internet and said, “Trump randomly said to me one time he loves Democrat policies and was a huge Obama fan” I’d be like, “Okay, random person, Trumps a shitty person but I doubt that.” George Santos is such a fucking liar I’m like, “She probably telling the truth”",
">\n\nEvery day this looks more like a borat movie in real life.",
">\n\nIF America had rejected tRump, this pathological liar, wouldn't be here now.",
">\n\nI don't know about everyone else but I'm starting to think that this guy might not be the most trustworthy",
">\n\nWho is this person? He fooled so many.",
">\n\nHe saw a reality tv star play a role upon a mountain of lies and now he thinks he can too.",
">\n\nMaybe the left is missing the message here. Run as republican, be outraged by all the silly shit that Ra yell at, but then vote leftwing.\nPretend to be a right-wing nut job, but vote left",
">\n\nBecause this is how you get elected and get a fuckton of money, obviously. It's easy to do. Look at Musk and Trump - also previously non-nationalists (but always grifters) capitalizing on the rightzis' lunacy and hysteria. 'Pay me if you want to survive the assault on white identity and religion' is a ~~powerful~~ profitable message.",
">\n\nR/conservative",
">\n\nCon-men have no political philosophies, just scams.",
">\n\nThese fucks just want fame. They don’t care which side they’re on, just as long as they see themselves in the paper, on the news and internet. Narcissists.",
">\n\nHe wasn’t a “Leftist” but he certainly has all the familiar traits of a sociopathic Conservative. Georgieboi will say and do anything to get what he wants. It is your stereotypical malignant Narcissist.",
">\n\nSleeper agent?",
">\n\nThe reason for “this crazy thing” is called money. He was obviously bought by some group to run as a gay republican to get votes in a contested district, and it worked. All efforts should be put in it tracking down who paid him to do this and creating strong ethical standards for elected officials",
">\n\nI can guarantee you he didn't just recently turn crazy",
">\n\nIf the song was about Santos, it basically would have been I met a drag queen, she was horrible, I went somewhere else.",
">\n\nI'm gonna channel my inner Obi Wan and ask who's more foolish, the fool, or the fool who votes for him?",
">\n\nThis is how politics works in the US. Hasan and his uncle Cenk talk about this all the time. Going the right wing route is a way more profitable route. For a lot of them its just a grift. The marks/voters are an extremely manipulable bunch, and the funders (billionaires/corporations) have big pockets",
">\n\nHonestly, I think this guy is awesome. Taking the republican clown archetype to the absolute extreme and exposing just how corrupt and ridiculous they are as they fumble to continue supporting him.",
">\n\nDiamond and Silk were rabid left wingers until they realized the grift opportunities were much better on the other side.",
">\n\n🎶🎶 Money money money, must be funny, in a rich man's world. 🎶🎶🎶🎶",
">\n\nThe USA- where literally anyone can come and become a right wing biggot.",
">\n\nStick that man's brain in a pigeon and it will fly backwards...",
">\n\nHe is nothing but an opportunist.",
">\n\nWe really need to see this guy’s birth certificate.",
">\n\nThe oppo researchers in the NY Democratic Party should be sacked. Honestly. How the hell did this guy get through a whole campaign without this coming out?",
">\n\nIt did come out. And local press covered it. It’s just that nobody gave a shit…",
">\n\nCrazy thing = scam artist and probable Russian plant",
">\n\nMy guess is he’s always been a pathological liar and doesn’t have any convictions or principles",
">\n\nHe never supported anything except his own enrichment. The guy is a psycho and always has been.",
">\n\nIs it that odd? I do believe a number of current conservatives both in the media and in politics were at one point pretty liberal, but when they found out they couldn't make money off it, they went to the right.",
">\n\nGrift is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nI don't think he actually believes his own shit, but I do wonder if he is being paid off by a foreign power to help destabilize the US",
">\n\nBasically one-upping Kyrsten Sinema",
">\n\nWhy is he not being recalled by his district ?",
">\n\nWhose payroll is he on?",
">\n\nI just wish this article was about Matt Gaetz",
">\n\nSimilar to people like Trump or Candice Owens. These people have no ideology just the grift path of least resistance.",
">\n\nAll these formerly hidden fun facts about ol' George here are sooo interesting. He's just a never-ending fount of delightful surprises!\nP.S. Did you know that George Santos lassos rampaging bulls with his penis?",
">\n\nYeah, he probably lied about all that too",
">\n\nDamn, I never thought anyone on the republican team could do their makeup better than Trump, but I was wrong!",
">\n\nSir Lies a lot",
">\n\nHe didn’t change. He was always a liar. I wouldn’t be shocked if he was a straight up\nPsychopath.",
">\n\nPrevious Jobs Drag Artist…\nRepublicans: i think we can be a good match and we have a job offer for you.",
">\n\nPlease can someone make a visual timeline of this man’s life and lies? It’s so complicated that I can’t understand the full history of when he showed up in politics and the claims he’s made. It’s too convoluted to comprehend. I need bullet points. Or drawrings.",
">\n\nWho is this guy? Like he could be some sleeper agent",
">\n\nso he's clearly either an opportunist, or a legit crazy person... or both",
">\n\nThis story doesn’t even seem real.",
">\n\n“Article I, Section 2, Clause 2: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.”\nHow did he get into congress if you need to be a U.S. citizen for at least 7 years?",
">\n\nHe wanted progressive policies for his own country. He's happy to profit from destroying this one.",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is Glenn Greenwald?",
">\n\nI've never seen him and Kyrsten Sinema in the same room together.\nI'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'",
">\n\nWhich sounds more realistic?\n1) hundreds and hundreds of people are all lying about one person, across continents\n2) one person is lying A BUNCH.",
">\n\nI want to know if he's actually a US citizen, or if just lied about that like everything else.",
">\n\nAre we sure that \"George Santos\" is not just a Sacha Baron Cohen project at this point?",
">\n\nThis is literally full grift mode mask off. There isn't any hard evidence a guy like Dave Rubin switches to the right for money, but we all know it's true.\nThis grift has receipts.",
">\n\nHe goes where the grift is. Right now the maga crowd is so reactionary and blinded by the identity politics of the right that they don't notice their pockets being picked",
">\n\nThe crazy theory of him being actually an actor working for Sasha Baron Cohen sounds less and less crazy every day.",
">\n\nProbably just a grifter who saw where the suckers were at. People like him don't have any real political beliefs.",
">\n\nThe quote that stood out to me is “he wanted to be famous, no matter what.” He got his wish.",
">\n\nSo he’s drag Trump?",
">\n\nMany people are actually left leaning and for policies that benefit many people, all people. Until they move to the US, and are fed “patriotic” adjectives by the GOP. \nI.e. my in laws.",
">\n\nOr he just knew which party would be more receptive to grift",
">\n\nIt’s so nice to see the GOP, the party of \"facts and logic,” standing by a party member known to be so honest and truthful...",
">\n\nRepublicans need to stop endorsing con-men and Yahoos. The Republican Party is looking like some kind of Clown Party.",
">\n\nIt’s like bizarro Kyrsten Sinema… is he a democrat plant for revenge purposes? /s?",
">\n\nWhat if he's trying to infiltrate the enemy and do a double-cross and we all blew his cover?",
">\n\nAll the crazy that Russian money could buy.",
">\n\nYeah, these types of people stand for nothing.\nThey just shift into whatever the environment calls for.",
">\n\nMakes u really wonder what plans he has for any confidential information he may be privy to during his term.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to me how this happens. Like there was no real Republican that was interested in the office so they just went with this guy? Like how does it happen.",
">\n\nThis is a real republican...",
">\n\nIs he the Cousin of Ronnette Desantis from Florida???",
">\n\nThis guy is nuts. When I first saw stories of this dude I thought he looked off af. His look just didn’t fit. Like a skinwalker. And every story, including this one, has only affirmed those instincts more. Uncanny valley in the modern age.",
">\n\nHas Glenn Greenwald gotten on the case yet being an investigative journalist who lives in Brazil???",
">\n\nMan just wanted some free healthcare for life",
">\n\nEver read “Kiss of the Spider Woman?” A flamboyant gay drag queen in South America is joyfully apolitical even as the government is cracking down on people like him. This makes him an easy mark, and in return for little favors the fascists turn him into a double agent working for them instead.",
">\n\nIt’s easy to get elected if you just spew enough hate into the right people.",
">\n\nIt would be so easy to be a right wing grifter",
">\n\nHe probably got introduced to Putin by Glenn Greenwald.",
">\n\nIf this whole thing turns out to be some piece of performance art. I will admit it's impressive.",
">\n\nHe has to be friends with Glen Greenwald",
">\n\nCapitalism consumes those with a weak mind. Makes sense Santos betrayed the left and gave in to the vast wealth the conservative movement offered. Dude was an opportunist, and the GOP gullible rich assholes. Perfect marriage",
">\n\nThey love how the crazies distract the libs so much that they'll keep electing them until it's the GCP.",
">\n\nLauren Boebert was a sugar baby found through a casting website.\nThe whole plan is to make sure that tons of clown candidates break through.\nIt creates the narrative that all government is corrupt and we need a strong fascist to fix things. \"I mean, you don't see the Democrats doing anything to stop Santos or MTG or Boebert...\" they'll argue as they throw Santos out.",
">\n\n\"Crazy\" is more likely to be accepted by the Republican party, the Democrats would have turned him away.",
">\n\n\"this crazy thing\" being your standard political grifter?",
">\n\nThe Big Reveal: He is Andy Kaufman.",
">\n\nNo it's a republicans so desperate to win a seat in any district that even crazy are on the menu.",
">\n\nLike Trump and Musk, too. I guess it takes far less effort to gather and keep idiots as constituents",
">\n\nI feel at this point I need a docuseries about what the hell is going on with this guy.",
">\n\nDuh. He followed the money. So did Trump. And Candice Owens.",
">\n\nMoney is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nOut of the many characteristics he has, his most outstanding feature is his ability to lie. So he turned to the party of liars.",
">\n\nIt’s always the same shit. Some loser tried and failed to fit in with leftists because they had a shallow grasp on progressivism and were more interested with personal gain and were willing to abandon everything they claimed they stood for, all so that they can go grift and get money from conservatives making themselves out to be “one of the good ones”. Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, George santos, Jimmy dore, the list goes on.",
">\n\nWhen they can no longer defend him in the face of the mudslide of lies, they say he's a \"leftist\". Lol omg seriously? He never went anywhere as a Democrat. This idiot is a con artist pure and simple. He got elected Ted as a GOP Rep. Those are the facts.",
">\n\nJust like most of the other GOP they look at their job as entertainment and personal gain. It's all a game to them like going to Vegas.",
">\n\nWhat kind of art do they do?",
">\n\nThe American Dream.",
">\n\nTroll level: 1000",
">\n\nAnd this is the Republican Party in a nutshell. No background checks. Just wants a seat in congress!",
">\n\nThis is just like new Mexican immigrants like Paola Ramos who was right-wing in Mexico yet when they come to the U.S. they are left wing.",
">\n\nI am all for Brazilian drag artists in general, even the mendacious kind, but it's rather shocking that one could become a MAGA congressman so easily. WTF, America.",
">\n\nHe never left drag. He just changed his costume.",
">\n\nThe GOP is the way they are because of money. They have lost sight that they are actually mandated to run and improve the country. That has taken a back seat.",
">\n\nThis is what happens when there are no consequences for lying politicians",
">\n\nConservatives wanted to drag the drag queens into their culture wars and they have exceeded expectations.",
">\n\nThis man saw how easy it is to get republicans to vote for you and grifted to victory Lolol",
">\n\nIt's called \"grift\". They proclaim to be whatever brings them most benefit.",
">\n\nSantos is anything he feels people need to fit in. Heck Santos was awarded one Congressional Medal of Honor and just returned from a Mars exploration - all for sucking dick!",
">\n\nYou know… I didn’t think anybody on this planet could lie more and better than Trump. \nApparently George said “Hold my beer”"
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"He knew conservatives would be the easiest marks. He was right.",
">\n\nIf I pulled a grift on Republican voters, I'd immediately flip to Democrat after winning election.\nI am reasonably confident I could continue to manipulate them even as a Democrat lmao",
">\n\nAh, the Sinema strategy.",
">\n\nNot terribly smart. Sinema might want to make money as a lobbyist after she leaves politics but she has almost no good relations with either the Democrats or GOP. Her grifter tactics are going to backfire hard",
">\n\nWhen you make more money than you can spend in a lifetime, does it matter",
">\n\nGiven her whole \"prada-socialist\" gimmick from a few years ago, I'm going to bet she has a spending problem.",
">\n\nthat article was oddly enthralling thank you",
">\n\nHaha I thought the same thing. Glad you enjoyed it",
">\n\nThe best part of this is watching the lack of integrity of his fellow republicans get exposed as they jump through hoops to keep supporting him.",
">\n\nI had the thought of \"what if that's the point of the long con\" but immediately shot that down because consistency, integrity, and appearances don't matter. Them being caught in a double standard doesn't matter.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is what the GOP is now. It's entirely filled by grifters who find some way to tap into peoples' dissatisfaction with Democrats. It has nothing to do with ideas or ideology or charisma or even anger in some cases. Mtg got in with qanon. Matt gaetz got in by having a rich dad. George Santos got in because it was a good year for Republicans in new york. And trump got in because he ran against Hillary Clinton.\nNobody cares about the results. They probably don't even care about the current trans panic. They stopped caring about the election years ago. And now they don't even care about q. \nThis is the modern republican party. And by the looks of it they overdosed on nihilism",
">\n\nI'm so exhausted living in a world with adult babies.",
">\n\nMuch prefer the diaper lovers, at least they keep to themselves.",
">\n\nHe could smell the money. It's all about the grift. Tomorrow I could start being a right wing grifter and within a year be a millionaire....\nHey, wait a minute. Excuse me...",
">\n\nMan the amount of times I have thought \"ya know if it weren't for this pesky conscience, I could be rich right now, just gotta tell the sheep what they want to hear and they will throw their money at you.\"\nBut I would feel bad about fleecing people out of their money, so I don't. Morals always getting in the way of making money...",
">\n\nIt's a problem. I couldn't live with myself.",
">\n\nRight?\nIve been tempted to start a megachurch so many times, but I would feel so horrible lying to those people to extract their money from them.",
">\n\nMaybe starting a new religion isn’t a bad thing. All religions are more like clustered philosophies and sets of rules on how to live a good life; the mythology and associated deities are secondary to that purpose\nIt wouldn’t be hard to make a new religion more ethical than Mormonism at least",
">\n\nI've had that thought, call it the Church of Autotheism, and base it around the idea we are all our own gods, in that we are responsible for our own actions, and the consequences of those actions. We are gods because we change the world every time we interact it with, no matter how minor that interaction is or how subtle the change caused is.\nThe hope being that if you make people aware of their actions and the consequences that they would choose to be good. Which is probably wishful thinking at best.",
">\n\nIt would fail as a religion\n\n\nEvery religion advocates for consequentialism. Every single one.\n\n\nThe purpose of Gods whether they be Allah, Buddha, Vishnu, Ahura Mazda, The Jade Emperor, etc. is to remind people that human beings are not Gods; that human beings are ultimately falliable and that there is a reason mankind is in a fallen state, whether it be sin, haram, desire, karma, etc. Religion doesn’t work without a direct figure of worship for this reason",
">\n\nYea I know. It doesn't come with that fear of divine or cosmic retribution that hooks people.\nCan't scare people if you whole thing is \"everything is chaos, nothing means anything, so why not try being nice to each other to make things more pleasant?\" except dressed up in theological language.",
">\n\nIsnt he wanted for some crimes back in brazil?",
">\n\nBeing an extreme right wing operative is much more profitable.",
">\n\nEspecially if you're a minority. They'll build you the biggest, most expensive pedestal you've ever seen so they can show the world \"See? We can't possibly be oppressors! Here is someone we want to oppress that agrees with us!“\nAnd when you've finally helped them accomplish their goals, you'll have the honor of being second against the wall.\nAnyway, what this guy claimed years ago and what this guy claims today simply doesn't matter. His word is worthless and trying to sort the truth from the lies is a fools errand. \nHe may not even know the answer himself.",
">\n\nRemember that even in nazi germany there were Jews agreeing, supporting, and collaborating with Hitler. Only to end up in concentration camps in the end.",
">\n\nSame reason Trump switched.\nConservatives are ripe for the taking and have zero critical thinking skills.",
">\n\nSame reason for the difference in advertisements you see in conservative media. They will buy anything. All sorts of random pills, gold scams, objective trash as seen on TV stuff, scam finance stuff, etc, etc. All of this on prime time cable. You don't see them on regular media because market research is telling advertisers that conservatives are the stupidest demographic.",
">\n\nPart of me just wants to create a non profit and milk these idiots dry and then just keep 95% of the donations for running the non profit…\nEasy money.",
">\n\n\"Ted Nugent's Fund For Repossessing Mexicans' food? Sign me the fuck up\"\nActually it's me and my bros using their money to buy all the tacos we can eat...",
">\n\nI'm so ready for this idiot to be out of the news. Can he just resign in disgrace already?",
">\n\nLol it's cute if you think politicians still resign in this day",
">\n\nDemocrats resign in disgrace. \nRepublicans just keep on doubling down to the cheers of their voters.",
">\n\nDemocrats resign over fucking nothing. \nFucking nothing makes a Republican resign.",
">\n\nI'm honestly worried Biden might resign over these documents found in his residence...",
">\n\nNot worried. The presidents daily schedule is top secret. But eventually outdated and useless info. He probably kept the schedules with his notes and didn’t think it was really an issue to people with common sense. Time will tell. Except for on Fox News.",
">\n\nSeems like he had the same \"I can make so much money grifting the idiots on the right\" idea that I've had many times.\nOnly difference is that he's actually twisted enough to go out and do it. I say I'll do it quite often, but I'm not shitty enough to go through with it.",
">\n\nI have had this thought so many times as a bilingual x missionary kid. If we ran together we could make a killing! :P",
">\n\nI was a Bible Thumper, went to Christian school.. Oh man I could tute the tune on the horn they play. Like a fucking fiddle it would be so easy.",
">\n\nChristian college here bud, join the ticket.",
">\n\nChristian high school, christian college, white with blond hair and parents are rich, and born and raised in the south. It would be sooo easy.",
">\n\nYou are invited too bud, we need a vet and we're fuckin set.",
">\n\nHell ya! Let’s put this religious trauma to use",
">\n\nI'm an old ass left coast librul and I welcome this chaos magic.",
">\n\nFantastic work, did you train a model with every George Santos picture you could find?",
">\n\nTrained w about 30 pics.",
">\n\nI'm impressed",
">\n\nCriminals recognize criminals. I’m convinced any person running with an R next to their name at this point is strictly an opportunistic grifter with zero interest in governing",
">\n\nWas this comment written in the late 1980's. Ronald Reagan...",
">\n\nThe precise moment productivity and wages set off on their separate journeys and never spoke again.",
">\n\nAww come on that money gonna trickle down any year now...",
">\n\nProof that anyone that can lie can be an elected republican",
">\n\nDude, it’s getting sad at this point.\nIt’s blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention, and I hate to say it because again it makes me sad, but conservatives are rubes. These people have progressively seen how gullible they are and now there’s a feeding frenzy. \nThey smelled blood in the water when they saw Trump’s popularity rose prior to the 2016 election and they haven’t stopped since.",
">\n\n\"If that idiot can grift so can I\"",
">\n\nImagine if we took money out of politics and politicians were only working for the betterment of the people. We wouldn't have nearly as many of these stories where a conservative person is looking down on or doing something they say they're against.\nShit, if our politicians weren't suckling the teat of the rich we would likely have healthcare, people would be fed, and this manufactured inflation that's making us all poorer would have been nipped I'm the bud back when they first thought they could pull one over on the working class. \nInstead, we just get the stick.",
">\n\nTake the excess campaign dollars out of it. Don’t allow ANY money to be donated. Let every candidate start with the same dollar amount, maybe 5-10 million raised from donations and use it for expenses as they tour across the country, meeting the voters. Once the campaign money is gone, it’s gone. A bipartisan site online could accept the donations for any candidate and keep a running total of money received. Have TV debates, with the understanding that anyone breaking the rules will be immediately muted, and asked to leave. Have town hall meetings. Get politics back to the PEOPLE, to grassroots campaigns that don’t spend $100 million on one candidate. It levels the playing field for anyone to run that can raise $10 million through grassroots efforts. No politician should be beholden to huge campaign contributors. Do away with lobbying! Our country can be run better by a humanitarian,and a great administration of extremely qualified individuals. Military, Finance, Social issues, Education, Intelligence, Veterans issues, etc. we have to change the way the US is run, including elections. The richest people in the country are BUYING politicians…something the majority of the country can’t compete in, and don’t want to compete in. It would be wonderful to start voting in people based on their intelligence, their character, and their history and background. People who were overachievers in high school, college, and work. Vetting for every candidate, and any negative findings that are related to morals is disqualifying. Whoever is running this country need to be above reproach. Maybe Hakeem Jeffries, who has a great track record and is younger and more enthusiastic that anyone in the Republican Party He’s done so much for his constituents, that it’s obvious he’s a good man , and very intelligent",
">\n\nI agree with everything you said except the Hakeem Jeffries part. He takes tons of campaign bribes from multiple industries. There are democrats in the house of representatives with much cleaner records than him.",
">\n\nSantos is whoever he needs to be to pull a scam.",
">\n\nHe didn't didn't run on a whim. Someone \"encouraged\" him. Trace the origin of his money.",
">\n\nTrump has been a registered Democrat, Reformer & Republican.\nGrifters go where the money is at.",
">\n\nbeing a republican politician is basically an extremely immoral form of drag when you think about it.",
">\n\nI am now convinced that he got all of his money from the Republican party. I'm convinced that they knew he was lying all along, and they did whatever they could to get him elected. Why? Because he provides a really good distraction. While we're all watching the George Santos show, the Republicans are quietly destroying democracy.",
">\n\nHe knew it would be easy to fool a bunch of conservatives, and unfortunately he was right. Bunch of easy marks.",
">\n\nWhenever I run across a gay Republican (and they are definitely out there) I immediately assume they’re a sociopath.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian, who's perpetually befuddled by American politics, I'm amazed that someone with that gay of a face is flashing white power symbols.",
">\n\nIs George even Tony’s real name?",
">\n\nHe didn't just pop up out of nowhere and win a race all on his own. Someone chose him to be the front-man, organized, and paid for his campaign. Be interesting to find out who that was.",
">\n\nThis dude is a distraction. I’m not super into politics but I have a feeling that someone is doing some really shady shit and it being overlooked for this low hanging piece of shit.",
">\n\nIs it just me or are right wingers their own unique brand of especially gullible marks? I mean, scams don't have a political leaning but there's a lot of ways to make money selling explicitly right wing nonsense.",
">\n\nSo basically, New York elected Borat to Congress.",
">\n\nRepublicans elected him to congress",
">\n\nNo not at all, he won the Long Island district that almost always votes democrat. But it’s got a large Jewish population so he lied about being Jewish.",
">\n\nLong Islanders continue to be the stupidest fucking people",
">\n\nI'm still grappling with the fact that people care more about when he dressed up in costume as a different gender, rather than the extensive lies about his credentials.",
">\n\nI don't think \"they\" do. I.e. I think most normal people realize all that other shit is waaay worse. But everyone is wondering what the deal-breaker will be for the GOP, and you'd think that'd be proof he was a drag queen, hence the attention that's getting.\nIOW it's just evidence of how low our expectations are of the Republicans.",
">\n\nIf only I was shameless and doesn't care how much people will hate me, I definitely would run for a republican office.",
">\n\nIf you’re a conman trying to get money from political campaigns conservatives are an easy mark.",
">\n\nThere's a reason people right-wing grift. Easy money. It's also why the left-wing grift isn't a thing.",
">\n\nI’m noticing a trend with all these right wing psychos, there’s a whole lot of South Americans and Cubans in their ranks.",
">\n\nI knew the water circled the drain differently when crossing the equator, but this is ridiculous.",
">\n\nThis thread doesn't deserve your comment.",
">\n\nHe saw how gullible the Right is and how to exploit them for $",
">\n\nHe's not right or left. He's a con man. And the smart voters in NY actually voted him into office. Maybe do some research before you vote and don't vote along party lines.",
">\n\nIt’s just the last part, and they won’t.",
">\n\nMaybe he is a Trojan horse",
">\n\nOr a Trojan rep",
">\n\nHe did what Trump did, realized who the stupid people were and joined their side.",
">\n\nIs this dude getting cawthorned? Do Republicans make them go and commit kompromat before they support them?",
">\n\nThis will be the thing that really angers the Right....",
">\n\nGeorge Santo is a Lizard Person e.g. a Chameleon changing to his current environment in order to survive and prosper.",
">\n\nSome people flip flop between political extremes. On a rare occation it means they have an open mind. More often than not, they are just fools, though.",
">\n\nIt is so tragic that his family was in the holocaust and his mother died at the towers on 911",
">\n\nPure sociopath wil say anything to anyone",
">\n\nYou mean turn into a Russian agent for money and power beyond his imagination to hurt a country he didn't give a flying rat's ass about? He's not even a traitor - he's just working for Papa Putin to fuck the Americans.",
">\n\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent\nplease be a left wing sleeper agent",
">\n\nOpportunistic Brazilian ConArtist",
">\n\nThis just goes to show why vetting processes need to happen before someone is elected",
">\n\nHe's one of those, like Trump, that is whatever is most convenient at that moment. Not really anything at all when you cut down to the deepest layer. \nTrump and Hillary were such friends that he invited her to his wedding. Years later, he's this alt-right champion. It's ridiculous and barely covers the fact that he will play any side that benefits him. Just like this boy Santos. Both sociopathic liars with fragile egos and shaky claims to any thing remotely verifiable as truth.",
">\n\nUndiagnosed personality disorders are all around us.",
">\n\nSays a lot about George Santos that I believe a random Drag Artist in Brazil over the elected politician George Santos \nCaveat, Not that I wouldnt believe something a person says (drag artist or not), but if random people came out on the internet and said, “Trump randomly said to me one time he loves Democrat policies and was a huge Obama fan” I’d be like, “Okay, random person, Trumps a shitty person but I doubt that.” George Santos is such a fucking liar I’m like, “She probably telling the truth”",
">\n\nEvery day this looks more like a borat movie in real life.",
">\n\nIF America had rejected tRump, this pathological liar, wouldn't be here now.",
">\n\nI don't know about everyone else but I'm starting to think that this guy might not be the most trustworthy",
">\n\nWho is this person? He fooled so many.",
">\n\nHe saw a reality tv star play a role upon a mountain of lies and now he thinks he can too.",
">\n\nMaybe the left is missing the message here. Run as republican, be outraged by all the silly shit that Ra yell at, but then vote leftwing.\nPretend to be a right-wing nut job, but vote left",
">\n\nBecause this is how you get elected and get a fuckton of money, obviously. It's easy to do. Look at Musk and Trump - also previously non-nationalists (but always grifters) capitalizing on the rightzis' lunacy and hysteria. 'Pay me if you want to survive the assault on white identity and religion' is a ~~powerful~~ profitable message.",
">\n\nR/conservative",
">\n\nCon-men have no political philosophies, just scams.",
">\n\nThese fucks just want fame. They don’t care which side they’re on, just as long as they see themselves in the paper, on the news and internet. Narcissists.",
">\n\nHe wasn’t a “Leftist” but he certainly has all the familiar traits of a sociopathic Conservative. Georgieboi will say and do anything to get what he wants. It is your stereotypical malignant Narcissist.",
">\n\nSleeper agent?",
">\n\nThe reason for “this crazy thing” is called money. He was obviously bought by some group to run as a gay republican to get votes in a contested district, and it worked. All efforts should be put in it tracking down who paid him to do this and creating strong ethical standards for elected officials",
">\n\nI can guarantee you he didn't just recently turn crazy",
">\n\nIf the song was about Santos, it basically would have been I met a drag queen, she was horrible, I went somewhere else.",
">\n\nI'm gonna channel my inner Obi Wan and ask who's more foolish, the fool, or the fool who votes for him?",
">\n\nThis is how politics works in the US. Hasan and his uncle Cenk talk about this all the time. Going the right wing route is a way more profitable route. For a lot of them its just a grift. The marks/voters are an extremely manipulable bunch, and the funders (billionaires/corporations) have big pockets",
">\n\nHonestly, I think this guy is awesome. Taking the republican clown archetype to the absolute extreme and exposing just how corrupt and ridiculous they are as they fumble to continue supporting him.",
">\n\nDiamond and Silk were rabid left wingers until they realized the grift opportunities were much better on the other side.",
">\n\n🎶🎶 Money money money, must be funny, in a rich man's world. 🎶🎶🎶🎶",
">\n\nThe USA- where literally anyone can come and become a right wing biggot.",
">\n\nStick that man's brain in a pigeon and it will fly backwards...",
">\n\nHe is nothing but an opportunist.",
">\n\nWe really need to see this guy’s birth certificate.",
">\n\nThe oppo researchers in the NY Democratic Party should be sacked. Honestly. How the hell did this guy get through a whole campaign without this coming out?",
">\n\nIt did come out. And local press covered it. It’s just that nobody gave a shit…",
">\n\nCrazy thing = scam artist and probable Russian plant",
">\n\nMy guess is he’s always been a pathological liar and doesn’t have any convictions or principles",
">\n\nHe never supported anything except his own enrichment. The guy is a psycho and always has been.",
">\n\nIs it that odd? I do believe a number of current conservatives both in the media and in politics were at one point pretty liberal, but when they found out they couldn't make money off it, they went to the right.",
">\n\nGrift is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nI don't think he actually believes his own shit, but I do wonder if he is being paid off by a foreign power to help destabilize the US",
">\n\nBasically one-upping Kyrsten Sinema",
">\n\nWhy is he not being recalled by his district ?",
">\n\nWhose payroll is he on?",
">\n\nI just wish this article was about Matt Gaetz",
">\n\nSimilar to people like Trump or Candice Owens. These people have no ideology just the grift path of least resistance.",
">\n\nAll these formerly hidden fun facts about ol' George here are sooo interesting. He's just a never-ending fount of delightful surprises!\nP.S. Did you know that George Santos lassos rampaging bulls with his penis?",
">\n\nYeah, he probably lied about all that too",
">\n\nDamn, I never thought anyone on the republican team could do their makeup better than Trump, but I was wrong!",
">\n\nSir Lies a lot",
">\n\nHe didn’t change. He was always a liar. I wouldn’t be shocked if he was a straight up\nPsychopath.",
">\n\nPrevious Jobs Drag Artist…\nRepublicans: i think we can be a good match and we have a job offer for you.",
">\n\nPlease can someone make a visual timeline of this man’s life and lies? It’s so complicated that I can’t understand the full history of when he showed up in politics and the claims he’s made. It’s too convoluted to comprehend. I need bullet points. Or drawrings.",
">\n\nWho is this guy? Like he could be some sleeper agent",
">\n\nso he's clearly either an opportunist, or a legit crazy person... or both",
">\n\nThis story doesn’t even seem real.",
">\n\n“Article I, Section 2, Clause 2: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.”\nHow did he get into congress if you need to be a U.S. citizen for at least 7 years?",
">\n\nHe wanted progressive policies for his own country. He's happy to profit from destroying this one.",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is Glenn Greenwald?",
">\n\nI've never seen him and Kyrsten Sinema in the same room together.\nI'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'",
">\n\nWhich sounds more realistic?\n1) hundreds and hundreds of people are all lying about one person, across continents\n2) one person is lying A BUNCH.",
">\n\nI want to know if he's actually a US citizen, or if just lied about that like everything else.",
">\n\nAre we sure that \"George Santos\" is not just a Sacha Baron Cohen project at this point?",
">\n\nThis is literally full grift mode mask off. There isn't any hard evidence a guy like Dave Rubin switches to the right for money, but we all know it's true.\nThis grift has receipts.",
">\n\nHe goes where the grift is. Right now the maga crowd is so reactionary and blinded by the identity politics of the right that they don't notice their pockets being picked",
">\n\nThe crazy theory of him being actually an actor working for Sasha Baron Cohen sounds less and less crazy every day.",
">\n\nProbably just a grifter who saw where the suckers were at. People like him don't have any real political beliefs.",
">\n\nThe quote that stood out to me is “he wanted to be famous, no matter what.” He got his wish.",
">\n\nSo he’s drag Trump?",
">\n\nMany people are actually left leaning and for policies that benefit many people, all people. Until they move to the US, and are fed “patriotic” adjectives by the GOP. \nI.e. my in laws.",
">\n\nOr he just knew which party would be more receptive to grift",
">\n\nIt’s so nice to see the GOP, the party of \"facts and logic,” standing by a party member known to be so honest and truthful...",
">\n\nRepublicans need to stop endorsing con-men and Yahoos. The Republican Party is looking like some kind of Clown Party.",
">\n\nIt’s like bizarro Kyrsten Sinema… is he a democrat plant for revenge purposes? /s?",
">\n\nWhat if he's trying to infiltrate the enemy and do a double-cross and we all blew his cover?",
">\n\nAll the crazy that Russian money could buy.",
">\n\nYeah, these types of people stand for nothing.\nThey just shift into whatever the environment calls for.",
">\n\nMakes u really wonder what plans he has for any confidential information he may be privy to during his term.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to me how this happens. Like there was no real Republican that was interested in the office so they just went with this guy? Like how does it happen.",
">\n\nThis is a real republican...",
">\n\nIs he the Cousin of Ronnette Desantis from Florida???",
">\n\nThis guy is nuts. When I first saw stories of this dude I thought he looked off af. His look just didn’t fit. Like a skinwalker. And every story, including this one, has only affirmed those instincts more. Uncanny valley in the modern age.",
">\n\nHas Glenn Greenwald gotten on the case yet being an investigative journalist who lives in Brazil???",
">\n\nMan just wanted some free healthcare for life",
">\n\nEver read “Kiss of the Spider Woman?” A flamboyant gay drag queen in South America is joyfully apolitical even as the government is cracking down on people like him. This makes him an easy mark, and in return for little favors the fascists turn him into a double agent working for them instead.",
">\n\nIt’s easy to get elected if you just spew enough hate into the right people.",
">\n\nIt would be so easy to be a right wing grifter",
">\n\nHe probably got introduced to Putin by Glenn Greenwald.",
">\n\nIf this whole thing turns out to be some piece of performance art. I will admit it's impressive.",
">\n\nHe has to be friends with Glen Greenwald",
">\n\nCapitalism consumes those with a weak mind. Makes sense Santos betrayed the left and gave in to the vast wealth the conservative movement offered. Dude was an opportunist, and the GOP gullible rich assholes. Perfect marriage",
">\n\nThey love how the crazies distract the libs so much that they'll keep electing them until it's the GCP.",
">\n\nLauren Boebert was a sugar baby found through a casting website.\nThe whole plan is to make sure that tons of clown candidates break through.\nIt creates the narrative that all government is corrupt and we need a strong fascist to fix things. \"I mean, you don't see the Democrats doing anything to stop Santos or MTG or Boebert...\" they'll argue as they throw Santos out.",
">\n\n\"Crazy\" is more likely to be accepted by the Republican party, the Democrats would have turned him away.",
">\n\n\"this crazy thing\" being your standard political grifter?",
">\n\nThe Big Reveal: He is Andy Kaufman.",
">\n\nNo it's a republicans so desperate to win a seat in any district that even crazy are on the menu.",
">\n\nLike Trump and Musk, too. I guess it takes far less effort to gather and keep idiots as constituents",
">\n\nI feel at this point I need a docuseries about what the hell is going on with this guy.",
">\n\nDuh. He followed the money. So did Trump. And Candice Owens.",
">\n\nMoney is a hell of a drug",
">\n\nOut of the many characteristics he has, his most outstanding feature is his ability to lie. So he turned to the party of liars.",
">\n\nIt’s always the same shit. Some loser tried and failed to fit in with leftists because they had a shallow grasp on progressivism and were more interested with personal gain and were willing to abandon everything they claimed they stood for, all so that they can go grift and get money from conservatives making themselves out to be “one of the good ones”. Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, George santos, Jimmy dore, the list goes on.",
">\n\nWhen they can no longer defend him in the face of the mudslide of lies, they say he's a \"leftist\". Lol omg seriously? He never went anywhere as a Democrat. This idiot is a con artist pure and simple. He got elected Ted as a GOP Rep. Those are the facts.",
">\n\nJust like most of the other GOP they look at their job as entertainment and personal gain. It's all a game to them like going to Vegas.",
">\n\nWhat kind of art do they do?",
">\n\nThe American Dream.",
">\n\nTroll level: 1000",
">\n\nAnd this is the Republican Party in a nutshell. No background checks. Just wants a seat in congress!",
">\n\nThis is just like new Mexican immigrants like Paola Ramos who was right-wing in Mexico yet when they come to the U.S. they are left wing.",
">\n\nI am all for Brazilian drag artists in general, even the mendacious kind, but it's rather shocking that one could become a MAGA congressman so easily. WTF, America.",
">\n\nHe never left drag. He just changed his costume.",
">\n\nThe GOP is the way they are because of money. They have lost sight that they are actually mandated to run and improve the country. That has taken a back seat.",
">\n\nThis is what happens when there are no consequences for lying politicians",
">\n\nConservatives wanted to drag the drag queens into their culture wars and they have exceeded expectations.",
">\n\nThis man saw how easy it is to get republicans to vote for you and grifted to victory Lolol",
">\n\nIt's called \"grift\". They proclaim to be whatever brings them most benefit.",
">\n\nSantos is anything he feels people need to fit in. Heck Santos was awarded one Congressional Medal of Honor and just returned from a Mars exploration - all for sucking dick!",
">\n\nYou know… I didn’t think anybody on this planet could lie more and better than Trump. \nApparently George said “Hold my beer”",
">\n\nIf Republicans thought he was a liberal plant, perhaps then they'd dump him."
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Edit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing "you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.
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so you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?
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Yes.
Shall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?
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Yes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?
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">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
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It was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all
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">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?"
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I'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.
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"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all"
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It's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.
There's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.
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"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely."
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Good thing neither is real.
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">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell."
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I like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”
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">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real."
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"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards."
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"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”"
] |
>
"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights," Willis said.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\""
] |
>
future defendants'
That is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said."
] |
>
She literally said “decisions are imminent”
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?"
] |
>
that's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.
i am eager is all i'm saying.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”"
] |
>
Someone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying."
] |
>
If they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now."
] |
>
Doesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup."
] |
>
In the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?"
] |
>
And in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery."
] |
>
California requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not"
] |
>
I don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap."
] |
>
100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick."
] |
>
Makes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it."
] |
>
Doesn’t want public to see it yet.
If he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool."
] |
>
It will make jury selection much more difficult.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed."
] |
>
Jury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult."
] |
>
It will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue."
] |
>
Exactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…"
] |
>
True!
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury."
] |
>
Well the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!"
] |
>
But, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year..."
] |
>
In an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released "at this time." She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges.
McBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge."
] |
>
jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents
Have any of them talked yet?
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest."
] |
>
Then indict him already.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?"
] |
>
There is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already."
] |
>
What, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised."
] |
>
that's silliy.
in the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!
/s
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!"
] |
>
…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.
But nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s"
] |
>
Only a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity"
] |
>
Grand jury is never public until it goes to trial.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem."
] |
>
Not in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial."
] |
>
I don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently"
] |
>
I never say "lol" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip."
] |
>
Tired of waiting for justice? I sure am.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL."
] |
>
The reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am."
] |
>
Add a fucking "yet" to the title.
Atlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction."
] |
>
Releasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc."
] |
>
How could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA."
] |
>
We've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not."
] |
>
The media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting "public interest."
They do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom."
] |
>
Atlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court."
] |
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Wont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?
Same thing with any federal indictments
Republicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses."
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Georgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board.
Also, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).
Finally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing.
In other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.
I don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump."
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I did not know that, thank you.
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong."
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This is NOT an accurate headline.
The DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments.
And that is a perfectly reasonable stance .
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you."
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Makes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.
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"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance ."
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Why. We all know exactly what happened.
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country."
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If they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened."
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Fine. Indict already!
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial."
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Not yet. You forgot that part.
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!"
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Before the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing.
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part."
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Prosecutors are allowed to conduct a grand jury investigation without sharing the details of the investigation until they are ready to hand down indictments. The statement that they are imminent is not even necessary. It’s not the judges investigation nor the judges decision. It would be appealed and lose even if the judge tried to act like a prosecutor.
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part.",
">\n\nBefore the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing."
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Go, Fani, go!
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part.",
">\n\nBefore the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing.",
">\n\nProsecutors are allowed to conduct a grand jury investigation without sharing the details of the investigation until they are ready to hand down indictments. The statement that they are imminent is not even necessary. It’s not the judges investigation nor the judges decision. It would be appealed and lose even if the judge tried to act like a prosecutor."
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If by law it should be public then it should be public. If there's reluctance to relay the findings then obviously relaying the information goes against certain political agendas
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part.",
">\n\nBefore the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing.",
">\n\nProsecutors are allowed to conduct a grand jury investigation without sharing the details of the investigation until they are ready to hand down indictments. The statement that they are imminent is not even necessary. It’s not the judges investigation nor the judges decision. It would be appealed and lose even if the judge tried to act like a prosecutor.",
">\n\nGo, Fani, go!"
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Translation: theyre trying to come up with a lie
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part.",
">\n\nBefore the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing.",
">\n\nProsecutors are allowed to conduct a grand jury investigation without sharing the details of the investigation until they are ready to hand down indictments. The statement that they are imminent is not even necessary. It’s not the judges investigation nor the judges decision. It would be appealed and lose even if the judge tried to act like a prosecutor.",
">\n\nGo, Fani, go!",
">\n\nIf by law it should be public then it should be public. If there's reluctance to relay the findings then obviously relaying the information goes against certain political agendas"
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>
It is important to keep a case secret. How people don't grasp this I don't understand.
They never open the books on RICO case, and this is basically what we have, except with treason.
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part.",
">\n\nBefore the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing.",
">\n\nProsecutors are allowed to conduct a grand jury investigation without sharing the details of the investigation until they are ready to hand down indictments. The statement that they are imminent is not even necessary. It’s not the judges investigation nor the judges decision. It would be appealed and lose even if the judge tried to act like a prosecutor.",
">\n\nGo, Fani, go!",
">\n\nIf by law it should be public then it should be public. If there's reluctance to relay the findings then obviously relaying the information goes against certain political agendas",
">\n\nTranslation: theyre trying to come up with a lie"
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Oh I already “see” the right spin on this: “so, what are they trying to 🫣hide? Probably more Russer, Russer, Russer, one big nothing burger.”
When, in reality, she may be closer to indicting trump for the first time in his entire criminal career and for RICO charges.
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part.",
">\n\nBefore the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing.",
">\n\nProsecutors are allowed to conduct a grand jury investigation without sharing the details of the investigation until they are ready to hand down indictments. The statement that they are imminent is not even necessary. It’s not the judges investigation nor the judges decision. It would be appealed and lose even if the judge tried to act like a prosecutor.",
">\n\nGo, Fani, go!",
">\n\nIf by law it should be public then it should be public. If there's reluctance to relay the findings then obviously relaying the information goes against certain political agendas",
">\n\nTranslation: theyre trying to come up with a lie",
">\n\nIt is important to keep a case secret. How people don't grasp this I don't understand. \nThey never open the books on RICO case, and this is basically what we have, except with treason."
] |
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BECAUSE THE CASES AGAINST SHITLER ARE STILL ONGOING.
Duh.
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part.",
">\n\nBefore the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing.",
">\n\nProsecutors are allowed to conduct a grand jury investigation without sharing the details of the investigation until they are ready to hand down indictments. The statement that they are imminent is not even necessary. It’s not the judges investigation nor the judges decision. It would be appealed and lose even if the judge tried to act like a prosecutor.",
">\n\nGo, Fani, go!",
">\n\nIf by law it should be public then it should be public. If there's reluctance to relay the findings then obviously relaying the information goes against certain political agendas",
">\n\nTranslation: theyre trying to come up with a lie",
">\n\nIt is important to keep a case secret. How people don't grasp this I don't understand. \nThey never open the books on RICO case, and this is basically what we have, except with treason.",
">\n\nOh I already “see” the right spin on this: “so, what are they trying to 🫣hide? Probably more Russer, Russer, Russer, one big nothing burger.”\nWhen, in reality, she may be closer to indicting trump for the first time in his entire criminal career and for RICO charges."
] |
>
I mean yes, that’s how grand jury’s work. For better or worse they are not public like a trial….
|
[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part.",
">\n\nBefore the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing.",
">\n\nProsecutors are allowed to conduct a grand jury investigation without sharing the details of the investigation until they are ready to hand down indictments. The statement that they are imminent is not even necessary. It’s not the judges investigation nor the judges decision. It would be appealed and lose even if the judge tried to act like a prosecutor.",
">\n\nGo, Fani, go!",
">\n\nIf by law it should be public then it should be public. If there's reluctance to relay the findings then obviously relaying the information goes against certain political agendas",
">\n\nTranslation: theyre trying to come up with a lie",
">\n\nIt is important to keep a case secret. How people don't grasp this I don't understand. \nThey never open the books on RICO case, and this is basically what we have, except with treason.",
">\n\nOh I already “see” the right spin on this: “so, what are they trying to 🫣hide? Probably more Russer, Russer, Russer, one big nothing burger.”\nWhen, in reality, she may be closer to indicting trump for the first time in his entire criminal career and for RICO charges.",
">\n\nBECAUSE THE CASES AGAINST SHITLER ARE STILL ONGOING.\nDuh."
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I think that means she's planning on indicting him. Why would she want to give his lawyers a heads up on what evidence they have against him?
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part.",
">\n\nBefore the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing.",
">\n\nProsecutors are allowed to conduct a grand jury investigation without sharing the details of the investigation until they are ready to hand down indictments. The statement that they are imminent is not even necessary. It’s not the judges investigation nor the judges decision. It would be appealed and lose even if the judge tried to act like a prosecutor.",
">\n\nGo, Fani, go!",
">\n\nIf by law it should be public then it should be public. If there's reluctance to relay the findings then obviously relaying the information goes against certain political agendas",
">\n\nTranslation: theyre trying to come up with a lie",
">\n\nIt is important to keep a case secret. How people don't grasp this I don't understand. \nThey never open the books on RICO case, and this is basically what we have, except with treason.",
">\n\nOh I already “see” the right spin on this: “so, what are they trying to 🫣hide? Probably more Russer, Russer, Russer, one big nothing burger.”\nWhen, in reality, she may be closer to indicting trump for the first time in his entire criminal career and for RICO charges.",
">\n\nBECAUSE THE CASES AGAINST SHITLER ARE STILL ONGOING.\nDuh.",
">\n\nI mean yes, that’s how grand jury’s work. For better or worse they are not public like a trial…."
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The public deserves to hear what trump tried to do here. We’ve all heard the “phone call from hell” and now need to see the evidence against trump and his merry band of dipshits.
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part.",
">\n\nBefore the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing.",
">\n\nProsecutors are allowed to conduct a grand jury investigation without sharing the details of the investigation until they are ready to hand down indictments. The statement that they are imminent is not even necessary. It’s not the judges investigation nor the judges decision. It would be appealed and lose even if the judge tried to act like a prosecutor.",
">\n\nGo, Fani, go!",
">\n\nIf by law it should be public then it should be public. If there's reluctance to relay the findings then obviously relaying the information goes against certain political agendas",
">\n\nTranslation: theyre trying to come up with a lie",
">\n\nIt is important to keep a case secret. How people don't grasp this I don't understand. \nThey never open the books on RICO case, and this is basically what we have, except with treason.",
">\n\nOh I already “see” the right spin on this: “so, what are they trying to 🫣hide? Probably more Russer, Russer, Russer, one big nothing burger.”\nWhen, in reality, she may be closer to indicting trump for the first time in his entire criminal career and for RICO charges.",
">\n\nBECAUSE THE CASES AGAINST SHITLER ARE STILL ONGOING.\nDuh.",
">\n\nI mean yes, that’s how grand jury’s work. For better or worse they are not public like a trial….",
">\n\nI think that means she's planning on indicting him. Why would she want to give his lawyers a heads up on what evidence they have against him?"
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This title leaves out the reason, she doesn’t want the report released until after indictment decisions are announced. Which she says are imminent.
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part.",
">\n\nBefore the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing.",
">\n\nProsecutors are allowed to conduct a grand jury investigation without sharing the details of the investigation until they are ready to hand down indictments. The statement that they are imminent is not even necessary. It’s not the judges investigation nor the judges decision. It would be appealed and lose even if the judge tried to act like a prosecutor.",
">\n\nGo, Fani, go!",
">\n\nIf by law it should be public then it should be public. If there's reluctance to relay the findings then obviously relaying the information goes against certain political agendas",
">\n\nTranslation: theyre trying to come up with a lie",
">\n\nIt is important to keep a case secret. How people don't grasp this I don't understand. \nThey never open the books on RICO case, and this is basically what we have, except with treason.",
">\n\nOh I already “see” the right spin on this: “so, what are they trying to 🫣hide? Probably more Russer, Russer, Russer, one big nothing burger.”\nWhen, in reality, she may be closer to indicting trump for the first time in his entire criminal career and for RICO charges.",
">\n\nBECAUSE THE CASES AGAINST SHITLER ARE STILL ONGOING.\nDuh.",
">\n\nI mean yes, that’s how grand jury’s work. For better or worse they are not public like a trial….",
">\n\nI think that means she's planning on indicting him. Why would she want to give his lawyers a heads up on what evidence they have against him?",
">\n\nThe public deserves to hear what trump tried to do here. We’ve all heard the “phone call from hell” and now need to see the evidence against trump and his merry band of dipshits."
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Sounds like a boring sensible reason not to release it too early.
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part.",
">\n\nBefore the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing.",
">\n\nProsecutors are allowed to conduct a grand jury investigation without sharing the details of the investigation until they are ready to hand down indictments. The statement that they are imminent is not even necessary. It’s not the judges investigation nor the judges decision. It would be appealed and lose even if the judge tried to act like a prosecutor.",
">\n\nGo, Fani, go!",
">\n\nIf by law it should be public then it should be public. If there's reluctance to relay the findings then obviously relaying the information goes against certain political agendas",
">\n\nTranslation: theyre trying to come up with a lie",
">\n\nIt is important to keep a case secret. How people don't grasp this I don't understand. \nThey never open the books on RICO case, and this is basically what we have, except with treason.",
">\n\nOh I already “see” the right spin on this: “so, what are they trying to 🫣hide? Probably more Russer, Russer, Russer, one big nothing burger.”\nWhen, in reality, she may be closer to indicting trump for the first time in his entire criminal career and for RICO charges.",
">\n\nBECAUSE THE CASES AGAINST SHITLER ARE STILL ONGOING.\nDuh.",
">\n\nI mean yes, that’s how grand jury’s work. For better or worse they are not public like a trial….",
">\n\nI think that means she's planning on indicting him. Why would she want to give his lawyers a heads up on what evidence they have against him?",
">\n\nThe public deserves to hear what trump tried to do here. We’ve all heard the “phone call from hell” and now need to see the evidence against trump and his merry band of dipshits.",
">\n\nThis title leaves out the reason, she doesn’t want the report released until after indictment decisions are announced. Which she says are imminent."
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Public opinion is not a legal indictment. As long as the DA is ready to indict, I don’t see a problem.
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part.",
">\n\nBefore the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing.",
">\n\nProsecutors are allowed to conduct a grand jury investigation without sharing the details of the investigation until they are ready to hand down indictments. The statement that they are imminent is not even necessary. It’s not the judges investigation nor the judges decision. It would be appealed and lose even if the judge tried to act like a prosecutor.",
">\n\nGo, Fani, go!",
">\n\nIf by law it should be public then it should be public. If there's reluctance to relay the findings then obviously relaying the information goes against certain political agendas",
">\n\nTranslation: theyre trying to come up with a lie",
">\n\nIt is important to keep a case secret. How people don't grasp this I don't understand. \nThey never open the books on RICO case, and this is basically what we have, except with treason.",
">\n\nOh I already “see” the right spin on this: “so, what are they trying to 🫣hide? Probably more Russer, Russer, Russer, one big nothing burger.”\nWhen, in reality, she may be closer to indicting trump for the first time in his entire criminal career and for RICO charges.",
">\n\nBECAUSE THE CASES AGAINST SHITLER ARE STILL ONGOING.\nDuh.",
">\n\nI mean yes, that’s how grand jury’s work. For better or worse they are not public like a trial….",
">\n\nI think that means she's planning on indicting him. Why would she want to give his lawyers a heads up on what evidence they have against him?",
">\n\nThe public deserves to hear what trump tried to do here. We’ve all heard the “phone call from hell” and now need to see the evidence against trump and his merry band of dipshits.",
">\n\nThis title leaves out the reason, she doesn’t want the report released until after indictment decisions are announced. Which she says are imminent.",
">\n\nSounds like a boring sensible reason not to release it too early."
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Headlines are a helluva drug
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part.",
">\n\nBefore the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing.",
">\n\nProsecutors are allowed to conduct a grand jury investigation without sharing the details of the investigation until they are ready to hand down indictments. The statement that they are imminent is not even necessary. It’s not the judges investigation nor the judges decision. It would be appealed and lose even if the judge tried to act like a prosecutor.",
">\n\nGo, Fani, go!",
">\n\nIf by law it should be public then it should be public. If there's reluctance to relay the findings then obviously relaying the information goes against certain political agendas",
">\n\nTranslation: theyre trying to come up with a lie",
">\n\nIt is important to keep a case secret. How people don't grasp this I don't understand. \nThey never open the books on RICO case, and this is basically what we have, except with treason.",
">\n\nOh I already “see” the right spin on this: “so, what are they trying to 🫣hide? Probably more Russer, Russer, Russer, one big nothing burger.”\nWhen, in reality, she may be closer to indicting trump for the first time in his entire criminal career and for RICO charges.",
">\n\nBECAUSE THE CASES AGAINST SHITLER ARE STILL ONGOING.\nDuh.",
">\n\nI mean yes, that’s how grand jury’s work. For better or worse they are not public like a trial….",
">\n\nI think that means she's planning on indicting him. Why would she want to give his lawyers a heads up on what evidence they have against him?",
">\n\nThe public deserves to hear what trump tried to do here. We’ve all heard the “phone call from hell” and now need to see the evidence against trump and his merry band of dipshits.",
">\n\nThis title leaves out the reason, she doesn’t want the report released until after indictment decisions are announced. Which she says are imminent.",
">\n\nSounds like a boring sensible reason not to release it too early.",
">\n\nPublic opinion is not a legal indictment. As long as the DA is ready to indict, I don’t see a problem."
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Our democracy is damaged and in need of repair under the heading of trust.
This psycho Trump took the classic fascist pathway dividing the nation while exploiting the relatively new platform known as the Internet and its mass reaching social media to ply his narcissist freak show. Now Trump's spectacle has spawned any number of filthy emulators, the names of which you all know and the media henchmen like Steve Bannon and Alex Jones and the Fox Noose creeps.
The only answer that satisfies justice with the promise to re-instate our Democracy as irrefutable including the well challenged 2020 POTUS election, is to take this filthy fascist psycho Trump and his surrogates before the full fury of the law. If Trump and his co-conspirators do not meet with the full extent of the law, next time the insurrection won't fail.
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part.",
">\n\nBefore the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing.",
">\n\nProsecutors are allowed to conduct a grand jury investigation without sharing the details of the investigation until they are ready to hand down indictments. The statement that they are imminent is not even necessary. It’s not the judges investigation nor the judges decision. It would be appealed and lose even if the judge tried to act like a prosecutor.",
">\n\nGo, Fani, go!",
">\n\nIf by law it should be public then it should be public. If there's reluctance to relay the findings then obviously relaying the information goes against certain political agendas",
">\n\nTranslation: theyre trying to come up with a lie",
">\n\nIt is important to keep a case secret. How people don't grasp this I don't understand. \nThey never open the books on RICO case, and this is basically what we have, except with treason.",
">\n\nOh I already “see” the right spin on this: “so, what are they trying to 🫣hide? Probably more Russer, Russer, Russer, one big nothing burger.”\nWhen, in reality, she may be closer to indicting trump for the first time in his entire criminal career and for RICO charges.",
">\n\nBECAUSE THE CASES AGAINST SHITLER ARE STILL ONGOING.\nDuh.",
">\n\nI mean yes, that’s how grand jury’s work. For better or worse they are not public like a trial….",
">\n\nI think that means she's planning on indicting him. Why would she want to give his lawyers a heads up on what evidence they have against him?",
">\n\nThe public deserves to hear what trump tried to do here. We’ve all heard the “phone call from hell” and now need to see the evidence against trump and his merry band of dipshits.",
">\n\nThis title leaves out the reason, she doesn’t want the report released until after indictment decisions are announced. Which she says are imminent.",
">\n\nSounds like a boring sensible reason not to release it too early.",
">\n\nPublic opinion is not a legal indictment. As long as the DA is ready to indict, I don’t see a problem.",
">\n\nHeadlines are a helluva drug"
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Grand juries are supposed to be secret
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part.",
">\n\nBefore the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing.",
">\n\nProsecutors are allowed to conduct a grand jury investigation without sharing the details of the investigation until they are ready to hand down indictments. The statement that they are imminent is not even necessary. It’s not the judges investigation nor the judges decision. It would be appealed and lose even if the judge tried to act like a prosecutor.",
">\n\nGo, Fani, go!",
">\n\nIf by law it should be public then it should be public. If there's reluctance to relay the findings then obviously relaying the information goes against certain political agendas",
">\n\nTranslation: theyre trying to come up with a lie",
">\n\nIt is important to keep a case secret. How people don't grasp this I don't understand. \nThey never open the books on RICO case, and this is basically what we have, except with treason.",
">\n\nOh I already “see” the right spin on this: “so, what are they trying to 🫣hide? Probably more Russer, Russer, Russer, one big nothing burger.”\nWhen, in reality, she may be closer to indicting trump for the first time in his entire criminal career and for RICO charges.",
">\n\nBECAUSE THE CASES AGAINST SHITLER ARE STILL ONGOING.\nDuh.",
">\n\nI mean yes, that’s how grand jury’s work. For better or worse they are not public like a trial….",
">\n\nI think that means she's planning on indicting him. Why would she want to give his lawyers a heads up on what evidence they have against him?",
">\n\nThe public deserves to hear what trump tried to do here. We’ve all heard the “phone call from hell” and now need to see the evidence against trump and his merry band of dipshits.",
">\n\nThis title leaves out the reason, she doesn’t want the report released until after indictment decisions are announced. Which she says are imminent.",
">\n\nSounds like a boring sensible reason not to release it too early.",
">\n\nPublic opinion is not a legal indictment. As long as the DA is ready to indict, I don’t see a problem.",
">\n\nHeadlines are a helluva drug",
">\n\nOur democracy is damaged and in need of repair under the heading of trust.\nThis psycho Trump took the classic fascist pathway dividing the nation while exploiting the relatively new platform known as the Internet and its mass reaching social media to ply his narcissist freak show. Now Trump's spectacle has spawned any number of filthy emulators, the names of which you all know and the media henchmen like Steve Bannon and Alex Jones and the Fox Noose creeps.\nThe only answer that satisfies justice with the promise to re-instate our Democracy as irrefutable including the well challenged 2020 POTUS election, is to take this filthy fascist psycho Trump and his surrogates before the full fury of the law. If Trump and his co-conspirators do not meet with the full extent of the law, next time the insurrection won't fail."
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Wake me up when Trump goes to trial or pleads guilty.
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"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part.",
">\n\nBefore the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing.",
">\n\nProsecutors are allowed to conduct a grand jury investigation without sharing the details of the investigation until they are ready to hand down indictments. The statement that they are imminent is not even necessary. It’s not the judges investigation nor the judges decision. It would be appealed and lose even if the judge tried to act like a prosecutor.",
">\n\nGo, Fani, go!",
">\n\nIf by law it should be public then it should be public. If there's reluctance to relay the findings then obviously relaying the information goes against certain political agendas",
">\n\nTranslation: theyre trying to come up with a lie",
">\n\nIt is important to keep a case secret. How people don't grasp this I don't understand. \nThey never open the books on RICO case, and this is basically what we have, except with treason.",
">\n\nOh I already “see” the right spin on this: “so, what are they trying to 🫣hide? Probably more Russer, Russer, Russer, one big nothing burger.”\nWhen, in reality, she may be closer to indicting trump for the first time in his entire criminal career and for RICO charges.",
">\n\nBECAUSE THE CASES AGAINST SHITLER ARE STILL ONGOING.\nDuh.",
">\n\nI mean yes, that’s how grand jury’s work. For better or worse they are not public like a trial….",
">\n\nI think that means she's planning on indicting him. Why would she want to give his lawyers a heads up on what evidence they have against him?",
">\n\nThe public deserves to hear what trump tried to do here. We’ve all heard the “phone call from hell” and now need to see the evidence against trump and his merry band of dipshits.",
">\n\nThis title leaves out the reason, she doesn’t want the report released until after indictment decisions are announced. Which she says are imminent.",
">\n\nSounds like a boring sensible reason not to release it too early.",
">\n\nPublic opinion is not a legal indictment. As long as the DA is ready to indict, I don’t see a problem.",
">\n\nHeadlines are a helluva drug",
">\n\nOur democracy is damaged and in need of repair under the heading of trust.\nThis psycho Trump took the classic fascist pathway dividing the nation while exploiting the relatively new platform known as the Internet and its mass reaching social media to ply his narcissist freak show. Now Trump's spectacle has spawned any number of filthy emulators, the names of which you all know and the media henchmen like Steve Bannon and Alex Jones and the Fox Noose creeps.\nThe only answer that satisfies justice with the promise to re-instate our Democracy as irrefutable including the well challenged 2020 POTUS election, is to take this filthy fascist psycho Trump and his surrogates before the full fury of the law. If Trump and his co-conspirators do not meet with the full extent of the law, next time the insurrection won't fail.",
">\n\nGrand juries are supposed to be secret"
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I feel like Green Day should Remake Wake Me up When September Ends with this idea
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part.",
">\n\nBefore the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing.",
">\n\nProsecutors are allowed to conduct a grand jury investigation without sharing the details of the investigation until they are ready to hand down indictments. The statement that they are imminent is not even necessary. It’s not the judges investigation nor the judges decision. It would be appealed and lose even if the judge tried to act like a prosecutor.",
">\n\nGo, Fani, go!",
">\n\nIf by law it should be public then it should be public. If there's reluctance to relay the findings then obviously relaying the information goes against certain political agendas",
">\n\nTranslation: theyre trying to come up with a lie",
">\n\nIt is important to keep a case secret. How people don't grasp this I don't understand. \nThey never open the books on RICO case, and this is basically what we have, except with treason.",
">\n\nOh I already “see” the right spin on this: “so, what are they trying to 🫣hide? Probably more Russer, Russer, Russer, one big nothing burger.”\nWhen, in reality, she may be closer to indicting trump for the first time in his entire criminal career and for RICO charges.",
">\n\nBECAUSE THE CASES AGAINST SHITLER ARE STILL ONGOING.\nDuh.",
">\n\nI mean yes, that’s how grand jury’s work. For better or worse they are not public like a trial….",
">\n\nI think that means she's planning on indicting him. Why would she want to give his lawyers a heads up on what evidence they have against him?",
">\n\nThe public deserves to hear what trump tried to do here. We’ve all heard the “phone call from hell” and now need to see the evidence against trump and his merry band of dipshits.",
">\n\nThis title leaves out the reason, she doesn’t want the report released until after indictment decisions are announced. Which she says are imminent.",
">\n\nSounds like a boring sensible reason not to release it too early.",
">\n\nPublic opinion is not a legal indictment. As long as the DA is ready to indict, I don’t see a problem.",
">\n\nHeadlines are a helluva drug",
">\n\nOur democracy is damaged and in need of repair under the heading of trust.\nThis psycho Trump took the classic fascist pathway dividing the nation while exploiting the relatively new platform known as the Internet and its mass reaching social media to ply his narcissist freak show. Now Trump's spectacle has spawned any number of filthy emulators, the names of which you all know and the media henchmen like Steve Bannon and Alex Jones and the Fox Noose creeps.\nThe only answer that satisfies justice with the promise to re-instate our Democracy as irrefutable including the well challenged 2020 POTUS election, is to take this filthy fascist psycho Trump and his surrogates before the full fury of the law. If Trump and his co-conspirators do not meet with the full extent of the law, next time the insurrection won't fail.",
">\n\nGrand juries are supposed to be secret",
">\n\nWake me up when Trump goes to trial or pleads guilty."
] |
>
"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but
we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights," Willis
said.
She doesn't want to violate anyone's rights because that's how a good defense attorney gets cases thrown out. She wants to nail each and every one of treasonous assholes.
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part.",
">\n\nBefore the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing.",
">\n\nProsecutors are allowed to conduct a grand jury investigation without sharing the details of the investigation until they are ready to hand down indictments. The statement that they are imminent is not even necessary. It’s not the judges investigation nor the judges decision. It would be appealed and lose even if the judge tried to act like a prosecutor.",
">\n\nGo, Fani, go!",
">\n\nIf by law it should be public then it should be public. If there's reluctance to relay the findings then obviously relaying the information goes against certain political agendas",
">\n\nTranslation: theyre trying to come up with a lie",
">\n\nIt is important to keep a case secret. How people don't grasp this I don't understand. \nThey never open the books on RICO case, and this is basically what we have, except with treason.",
">\n\nOh I already “see” the right spin on this: “so, what are they trying to 🫣hide? Probably more Russer, Russer, Russer, one big nothing burger.”\nWhen, in reality, she may be closer to indicting trump for the first time in his entire criminal career and for RICO charges.",
">\n\nBECAUSE THE CASES AGAINST SHITLER ARE STILL ONGOING.\nDuh.",
">\n\nI mean yes, that’s how grand jury’s work. For better or worse they are not public like a trial….",
">\n\nI think that means she's planning on indicting him. Why would she want to give his lawyers a heads up on what evidence they have against him?",
">\n\nThe public deserves to hear what trump tried to do here. We’ve all heard the “phone call from hell” and now need to see the evidence against trump and his merry band of dipshits.",
">\n\nThis title leaves out the reason, she doesn’t want the report released until after indictment decisions are announced. Which she says are imminent.",
">\n\nSounds like a boring sensible reason not to release it too early.",
">\n\nPublic opinion is not a legal indictment. As long as the DA is ready to indict, I don’t see a problem.",
">\n\nHeadlines are a helluva drug",
">\n\nOur democracy is damaged and in need of repair under the heading of trust.\nThis psycho Trump took the classic fascist pathway dividing the nation while exploiting the relatively new platform known as the Internet and its mass reaching social media to ply his narcissist freak show. Now Trump's spectacle has spawned any number of filthy emulators, the names of which you all know and the media henchmen like Steve Bannon and Alex Jones and the Fox Noose creeps.\nThe only answer that satisfies justice with the promise to re-instate our Democracy as irrefutable including the well challenged 2020 POTUS election, is to take this filthy fascist psycho Trump and his surrogates before the full fury of the law. If Trump and his co-conspirators do not meet with the full extent of the law, next time the insurrection won't fail.",
">\n\nGrand juries are supposed to be secret",
">\n\nWake me up when Trump goes to trial or pleads guilty.",
">\n\nI feel like Green Day should Remake Wake Me up When September Ends with this idea"
] |
>
How is she violating a defendant’s rights by releasing the evidence that shows he broke the law?
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[
"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part.",
">\n\nBefore the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing.",
">\n\nProsecutors are allowed to conduct a grand jury investigation without sharing the details of the investigation until they are ready to hand down indictments. The statement that they are imminent is not even necessary. It’s not the judges investigation nor the judges decision. It would be appealed and lose even if the judge tried to act like a prosecutor.",
">\n\nGo, Fani, go!",
">\n\nIf by law it should be public then it should be public. If there's reluctance to relay the findings then obviously relaying the information goes against certain political agendas",
">\n\nTranslation: theyre trying to come up with a lie",
">\n\nIt is important to keep a case secret. How people don't grasp this I don't understand. \nThey never open the books on RICO case, and this is basically what we have, except with treason.",
">\n\nOh I already “see” the right spin on this: “so, what are they trying to 🫣hide? Probably more Russer, Russer, Russer, one big nothing burger.”\nWhen, in reality, she may be closer to indicting trump for the first time in his entire criminal career and for RICO charges.",
">\n\nBECAUSE THE CASES AGAINST SHITLER ARE STILL ONGOING.\nDuh.",
">\n\nI mean yes, that’s how grand jury’s work. For better or worse they are not public like a trial….",
">\n\nI think that means she's planning on indicting him. Why would she want to give his lawyers a heads up on what evidence they have against him?",
">\n\nThe public deserves to hear what trump tried to do here. We’ve all heard the “phone call from hell” and now need to see the evidence against trump and his merry band of dipshits.",
">\n\nThis title leaves out the reason, she doesn’t want the report released until after indictment decisions are announced. Which she says are imminent.",
">\n\nSounds like a boring sensible reason not to release it too early.",
">\n\nPublic opinion is not a legal indictment. As long as the DA is ready to indict, I don’t see a problem.",
">\n\nHeadlines are a helluva drug",
">\n\nOur democracy is damaged and in need of repair under the heading of trust.\nThis psycho Trump took the classic fascist pathway dividing the nation while exploiting the relatively new platform known as the Internet and its mass reaching social media to ply his narcissist freak show. Now Trump's spectacle has spawned any number of filthy emulators, the names of which you all know and the media henchmen like Steve Bannon and Alex Jones and the Fox Noose creeps.\nThe only answer that satisfies justice with the promise to re-instate our Democracy as irrefutable including the well challenged 2020 POTUS election, is to take this filthy fascist psycho Trump and his surrogates before the full fury of the law. If Trump and his co-conspirators do not meet with the full extent of the law, next time the insurrection won't fail.",
">\n\nGrand juries are supposed to be secret",
">\n\nWake me up when Trump goes to trial or pleads guilty.",
">\n\nI feel like Green Day should Remake Wake Me up When September Ends with this idea",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but\n we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis \nsaid. \nShe doesn't want to violate anyone's rights because that's how a good defense attorney gets cases thrown out. She wants to nail each and every one of treasonous assholes."
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It might be something related to putting together a jury that hasn't been tainted.
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"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part.",
">\n\nBefore the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing.",
">\n\nProsecutors are allowed to conduct a grand jury investigation without sharing the details of the investigation until they are ready to hand down indictments. The statement that they are imminent is not even necessary. It’s not the judges investigation nor the judges decision. It would be appealed and lose even if the judge tried to act like a prosecutor.",
">\n\nGo, Fani, go!",
">\n\nIf by law it should be public then it should be public. If there's reluctance to relay the findings then obviously relaying the information goes against certain political agendas",
">\n\nTranslation: theyre trying to come up with a lie",
">\n\nIt is important to keep a case secret. How people don't grasp this I don't understand. \nThey never open the books on RICO case, and this is basically what we have, except with treason.",
">\n\nOh I already “see” the right spin on this: “so, what are they trying to 🫣hide? Probably more Russer, Russer, Russer, one big nothing burger.”\nWhen, in reality, she may be closer to indicting trump for the first time in his entire criminal career and for RICO charges.",
">\n\nBECAUSE THE CASES AGAINST SHITLER ARE STILL ONGOING.\nDuh.",
">\n\nI mean yes, that’s how grand jury’s work. For better or worse they are not public like a trial….",
">\n\nI think that means she's planning on indicting him. Why would she want to give his lawyers a heads up on what evidence they have against him?",
">\n\nThe public deserves to hear what trump tried to do here. We’ve all heard the “phone call from hell” and now need to see the evidence against trump and his merry band of dipshits.",
">\n\nThis title leaves out the reason, she doesn’t want the report released until after indictment decisions are announced. Which she says are imminent.",
">\n\nSounds like a boring sensible reason not to release it too early.",
">\n\nPublic opinion is not a legal indictment. As long as the DA is ready to indict, I don’t see a problem.",
">\n\nHeadlines are a helluva drug",
">\n\nOur democracy is damaged and in need of repair under the heading of trust.\nThis psycho Trump took the classic fascist pathway dividing the nation while exploiting the relatively new platform known as the Internet and its mass reaching social media to ply his narcissist freak show. Now Trump's spectacle has spawned any number of filthy emulators, the names of which you all know and the media henchmen like Steve Bannon and Alex Jones and the Fox Noose creeps.\nThe only answer that satisfies justice with the promise to re-instate our Democracy as irrefutable including the well challenged 2020 POTUS election, is to take this filthy fascist psycho Trump and his surrogates before the full fury of the law. If Trump and his co-conspirators do not meet with the full extent of the law, next time the insurrection won't fail.",
">\n\nGrand juries are supposed to be secret",
">\n\nWake me up when Trump goes to trial or pleads guilty.",
">\n\nI feel like Green Day should Remake Wake Me up When September Ends with this idea",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but\n we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis \nsaid. \nShe doesn't want to violate anyone's rights because that's how a good defense attorney gets cases thrown out. She wants to nail each and every one of treasonous assholes.",
">\n\nHow is she violating a defendant’s rights by releasing the evidence that shows he broke the law?"
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Given the law and the grand jury’s vote to release their report, I don’t really understand why the DA thinks she has a solid case for not releasing it.
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"TL;DR: DA Fani Willis doesn't want the special grand jury's report to be public, because there is information contained that is essential to future indictments and prosecutions. The contents will become public when this goes to court.\nEdit: LOL, a quickly deleted reply to me was accusing \"you all are no different than the Lock Her Up Crowd\". Because apparently summarizing the facts of an article succinctly is now a partisan act.",
">\n\nso you admit you read the article in direct violation of Reddit's number one tacit rule?",
">\n\nYes.\nShall I wear the French maid outfit for the spanking this time?",
">\n\nYes please, what size pineapple do you prefer?",
">\n\nIt was this film that made me realize hell might not be so bad after all",
">\n\nI'm sure we all know enough people there, we won't be lonely.",
">\n\nIt's the fact that all the people who got into heaven will be watching us on the biblical equivalent of CCTV for all eternity that gives me the creeps.\nThere's no way they'll just be singing hymns all day. The best part about Heaven for them is going to be watching the people they hate getting extremely creatively and incredibly painfully tortured in Hell.",
">\n\nGood thing neither is real.",
">\n\nI like the joke about Satan showing people around Hell and it’s all nice, then they see over a fence and it’s people being burned and tortured and he says “oh those are Christians, they prefer it that way for some reason.”",
">\n\n\"Sometimes we torture them by insisting they choose a safe word, or by just giving them a hug afterwards.\"",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis said.",
">\n\n\nfuture defendants'\n\nThat is quite an important choice of words. That would suggest a decision has been made to charge?",
">\n\nShe literally said “decisions are imminent”",
">\n\nthat's good, but my imminent and her imminent might be different. time is relative.\ni am eager is all i'm saying.",
">\n\nSomeone in lawyer world predicted that he would be indicted on or around January 23rd months ago. I wish I could find it now.",
">\n\nIf they're going to use it to prosecute him they can't make it public or it undermines their case. If they don't prosecute him then it's a coverup.",
">\n\nDoesn't the prosecutor have to tell the defendent what evidence they have before the trial?",
">\n\nIn the United States, the prosecutor is required to disclose to the defense any evidence in their possession that is FAVORABLE to the accused and MATERIAL TO GUILT or punishment as part of the discovery process. This is known as the Brady rule, named after the Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland. This includes physical evidence, witness statements, and any other information that may help the defense prepare for trial or potentially exonerate the defendant. The defense also has the right to request additional evidence from the prosecution through a process known as discovery.",
">\n\nAnd in some states like California, the defense has to give the prosecution discovery also. Both sides know pretty much what evidence us coming in before trial. Not sure if all states have this procedure or not",
">\n\nCalifornia requires discovery by the defendant in a criminal case? That sounds like crap.",
">\n\nI don't need to see it.. I just need to see charges that will stick.",
">\n\n100%. Here's to being cautiously hopeful about it.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Don't wanna poison the jury pool.",
">\n\nDoesn’t want public to see it yet.\nIf he’s prosecuted, doubt she’ll care about the report being public after that’s completed.",
">\n\nIt will make jury selection much more difficult.",
">\n\nJury selection in Fulton County is going to be challenging, but it is unlikely that political affiliation of the county is going to be sufficient ground for a change of venue.",
">\n\nIt will be challenging for Trump’s lawyers for sure! Although Buckhead is Fulton and has plenty of wealthy Republicans…",
">\n\nExactly, not that any of them would be caught dead serving on a jury.",
">\n\nTrue!",
">\n\nWell the good news is that the prison golf team is about to get a lot stronger next year...",
">\n\nBut, I heard the prison golf league is very tough on anyone that uses the foot wedge.",
">\n\n\nIn an Atlanta courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said the report, from a special grand jury, should not be released \"at this time.\" She said its release might impact the rights of multiple defendants if her office brings criminal charges. \nMcBurney appeared skeptical that he had any authority to keep the report private. He pointed out that the district attorney's office, witnesses, and jurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents. Refusing to publish it, he said, would be an additional gag on a subject of great public interest.",
">\n\n\njurors themselves were all free to talk about the report's contents\n\nHave any of them talked yet?",
">\n\nThen indict him already.",
">\n\nThere is a criminal grand jury coming, or it may have already been empaneled. They don't tend to be advertised.",
">\n\nWhat, no billboards!? Where’s the fun in that?!",
">\n\nthat's silliy. \nin the South i get most of my important information from BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY!!!\n/s",
">\n\n…because it would taint the jury pool and other prosecutions.\nBut nice way to stoke a bit more emotional response out of creating ambiguity",
">\n\nOnly a problem if said DA does NOT indict, try, convict and JAIL Marmalade Moses. They USE the stuff the Grand Jury found, no problem. The DA decides to CONCEAL said stuff, BIG problem.",
">\n\nGrand jury is never public until it goes to trial.",
">\n\nNot in Georgia and their 2-grand-jury system apparently",
">\n\nI don't think he knows about second grand jury, Pip.",
">\n\nI never say \"lol\" but I actually lol'd a bit, so I think an LOL is merited here. LOL.",
">\n\nTired of waiting for justice? I sure am.",
">\n\nThe reason is: she wants the state and federal indictments to remain separate, because no one can pardon the state conviction. If a Republican becomes president, he or she would be able to pardon Trump for the federal conviction.",
">\n\nAdd a fucking \"yet\" to the title.\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the public to see it YET, until the prosecution etc.",
">\n\nReleasing it before charges are even levied taints the jury pool and gives Trump's lawyers a way to pack the jury(ies) with MAGA.",
">\n\nHow could they even pick an unbiased jury in this country? You’re either MAGA or you’re absolutely not.",
">\n\nWe've already seen MAGA people on juries shield those in the Trump orbit from culpability. On the flipside, when that happened, another MAGA person on the same jury called bullshit strongly and got the person to relent. This case study shows that Trump likely won't be able to be fully shielded, but perhaps will gain the benefit of a partial political shield in the courtroom.",
">\n\nThe media banding together to push for a reveal irks me. They do such a poor job at everything except trying to generate ratings that I hate that they get to call their activities as supporting \"public interest.\" \nThey do nothing to educate the public. They only incite, tease, mislead but never inform. The public can wait a little bit to have this information. What are we going to do with it? It is not going to change anyone's mind about anything. Even if there is someone who doesn't have a hard and fast opinion on trump who will review this information and changes their mind, it won't do anything for the millions of other people who either want the guy convicted or exonerated in court.",
">\n\nAtlanta DA doesn't want the special grand jury report public because trump and his minions have a nasty habit of harassing witnesses.",
">\n\nWont brian kemp, or the next republican governor of georgia, just pardon trump if he is actually convicted of something?\nSame thing with any federal indictments\nRepublicans have a long track record of party over law/people. They will protect their own, especially with trump.",
">\n\nGeorgia is one of the few states where the governor does not have pardon power. There is a state clemency board. \nAlso, there is a minimum time served before you are even eligible to be considered (and it's multiple years).\nFinally, the appeals courts only can order a retrial to correct improper procedure (say, ruling out certain pieces of evidence), not throw out the whole thing. \nIn other words, a conviction in Georgia is much harder to get out of than a federal one, or indeed in nearly any other state.\nI don't think Willis will end up indicting djt, but I hope I'm wrong.",
">\n\nI did not know that, thank you.",
">\n\nThis is NOT an accurate headline. \nThe DA wants the report released — just not until she makes her decisions around indictments. \nAnd that is a perfectly reasonable stance .",
">\n\nMakes sense if there is to be an indictment coming. You can't let trump baby make the case of a prejudiced jury against him because the information is out there. I want to see everything too, but damn, I'll wait if someone will actually hold him to accountability. I can see the findings after or during the trial. I just want that pos to pay for his crimes; for trying to destroy and continuing to have a hand in the ongoing destruction attempts of this country.",
">\n\nWhy. We all know exactly what happened.",
">\n\nIf they plan on scuttling the investigation, that shit needs to go public. If they withholding pending charges/trial that’s fine. If it goes to trial all the important information should come out during the trial.",
">\n\nFine. Indict already!",
">\n\nNot yet. You forgot that part.",
">\n\nBefore the Orange One gets sent to Hell I want to see live video of him in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffed and chained to the other prisoners. Shuffling down the hall to yet another sentencing hearing.",
">\n\nProsecutors are allowed to conduct a grand jury investigation without sharing the details of the investigation until they are ready to hand down indictments. The statement that they are imminent is not even necessary. It’s not the judges investigation nor the judges decision. It would be appealed and lose even if the judge tried to act like a prosecutor.",
">\n\nGo, Fani, go!",
">\n\nIf by law it should be public then it should be public. If there's reluctance to relay the findings then obviously relaying the information goes against certain political agendas",
">\n\nTranslation: theyre trying to come up with a lie",
">\n\nIt is important to keep a case secret. How people don't grasp this I don't understand. \nThey never open the books on RICO case, and this is basically what we have, except with treason.",
">\n\nOh I already “see” the right spin on this: “so, what are they trying to 🫣hide? Probably more Russer, Russer, Russer, one big nothing burger.”\nWhen, in reality, she may be closer to indicting trump for the first time in his entire criminal career and for RICO charges.",
">\n\nBECAUSE THE CASES AGAINST SHITLER ARE STILL ONGOING.\nDuh.",
">\n\nI mean yes, that’s how grand jury’s work. For better or worse they are not public like a trial….",
">\n\nI think that means she's planning on indicting him. Why would she want to give his lawyers a heads up on what evidence they have against him?",
">\n\nThe public deserves to hear what trump tried to do here. We’ve all heard the “phone call from hell” and now need to see the evidence against trump and his merry band of dipshits.",
">\n\nThis title leaves out the reason, she doesn’t want the report released until after indictment decisions are announced. Which she says are imminent.",
">\n\nSounds like a boring sensible reason not to release it too early.",
">\n\nPublic opinion is not a legal indictment. As long as the DA is ready to indict, I don’t see a problem.",
">\n\nHeadlines are a helluva drug",
">\n\nOur democracy is damaged and in need of repair under the heading of trust.\nThis psycho Trump took the classic fascist pathway dividing the nation while exploiting the relatively new platform known as the Internet and its mass reaching social media to ply his narcissist freak show. Now Trump's spectacle has spawned any number of filthy emulators, the names of which you all know and the media henchmen like Steve Bannon and Alex Jones and the Fox Noose creeps.\nThe only answer that satisfies justice with the promise to re-instate our Democracy as irrefutable including the well challenged 2020 POTUS election, is to take this filthy fascist psycho Trump and his surrogates before the full fury of the law. If Trump and his co-conspirators do not meet with the full extent of the law, next time the insurrection won't fail.",
">\n\nGrand juries are supposed to be secret",
">\n\nWake me up when Trump goes to trial or pleads guilty.",
">\n\nI feel like Green Day should Remake Wake Me up When September Ends with this idea",
">\n\n\"The state understands the media's inquiry and the world's interest, but\n we have to be mindful of protecting future defendants' rights,\" Willis \nsaid. \nShe doesn't want to violate anyone's rights because that's how a good defense attorney gets cases thrown out. She wants to nail each and every one of treasonous assholes.",
">\n\nHow is she violating a defendant’s rights by releasing the evidence that shows he broke the law?",
">\n\nIt might be something related to putting together a jury that hasn't been tainted."
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