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> I contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage." ]
> Neither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals. Source: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated." ]
> Yes they are.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki" ]
> No they aren't Source: Chemist. Hell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are." ]
> For real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)" ]
> Toxic? Yeah sometimes. Heavy? Absolutely not.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha" ]
> Hell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! Honestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not." ]
> Good thing I stopped eating that years ago
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly." ]
> Corporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago" ]
> They probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life." ]
> Aaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate." ]
> As long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂" ]
> Wait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates." ]
> Wait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate" ]
> What is this? Eridian chocolate?
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals." ]
> That and child slaves.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?" ]
> You can’t kill the metal The metal will live on Hershey’s tried to sell the metal But they failed and were sued to the ground
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves." ]
> That better be Black Metal.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground" ]
> Heavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal." ]
> So, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard." ]
> "Cadmium chocolate the best!" Oh, wait! That was Cadbury chocolate!
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.", ">\n\nSo, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us." ]
> Dude, there's no way these dark chocolate kisses are why I have uncontrollable shakes and blackouts.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.", ">\n\nSo, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us.", ">\n\n\"Cadmium chocolate the best!\"\n\nOh, wait! That was Cadbury chocolate!" ]
> I eat iron. What difference does this make if it does contain heavy metal.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.", ">\n\nSo, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us.", ">\n\n\"Cadmium chocolate the best!\"\n\nOh, wait! That was Cadbury chocolate!", ">\n\nDude, there's no way these dark chocolate kisses are why I have uncontrollable shakes and blackouts." ]
> Omfg, I love those chocolates. You bastards need to pay! I hope they take down these manufacturers. That is fucked up! How the hell do heavy metals end up in your chocolates? HOW?!
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.", ">\n\nSo, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us.", ">\n\n\"Cadmium chocolate the best!\"\n\nOh, wait! That was Cadbury chocolate!", ">\n\nDude, there's no way these dark chocolate kisses are why I have uncontrollable shakes and blackouts.", ">\n\nI eat iron. What difference does this make if it does contain heavy metal." ]
> Their quality control definitely failed at their jobs. I do the heavy metals limit testing at my company, not sure how you screw it up this badly. Probably shouldn't blame the QA lab techs though, I expect some executive BS is involved in this.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.", ">\n\nSo, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us.", ">\n\n\"Cadmium chocolate the best!\"\n\nOh, wait! That was Cadbury chocolate!", ">\n\nDude, there's no way these dark chocolate kisses are why I have uncontrollable shakes and blackouts.", ">\n\nI eat iron. What difference does this make if it does contain heavy metal.", ">\n\nOmfg, I love those chocolates. You bastards need to pay! I hope they take down these manufacturers. That is fucked up! How the hell do heavy metals end up in your chocolates? HOW?!" ]
> Hershey’s Metallica Crisp.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.", ">\n\nSo, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us.", ">\n\n\"Cadmium chocolate the best!\"\n\nOh, wait! That was Cadbury chocolate!", ">\n\nDude, there's no way these dark chocolate kisses are why I have uncontrollable shakes and blackouts.", ">\n\nI eat iron. What difference does this make if it does contain heavy metal.", ">\n\nOmfg, I love those chocolates. You bastards need to pay! I hope they take down these manufacturers. That is fucked up! How the hell do heavy metals end up in your chocolates? HOW?!", ">\n\nTheir quality control definitely failed at their jobs. I do the heavy metals limit testing at my company, not sure how you screw it up this badly. \nProbably shouldn't blame the QA lab techs though, I expect some executive BS is involved in this." ]
> That's totally metal brah
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.", ">\n\nSo, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us.", ">\n\n\"Cadmium chocolate the best!\"\n\nOh, wait! That was Cadbury chocolate!", ">\n\nDude, there's no way these dark chocolate kisses are why I have uncontrollable shakes and blackouts.", ">\n\nI eat iron. What difference does this make if it does contain heavy metal.", ">\n\nOmfg, I love those chocolates. You bastards need to pay! I hope they take down these manufacturers. That is fucked up! How the hell do heavy metals end up in your chocolates? HOW?!", ">\n\nTheir quality control definitely failed at their jobs. I do the heavy metals limit testing at my company, not sure how you screw it up this badly. \nProbably shouldn't blame the QA lab techs though, I expect some executive BS is involved in this.", ">\n\nHershey’s Metallica Crisp." ]
> It's not a phase! Let the chocolate live his life, Mom!
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.", ">\n\nSo, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us.", ">\n\n\"Cadmium chocolate the best!\"\n\nOh, wait! That was Cadbury chocolate!", ">\n\nDude, there's no way these dark chocolate kisses are why I have uncontrollable shakes and blackouts.", ">\n\nI eat iron. What difference does this make if it does contain heavy metal.", ">\n\nOmfg, I love those chocolates. You bastards need to pay! I hope they take down these manufacturers. That is fucked up! How the hell do heavy metals end up in your chocolates? HOW?!", ">\n\nTheir quality control definitely failed at their jobs. I do the heavy metals limit testing at my company, not sure how you screw it up this badly. \nProbably shouldn't blame the QA lab techs though, I expect some executive BS is involved in this.", ">\n\nHershey’s Metallica Crisp.", ">\n\nThat's totally metal brah" ]
> C’mon Hershey! I expect this out of Nestle by now, but you too?!
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.", ">\n\nSo, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us.", ">\n\n\"Cadmium chocolate the best!\"\n\nOh, wait! That was Cadbury chocolate!", ">\n\nDude, there's no way these dark chocolate kisses are why I have uncontrollable shakes and blackouts.", ">\n\nI eat iron. What difference does this make if it does contain heavy metal.", ">\n\nOmfg, I love those chocolates. You bastards need to pay! I hope they take down these manufacturers. That is fucked up! How the hell do heavy metals end up in your chocolates? HOW?!", ">\n\nTheir quality control definitely failed at their jobs. I do the heavy metals limit testing at my company, not sure how you screw it up this badly. \nProbably shouldn't blame the QA lab techs though, I expect some executive BS is involved in this.", ">\n\nHershey’s Metallica Crisp.", ">\n\nThat's totally metal brah", ">\n\nIt's not a phase! Let the chocolate live his life, Mom!" ]
> Black Sabbath, Metallica & Motorhead
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.", ">\n\nSo, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us.", ">\n\n\"Cadmium chocolate the best!\"\n\nOh, wait! That was Cadbury chocolate!", ">\n\nDude, there's no way these dark chocolate kisses are why I have uncontrollable shakes and blackouts.", ">\n\nI eat iron. What difference does this make if it does contain heavy metal.", ">\n\nOmfg, I love those chocolates. You bastards need to pay! I hope they take down these manufacturers. That is fucked up! How the hell do heavy metals end up in your chocolates? HOW?!", ">\n\nTheir quality control definitely failed at their jobs. I do the heavy metals limit testing at my company, not sure how you screw it up this badly. \nProbably shouldn't blame the QA lab techs though, I expect some executive BS is involved in this.", ">\n\nHershey’s Metallica Crisp.", ">\n\nThat's totally metal brah", ">\n\nIt's not a phase! Let the chocolate live his life, Mom!", ">\n\nC’mon Hershey! I expect this out of Nestle by now, but you too?!" ]
> Goddammit. Spawn brought home one of those giant Hershey bar gift things.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.", ">\n\nSo, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us.", ">\n\n\"Cadmium chocolate the best!\"\n\nOh, wait! That was Cadbury chocolate!", ">\n\nDude, there's no way these dark chocolate kisses are why I have uncontrollable shakes and blackouts.", ">\n\nI eat iron. What difference does this make if it does contain heavy metal.", ">\n\nOmfg, I love those chocolates. You bastards need to pay! I hope they take down these manufacturers. That is fucked up! How the hell do heavy metals end up in your chocolates? HOW?!", ">\n\nTheir quality control definitely failed at their jobs. I do the heavy metals limit testing at my company, not sure how you screw it up this badly. \nProbably shouldn't blame the QA lab techs though, I expect some executive BS is involved in this.", ">\n\nHershey’s Metallica Crisp.", ">\n\nThat's totally metal brah", ">\n\nIt's not a phase! Let the chocolate live his life, Mom!", ">\n\nC’mon Hershey! I expect this out of Nestle by now, but you too?!", ">\n\nBlack Sabbath, Metallica & Motorhead" ]
> Take a ride....on heavy metal
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.", ">\n\nSo, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us.", ">\n\n\"Cadmium chocolate the best!\"\n\nOh, wait! That was Cadbury chocolate!", ">\n\nDude, there's no way these dark chocolate kisses are why I have uncontrollable shakes and blackouts.", ">\n\nI eat iron. What difference does this make if it does contain heavy metal.", ">\n\nOmfg, I love those chocolates. You bastards need to pay! I hope they take down these manufacturers. That is fucked up! How the hell do heavy metals end up in your chocolates? HOW?!", ">\n\nTheir quality control definitely failed at their jobs. I do the heavy metals limit testing at my company, not sure how you screw it up this badly. \nProbably shouldn't blame the QA lab techs though, I expect some executive BS is involved in this.", ">\n\nHershey’s Metallica Crisp.", ">\n\nThat's totally metal brah", ">\n\nIt's not a phase! Let the chocolate live his life, Mom!", ">\n\nC’mon Hershey! I expect this out of Nestle by now, but you too?!", ">\n\nBlack Sabbath, Metallica & Motorhead", ">\n\nGoddammit.\nSpawn brought home one of those giant Hershey bar gift things." ]
> I like my chocolate with music. Thank you
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.", ">\n\nSo, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us.", ">\n\n\"Cadmium chocolate the best!\"\n\nOh, wait! That was Cadbury chocolate!", ">\n\nDude, there's no way these dark chocolate kisses are why I have uncontrollable shakes and blackouts.", ">\n\nI eat iron. What difference does this make if it does contain heavy metal.", ">\n\nOmfg, I love those chocolates. You bastards need to pay! I hope they take down these manufacturers. That is fucked up! How the hell do heavy metals end up in your chocolates? HOW?!", ">\n\nTheir quality control definitely failed at their jobs. I do the heavy metals limit testing at my company, not sure how you screw it up this badly. \nProbably shouldn't blame the QA lab techs though, I expect some executive BS is involved in this.", ">\n\nHershey’s Metallica Crisp.", ">\n\nThat's totally metal brah", ">\n\nIt's not a phase! Let the chocolate live his life, Mom!", ">\n\nC’mon Hershey! I expect this out of Nestle by now, but you too?!", ">\n\nBlack Sabbath, Metallica & Motorhead", ">\n\nGoddammit.\nSpawn brought home one of those giant Hershey bar gift things.", ">\n\nTake a ride....on heavy metal" ]
> I’m sorry. Um. I know nothing about chocolate other than that I very rarely want any other kind of sweet. So perhaps this is a stupid question. But why is there >0 lead or cadmium in the chocolate AT ALL?
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.", ">\n\nSo, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us.", ">\n\n\"Cadmium chocolate the best!\"\n\nOh, wait! That was Cadbury chocolate!", ">\n\nDude, there's no way these dark chocolate kisses are why I have uncontrollable shakes and blackouts.", ">\n\nI eat iron. What difference does this make if it does contain heavy metal.", ">\n\nOmfg, I love those chocolates. You bastards need to pay! I hope they take down these manufacturers. That is fucked up! How the hell do heavy metals end up in your chocolates? HOW?!", ">\n\nTheir quality control definitely failed at their jobs. I do the heavy metals limit testing at my company, not sure how you screw it up this badly. \nProbably shouldn't blame the QA lab techs though, I expect some executive BS is involved in this.", ">\n\nHershey’s Metallica Crisp.", ">\n\nThat's totally metal brah", ">\n\nIt's not a phase! Let the chocolate live his life, Mom!", ">\n\nC’mon Hershey! I expect this out of Nestle by now, but you too?!", ">\n\nBlack Sabbath, Metallica & Motorhead", ">\n\nGoddammit.\nSpawn brought home one of those giant Hershey bar gift things.", ">\n\nTake a ride....on heavy metal", ">\n\nI like my chocolate with music. Thank you" ]
> Hershey is coming for you, Nestlé.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.", ">\n\nSo, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us.", ">\n\n\"Cadmium chocolate the best!\"\n\nOh, wait! That was Cadbury chocolate!", ">\n\nDude, there's no way these dark chocolate kisses are why I have uncontrollable shakes and blackouts.", ">\n\nI eat iron. What difference does this make if it does contain heavy metal.", ">\n\nOmfg, I love those chocolates. You bastards need to pay! I hope they take down these manufacturers. That is fucked up! How the hell do heavy metals end up in your chocolates? HOW?!", ">\n\nTheir quality control definitely failed at their jobs. I do the heavy metals limit testing at my company, not sure how you screw it up this badly. \nProbably shouldn't blame the QA lab techs though, I expect some executive BS is involved in this.", ">\n\nHershey’s Metallica Crisp.", ">\n\nThat's totally metal brah", ">\n\nIt's not a phase! Let the chocolate live his life, Mom!", ">\n\nC’mon Hershey! I expect this out of Nestle by now, but you too?!", ">\n\nBlack Sabbath, Metallica & Motorhead", ">\n\nGoddammit.\nSpawn brought home one of those giant Hershey bar gift things.", ">\n\nTake a ride....on heavy metal", ">\n\nI like my chocolate with music. Thank you", ">\n\nI’m sorry. Um. I know nothing about chocolate other than that I very rarely want any other kind of sweet. So perhaps this is a stupid question. But why is there >0 lead or cadmium in the chocolate AT ALL?" ]
> Careful with chocolate protein powders…I just found out the one I use is high in Cadmium, ugh.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.", ">\n\nSo, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us.", ">\n\n\"Cadmium chocolate the best!\"\n\nOh, wait! That was Cadbury chocolate!", ">\n\nDude, there's no way these dark chocolate kisses are why I have uncontrollable shakes and blackouts.", ">\n\nI eat iron. What difference does this make if it does contain heavy metal.", ">\n\nOmfg, I love those chocolates. You bastards need to pay! I hope they take down these manufacturers. That is fucked up! How the hell do heavy metals end up in your chocolates? HOW?!", ">\n\nTheir quality control definitely failed at their jobs. I do the heavy metals limit testing at my company, not sure how you screw it up this badly. \nProbably shouldn't blame the QA lab techs though, I expect some executive BS is involved in this.", ">\n\nHershey’s Metallica Crisp.", ">\n\nThat's totally metal brah", ">\n\nIt's not a phase! Let the chocolate live his life, Mom!", ">\n\nC’mon Hershey! I expect this out of Nestle by now, but you too?!", ">\n\nBlack Sabbath, Metallica & Motorhead", ">\n\nGoddammit.\nSpawn brought home one of those giant Hershey bar gift things.", ">\n\nTake a ride....on heavy metal", ">\n\nI like my chocolate with music. Thank you", ">\n\nI’m sorry. Um. I know nothing about chocolate other than that I very rarely want any other kind of sweet. So perhaps this is a stupid question. But why is there >0 lead or cadmium in the chocolate AT ALL?", ">\n\nHershey is coming for you, Nestlé." ]
> Feeling a strange pull as you pass the fridge door magnets. Anyhoo, a company forced to describe their products as ' chocolatey' due to the minimum of actual cocoa in their chocolatey bar.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.", ">\n\nSo, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us.", ">\n\n\"Cadmium chocolate the best!\"\n\nOh, wait! That was Cadbury chocolate!", ">\n\nDude, there's no way these dark chocolate kisses are why I have uncontrollable shakes and blackouts.", ">\n\nI eat iron. What difference does this make if it does contain heavy metal.", ">\n\nOmfg, I love those chocolates. You bastards need to pay! I hope they take down these manufacturers. That is fucked up! How the hell do heavy metals end up in your chocolates? HOW?!", ">\n\nTheir quality control definitely failed at their jobs. I do the heavy metals limit testing at my company, not sure how you screw it up this badly. \nProbably shouldn't blame the QA lab techs though, I expect some executive BS is involved in this.", ">\n\nHershey’s Metallica Crisp.", ">\n\nThat's totally metal brah", ">\n\nIt's not a phase! Let the chocolate live his life, Mom!", ">\n\nC’mon Hershey! I expect this out of Nestle by now, but you too?!", ">\n\nBlack Sabbath, Metallica & Motorhead", ">\n\nGoddammit.\nSpawn brought home one of those giant Hershey bar gift things.", ">\n\nTake a ride....on heavy metal", ">\n\nI like my chocolate with music. Thank you", ">\n\nI’m sorry. Um. I know nothing about chocolate other than that I very rarely want any other kind of sweet. So perhaps this is a stupid question. But why is there >0 lead or cadmium in the chocolate AT ALL?", ">\n\nHershey is coming for you, Nestlé.", ">\n\nCareful with chocolate protein powders…I just found out the one I use is high in Cadmium, ugh." ]
> Wait… Hersheys make chocolate in the first place? that’s the news. Thought all their stuff was just the fake “chocolate flavored” stuff since US regulations are so piss poor against consumers.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.", ">\n\nSo, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us.", ">\n\n\"Cadmium chocolate the best!\"\n\nOh, wait! That was Cadbury chocolate!", ">\n\nDude, there's no way these dark chocolate kisses are why I have uncontrollable shakes and blackouts.", ">\n\nI eat iron. What difference does this make if it does contain heavy metal.", ">\n\nOmfg, I love those chocolates. You bastards need to pay! I hope they take down these manufacturers. That is fucked up! How the hell do heavy metals end up in your chocolates? HOW?!", ">\n\nTheir quality control definitely failed at their jobs. I do the heavy metals limit testing at my company, not sure how you screw it up this badly. \nProbably shouldn't blame the QA lab techs though, I expect some executive BS is involved in this.", ">\n\nHershey’s Metallica Crisp.", ">\n\nThat's totally metal brah", ">\n\nIt's not a phase! Let the chocolate live his life, Mom!", ">\n\nC’mon Hershey! I expect this out of Nestle by now, but you too?!", ">\n\nBlack Sabbath, Metallica & Motorhead", ">\n\nGoddammit.\nSpawn brought home one of those giant Hershey bar gift things.", ">\n\nTake a ride....on heavy metal", ">\n\nI like my chocolate with music. Thank you", ">\n\nI’m sorry. Um. I know nothing about chocolate other than that I very rarely want any other kind of sweet. So perhaps this is a stupid question. But why is there >0 lead or cadmium in the chocolate AT ALL?", ">\n\nHershey is coming for you, Nestlé.", ">\n\nCareful with chocolate protein powders…I just found out the one I use is high in Cadmium, ugh.", ">\n\nFeeling a strange pull as you pass the fridge door magnets. Anyhoo, a company forced to describe their products as ' chocolatey' due to the minimum of actual cocoa in their chocolatey bar." ]
> I guess now we know why Mexico was cheaper than Pennsylvania, no standards!
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.", ">\n\nSo, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us.", ">\n\n\"Cadmium chocolate the best!\"\n\nOh, wait! That was Cadbury chocolate!", ">\n\nDude, there's no way these dark chocolate kisses are why I have uncontrollable shakes and blackouts.", ">\n\nI eat iron. What difference does this make if it does contain heavy metal.", ">\n\nOmfg, I love those chocolates. You bastards need to pay! I hope they take down these manufacturers. That is fucked up! How the hell do heavy metals end up in your chocolates? HOW?!", ">\n\nTheir quality control definitely failed at their jobs. I do the heavy metals limit testing at my company, not sure how you screw it up this badly. \nProbably shouldn't blame the QA lab techs though, I expect some executive BS is involved in this.", ">\n\nHershey’s Metallica Crisp.", ">\n\nThat's totally metal brah", ">\n\nIt's not a phase! Let the chocolate live his life, Mom!", ">\n\nC’mon Hershey! I expect this out of Nestle by now, but you too?!", ">\n\nBlack Sabbath, Metallica & Motorhead", ">\n\nGoddammit.\nSpawn brought home one of those giant Hershey bar gift things.", ">\n\nTake a ride....on heavy metal", ">\n\nI like my chocolate with music. Thank you", ">\n\nI’m sorry. Um. I know nothing about chocolate other than that I very rarely want any other kind of sweet. So perhaps this is a stupid question. But why is there >0 lead or cadmium in the chocolate AT ALL?", ">\n\nHershey is coming for you, Nestlé.", ">\n\nCareful with chocolate protein powders…I just found out the one I use is high in Cadmium, ugh.", ">\n\nFeeling a strange pull as you pass the fridge door magnets. Anyhoo, a company forced to describe their products as ' chocolatey' due to the minimum of actual cocoa in their chocolatey bar.", ">\n\nWait… Hersheys make chocolate in the first place? that’s the news. Thought all their stuff was just the fake “chocolate flavored” stuff since US regulations are so piss poor against consumers." ]
> Is there actually chocolate in Hersheys? I thought it was just flavored brown wax.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.", ">\n\nSo, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us.", ">\n\n\"Cadmium chocolate the best!\"\n\nOh, wait! That was Cadbury chocolate!", ">\n\nDude, there's no way these dark chocolate kisses are why I have uncontrollable shakes and blackouts.", ">\n\nI eat iron. What difference does this make if it does contain heavy metal.", ">\n\nOmfg, I love those chocolates. You bastards need to pay! I hope they take down these manufacturers. That is fucked up! How the hell do heavy metals end up in your chocolates? HOW?!", ">\n\nTheir quality control definitely failed at their jobs. I do the heavy metals limit testing at my company, not sure how you screw it up this badly. \nProbably shouldn't blame the QA lab techs though, I expect some executive BS is involved in this.", ">\n\nHershey’s Metallica Crisp.", ">\n\nThat's totally metal brah", ">\n\nIt's not a phase! Let the chocolate live his life, Mom!", ">\n\nC’mon Hershey! I expect this out of Nestle by now, but you too?!", ">\n\nBlack Sabbath, Metallica & Motorhead", ">\n\nGoddammit.\nSpawn brought home one of those giant Hershey bar gift things.", ">\n\nTake a ride....on heavy metal", ">\n\nI like my chocolate with music. Thank you", ">\n\nI’m sorry. Um. I know nothing about chocolate other than that I very rarely want any other kind of sweet. So perhaps this is a stupid question. But why is there >0 lead or cadmium in the chocolate AT ALL?", ">\n\nHershey is coming for you, Nestlé.", ">\n\nCareful with chocolate protein powders…I just found out the one I use is high in Cadmium, ugh.", ">\n\nFeeling a strange pull as you pass the fridge door magnets. Anyhoo, a company forced to describe their products as ' chocolatey' due to the minimum of actual cocoa in their chocolatey bar.", ">\n\nWait… Hersheys make chocolate in the first place? that’s the news. Thought all their stuff was just the fake “chocolate flavored” stuff since US regulations are so piss poor against consumers.", ">\n\nI guess now we know why Mexico was cheaper than Pennsylvania, no standards!" ]
> Really, it's on Hershey to not take advantage of being the most metal chocolate bar you can eat.
[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.", ">\n\nSo, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us.", ">\n\n\"Cadmium chocolate the best!\"\n\nOh, wait! That was Cadbury chocolate!", ">\n\nDude, there's no way these dark chocolate kisses are why I have uncontrollable shakes and blackouts.", ">\n\nI eat iron. What difference does this make if it does contain heavy metal.", ">\n\nOmfg, I love those chocolates. You bastards need to pay! I hope they take down these manufacturers. That is fucked up! How the hell do heavy metals end up in your chocolates? HOW?!", ">\n\nTheir quality control definitely failed at their jobs. I do the heavy metals limit testing at my company, not sure how you screw it up this badly. \nProbably shouldn't blame the QA lab techs though, I expect some executive BS is involved in this.", ">\n\nHershey’s Metallica Crisp.", ">\n\nThat's totally metal brah", ">\n\nIt's not a phase! Let the chocolate live his life, Mom!", ">\n\nC’mon Hershey! I expect this out of Nestle by now, but you too?!", ">\n\nBlack Sabbath, Metallica & Motorhead", ">\n\nGoddammit.\nSpawn brought home one of those giant Hershey bar gift things.", ">\n\nTake a ride....on heavy metal", ">\n\nI like my chocolate with music. Thank you", ">\n\nI’m sorry. Um. I know nothing about chocolate other than that I very rarely want any other kind of sweet. So perhaps this is a stupid question. But why is there >0 lead or cadmium in the chocolate AT ALL?", ">\n\nHershey is coming for you, Nestlé.", ">\n\nCareful with chocolate protein powders…I just found out the one I use is high in Cadmium, ugh.", ">\n\nFeeling a strange pull as you pass the fridge door magnets. Anyhoo, a company forced to describe their products as ' chocolatey' due to the minimum of actual cocoa in their chocolatey bar.", ">\n\nWait… Hersheys make chocolate in the first place? that’s the news. Thought all their stuff was just the fake “chocolate flavored” stuff since US regulations are so piss poor against consumers.", ">\n\nI guess now we know why Mexico was cheaper than Pennsylvania, no standards!", ">\n\nIs there actually chocolate in Hersheys? I thought it was just flavored brown wax." ]
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[ "I hope lawsuits force chocolate makers to reduce the level of metals. I love dark chocolate and don’t want lead poisoning!", ">\n\nThen where will I get my daily requirement of lead?", ">\n\nAmerican here, just lick a wall", ">\n\nOr just walk down a street on the South Side if Chicago, you'll end up full of lead by the end of the walk", ">\n\nOr any major American city", ">\n\nEh, most major cities have lower murder rates than the those for the general population as a whole. They simply have more murders because they have more people. \nChicago is another story though", ">\n\nPer capita, Chicago isn't even in the top ten in the US.", ">\n\nHence why I specified the South Side. You could also probably include the West Side as well. Those parts of Chicago are some of the worst in the whole country", ">\n\nIt would seem that, as part of the responsibility of making a food, the maker should ensure that it is not poisonous.", ">\n\nIf you think that’s bad, supplements as a whole can be worse. \nThere’s sooo many out there, and none of them are regulated by the FDA, that contain heavy metals. \nYou have to depend on third-party independent testing to see if it’s safe.", ">\n\nWait, why are supplements not regulated? How the fuck can they get away with that?", ">\n\nI would assume supplement enforcement would be more similar to food enforcement than drug enforcement. Just prove to the FDA that your “food” (aka supplements) are not contaminated and is fit for human consumption, then you can sell it", ">\n\nIt’s pharma-lite. More regulation than food, less than pharmaceuticals. \n21 cfr part 111 dedicated to regulation of supplements.", ">\n\nThanks for the regulatory knowledge :)", ">\n\nHappy to help!", ">\n\nAnd I suppose the Cad in Cadbury is for Cadmium?", ">\n\nCadmi-yummy", ">\n\nConsumer Reports:\n\nWe used [California's] levels because there are no federal limits for the amount of lead and cadmium most foods can contain, ...\n\nFDA:\n\nThe FDA monitors and regulates levels of lead in foods, ...\n\nAnd for what it's worth:\n\nThe FDA’s current IRL is calculated at 2.2 µg per day for children and 8.8 µg per day for females of childbearing age (updated in 2022). These levels allow for differences across human populations and are set nearly ten times less than the actual amount of lead intake from food that would be required to reach the CDC’s blood reference level.\n\nPer CR, the highest lead level (Hershey's Special Dark) was 1.325 µg per ounce.\nAlso note that an ounce is, like, 2/3 of a standard size Hershey bar. So we're talking about roughly 2 µg in a bar.", ">\n\nBecause some manufacturers have virtually no lead and cadmium, we know it’s possible for all manufacturers. \nCan’t even believe we need to remind candy companies not to allow poison in the chocolate. Sheesh.", ">\n\nIt's almost certainly an issue with where they grow it. Some soils naturally have lead or were contaminated with lead from leaded gasoline or industrial dischange. The only (feasible) way to remove it is to set aside the field to grow something that bioaccumulates lead for several years, remove all the plant matter to be buried, and then restart cultivation. Or just grow things somewhere else.\nThere's a reason why the dark chocolate had higher lead levels: that probably means it's coming from the cocoa solids, since the cocoa plants bioaccumulated lead in small amounts. It's not like they're slipping lead into the chocolate batch or using lead in their machinery (I hope). It's about where the cocoa is grown.", ">\n\nIt’s more to do with the metals contained in the pots which are heated and used to refine(if that’s the right word?) cocoa, IIRC.\nThe metals then leech from said pots to the cocoa.\nThere was a decent article on this at least 1-2+ years ago but I can’t remember who published it…", ">\n\nSo that's why I was head-banging uncontrollably after eating 6 boxes worth.", ">\n\nMaybe it had Anthrax in it?", ">\n\nSlow clap", ">\n\nReduce the size and keep the weight the same with this one easy trick!", ">\n\nCocoa farmers hate them!", ">\n\nSo was I addicted to the chocolate or the metals?", ">\n\nThe real addiction was the tooth loss we made along the way.", ">\n\nr/unexpectedthegoodplace?", ">\n\nthat line existed before it was used in one joke in a post credits scene in an episode of that show lol", ">\n\nOooh, didn't know that!", ">\n\nIt would be super nice to have a functional FDA.", ">\n\nGot defunded by you know who", ">\n\nNot that the new administration has fixed it.", ">\n\nEven the worst idiots can break things\nTo be fair, the FDA and other agencies have been getting more corrupt as the decades wore on\nBut it takes high level politics and massive cooperation to fix these. Both, at the same time, domestically for the USA federal government, are rarer than hens teeth", ">\n\nThat explains my declining... What are we talking about again?", ">\n\nIdk but I could go for some chocolate right now.", ">\n\nI would be pissed if I got chocolate in my mercury.", ">\n\nHey?!? You got your mercury in my chocolate.\nTwo great tastes that taste great together...", ">\n\nHersheys: Everyone knows chocolate goes with pb. Me: Peanut butter, right? Right?", ">\n\nThis is a clever joke. Thank you 😂", ">\n\nHershey's isn't considered chocolate in the EU.", ">\n\nYes, many in USA doesn’t either.", ">\n\nCalling Hershey chocolate is a small trigger for me. Someone asks me if I like chocolate, then hands me small Hershey bar. \nI love chocolate and you just got me a little excited for that.", ">\n\nWhy is Reuters citing a bogus “study” that dark chocolate is good for your cardiovascular health? That’s been debunked, and the guy that fabricated it, did it to demonstrate how stupid and unregulated medical science journalism is.", ">\n\n\"Just a little bit of metal, guys. Keep it movin'\".", ">\n\nBetter than alt rocks, I guess.", ">\n\nWhat a shitty lawsuit. The heavy metals are necessary. Without them the flavor of child slavery would be overpowering.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing they'll be selling Hershey's dark chocolate supplements next year to dodge the suit?", ">\n\nThere will be a Quiet Riot over this, methinks.", ">\n\nWhat will this mean for any potential partnerships with Metallica for their new album?", ">\n\n🎶 It's yo one way ticket to midnight 🎶", ">\n\nCall it heavy metal 🤘🏻\nBut is heavy metal in Hershey’s safer than the ammonia in cat pee?", ">\n\nHeavy Metal Hershey’s Chocolate seems like a good name for a funk/metal fusion band", ">\n\nAll that aluminum foil on those Hershey's kisses?", ">\n\nUnwrap it first please.", ">\n\nLet him live his life.", ">\n\nAt least now I'm safe from those microwaves", ">\n\nThey should be sued for calling that shit chocolate.", ">\n\nDethklok's newest enterprise: Black Metal Chocolate", ">\n\nDo you folks like coffee.....in the Hill's of Columbia!", ">\n\nIs Alex Jones their CEO?", ">\n\nWhat a pointless article. Lawsuit claiming high levels of lead and cadmium, but no actual numbers? How high are the levels?", ">\n\nYeah I appreciate it. The issue with the whole thing is cacao and other beans like it are high in cadmium and lead. Coffee and tea have the same issue. It's not really a problem though because people should have a moderate intake. It's like suing a fish seller because their cod was found to have high levels of mercury. If you don't want lead and cadmium, don't eat too much food. You're going to take in more lead from licking your fingers after driving to get some KFC and not washing your hands after you fell in the parking lot than you're going to get from eating some chocolate bars.", ">\n\nBrave of you to assume I only eat \"some\" chocolate bars.", ">\n\nCould this cause a megadeth?", ">\n\nIf it did, Hershey would be a slayer for sure", ">\n\nAre we talking like Judas Priest, or more like Van Halen", ">\n\nmoooom why is black sabbath in my hershey’s bar :(", ">\n\nWho cares? That shit is delicious", ">\n\nYou get $1.37. You get $1.37! And you get $1.37!! Everyone gets $1.37….", ">\n\nYea, someone told me Metallica used to eat those by boxes before their concerts. Only after they dropped that practice they were able to perform with symphony orchestra. Iron Maiden still doing it though./s", ">\n\nWell fuck me I just ate a Christmas Hershey bar lol", ">\n\nShit. I’ll be dead soon then after attacking the bag of hershey kisses. 😳", ">\n\nAnd after all of this Hersheys will still have an aftertaste of vomit.", ">\n\nCan confirm. Mine had Anthrax.", ">\n\nMaybe this explains why half the American population has such a low IQ! They just ate a little too much heavy metal chocolate.", ">\n\nlmao and lead exposure, they need to feed their big pharma somehow", ">\n\nHershey can barely be considered chocolate anyway...", ">\n\nFDA Warning: May contain trace amounts of Metallica, has been shown in some cases to lead to Megadeth.", ">\n\nI absolutely hate Hershey’s bars. This is a win for me.", ">\n\nHersheys still isn’t able to legally call their stuff “chocolate”", ">\n\nHershey’s: What’s with you consumers?? When you’re not complaining about our poisonous metals chocolate you’re bitching about our vomit chemical chocolate!", ">\n\nAren’t heavy metals common in chocolate? I know there was a similar scandal with chocolate flavored protein powder a few years back. The issue was some brands used real chocolate and that resulted in heavy metals in the powder", ">\n\nWait... who still thinks Hershey's product is actually chocolate? That shit gives me heartburn anytime I eat that garbage.", ">\n\nI contend like a certain amount of animal products, that are allowed in certain products,… sometimes. Some heavy metals like lithium and aluminum are tolerated.", ">\n\nNeither lithium or aluminum are heavy metals.\nSource: I develop biosensing platforms for many contaminants including heavy metals and here’s a wiki", ">\n\nYes they are.", ">\n\nNo they aren't\nSource:\nChemist.\nHell, lithium is literally the lightest metal (by atomic mass)", ">\n\nFor real! This person is conflating two different things. If you read the rest of their posts they claim alumina is a heavy metal as well hahahaha", ">\n\nToxic? Yeah sometimes.\nHeavy? Absolutely not.", ">\n\nHell! Everything is toxic if you are exposed to too much. Too much oxygen… dead! Too much water… dead! \nHonestly, I think this poster is someone who may work in the office at some environmental regulatory place and is getting bureaucratic terms mixed with scientific terms. I looked up the regulations they “sourced” and there is some mention of aluminum (nothing about Li) as something they test for, but they don’t distinguish it as a heavy metal. They list the big nine toxic heavy metals, too, but also other contaminants. Probably why they mentioned aluminum oxide but think it’s even a metal when it most certainly is not. Reminds me of all the anti-vaxxed BS thinking compounds with mercury were poisonous. With the same logic sodium chloride must be deadly.", ">\n\nGood thing I stopped eating that years ago", ">\n\nCorporations poison us daily. Another day another headline. I hate this system of capital over everything else including life.", ">\n\nThey probably should be sued for putting the puke chemical in the chocolate. Although apparently Americans actually prefer puke flavoured chocolate.", ">\n\nAaaaas I just ate a handful of Hersey kisses 😂", ">\n\nAs long as they were milk chocolate, this suit isn't really relevant. It - and the Consumer Reports study that prompted it - are all about darker chocolates.", ">\n\nWait till you find out that milk chocolate is made with dark chocolate", ">\n\nWait until you find out that it has 1/5 or less as much cacao as darker chocolates and thus proportionately less of the troublesome metals.", ">\n\nWhat is this? Eridian chocolate?", ">\n\nThat and child slaves.", ">\n\nYou can’t kill the metal\nThe metal will live on\nHershey’s tried to sell the metal\nBut they failed and were sued to the ground", ">\n\nThat better be Black Metal.", ">\n\nHeavy metal fillers is the worst kind of shrinkflation I've heard.", ">\n\nSo, does the recipe call for lead? Is it because the machines cause it? Or,is this natural metals found in anything that grows in soil? I just don’t understand if it were the first, better safety for the second. It sure what to do when the plants start ‘happening” to kill us.", ">\n\n\"Cadmium chocolate the best!\"\n\nOh, wait! That was Cadbury chocolate!", ">\n\nDude, there's no way these dark chocolate kisses are why I have uncontrollable shakes and blackouts.", ">\n\nI eat iron. What difference does this make if it does contain heavy metal.", ">\n\nOmfg, I love those chocolates. You bastards need to pay! I hope they take down these manufacturers. That is fucked up! How the hell do heavy metals end up in your chocolates? HOW?!", ">\n\nTheir quality control definitely failed at their jobs. I do the heavy metals limit testing at my company, not sure how you screw it up this badly. \nProbably shouldn't blame the QA lab techs though, I expect some executive BS is involved in this.", ">\n\nHershey’s Metallica Crisp.", ">\n\nThat's totally metal brah", ">\n\nIt's not a phase! Let the chocolate live his life, Mom!", ">\n\nC’mon Hershey! I expect this out of Nestle by now, but you too?!", ">\n\nBlack Sabbath, Metallica & Motorhead", ">\n\nGoddammit.\nSpawn brought home one of those giant Hershey bar gift things.", ">\n\nTake a ride....on heavy metal", ">\n\nI like my chocolate with music. Thank you", ">\n\nI’m sorry. Um. I know nothing about chocolate other than that I very rarely want any other kind of sweet. So perhaps this is a stupid question. But why is there >0 lead or cadmium in the chocolate AT ALL?", ">\n\nHershey is coming for you, Nestlé.", ">\n\nCareful with chocolate protein powders…I just found out the one I use is high in Cadmium, ugh.", ">\n\nFeeling a strange pull as you pass the fridge door magnets. Anyhoo, a company forced to describe their products as ' chocolatey' due to the minimum of actual cocoa in their chocolatey bar.", ">\n\nWait… Hersheys make chocolate in the first place? that’s the news. Thought all their stuff was just the fake “chocolate flavored” stuff since US regulations are so piss poor against consumers.", ">\n\nI guess now we know why Mexico was cheaper than Pennsylvania, no standards!", ">\n\nIs there actually chocolate in Hersheys? I thought it was just flavored brown wax.", ">\n\nReally, it's on Hershey to not take advantage of being the most metal chocolate bar you can eat." ]
He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.
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> “I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’” This guy? Shameless? What a shocker.
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame." ]
> I'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. No oppo?
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker." ]
> Some things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point. There are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch. I'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?" ]
> George Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. He’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that." ]
> That is a hell of a conicidence.
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do." ]
> Wouldn't damn near any employee in any other field, other than politics, be fired if their whole resume was found to be a lie?? Santos should be sent packing ASAP. Ridiculous.
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.", ">\n\nThat is a hell of a conicidence." ]
> Santos is trump sleaze at its finest
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.", ">\n\nThat is a hell of a conicidence.", ">\n\nWouldn't damn near any employee in any other field, other than politics, be fired if their whole resume was found to be a lie?? Santos should be sent packing ASAP. Ridiculous." ]
> Lol Today's Republicans have no shame or sense of honor... that would never happen.
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.", ">\n\nThat is a hell of a conicidence.", ">\n\nWouldn't damn near any employee in any other field, other than politics, be fired if their whole resume was found to be a lie?? Santos should be sent packing ASAP. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nSantos is trump sleaze at its finest" ]
> I think Zimmerman completely dropping the ball on opposition research against Santos means he should never be trusted to head a campaign again.
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.", ">\n\nThat is a hell of a conicidence.", ">\n\nWouldn't damn near any employee in any other field, other than politics, be fired if their whole resume was found to be a lie?? Santos should be sent packing ASAP. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nSantos is trump sleaze at its finest", ">\n\nLol Today's Republicans have no shame or sense of honor... that would never happen." ]
> This has been driving me nuts too. Had the Suozzi or Zimmerman campaigns done even minimal research, they'd have started finding this stuff the week after the Republican primary was over. How fucking incompetent does a Congressional campaign have to be to just completely refuse to do even cursory opposition research?!?
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.", ">\n\nThat is a hell of a conicidence.", ">\n\nWouldn't damn near any employee in any other field, other than politics, be fired if their whole resume was found to be a lie?? Santos should be sent packing ASAP. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nSantos is trump sleaze at its finest", ">\n\nLol Today's Republicans have no shame or sense of honor... that would never happen.", ">\n\nI think Zimmerman completely dropping the ball on opposition research against Santos means he should never be trusted to head a campaign again." ]
> Even worse is that apparently they knew some stuff was fishy but they didn’t know for sure so they pussyfooted a few questions about his background but were afraid to fully commit without fully knowing he was a fraud. Like, they fucking knew to look but just didn’t. “Oops nobody in the media is doing an investigation for us so I guess we should just clam up about all this fraud”.
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.", ">\n\nThat is a hell of a conicidence.", ">\n\nWouldn't damn near any employee in any other field, other than politics, be fired if their whole resume was found to be a lie?? Santos should be sent packing ASAP. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nSantos is trump sleaze at its finest", ">\n\nLol Today's Republicans have no shame or sense of honor... that would never happen.", ">\n\nI think Zimmerman completely dropping the ball on opposition research against Santos means he should never be trusted to head a campaign again.", ">\n\nThis has been driving me nuts too. Had the Suozzi or Zimmerman campaigns done even minimal research, they'd have started finding this stuff the week after the Republican primary was over. How fucking incompetent does a Congressional campaign have to be to just completely refuse to do even cursory opposition research?!?" ]
> Never ever going to happen. There are literal child traffickers in the GOP house.
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.", ">\n\nThat is a hell of a conicidence.", ">\n\nWouldn't damn near any employee in any other field, other than politics, be fired if their whole resume was found to be a lie?? Santos should be sent packing ASAP. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nSantos is trump sleaze at its finest", ">\n\nLol Today's Republicans have no shame or sense of honor... that would never happen.", ">\n\nI think Zimmerman completely dropping the ball on opposition research against Santos means he should never be trusted to head a campaign again.", ">\n\nThis has been driving me nuts too. Had the Suozzi or Zimmerman campaigns done even minimal research, they'd have started finding this stuff the week after the Republican primary was over. How fucking incompetent does a Congressional campaign have to be to just completely refuse to do even cursory opposition research?!?", ">\n\nEven worse is that apparently they knew some stuff was fishy but they didn’t know for sure so they pussyfooted a few questions about his background but were afraid to fully commit without fully knowing he was a fraud. Like, they fucking knew to look but just didn’t. “Oops nobody in the media is doing an investigation for us so I guess we should just clam up about all this fraud”." ]
> "The embattled Santos shot back at his erst-while challenger in a press conference this evening, telling an increasingly hostile public that Zimmerman 'would not last two minutes in his dojo' because 'Sensei Steve was a top-ranked sensei in the Marines'." "Attempts by the press to ascertain whether Santos's brand new katana was in fact made of 'finest Nippon steel folded 10,000 times'."
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.", ">\n\nThat is a hell of a conicidence.", ">\n\nWouldn't damn near any employee in any other field, other than politics, be fired if their whole resume was found to be a lie?? Santos should be sent packing ASAP. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nSantos is trump sleaze at its finest", ">\n\nLol Today's Republicans have no shame or sense of honor... that would never happen.", ">\n\nI think Zimmerman completely dropping the ball on opposition research against Santos means he should never be trusted to head a campaign again.", ">\n\nThis has been driving me nuts too. Had the Suozzi or Zimmerman campaigns done even minimal research, they'd have started finding this stuff the week after the Republican primary was over. How fucking incompetent does a Congressional campaign have to be to just completely refuse to do even cursory opposition research?!?", ">\n\nEven worse is that apparently they knew some stuff was fishy but they didn’t know for sure so they pussyfooted a few questions about his background but were afraid to fully commit without fully knowing he was a fraud. Like, they fucking knew to look but just didn’t. “Oops nobody in the media is doing an investigation for us so I guess we should just clam up about all this fraud”.", ">\n\nNever ever going to happen. There are literal child traffickers in the GOP house." ]
> The chucklefucks trying to equate not catching fraud with fraud make me laugh.
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.", ">\n\nThat is a hell of a conicidence.", ">\n\nWouldn't damn near any employee in any other field, other than politics, be fired if their whole resume was found to be a lie?? Santos should be sent packing ASAP. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nSantos is trump sleaze at its finest", ">\n\nLol Today's Republicans have no shame or sense of honor... that would never happen.", ">\n\nI think Zimmerman completely dropping the ball on opposition research against Santos means he should never be trusted to head a campaign again.", ">\n\nThis has been driving me nuts too. Had the Suozzi or Zimmerman campaigns done even minimal research, they'd have started finding this stuff the week after the Republican primary was over. How fucking incompetent does a Congressional campaign have to be to just completely refuse to do even cursory opposition research?!?", ">\n\nEven worse is that apparently they knew some stuff was fishy but they didn’t know for sure so they pussyfooted a few questions about his background but were afraid to fully commit without fully knowing he was a fraud. Like, they fucking knew to look but just didn’t. “Oops nobody in the media is doing an investigation for us so I guess we should just clam up about all this fraud”.", ">\n\nNever ever going to happen. There are literal child traffickers in the GOP house.", ">\n\n\"The embattled Santos shot back at his erst-while challenger in a press conference this evening, telling an increasingly hostile public that Zimmerman 'would not last two minutes in his dojo' because 'Sensei Steve was a top-ranked sensei in the Marines'.\"\n\"Attempts by the press to ascertain whether Santos's brand new katana was in fact made of 'finest Nippon steel folded 10,000 times'.\"" ]
> Goddamn Dems, always appealing to sense of honor they KNOW the GOP doesn't have
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.", ">\n\nThat is a hell of a conicidence.", ">\n\nWouldn't damn near any employee in any other field, other than politics, be fired if their whole resume was found to be a lie?? Santos should be sent packing ASAP. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nSantos is trump sleaze at its finest", ">\n\nLol Today's Republicans have no shame or sense of honor... that would never happen.", ">\n\nI think Zimmerman completely dropping the ball on opposition research against Santos means he should never be trusted to head a campaign again.", ">\n\nThis has been driving me nuts too. Had the Suozzi or Zimmerman campaigns done even minimal research, they'd have started finding this stuff the week after the Republican primary was over. How fucking incompetent does a Congressional campaign have to be to just completely refuse to do even cursory opposition research?!?", ">\n\nEven worse is that apparently they knew some stuff was fishy but they didn’t know for sure so they pussyfooted a few questions about his background but were afraid to fully commit without fully knowing he was a fraud. Like, they fucking knew to look but just didn’t. “Oops nobody in the media is doing an investigation for us so I guess we should just clam up about all this fraud”.", ">\n\nNever ever going to happen. There are literal child traffickers in the GOP house.", ">\n\n\"The embattled Santos shot back at his erst-while challenger in a press conference this evening, telling an increasingly hostile public that Zimmerman 'would not last two minutes in his dojo' because 'Sensei Steve was a top-ranked sensei in the Marines'.\"\n\"Attempts by the press to ascertain whether Santos's brand new katana was in fact made of 'finest Nippon steel folded 10,000 times'.\"", ">\n\nThe chucklefucks trying to equate not catching fraud with fraud make me laugh." ]
> If somehow there is a reelection, it will be close to 50-50. It seems any election is almost 50-50. Bigg Mac vetse a shit sandwich: too close to call at 50-50. .
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.", ">\n\nThat is a hell of a conicidence.", ">\n\nWouldn't damn near any employee in any other field, other than politics, be fired if their whole resume was found to be a lie?? Santos should be sent packing ASAP. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nSantos is trump sleaze at its finest", ">\n\nLol Today's Republicans have no shame or sense of honor... that would never happen.", ">\n\nI think Zimmerman completely dropping the ball on opposition research against Santos means he should never be trusted to head a campaign again.", ">\n\nThis has been driving me nuts too. Had the Suozzi or Zimmerman campaigns done even minimal research, they'd have started finding this stuff the week after the Republican primary was over. How fucking incompetent does a Congressional campaign have to be to just completely refuse to do even cursory opposition research?!?", ">\n\nEven worse is that apparently they knew some stuff was fishy but they didn’t know for sure so they pussyfooted a few questions about his background but were afraid to fully commit without fully knowing he was a fraud. Like, they fucking knew to look but just didn’t. “Oops nobody in the media is doing an investigation for us so I guess we should just clam up about all this fraud”.", ">\n\nNever ever going to happen. There are literal child traffickers in the GOP house.", ">\n\n\"The embattled Santos shot back at his erst-while challenger in a press conference this evening, telling an increasingly hostile public that Zimmerman 'would not last two minutes in his dojo' because 'Sensei Steve was a top-ranked sensei in the Marines'.\"\n\"Attempts by the press to ascertain whether Santos's brand new katana was in fact made of 'finest Nippon steel folded 10,000 times'.\"", ">\n\nThe chucklefucks trying to equate not catching fraud with fraud make me laugh.", ">\n\nGoddamn Dems, always appealing to sense of honor they KNOW the GOP doesn't have" ]
> Santos. Him and Kari lake have matching skin, like 1st gen synthetic humans
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.", ">\n\nThat is a hell of a conicidence.", ">\n\nWouldn't damn near any employee in any other field, other than politics, be fired if their whole resume was found to be a lie?? Santos should be sent packing ASAP. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nSantos is trump sleaze at its finest", ">\n\nLol Today's Republicans have no shame or sense of honor... that would never happen.", ">\n\nI think Zimmerman completely dropping the ball on opposition research against Santos means he should never be trusted to head a campaign again.", ">\n\nThis has been driving me nuts too. Had the Suozzi or Zimmerman campaigns done even minimal research, they'd have started finding this stuff the week after the Republican primary was over. How fucking incompetent does a Congressional campaign have to be to just completely refuse to do even cursory opposition research?!?", ">\n\nEven worse is that apparently they knew some stuff was fishy but they didn’t know for sure so they pussyfooted a few questions about his background but were afraid to fully commit without fully knowing he was a fraud. Like, they fucking knew to look but just didn’t. “Oops nobody in the media is doing an investigation for us so I guess we should just clam up about all this fraud”.", ">\n\nNever ever going to happen. There are literal child traffickers in the GOP house.", ">\n\n\"The embattled Santos shot back at his erst-while challenger in a press conference this evening, telling an increasingly hostile public that Zimmerman 'would not last two minutes in his dojo' because 'Sensei Steve was a top-ranked sensei in the Marines'.\"\n\"Attempts by the press to ascertain whether Santos's brand new katana was in fact made of 'finest Nippon steel folded 10,000 times'.\"", ">\n\nThe chucklefucks trying to equate not catching fraud with fraud make me laugh.", ">\n\nGoddamn Dems, always appealing to sense of honor they KNOW the GOP doesn't have", ">\n\nIf somehow there is a reelection, it will be close to 50-50.\nIt seems any election is almost 50-50.\nBigg Mac vetse a shit sandwich: too close to call at 50-50. ." ]
> You know, obviously this Santos guy has no business being in the House of Representatives, but if you as an incumbent can’t figure this stuff about your challenger BEFORE THE FREAKING ELECTION I have doubts about whether you really want or are up for the job, just saying. I say let the seat stay vacant until 2024.
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.", ">\n\nThat is a hell of a conicidence.", ">\n\nWouldn't damn near any employee in any other field, other than politics, be fired if their whole resume was found to be a lie?? Santos should be sent packing ASAP. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nSantos is trump sleaze at its finest", ">\n\nLol Today's Republicans have no shame or sense of honor... that would never happen.", ">\n\nI think Zimmerman completely dropping the ball on opposition research against Santos means he should never be trusted to head a campaign again.", ">\n\nThis has been driving me nuts too. Had the Suozzi or Zimmerman campaigns done even minimal research, they'd have started finding this stuff the week after the Republican primary was over. How fucking incompetent does a Congressional campaign have to be to just completely refuse to do even cursory opposition research?!?", ">\n\nEven worse is that apparently they knew some stuff was fishy but they didn’t know for sure so they pussyfooted a few questions about his background but were afraid to fully commit without fully knowing he was a fraud. Like, they fucking knew to look but just didn’t. “Oops nobody in the media is doing an investigation for us so I guess we should just clam up about all this fraud”.", ">\n\nNever ever going to happen. There are literal child traffickers in the GOP house.", ">\n\n\"The embattled Santos shot back at his erst-while challenger in a press conference this evening, telling an increasingly hostile public that Zimmerman 'would not last two minutes in his dojo' because 'Sensei Steve was a top-ranked sensei in the Marines'.\"\n\"Attempts by the press to ascertain whether Santos's brand new katana was in fact made of 'finest Nippon steel folded 10,000 times'.\"", ">\n\nThe chucklefucks trying to equate not catching fraud with fraud make me laugh.", ">\n\nGoddamn Dems, always appealing to sense of honor they KNOW the GOP doesn't have", ">\n\nIf somehow there is a reelection, it will be close to 50-50.\nIt seems any election is almost 50-50.\nBigg Mac vetse a shit sandwich: too close to call at 50-50. .", ">\n\nSantos. Him and Kari lake have matching skin, like 1st gen synthetic humans" ]
> Zimmerman was not the incumbent. Tom Suozzi was. He ran for governor and lost in the primary. The DCCC did oppo research but no major media picked it up because it isn’t a city district. The election was lost on Hochul swinging the district 20 points rightward and dem collapse in NY at the statewide level, because of generic, mainly economic issues like inflation. Zimmerman actually overperformed Hochul in the district by ~3 points.
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.", ">\n\nThat is a hell of a conicidence.", ">\n\nWouldn't damn near any employee in any other field, other than politics, be fired if their whole resume was found to be a lie?? Santos should be sent packing ASAP. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nSantos is trump sleaze at its finest", ">\n\nLol Today's Republicans have no shame or sense of honor... that would never happen.", ">\n\nI think Zimmerman completely dropping the ball on opposition research against Santos means he should never be trusted to head a campaign again.", ">\n\nThis has been driving me nuts too. Had the Suozzi or Zimmerman campaigns done even minimal research, they'd have started finding this stuff the week after the Republican primary was over. How fucking incompetent does a Congressional campaign have to be to just completely refuse to do even cursory opposition research?!?", ">\n\nEven worse is that apparently they knew some stuff was fishy but they didn’t know for sure so they pussyfooted a few questions about his background but were afraid to fully commit without fully knowing he was a fraud. Like, they fucking knew to look but just didn’t. “Oops nobody in the media is doing an investigation for us so I guess we should just clam up about all this fraud”.", ">\n\nNever ever going to happen. There are literal child traffickers in the GOP house.", ">\n\n\"The embattled Santos shot back at his erst-while challenger in a press conference this evening, telling an increasingly hostile public that Zimmerman 'would not last two minutes in his dojo' because 'Sensei Steve was a top-ranked sensei in the Marines'.\"\n\"Attempts by the press to ascertain whether Santos's brand new katana was in fact made of 'finest Nippon steel folded 10,000 times'.\"", ">\n\nThe chucklefucks trying to equate not catching fraud with fraud make me laugh.", ">\n\nGoddamn Dems, always appealing to sense of honor they KNOW the GOP doesn't have", ">\n\nIf somehow there is a reelection, it will be close to 50-50.\nIt seems any election is almost 50-50.\nBigg Mac vetse a shit sandwich: too close to call at 50-50. .", ">\n\nSantos. Him and Kari lake have matching skin, like 1st gen synthetic humans", ">\n\nYou know, obviously this Santos guy has no business being in the House of Representatives, but if you as an incumbent can’t figure this stuff about your challenger BEFORE THE FREAKING ELECTION I have doubts about whether you really want or are up for the job, just saying. I say let the seat stay vacant until 2024." ]
> Fair enough I suppose, still feel like the DCCC at least should have been more in the game, but I guess you can’t defend everywhere… I’ll just look at it as an easy pickup in ‘24…. Hopefully.
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.", ">\n\nThat is a hell of a conicidence.", ">\n\nWouldn't damn near any employee in any other field, other than politics, be fired if their whole resume was found to be a lie?? Santos should be sent packing ASAP. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nSantos is trump sleaze at its finest", ">\n\nLol Today's Republicans have no shame or sense of honor... that would never happen.", ">\n\nI think Zimmerman completely dropping the ball on opposition research against Santos means he should never be trusted to head a campaign again.", ">\n\nThis has been driving me nuts too. Had the Suozzi or Zimmerman campaigns done even minimal research, they'd have started finding this stuff the week after the Republican primary was over. How fucking incompetent does a Congressional campaign have to be to just completely refuse to do even cursory opposition research?!?", ">\n\nEven worse is that apparently they knew some stuff was fishy but they didn’t know for sure so they pussyfooted a few questions about his background but were afraid to fully commit without fully knowing he was a fraud. Like, they fucking knew to look but just didn’t. “Oops nobody in the media is doing an investigation for us so I guess we should just clam up about all this fraud”.", ">\n\nNever ever going to happen. There are literal child traffickers in the GOP house.", ">\n\n\"The embattled Santos shot back at his erst-while challenger in a press conference this evening, telling an increasingly hostile public that Zimmerman 'would not last two minutes in his dojo' because 'Sensei Steve was a top-ranked sensei in the Marines'.\"\n\"Attempts by the press to ascertain whether Santos's brand new katana was in fact made of 'finest Nippon steel folded 10,000 times'.\"", ">\n\nThe chucklefucks trying to equate not catching fraud with fraud make me laugh.", ">\n\nGoddamn Dems, always appealing to sense of honor they KNOW the GOP doesn't have", ">\n\nIf somehow there is a reelection, it will be close to 50-50.\nIt seems any election is almost 50-50.\nBigg Mac vetse a shit sandwich: too close to call at 50-50. .", ">\n\nSantos. Him and Kari lake have matching skin, like 1st gen synthetic humans", ">\n\nYou know, obviously this Santos guy has no business being in the House of Representatives, but if you as an incumbent can’t figure this stuff about your challenger BEFORE THE FREAKING ELECTION I have doubts about whether you really want or are up for the job, just saying. I say let the seat stay vacant until 2024.", ">\n\nZimmerman was not the incumbent. Tom Suozzi was. He ran for governor and lost in the primary. The DCCC did oppo research but no major media picked it up because it isn’t a city district. The election was lost on Hochul swinging the district 20 points rightward and dem collapse in NY at the statewide level, because of generic, mainly economic issues like inflation. Zimmerman actually overperformed Hochul in the district by ~3 points." ]
> Zimmerman needs to sit down and shut up. His campaign didn’t do even the slightest bit of opposition research. The other guy is clearly mentally ill. What’s Zimmerman’s excuse
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.", ">\n\nThat is a hell of a conicidence.", ">\n\nWouldn't damn near any employee in any other field, other than politics, be fired if their whole resume was found to be a lie?? Santos should be sent packing ASAP. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nSantos is trump sleaze at its finest", ">\n\nLol Today's Republicans have no shame or sense of honor... that would never happen.", ">\n\nI think Zimmerman completely dropping the ball on opposition research against Santos means he should never be trusted to head a campaign again.", ">\n\nThis has been driving me nuts too. Had the Suozzi or Zimmerman campaigns done even minimal research, they'd have started finding this stuff the week after the Republican primary was over. How fucking incompetent does a Congressional campaign have to be to just completely refuse to do even cursory opposition research?!?", ">\n\nEven worse is that apparently they knew some stuff was fishy but they didn’t know for sure so they pussyfooted a few questions about his background but were afraid to fully commit without fully knowing he was a fraud. Like, they fucking knew to look but just didn’t. “Oops nobody in the media is doing an investigation for us so I guess we should just clam up about all this fraud”.", ">\n\nNever ever going to happen. There are literal child traffickers in the GOP house.", ">\n\n\"The embattled Santos shot back at his erst-while challenger in a press conference this evening, telling an increasingly hostile public that Zimmerman 'would not last two minutes in his dojo' because 'Sensei Steve was a top-ranked sensei in the Marines'.\"\n\"Attempts by the press to ascertain whether Santos's brand new katana was in fact made of 'finest Nippon steel folded 10,000 times'.\"", ">\n\nThe chucklefucks trying to equate not catching fraud with fraud make me laugh.", ">\n\nGoddamn Dems, always appealing to sense of honor they KNOW the GOP doesn't have", ">\n\nIf somehow there is a reelection, it will be close to 50-50.\nIt seems any election is almost 50-50.\nBigg Mac vetse a shit sandwich: too close to call at 50-50. .", ">\n\nSantos. Him and Kari lake have matching skin, like 1st gen synthetic humans", ">\n\nYou know, obviously this Santos guy has no business being in the House of Representatives, but if you as an incumbent can’t figure this stuff about your challenger BEFORE THE FREAKING ELECTION I have doubts about whether you really want or are up for the job, just saying. I say let the seat stay vacant until 2024.", ">\n\nZimmerman was not the incumbent. Tom Suozzi was. He ran for governor and lost in the primary. The DCCC did oppo research but no major media picked it up because it isn’t a city district. The election was lost on Hochul swinging the district 20 points rightward and dem collapse in NY at the statewide level, because of generic, mainly economic issues like inflation. Zimmerman actually overperformed Hochul in the district by ~3 points.", ">\n\nFair enough I suppose, still feel like the DCCC at least should have been more in the game, but I guess you can’t defend everywhere… I’ll just look at it as an easy pickup in ‘24…. Hopefully." ]
> "Dem calls for a Mulligan."
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.", ">\n\nThat is a hell of a conicidence.", ">\n\nWouldn't damn near any employee in any other field, other than politics, be fired if their whole resume was found to be a lie?? Santos should be sent packing ASAP. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nSantos is trump sleaze at its finest", ">\n\nLol Today's Republicans have no shame or sense of honor... that would never happen.", ">\n\nI think Zimmerman completely dropping the ball on opposition research against Santos means he should never be trusted to head a campaign again.", ">\n\nThis has been driving me nuts too. Had the Suozzi or Zimmerman campaigns done even minimal research, they'd have started finding this stuff the week after the Republican primary was over. How fucking incompetent does a Congressional campaign have to be to just completely refuse to do even cursory opposition research?!?", ">\n\nEven worse is that apparently they knew some stuff was fishy but they didn’t know for sure so they pussyfooted a few questions about his background but were afraid to fully commit without fully knowing he was a fraud. Like, they fucking knew to look but just didn’t. “Oops nobody in the media is doing an investigation for us so I guess we should just clam up about all this fraud”.", ">\n\nNever ever going to happen. There are literal child traffickers in the GOP house.", ">\n\n\"The embattled Santos shot back at his erst-while challenger in a press conference this evening, telling an increasingly hostile public that Zimmerman 'would not last two minutes in his dojo' because 'Sensei Steve was a top-ranked sensei in the Marines'.\"\n\"Attempts by the press to ascertain whether Santos's brand new katana was in fact made of 'finest Nippon steel folded 10,000 times'.\"", ">\n\nThe chucklefucks trying to equate not catching fraud with fraud make me laugh.", ">\n\nGoddamn Dems, always appealing to sense of honor they KNOW the GOP doesn't have", ">\n\nIf somehow there is a reelection, it will be close to 50-50.\nIt seems any election is almost 50-50.\nBigg Mac vetse a shit sandwich: too close to call at 50-50. .", ">\n\nSantos. Him and Kari lake have matching skin, like 1st gen synthetic humans", ">\n\nYou know, obviously this Santos guy has no business being in the House of Representatives, but if you as an incumbent can’t figure this stuff about your challenger BEFORE THE FREAKING ELECTION I have doubts about whether you really want or are up for the job, just saying. I say let the seat stay vacant until 2024.", ">\n\nZimmerman was not the incumbent. Tom Suozzi was. He ran for governor and lost in the primary. The DCCC did oppo research but no major media picked it up because it isn’t a city district. The election was lost on Hochul swinging the district 20 points rightward and dem collapse in NY at the statewide level, because of generic, mainly economic issues like inflation. Zimmerman actually overperformed Hochul in the district by ~3 points.", ">\n\nFair enough I suppose, still feel like the DCCC at least should have been more in the game, but I guess you can’t defend everywhere… I’ll just look at it as an easy pickup in ‘24…. Hopefully.", ">\n\nZimmerman needs to sit down and shut up. His campaign didn’t do even the slightest bit of opposition research. The other guy is clearly mentally ill. What’s Zimmerman’s excuse" ]
> Zimmerman should just fade away into the night instead of trying to push for a rematch. He’s just as big an embarrassment as Santos.
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.", ">\n\nThat is a hell of a conicidence.", ">\n\nWouldn't damn near any employee in any other field, other than politics, be fired if their whole resume was found to be a lie?? Santos should be sent packing ASAP. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nSantos is trump sleaze at its finest", ">\n\nLol Today's Republicans have no shame or sense of honor... that would never happen.", ">\n\nI think Zimmerman completely dropping the ball on opposition research against Santos means he should never be trusted to head a campaign again.", ">\n\nThis has been driving me nuts too. Had the Suozzi or Zimmerman campaigns done even minimal research, they'd have started finding this stuff the week after the Republican primary was over. How fucking incompetent does a Congressional campaign have to be to just completely refuse to do even cursory opposition research?!?", ">\n\nEven worse is that apparently they knew some stuff was fishy but they didn’t know for sure so they pussyfooted a few questions about his background but were afraid to fully commit without fully knowing he was a fraud. Like, they fucking knew to look but just didn’t. “Oops nobody in the media is doing an investigation for us so I guess we should just clam up about all this fraud”.", ">\n\nNever ever going to happen. There are literal child traffickers in the GOP house.", ">\n\n\"The embattled Santos shot back at his erst-while challenger in a press conference this evening, telling an increasingly hostile public that Zimmerman 'would not last two minutes in his dojo' because 'Sensei Steve was a top-ranked sensei in the Marines'.\"\n\"Attempts by the press to ascertain whether Santos's brand new katana was in fact made of 'finest Nippon steel folded 10,000 times'.\"", ">\n\nThe chucklefucks trying to equate not catching fraud with fraud make me laugh.", ">\n\nGoddamn Dems, always appealing to sense of honor they KNOW the GOP doesn't have", ">\n\nIf somehow there is a reelection, it will be close to 50-50.\nIt seems any election is almost 50-50.\nBigg Mac vetse a shit sandwich: too close to call at 50-50. .", ">\n\nSantos. Him and Kari lake have matching skin, like 1st gen synthetic humans", ">\n\nYou know, obviously this Santos guy has no business being in the House of Representatives, but if you as an incumbent can’t figure this stuff about your challenger BEFORE THE FREAKING ELECTION I have doubts about whether you really want or are up for the job, just saying. I say let the seat stay vacant until 2024.", ">\n\nZimmerman was not the incumbent. Tom Suozzi was. He ran for governor and lost in the primary. The DCCC did oppo research but no major media picked it up because it isn’t a city district. The election was lost on Hochul swinging the district 20 points rightward and dem collapse in NY at the statewide level, because of generic, mainly economic issues like inflation. Zimmerman actually overperformed Hochul in the district by ~3 points.", ">\n\nFair enough I suppose, still feel like the DCCC at least should have been more in the game, but I guess you can’t defend everywhere… I’ll just look at it as an easy pickup in ‘24…. Hopefully.", ">\n\nZimmerman needs to sit down and shut up. His campaign didn’t do even the slightest bit of opposition research. The other guy is clearly mentally ill. What’s Zimmerman’s excuse", ">\n\n\"Dem calls for a Mulligan.\"" ]
> How is he an embarrassment? Losing by 8 in a district that voted for Zeldin by 11 points? It swung 20 points rightward from 2020 in the governor election . Blame should be laid on failures in the Hochul campaign and the state party.
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.", ">\n\nThat is a hell of a conicidence.", ">\n\nWouldn't damn near any employee in any other field, other than politics, be fired if their whole resume was found to be a lie?? Santos should be sent packing ASAP. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nSantos is trump sleaze at its finest", ">\n\nLol Today's Republicans have no shame or sense of honor... that would never happen.", ">\n\nI think Zimmerman completely dropping the ball on opposition research against Santos means he should never be trusted to head a campaign again.", ">\n\nThis has been driving me nuts too. Had the Suozzi or Zimmerman campaigns done even minimal research, they'd have started finding this stuff the week after the Republican primary was over. How fucking incompetent does a Congressional campaign have to be to just completely refuse to do even cursory opposition research?!?", ">\n\nEven worse is that apparently they knew some stuff was fishy but they didn’t know for sure so they pussyfooted a few questions about his background but were afraid to fully commit without fully knowing he was a fraud. Like, they fucking knew to look but just didn’t. “Oops nobody in the media is doing an investigation for us so I guess we should just clam up about all this fraud”.", ">\n\nNever ever going to happen. There are literal child traffickers in the GOP house.", ">\n\n\"The embattled Santos shot back at his erst-while challenger in a press conference this evening, telling an increasingly hostile public that Zimmerman 'would not last two minutes in his dojo' because 'Sensei Steve was a top-ranked sensei in the Marines'.\"\n\"Attempts by the press to ascertain whether Santos's brand new katana was in fact made of 'finest Nippon steel folded 10,000 times'.\"", ">\n\nThe chucklefucks trying to equate not catching fraud with fraud make me laugh.", ">\n\nGoddamn Dems, always appealing to sense of honor they KNOW the GOP doesn't have", ">\n\nIf somehow there is a reelection, it will be close to 50-50.\nIt seems any election is almost 50-50.\nBigg Mac vetse a shit sandwich: too close to call at 50-50. .", ">\n\nSantos. Him and Kari lake have matching skin, like 1st gen synthetic humans", ">\n\nYou know, obviously this Santos guy has no business being in the House of Representatives, but if you as an incumbent can’t figure this stuff about your challenger BEFORE THE FREAKING ELECTION I have doubts about whether you really want or are up for the job, just saying. I say let the seat stay vacant until 2024.", ">\n\nZimmerman was not the incumbent. Tom Suozzi was. He ran for governor and lost in the primary. The DCCC did oppo research but no major media picked it up because it isn’t a city district. The election was lost on Hochul swinging the district 20 points rightward and dem collapse in NY at the statewide level, because of generic, mainly economic issues like inflation. Zimmerman actually overperformed Hochul in the district by ~3 points.", ">\n\nFair enough I suppose, still feel like the DCCC at least should have been more in the game, but I guess you can’t defend everywhere… I’ll just look at it as an easy pickup in ‘24…. Hopefully.", ">\n\nZimmerman needs to sit down and shut up. His campaign didn’t do even the slightest bit of opposition research. The other guy is clearly mentally ill. What’s Zimmerman’s excuse", ">\n\n\"Dem calls for a Mulligan.\"", ">\n\nZimmerman should just fade away into the night instead of trying to push for a rematch. He’s just as big an embarrassment as Santos." ]
> This guy is the Republican Forest Gump. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤥
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.", ">\n\nThat is a hell of a conicidence.", ">\n\nWouldn't damn near any employee in any other field, other than politics, be fired if their whole resume was found to be a lie?? Santos should be sent packing ASAP. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nSantos is trump sleaze at its finest", ">\n\nLol Today's Republicans have no shame or sense of honor... that would never happen.", ">\n\nI think Zimmerman completely dropping the ball on opposition research against Santos means he should never be trusted to head a campaign again.", ">\n\nThis has been driving me nuts too. Had the Suozzi or Zimmerman campaigns done even minimal research, they'd have started finding this stuff the week after the Republican primary was over. How fucking incompetent does a Congressional campaign have to be to just completely refuse to do even cursory opposition research?!?", ">\n\nEven worse is that apparently they knew some stuff was fishy but they didn’t know for sure so they pussyfooted a few questions about his background but were afraid to fully commit without fully knowing he was a fraud. Like, they fucking knew to look but just didn’t. “Oops nobody in the media is doing an investigation for us so I guess we should just clam up about all this fraud”.", ">\n\nNever ever going to happen. There are literal child traffickers in the GOP house.", ">\n\n\"The embattled Santos shot back at his erst-while challenger in a press conference this evening, telling an increasingly hostile public that Zimmerman 'would not last two minutes in his dojo' because 'Sensei Steve was a top-ranked sensei in the Marines'.\"\n\"Attempts by the press to ascertain whether Santos's brand new katana was in fact made of 'finest Nippon steel folded 10,000 times'.\"", ">\n\nThe chucklefucks trying to equate not catching fraud with fraud make me laugh.", ">\n\nGoddamn Dems, always appealing to sense of honor they KNOW the GOP doesn't have", ">\n\nIf somehow there is a reelection, it will be close to 50-50.\nIt seems any election is almost 50-50.\nBigg Mac vetse a shit sandwich: too close to call at 50-50. .", ">\n\nSantos. Him and Kari lake have matching skin, like 1st gen synthetic humans", ">\n\nYou know, obviously this Santos guy has no business being in the House of Representatives, but if you as an incumbent can’t figure this stuff about your challenger BEFORE THE FREAKING ELECTION I have doubts about whether you really want or are up for the job, just saying. I say let the seat stay vacant until 2024.", ">\n\nZimmerman was not the incumbent. Tom Suozzi was. He ran for governor and lost in the primary. The DCCC did oppo research but no major media picked it up because it isn’t a city district. The election was lost on Hochul swinging the district 20 points rightward and dem collapse in NY at the statewide level, because of generic, mainly economic issues like inflation. Zimmerman actually overperformed Hochul in the district by ~3 points.", ">\n\nFair enough I suppose, still feel like the DCCC at least should have been more in the game, but I guess you can’t defend everywhere… I’ll just look at it as an easy pickup in ‘24…. Hopefully.", ">\n\nZimmerman needs to sit down and shut up. His campaign didn’t do even the slightest bit of opposition research. The other guy is clearly mentally ill. What’s Zimmerman’s excuse", ">\n\n\"Dem calls for a Mulligan.\"", ">\n\nZimmerman should just fade away into the night instead of trying to push for a rematch. He’s just as big an embarrassment as Santos.", ">\n\nHow is he an embarrassment? Losing by 8 in a district that voted for Zeldin by 11 points? It swung 20 points rightward from 2020 in the governor election . Blame should be laid on failures in the Hochul campaign and the state party." ]
> Smart move
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.", ">\n\nThat is a hell of a conicidence.", ">\n\nWouldn't damn near any employee in any other field, other than politics, be fired if their whole resume was found to be a lie?? Santos should be sent packing ASAP. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nSantos is trump sleaze at its finest", ">\n\nLol Today's Republicans have no shame or sense of honor... that would never happen.", ">\n\nI think Zimmerman completely dropping the ball on opposition research against Santos means he should never be trusted to head a campaign again.", ">\n\nThis has been driving me nuts too. Had the Suozzi or Zimmerman campaigns done even minimal research, they'd have started finding this stuff the week after the Republican primary was over. How fucking incompetent does a Congressional campaign have to be to just completely refuse to do even cursory opposition research?!?", ">\n\nEven worse is that apparently they knew some stuff was fishy but they didn’t know for sure so they pussyfooted a few questions about his background but were afraid to fully commit without fully knowing he was a fraud. Like, they fucking knew to look but just didn’t. “Oops nobody in the media is doing an investigation for us so I guess we should just clam up about all this fraud”.", ">\n\nNever ever going to happen. There are literal child traffickers in the GOP house.", ">\n\n\"The embattled Santos shot back at his erst-while challenger in a press conference this evening, telling an increasingly hostile public that Zimmerman 'would not last two minutes in his dojo' because 'Sensei Steve was a top-ranked sensei in the Marines'.\"\n\"Attempts by the press to ascertain whether Santos's brand new katana was in fact made of 'finest Nippon steel folded 10,000 times'.\"", ">\n\nThe chucklefucks trying to equate not catching fraud with fraud make me laugh.", ">\n\nGoddamn Dems, always appealing to sense of honor they KNOW the GOP doesn't have", ">\n\nIf somehow there is a reelection, it will be close to 50-50.\nIt seems any election is almost 50-50.\nBigg Mac vetse a shit sandwich: too close to call at 50-50. .", ">\n\nSantos. Him and Kari lake have matching skin, like 1st gen synthetic humans", ">\n\nYou know, obviously this Santos guy has no business being in the House of Representatives, but if you as an incumbent can’t figure this stuff about your challenger BEFORE THE FREAKING ELECTION I have doubts about whether you really want or are up for the job, just saying. I say let the seat stay vacant until 2024.", ">\n\nZimmerman was not the incumbent. Tom Suozzi was. He ran for governor and lost in the primary. The DCCC did oppo research but no major media picked it up because it isn’t a city district. The election was lost on Hochul swinging the district 20 points rightward and dem collapse in NY at the statewide level, because of generic, mainly economic issues like inflation. Zimmerman actually overperformed Hochul in the district by ~3 points.", ">\n\nFair enough I suppose, still feel like the DCCC at least should have been more in the game, but I guess you can’t defend everywhere… I’ll just look at it as an easy pickup in ‘24…. Hopefully.", ">\n\nZimmerman needs to sit down and shut up. His campaign didn’t do even the slightest bit of opposition research. The other guy is clearly mentally ill. What’s Zimmerman’s excuse", ">\n\n\"Dem calls for a Mulligan.\"", ">\n\nZimmerman should just fade away into the night instead of trying to push for a rematch. He’s just as big an embarrassment as Santos.", ">\n\nHow is he an embarrassment? Losing by 8 in a district that voted for Zeldin by 11 points? It swung 20 points rightward from 2020 in the governor election . Blame should be laid on failures in the Hochul campaign and the state party.", ">\n\nThis guy is the Republican Forest Gump. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤥" ]
>
[ "He won't. It's obvious he has no shame.", ">\n\n\n“I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos said. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”\n\nThis guy? Shameless?\nWhat a shocker.", ">\n\nI'm a little disappointed also in Zimmerman's campaign that none of this was discovered until after the election. And only by a journalist. \nNo oppo?", ">\n\nSome things definitely were. In this July 2022 document, page 11 talks about his evictions and civil judgements, 36-41 about his business dealings (both with the ponzi scheme and the mystery organization he nominally works for), 49-50 about charity fraud, and 50-55 about funkiness with his financial disclosures. The claimed multi-million net worth disclosure only was filed in September, so it wouldn't have been well-known at that point.\nThere are things that definitely were missed, but only some (those tied to public tweets of Santos's, Pulse victim claims) are easily verifiable and on the research team's shoulders for not getting. Employment and education history likely wouldn't be as willingly disclosed by Baruch/Goldman to someone who wasn't a journalist writing a story on the person, and stuff like his Brazilian check fraud required someone from the NYT physically flying out there to file public records requests - not something you'd go looking for on a campaign just on a hunch.\nI'd say even working just off that July document they knew enough about the guy's shadiness that a news organization would have been justified in doing NYT-caliber digging on this. But while news articles did run in a local conservative-leaning outlet on the weirdness of his financial disclosure in Sept. and in the Daily Beast in April about his Ponzi scheme affiliations neither dug beyond that.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos anagrams into orangest egos. He’s not going to do anything he doesn’t have to, most certainly not anything even remotely honorable. \nHe’ll just keep on keepin’ on like all the degenerates do.", ">\n\nThat is a hell of a conicidence.", ">\n\nWouldn't damn near any employee in any other field, other than politics, be fired if their whole resume was found to be a lie?? Santos should be sent packing ASAP. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nSantos is trump sleaze at its finest", ">\n\nLol Today's Republicans have no shame or sense of honor... that would never happen.", ">\n\nI think Zimmerman completely dropping the ball on opposition research against Santos means he should never be trusted to head a campaign again.", ">\n\nThis has been driving me nuts too. Had the Suozzi or Zimmerman campaigns done even minimal research, they'd have started finding this stuff the week after the Republican primary was over. How fucking incompetent does a Congressional campaign have to be to just completely refuse to do even cursory opposition research?!?", ">\n\nEven worse is that apparently they knew some stuff was fishy but they didn’t know for sure so they pussyfooted a few questions about his background but were afraid to fully commit without fully knowing he was a fraud. Like, they fucking knew to look but just didn’t. “Oops nobody in the media is doing an investigation for us so I guess we should just clam up about all this fraud”.", ">\n\nNever ever going to happen. There are literal child traffickers in the GOP house.", ">\n\n\"The embattled Santos shot back at his erst-while challenger in a press conference this evening, telling an increasingly hostile public that Zimmerman 'would not last two minutes in his dojo' because 'Sensei Steve was a top-ranked sensei in the Marines'.\"\n\"Attempts by the press to ascertain whether Santos's brand new katana was in fact made of 'finest Nippon steel folded 10,000 times'.\"", ">\n\nThe chucklefucks trying to equate not catching fraud with fraud make me laugh.", ">\n\nGoddamn Dems, always appealing to sense of honor they KNOW the GOP doesn't have", ">\n\nIf somehow there is a reelection, it will be close to 50-50.\nIt seems any election is almost 50-50.\nBigg Mac vetse a shit sandwich: too close to call at 50-50. .", ">\n\nSantos. Him and Kari lake have matching skin, like 1st gen synthetic humans", ">\n\nYou know, obviously this Santos guy has no business being in the House of Representatives, but if you as an incumbent can’t figure this stuff about your challenger BEFORE THE FREAKING ELECTION I have doubts about whether you really want or are up for the job, just saying. I say let the seat stay vacant until 2024.", ">\n\nZimmerman was not the incumbent. Tom Suozzi was. He ran for governor and lost in the primary. The DCCC did oppo research but no major media picked it up because it isn’t a city district. The election was lost on Hochul swinging the district 20 points rightward and dem collapse in NY at the statewide level, because of generic, mainly economic issues like inflation. Zimmerman actually overperformed Hochul in the district by ~3 points.", ">\n\nFair enough I suppose, still feel like the DCCC at least should have been more in the game, but I guess you can’t defend everywhere… I’ll just look at it as an easy pickup in ‘24…. Hopefully.", ">\n\nZimmerman needs to sit down and shut up. His campaign didn’t do even the slightest bit of opposition research. The other guy is clearly mentally ill. What’s Zimmerman’s excuse", ">\n\n\"Dem calls for a Mulligan.\"", ">\n\nZimmerman should just fade away into the night instead of trying to push for a rematch. He’s just as big an embarrassment as Santos.", ">\n\nHow is he an embarrassment? Losing by 8 in a district that voted for Zeldin by 11 points? It swung 20 points rightward from 2020 in the governor election . Blame should be laid on failures in the Hochul campaign and the state party.", ">\n\nThis guy is the Republican Forest Gump. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤥", ">\n\nSmart move" ]
At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?” I’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.
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> Evil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit." ]
> Yep, no one thinks "muahaha, I am evil!"
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people." ]
> I mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. Genuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"" ]
> The torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them." ]
> Let Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways." ]
> Probably…. More so?
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system." ]
> More so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group.
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?" ]
> Imagine being so angry at being made to wear masks indoors, you plot to kill a government official, and will now spend the rest of your productive life behind bars ( he's 47 now). All because of having to wear a mask in Wal-Mart!
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?", ">\n\nMore so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group." ]
> When you lose your freedoms because you don't understand your freedoms.
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?", ">\n\nMore so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group.", ">\n\nImagine being so angry at being made to wear masks indoors, you plot to kill a government official, and will now spend the rest of your productive life behind bars ( he's 47 now). All because of having to wear a mask in Wal-Mart!" ]
> Loosing your freedoms because you stood up for your freedums…..
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?", ">\n\nMore so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group.", ">\n\nImagine being so angry at being made to wear masks indoors, you plot to kill a government official, and will now spend the rest of your productive life behind bars ( he's 47 now). All because of having to wear a mask in Wal-Mart!", ">\n\nWhen you lose your freedoms because you don't understand your freedoms." ]
> This was a good one
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?", ">\n\nMore so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group.", ">\n\nImagine being so angry at being made to wear masks indoors, you plot to kill a government official, and will now spend the rest of your productive life behind bars ( he's 47 now). All because of having to wear a mask in Wal-Mart!", ">\n\nWhen you lose your freedoms because you don't understand your freedoms.", ">\n\nLoosing your freedoms because you stood up for your freedums….." ]
> Not really
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?", ">\n\nMore so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group.", ">\n\nImagine being so angry at being made to wear masks indoors, you plot to kill a government official, and will now spend the rest of your productive life behind bars ( he's 47 now). All because of having to wear a mask in Wal-Mart!", ">\n\nWhen you lose your freedoms because you don't understand your freedoms.", ">\n\nLoosing your freedoms because you stood up for your freedums…..", ">\n\nThis was a good one" ]
> Yesterday the guy who was sentenced looked like a potato and this one looks like the kind of guy who would throw rocks at you for walking near his gold digging spot
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?", ">\n\nMore so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group.", ">\n\nImagine being so angry at being made to wear masks indoors, you plot to kill a government official, and will now spend the rest of your productive life behind bars ( he's 47 now). All because of having to wear a mask in Wal-Mart!", ">\n\nWhen you lose your freedoms because you don't understand your freedoms.", ">\n\nLoosing your freedoms because you stood up for your freedums…..", ">\n\nThis was a good one", ">\n\nNot really" ]
> Grew up in Michigan. Me: "Shit, I think I know that guy...oh good, no, it's just his doppelganger." Both f-ing times.
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?", ">\n\nMore so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group.", ">\n\nImagine being so angry at being made to wear masks indoors, you plot to kill a government official, and will now spend the rest of your productive life behind bars ( he's 47 now). All because of having to wear a mask in Wal-Mart!", ">\n\nWhen you lose your freedoms because you don't understand your freedoms.", ">\n\nLoosing your freedoms because you stood up for your freedums…..", ">\n\nThis was a good one", ">\n\nNot really", ">\n\nYesterday the guy who was sentenced looked like a potato and this one looks like the kind of guy who would throw rocks at you for walking near his gold digging spot" ]
> Same. My first fear was that at least one of them would turn out to be a family member. Thankfully none... but many look awfully familiar.
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?", ">\n\nMore so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group.", ">\n\nImagine being so angry at being made to wear masks indoors, you plot to kill a government official, and will now spend the rest of your productive life behind bars ( he's 47 now). All because of having to wear a mask in Wal-Mart!", ">\n\nWhen you lose your freedoms because you don't understand your freedoms.", ">\n\nLoosing your freedoms because you stood up for your freedums…..", ">\n\nThis was a good one", ">\n\nNot really", ">\n\nYesterday the guy who was sentenced looked like a potato and this one looks like the kind of guy who would throw rocks at you for walking near his gold digging spot", ">\n\nGrew up in Michigan. Me: \"Shit, I think I know that guy...oh good, no, it's just his doppelganger.\" Both f-ing times." ]
> Probably about time to take down the “My governor is an idiot” yard signs, Michiganders.
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?", ">\n\nMore so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group.", ">\n\nImagine being so angry at being made to wear masks indoors, you plot to kill a government official, and will now spend the rest of your productive life behind bars ( he's 47 now). All because of having to wear a mask in Wal-Mart!", ">\n\nWhen you lose your freedoms because you don't understand your freedoms.", ">\n\nLoosing your freedoms because you stood up for your freedums…..", ">\n\nThis was a good one", ">\n\nNot really", ">\n\nYesterday the guy who was sentenced looked like a potato and this one looks like the kind of guy who would throw rocks at you for walking near his gold digging spot", ">\n\nGrew up in Michigan. Me: \"Shit, I think I know that guy...oh good, no, it's just his doppelganger.\" Both f-ing times.", ">\n\nSame. My first fear was that at least one of them would turn out to be a family member. Thankfully none... but many look awfully familiar." ]
> Finding out intensifies……
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?", ">\n\nMore so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group.", ">\n\nImagine being so angry at being made to wear masks indoors, you plot to kill a government official, and will now spend the rest of your productive life behind bars ( he's 47 now). All because of having to wear a mask in Wal-Mart!", ">\n\nWhen you lose your freedoms because you don't understand your freedoms.", ">\n\nLoosing your freedoms because you stood up for your freedums…..", ">\n\nThis was a good one", ">\n\nNot really", ">\n\nYesterday the guy who was sentenced looked like a potato and this one looks like the kind of guy who would throw rocks at you for walking near his gold digging spot", ">\n\nGrew up in Michigan. Me: \"Shit, I think I know that guy...oh good, no, it's just his doppelganger.\" Both f-ing times.", ">\n\nSame. My first fear was that at least one of them would turn out to be a family member. Thankfully none... but many look awfully familiar.", ">\n\nProbably about time to take down the “My governor is an idiot” yard signs, Michiganders." ]
> “(Defense attorney) Blanchard, who got emotional in the courtroom when speaking about Croft’s three children, told reporters outside the courthouse that the sentence means Croft will not get to see his kids grow up.” Well, when you try to kidnap and assassinate a governor because you don’t want to wear a mask or stay 6’ away from people because of a fucking pandemic, bad things end up happening to you. “Blanchard also maintained that Croft wasn’t the “ideas guy” he’s been portrayed as. He insisted that “most of what Mr. Croft said was excluded because the government didn’t want the jury to hear it.” “ Yeah, it’s not that the “government didn’t want the jury to hear it”. Court doesn’t work that way. The defense attorney didn’t get the testimony excluded. If Croft had a better attorney he might have gotten off, or a lighter sentence. This Blanchard puke is as bad as the felons he represented. Crybaby failure all the way around…
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?", ">\n\nMore so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group.", ">\n\nImagine being so angry at being made to wear masks indoors, you plot to kill a government official, and will now spend the rest of your productive life behind bars ( he's 47 now). All because of having to wear a mask in Wal-Mart!", ">\n\nWhen you lose your freedoms because you don't understand your freedoms.", ">\n\nLoosing your freedoms because you stood up for your freedums…..", ">\n\nThis was a good one", ">\n\nNot really", ">\n\nYesterday the guy who was sentenced looked like a potato and this one looks like the kind of guy who would throw rocks at you for walking near his gold digging spot", ">\n\nGrew up in Michigan. Me: \"Shit, I think I know that guy...oh good, no, it's just his doppelganger.\" Both f-ing times.", ">\n\nSame. My first fear was that at least one of them would turn out to be a family member. Thankfully none... but many look awfully familiar.", ">\n\nProbably about time to take down the “My governor is an idiot” yard signs, Michiganders.", ">\n\nFinding out intensifies……" ]
> Him not seeing his kids is probably the best thing for them. We don’t need more copies of him.
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?", ">\n\nMore so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group.", ">\n\nImagine being so angry at being made to wear masks indoors, you plot to kill a government official, and will now spend the rest of your productive life behind bars ( he's 47 now). All because of having to wear a mask in Wal-Mart!", ">\n\nWhen you lose your freedoms because you don't understand your freedoms.", ">\n\nLoosing your freedoms because you stood up for your freedums…..", ">\n\nThis was a good one", ">\n\nNot really", ">\n\nYesterday the guy who was sentenced looked like a potato and this one looks like the kind of guy who would throw rocks at you for walking near his gold digging spot", ">\n\nGrew up in Michigan. Me: \"Shit, I think I know that guy...oh good, no, it's just his doppelganger.\" Both f-ing times.", ">\n\nSame. My first fear was that at least one of them would turn out to be a family member. Thankfully none... but many look awfully familiar.", ">\n\nProbably about time to take down the “My governor is an idiot” yard signs, Michiganders.", ">\n\nFinding out intensifies……", ">\n\n“(Defense attorney) Blanchard, who got emotional in the courtroom when speaking about Croft’s three children, told reporters outside the courthouse that the sentence means Croft will not get to see his kids grow up.”\nWell, when you try to kidnap and assassinate a governor because you don’t want to wear a mask or stay 6’ away from people because of a fucking pandemic, bad things end up happening to you. \n“Blanchard also maintained that Croft wasn’t the “ideas guy” he’s been portrayed as. He insisted that “most of what Mr. Croft said was excluded because the government didn’t want the jury to hear it.” “\nYeah, it’s not that the “government didn’t want the jury to hear it”. Court doesn’t work that way. The defense attorney didn’t get the testimony excluded. If Croft had a better attorney he might have gotten off, or a lighter sentence. \nThis Blanchard puke is as bad as the felons he represented. Crybaby failure all the way around…" ]
> Looks like that "the FBI are the ones who suggested it to us and egged us on" defense didn't hold up.
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?", ">\n\nMore so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group.", ">\n\nImagine being so angry at being made to wear masks indoors, you plot to kill a government official, and will now spend the rest of your productive life behind bars ( he's 47 now). All because of having to wear a mask in Wal-Mart!", ">\n\nWhen you lose your freedoms because you don't understand your freedoms.", ">\n\nLoosing your freedoms because you stood up for your freedums…..", ">\n\nThis was a good one", ">\n\nNot really", ">\n\nYesterday the guy who was sentenced looked like a potato and this one looks like the kind of guy who would throw rocks at you for walking near his gold digging spot", ">\n\nGrew up in Michigan. Me: \"Shit, I think I know that guy...oh good, no, it's just his doppelganger.\" Both f-ing times.", ">\n\nSame. My first fear was that at least one of them would turn out to be a family member. Thankfully none... but many look awfully familiar.", ">\n\nProbably about time to take down the “My governor is an idiot” yard signs, Michiganders.", ">\n\nFinding out intensifies……", ">\n\n“(Defense attorney) Blanchard, who got emotional in the courtroom when speaking about Croft’s three children, told reporters outside the courthouse that the sentence means Croft will not get to see his kids grow up.”\nWell, when you try to kidnap and assassinate a governor because you don’t want to wear a mask or stay 6’ away from people because of a fucking pandemic, bad things end up happening to you. \n“Blanchard also maintained that Croft wasn’t the “ideas guy” he’s been portrayed as. He insisted that “most of what Mr. Croft said was excluded because the government didn’t want the jury to hear it.” “\nYeah, it’s not that the “government didn’t want the jury to hear it”. Court doesn’t work that way. The defense attorney didn’t get the testimony excluded. If Croft had a better attorney he might have gotten off, or a lighter sentence. \nThis Blanchard puke is as bad as the felons he represented. Crybaby failure all the way around…", ">\n\nHim not seeing his kids is probably the best thing for them. We don’t need more copies of him." ]
> Because it was a lie.
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?", ">\n\nMore so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group.", ">\n\nImagine being so angry at being made to wear masks indoors, you plot to kill a government official, and will now spend the rest of your productive life behind bars ( he's 47 now). All because of having to wear a mask in Wal-Mart!", ">\n\nWhen you lose your freedoms because you don't understand your freedoms.", ">\n\nLoosing your freedoms because you stood up for your freedums…..", ">\n\nThis was a good one", ">\n\nNot really", ">\n\nYesterday the guy who was sentenced looked like a potato and this one looks like the kind of guy who would throw rocks at you for walking near his gold digging spot", ">\n\nGrew up in Michigan. Me: \"Shit, I think I know that guy...oh good, no, it's just his doppelganger.\" Both f-ing times.", ">\n\nSame. My first fear was that at least one of them would turn out to be a family member. Thankfully none... but many look awfully familiar.", ">\n\nProbably about time to take down the “My governor is an idiot” yard signs, Michiganders.", ">\n\nFinding out intensifies……", ">\n\n“(Defense attorney) Blanchard, who got emotional in the courtroom when speaking about Croft’s three children, told reporters outside the courthouse that the sentence means Croft will not get to see his kids grow up.”\nWell, when you try to kidnap and assassinate a governor because you don’t want to wear a mask or stay 6’ away from people because of a fucking pandemic, bad things end up happening to you. \n“Blanchard also maintained that Croft wasn’t the “ideas guy” he’s been portrayed as. He insisted that “most of what Mr. Croft said was excluded because the government didn’t want the jury to hear it.” “\nYeah, it’s not that the “government didn’t want the jury to hear it”. Court doesn’t work that way. The defense attorney didn’t get the testimony excluded. If Croft had a better attorney he might have gotten off, or a lighter sentence. \nThis Blanchard puke is as bad as the felons he represented. Crybaby failure all the way around…", ">\n\nHim not seeing his kids is probably the best thing for them. We don’t need more copies of him.", ">\n\nLooks like that \"the FBI are the ones who suggested it to us and egged us on\" defense didn't hold up." ]
> Not on the "gateway pundit," where they throw all kinds of insane, exaggerated reasons for ultra-maga crimes that site is one of my favorite hate reads
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?", ">\n\nMore so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group.", ">\n\nImagine being so angry at being made to wear masks indoors, you plot to kill a government official, and will now spend the rest of your productive life behind bars ( he's 47 now). All because of having to wear a mask in Wal-Mart!", ">\n\nWhen you lose your freedoms because you don't understand your freedoms.", ">\n\nLoosing your freedoms because you stood up for your freedums…..", ">\n\nThis was a good one", ">\n\nNot really", ">\n\nYesterday the guy who was sentenced looked like a potato and this one looks like the kind of guy who would throw rocks at you for walking near his gold digging spot", ">\n\nGrew up in Michigan. Me: \"Shit, I think I know that guy...oh good, no, it's just his doppelganger.\" Both f-ing times.", ">\n\nSame. My first fear was that at least one of them would turn out to be a family member. Thankfully none... but many look awfully familiar.", ">\n\nProbably about time to take down the “My governor is an idiot” yard signs, Michiganders.", ">\n\nFinding out intensifies……", ">\n\n“(Defense attorney) Blanchard, who got emotional in the courtroom when speaking about Croft’s three children, told reporters outside the courthouse that the sentence means Croft will not get to see his kids grow up.”\nWell, when you try to kidnap and assassinate a governor because you don’t want to wear a mask or stay 6’ away from people because of a fucking pandemic, bad things end up happening to you. \n“Blanchard also maintained that Croft wasn’t the “ideas guy” he’s been portrayed as. He insisted that “most of what Mr. Croft said was excluded because the government didn’t want the jury to hear it.” “\nYeah, it’s not that the “government didn’t want the jury to hear it”. Court doesn’t work that way. The defense attorney didn’t get the testimony excluded. If Croft had a better attorney he might have gotten off, or a lighter sentence. \nThis Blanchard puke is as bad as the felons he represented. Crybaby failure all the way around…", ">\n\nHim not seeing his kids is probably the best thing for them. We don’t need more copies of him.", ">\n\nLooks like that \"the FBI are the ones who suggested it to us and egged us on\" defense didn't hold up.", ">\n\nBecause it was a lie." ]
> “This man is fully radicalized. He hasn’t changed his viewpoint,” Kessler added. “He’s not admitting the ideas are wrong because he still holds them. This whole thing was Mr. Croft’s idea.” - A different jury in Grand Rapids couldn’t reach a verdict on the pair at the first trial last spring but acquitted two other men. Man, it sounds more and more like the first trial just had (at least) one Michigan Militia type who would have never convicted on any grounds at all.
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?", ">\n\nMore so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group.", ">\n\nImagine being so angry at being made to wear masks indoors, you plot to kill a government official, and will now spend the rest of your productive life behind bars ( he's 47 now). All because of having to wear a mask in Wal-Mart!", ">\n\nWhen you lose your freedoms because you don't understand your freedoms.", ">\n\nLoosing your freedoms because you stood up for your freedums…..", ">\n\nThis was a good one", ">\n\nNot really", ">\n\nYesterday the guy who was sentenced looked like a potato and this one looks like the kind of guy who would throw rocks at you for walking near his gold digging spot", ">\n\nGrew up in Michigan. Me: \"Shit, I think I know that guy...oh good, no, it's just his doppelganger.\" Both f-ing times.", ">\n\nSame. My first fear was that at least one of them would turn out to be a family member. Thankfully none... but many look awfully familiar.", ">\n\nProbably about time to take down the “My governor is an idiot” yard signs, Michiganders.", ">\n\nFinding out intensifies……", ">\n\n“(Defense attorney) Blanchard, who got emotional in the courtroom when speaking about Croft’s three children, told reporters outside the courthouse that the sentence means Croft will not get to see his kids grow up.”\nWell, when you try to kidnap and assassinate a governor because you don’t want to wear a mask or stay 6’ away from people because of a fucking pandemic, bad things end up happening to you. \n“Blanchard also maintained that Croft wasn’t the “ideas guy” he’s been portrayed as. He insisted that “most of what Mr. Croft said was excluded because the government didn’t want the jury to hear it.” “\nYeah, it’s not that the “government didn’t want the jury to hear it”. Court doesn’t work that way. The defense attorney didn’t get the testimony excluded. If Croft had a better attorney he might have gotten off, or a lighter sentence. \nThis Blanchard puke is as bad as the felons he represented. Crybaby failure all the way around…", ">\n\nHim not seeing his kids is probably the best thing for them. We don’t need more copies of him.", ">\n\nLooks like that \"the FBI are the ones who suggested it to us and egged us on\" defense didn't hold up.", ">\n\nBecause it was a lie.", ">\n\nNot on the \"gateway pundit,\" where they throw all kinds of insane, exaggerated reasons for ultra-maga crimes\nthat site is one of my favorite hate reads" ]
> I just find it hilarious that this group who claimed they were so aware of big government terror compared to us sheep. ..was infiltrated by a FBI informant rather easily lol. I'd say I'd wanna see the movie one day but it's probably just the FBI informant making a Facebook posting down with liberals and he was welcomed with open arms. Edit - I just realized that it seems I'm making light of the FBI informants job. I am not. I could not do that job and be looking over my shoulder basically not living my own life for months to years.
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?", ">\n\nMore so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group.", ">\n\nImagine being so angry at being made to wear masks indoors, you plot to kill a government official, and will now spend the rest of your productive life behind bars ( he's 47 now). All because of having to wear a mask in Wal-Mart!", ">\n\nWhen you lose your freedoms because you don't understand your freedoms.", ">\n\nLoosing your freedoms because you stood up for your freedums…..", ">\n\nThis was a good one", ">\n\nNot really", ">\n\nYesterday the guy who was sentenced looked like a potato and this one looks like the kind of guy who would throw rocks at you for walking near his gold digging spot", ">\n\nGrew up in Michigan. Me: \"Shit, I think I know that guy...oh good, no, it's just his doppelganger.\" Both f-ing times.", ">\n\nSame. My first fear was that at least one of them would turn out to be a family member. Thankfully none... but many look awfully familiar.", ">\n\nProbably about time to take down the “My governor is an idiot” yard signs, Michiganders.", ">\n\nFinding out intensifies……", ">\n\n“(Defense attorney) Blanchard, who got emotional in the courtroom when speaking about Croft’s three children, told reporters outside the courthouse that the sentence means Croft will not get to see his kids grow up.”\nWell, when you try to kidnap and assassinate a governor because you don’t want to wear a mask or stay 6’ away from people because of a fucking pandemic, bad things end up happening to you. \n“Blanchard also maintained that Croft wasn’t the “ideas guy” he’s been portrayed as. He insisted that “most of what Mr. Croft said was excluded because the government didn’t want the jury to hear it.” “\nYeah, it’s not that the “government didn’t want the jury to hear it”. Court doesn’t work that way. The defense attorney didn’t get the testimony excluded. If Croft had a better attorney he might have gotten off, or a lighter sentence. \nThis Blanchard puke is as bad as the felons he represented. Crybaby failure all the way around…", ">\n\nHim not seeing his kids is probably the best thing for them. We don’t need more copies of him.", ">\n\nLooks like that \"the FBI are the ones who suggested it to us and egged us on\" defense didn't hold up.", ">\n\nBecause it was a lie.", ">\n\nNot on the \"gateway pundit,\" where they throw all kinds of insane, exaggerated reasons for ultra-maga crimes\nthat site is one of my favorite hate reads", ">\n\n\n“This man is fully radicalized. He hasn’t changed his viewpoint,” Kessler added. “He’s not admitting the ideas are wrong because he still holds them. This whole thing was Mr. Croft’s idea.”\n\n-\n\nA different jury in Grand Rapids couldn’t reach a verdict on the pair at the first trial last spring but acquitted two other men.\n\nMan, it sounds more and more like the first trial just had (at least) one Michigan Militia type who would have never convicted on any grounds at all." ]
> It wasn't even an FBI agent, it was just some former military dude who joined their military gun drill club and heard their very detailed plot to execute cops and told his cop buddy about it. The cop buddy was like, fuck, that sounds real lemme ask the FBI what to do. The FBI told the guy, hey, can you, like, stay friends with them and just kinda let us know if they do anything really crazy like ask where to buy a bomb to blow up a bridge? And then they were like, shit, we need a bomb to blow up a bridge as a diversion. You were in the military, do you know anyone? And the dude was like, uh, yeah, let me ask my old buddy Fred Ben Iver.
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?", ">\n\nMore so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group.", ">\n\nImagine being so angry at being made to wear masks indoors, you plot to kill a government official, and will now spend the rest of your productive life behind bars ( he's 47 now). All because of having to wear a mask in Wal-Mart!", ">\n\nWhen you lose your freedoms because you don't understand your freedoms.", ">\n\nLoosing your freedoms because you stood up for your freedums…..", ">\n\nThis was a good one", ">\n\nNot really", ">\n\nYesterday the guy who was sentenced looked like a potato and this one looks like the kind of guy who would throw rocks at you for walking near his gold digging spot", ">\n\nGrew up in Michigan. Me: \"Shit, I think I know that guy...oh good, no, it's just his doppelganger.\" Both f-ing times.", ">\n\nSame. My first fear was that at least one of them would turn out to be a family member. Thankfully none... but many look awfully familiar.", ">\n\nProbably about time to take down the “My governor is an idiot” yard signs, Michiganders.", ">\n\nFinding out intensifies……", ">\n\n“(Defense attorney) Blanchard, who got emotional in the courtroom when speaking about Croft’s three children, told reporters outside the courthouse that the sentence means Croft will not get to see his kids grow up.”\nWell, when you try to kidnap and assassinate a governor because you don’t want to wear a mask or stay 6’ away from people because of a fucking pandemic, bad things end up happening to you. \n“Blanchard also maintained that Croft wasn’t the “ideas guy” he’s been portrayed as. He insisted that “most of what Mr. Croft said was excluded because the government didn’t want the jury to hear it.” “\nYeah, it’s not that the “government didn’t want the jury to hear it”. Court doesn’t work that way. The defense attorney didn’t get the testimony excluded. If Croft had a better attorney he might have gotten off, or a lighter sentence. \nThis Blanchard puke is as bad as the felons he represented. Crybaby failure all the way around…", ">\n\nHim not seeing his kids is probably the best thing for them. We don’t need more copies of him.", ">\n\nLooks like that \"the FBI are the ones who suggested it to us and egged us on\" defense didn't hold up.", ">\n\nBecause it was a lie.", ">\n\nNot on the \"gateway pundit,\" where they throw all kinds of insane, exaggerated reasons for ultra-maga crimes\nthat site is one of my favorite hate reads", ">\n\n\n“This man is fully radicalized. He hasn’t changed his viewpoint,” Kessler added. “He’s not admitting the ideas are wrong because he still holds them. This whole thing was Mr. Croft’s idea.”\n\n-\n\nA different jury in Grand Rapids couldn’t reach a verdict on the pair at the first trial last spring but acquitted two other men.\n\nMan, it sounds more and more like the first trial just had (at least) one Michigan Militia type who would have never convicted on any grounds at all.", ">\n\nI just find it hilarious that this group who claimed they were so aware of big government terror compared to us sheep. ..was infiltrated by a FBI informant rather easily lol.\nI'd say I'd wanna see the movie one day but it's probably just the FBI informant making a Facebook posting down with liberals and he was welcomed with open arms.\nEdit - I just realized that it seems I'm making light of the FBI informants job. I am not. I could not do that job and be looking over my shoulder basically not living my own life for months to years." ]
> They need to do some of that kind of work to grab whoever is behind all of the power stations being hit.
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?", ">\n\nMore so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group.", ">\n\nImagine being so angry at being made to wear masks indoors, you plot to kill a government official, and will now spend the rest of your productive life behind bars ( he's 47 now). All because of having to wear a mask in Wal-Mart!", ">\n\nWhen you lose your freedoms because you don't understand your freedoms.", ">\n\nLoosing your freedoms because you stood up for your freedums…..", ">\n\nThis was a good one", ">\n\nNot really", ">\n\nYesterday the guy who was sentenced looked like a potato and this one looks like the kind of guy who would throw rocks at you for walking near his gold digging spot", ">\n\nGrew up in Michigan. Me: \"Shit, I think I know that guy...oh good, no, it's just his doppelganger.\" Both f-ing times.", ">\n\nSame. My first fear was that at least one of them would turn out to be a family member. Thankfully none... but many look awfully familiar.", ">\n\nProbably about time to take down the “My governor is an idiot” yard signs, Michiganders.", ">\n\nFinding out intensifies……", ">\n\n“(Defense attorney) Blanchard, who got emotional in the courtroom when speaking about Croft’s three children, told reporters outside the courthouse that the sentence means Croft will not get to see his kids grow up.”\nWell, when you try to kidnap and assassinate a governor because you don’t want to wear a mask or stay 6’ away from people because of a fucking pandemic, bad things end up happening to you. \n“Blanchard also maintained that Croft wasn’t the “ideas guy” he’s been portrayed as. He insisted that “most of what Mr. Croft said was excluded because the government didn’t want the jury to hear it.” “\nYeah, it’s not that the “government didn’t want the jury to hear it”. Court doesn’t work that way. The defense attorney didn’t get the testimony excluded. If Croft had a better attorney he might have gotten off, or a lighter sentence. \nThis Blanchard puke is as bad as the felons he represented. Crybaby failure all the way around…", ">\n\nHim not seeing his kids is probably the best thing for them. We don’t need more copies of him.", ">\n\nLooks like that \"the FBI are the ones who suggested it to us and egged us on\" defense didn't hold up.", ">\n\nBecause it was a lie.", ">\n\nNot on the \"gateway pundit,\" where they throw all kinds of insane, exaggerated reasons for ultra-maga crimes\nthat site is one of my favorite hate reads", ">\n\n\n“This man is fully radicalized. He hasn’t changed his viewpoint,” Kessler added. “He’s not admitting the ideas are wrong because he still holds them. This whole thing was Mr. Croft’s idea.”\n\n-\n\nA different jury in Grand Rapids couldn’t reach a verdict on the pair at the first trial last spring but acquitted two other men.\n\nMan, it sounds more and more like the first trial just had (at least) one Michigan Militia type who would have never convicted on any grounds at all.", ">\n\nI just find it hilarious that this group who claimed they were so aware of big government terror compared to us sheep. ..was infiltrated by a FBI informant rather easily lol.\nI'd say I'd wanna see the movie one day but it's probably just the FBI informant making a Facebook posting down with liberals and he was welcomed with open arms.\nEdit - I just realized that it seems I'm making light of the FBI informants job. I am not. I could not do that job and be looking over my shoulder basically not living my own life for months to years.", ">\n\nIt wasn't even an FBI agent, it was just some former military dude who joined their military gun drill club and heard their very detailed plot to execute cops and told his cop buddy about it. The cop buddy was like, fuck, that sounds real lemme ask the FBI what to do. The FBI told the guy, hey, can you, like, stay friends with them and just kinda let us know if they do anything really crazy like ask where to buy a bomb to blow up a bridge?\nAnd then they were like, shit, we need a bomb to blow up a bridge as a diversion. You were in the military, do you know anyone? And the dude was like, uh, yeah, let me ask my old buddy Fred Ben Iver." ]
> It is very likely it is completely separate groups. The white supremacist movement (which all this antigovernmental stuff right now is part of and/or grew out of), does everything they can to stay autonomous so that if one cell goes down there is no connection. They can spread their ideology and tactics by just putting them out there on certain forums and are never directly involved, yet have the freedom of speech cover.
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?", ">\n\nMore so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group.", ">\n\nImagine being so angry at being made to wear masks indoors, you plot to kill a government official, and will now spend the rest of your productive life behind bars ( he's 47 now). All because of having to wear a mask in Wal-Mart!", ">\n\nWhen you lose your freedoms because you don't understand your freedoms.", ">\n\nLoosing your freedoms because you stood up for your freedums…..", ">\n\nThis was a good one", ">\n\nNot really", ">\n\nYesterday the guy who was sentenced looked like a potato and this one looks like the kind of guy who would throw rocks at you for walking near his gold digging spot", ">\n\nGrew up in Michigan. Me: \"Shit, I think I know that guy...oh good, no, it's just his doppelganger.\" Both f-ing times.", ">\n\nSame. My first fear was that at least one of them would turn out to be a family member. Thankfully none... but many look awfully familiar.", ">\n\nProbably about time to take down the “My governor is an idiot” yard signs, Michiganders.", ">\n\nFinding out intensifies……", ">\n\n“(Defense attorney) Blanchard, who got emotional in the courtroom when speaking about Croft’s three children, told reporters outside the courthouse that the sentence means Croft will not get to see his kids grow up.”\nWell, when you try to kidnap and assassinate a governor because you don’t want to wear a mask or stay 6’ away from people because of a fucking pandemic, bad things end up happening to you. \n“Blanchard also maintained that Croft wasn’t the “ideas guy” he’s been portrayed as. He insisted that “most of what Mr. Croft said was excluded because the government didn’t want the jury to hear it.” “\nYeah, it’s not that the “government didn’t want the jury to hear it”. Court doesn’t work that way. The defense attorney didn’t get the testimony excluded. If Croft had a better attorney he might have gotten off, or a lighter sentence. \nThis Blanchard puke is as bad as the felons he represented. Crybaby failure all the way around…", ">\n\nHim not seeing his kids is probably the best thing for them. We don’t need more copies of him.", ">\n\nLooks like that \"the FBI are the ones who suggested it to us and egged us on\" defense didn't hold up.", ">\n\nBecause it was a lie.", ">\n\nNot on the \"gateway pundit,\" where they throw all kinds of insane, exaggerated reasons for ultra-maga crimes\nthat site is one of my favorite hate reads", ">\n\n\n“This man is fully radicalized. He hasn’t changed his viewpoint,” Kessler added. “He’s not admitting the ideas are wrong because he still holds them. This whole thing was Mr. Croft’s idea.”\n\n-\n\nA different jury in Grand Rapids couldn’t reach a verdict on the pair at the first trial last spring but acquitted two other men.\n\nMan, it sounds more and more like the first trial just had (at least) one Michigan Militia type who would have never convicted on any grounds at all.", ">\n\nI just find it hilarious that this group who claimed they were so aware of big government terror compared to us sheep. ..was infiltrated by a FBI informant rather easily lol.\nI'd say I'd wanna see the movie one day but it's probably just the FBI informant making a Facebook posting down with liberals and he was welcomed with open arms.\nEdit - I just realized that it seems I'm making light of the FBI informants job. I am not. I could not do that job and be looking over my shoulder basically not living my own life for months to years.", ">\n\nIt wasn't even an FBI agent, it was just some former military dude who joined their military gun drill club and heard their very detailed plot to execute cops and told his cop buddy about it. The cop buddy was like, fuck, that sounds real lemme ask the FBI what to do. The FBI told the guy, hey, can you, like, stay friends with them and just kinda let us know if they do anything really crazy like ask where to buy a bomb to blow up a bridge?\nAnd then they were like, shit, we need a bomb to blow up a bridge as a diversion. You were in the military, do you know anyone? And the dude was like, uh, yeah, let me ask my old buddy Fred Ben Iver.", ">\n\nThey need to do some of that kind of work to grab whoever is behind all of the power stations being hit." ]
> Its probably going to be a rite of passage, like being jumped into a gang. Except it is also like having a Canadian girlfriend. If you want domestic terrorist clout at the local watering hole you brag, "You know that electrical substation that got taken out? Not saying I was directly involved, but not necessarily denying either." To Law Enforcement you say, "That's a lie. Ah gots rats!!" Schrodinger's Terrorist.
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?", ">\n\nMore so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group.", ">\n\nImagine being so angry at being made to wear masks indoors, you plot to kill a government official, and will now spend the rest of your productive life behind bars ( he's 47 now). All because of having to wear a mask in Wal-Mart!", ">\n\nWhen you lose your freedoms because you don't understand your freedoms.", ">\n\nLoosing your freedoms because you stood up for your freedums…..", ">\n\nThis was a good one", ">\n\nNot really", ">\n\nYesterday the guy who was sentenced looked like a potato and this one looks like the kind of guy who would throw rocks at you for walking near his gold digging spot", ">\n\nGrew up in Michigan. Me: \"Shit, I think I know that guy...oh good, no, it's just his doppelganger.\" Both f-ing times.", ">\n\nSame. My first fear was that at least one of them would turn out to be a family member. Thankfully none... but many look awfully familiar.", ">\n\nProbably about time to take down the “My governor is an idiot” yard signs, Michiganders.", ">\n\nFinding out intensifies……", ">\n\n“(Defense attorney) Blanchard, who got emotional in the courtroom when speaking about Croft’s three children, told reporters outside the courthouse that the sentence means Croft will not get to see his kids grow up.”\nWell, when you try to kidnap and assassinate a governor because you don’t want to wear a mask or stay 6’ away from people because of a fucking pandemic, bad things end up happening to you. \n“Blanchard also maintained that Croft wasn’t the “ideas guy” he’s been portrayed as. He insisted that “most of what Mr. Croft said was excluded because the government didn’t want the jury to hear it.” “\nYeah, it’s not that the “government didn’t want the jury to hear it”. Court doesn’t work that way. The defense attorney didn’t get the testimony excluded. If Croft had a better attorney he might have gotten off, or a lighter sentence. \nThis Blanchard puke is as bad as the felons he represented. Crybaby failure all the way around…", ">\n\nHim not seeing his kids is probably the best thing for them. We don’t need more copies of him.", ">\n\nLooks like that \"the FBI are the ones who suggested it to us and egged us on\" defense didn't hold up.", ">\n\nBecause it was a lie.", ">\n\nNot on the \"gateway pundit,\" where they throw all kinds of insane, exaggerated reasons for ultra-maga crimes\nthat site is one of my favorite hate reads", ">\n\n\n“This man is fully radicalized. He hasn’t changed his viewpoint,” Kessler added. “He’s not admitting the ideas are wrong because he still holds them. This whole thing was Mr. Croft’s idea.”\n\n-\n\nA different jury in Grand Rapids couldn’t reach a verdict on the pair at the first trial last spring but acquitted two other men.\n\nMan, it sounds more and more like the first trial just had (at least) one Michigan Militia type who would have never convicted on any grounds at all.", ">\n\nI just find it hilarious that this group who claimed they were so aware of big government terror compared to us sheep. ..was infiltrated by a FBI informant rather easily lol.\nI'd say I'd wanna see the movie one day but it's probably just the FBI informant making a Facebook posting down with liberals and he was welcomed with open arms.\nEdit - I just realized that it seems I'm making light of the FBI informants job. I am not. I could not do that job and be looking over my shoulder basically not living my own life for months to years.", ">\n\nIt wasn't even an FBI agent, it was just some former military dude who joined their military gun drill club and heard their very detailed plot to execute cops and told his cop buddy about it. The cop buddy was like, fuck, that sounds real lemme ask the FBI what to do. The FBI told the guy, hey, can you, like, stay friends with them and just kinda let us know if they do anything really crazy like ask where to buy a bomb to blow up a bridge?\nAnd then they were like, shit, we need a bomb to blow up a bridge as a diversion. You were in the military, do you know anyone? And the dude was like, uh, yeah, let me ask my old buddy Fred Ben Iver.", ">\n\nThey need to do some of that kind of work to grab whoever is behind all of the power stations being hit.", ">\n\nIt is very likely it is completely separate groups. The white supremacist movement (which all this antigovernmental stuff right now is part of and/or grew out of), does everything they can to stay autonomous so that if one cell goes down there is no connection. They can spread their ideology and tactics by just putting them out there on certain forums and are never directly involved, yet have the freedom of speech cover." ]
> He looks like the kinda guy who’d try to buy bank robbery supplies from a pawn shop.
[ "At one point, Croft told allies: “I don’t like seeing anybody get killed either. But you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, you know what I mean?”\n\nI’ve never heard someone compassionate, full of empathy doing good for the world pull out that saying. It’s always someone trying to minimize some bullshit.", ">\n\nEvil is banal and mundane. As Hannah Arendt observes in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem, evil people like that use stock phrases and self-invented clichés, including ... you don’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs ..., to justify their behaviour and lack of critical thinking. People delude themselves into believing they're genuinely good, righteous people.", ">\n\nYep, no one thinks \"muahaha, I am evil!\"", ">\n\nI mean, there’s some people that do. There was a certain subset of Nazis working in the prison camps who knew exactly what was going on, and genuinely enjoyed being there. Same with the Christian missionaries who enacted genocide on the natives - there were priests and nuns in those Catholic schools who willfully abused (and even murdered) kids. \nGenuine psychopaths exist. They’re the minority, but they’re out there. The “banality of evil” problem is that the Nazis and the Catholic church set up entire systems that protected and enabled them.", ">\n\nThe torturers during the inquisition LOVED their work. They got points for doing Gods work and the further blessing of women to rape in ingenuous ways.", ">\n\nLet Croft and Fox rot for the next decade and a half. We’ll see how militant they are when they’re in their late 60s and have aged in the US prison system.", ">\n\nProbably…. More so?", ">\n\nMore so, but no one will go near them. A plot like that, they won't be able to walk past a laptop without the FBI knowing where they are after they're out. No one in their right mind would bring them back into their group.", ">\n\nImagine being so angry at being made to wear masks indoors, you plot to kill a government official, and will now spend the rest of your productive life behind bars ( he's 47 now). All because of having to wear a mask in Wal-Mart!", ">\n\nWhen you lose your freedoms because you don't understand your freedoms.", ">\n\nLoosing your freedoms because you stood up for your freedums…..", ">\n\nThis was a good one", ">\n\nNot really", ">\n\nYesterday the guy who was sentenced looked like a potato and this one looks like the kind of guy who would throw rocks at you for walking near his gold digging spot", ">\n\nGrew up in Michigan. Me: \"Shit, I think I know that guy...oh good, no, it's just his doppelganger.\" Both f-ing times.", ">\n\nSame. My first fear was that at least one of them would turn out to be a family member. Thankfully none... but many look awfully familiar.", ">\n\nProbably about time to take down the “My governor is an idiot” yard signs, Michiganders.", ">\n\nFinding out intensifies……", ">\n\n“(Defense attorney) Blanchard, who got emotional in the courtroom when speaking about Croft’s three children, told reporters outside the courthouse that the sentence means Croft will not get to see his kids grow up.”\nWell, when you try to kidnap and assassinate a governor because you don’t want to wear a mask or stay 6’ away from people because of a fucking pandemic, bad things end up happening to you. \n“Blanchard also maintained that Croft wasn’t the “ideas guy” he’s been portrayed as. He insisted that “most of what Mr. Croft said was excluded because the government didn’t want the jury to hear it.” “\nYeah, it’s not that the “government didn’t want the jury to hear it”. Court doesn’t work that way. The defense attorney didn’t get the testimony excluded. If Croft had a better attorney he might have gotten off, or a lighter sentence. \nThis Blanchard puke is as bad as the felons he represented. Crybaby failure all the way around…", ">\n\nHim not seeing his kids is probably the best thing for them. We don’t need more copies of him.", ">\n\nLooks like that \"the FBI are the ones who suggested it to us and egged us on\" defense didn't hold up.", ">\n\nBecause it was a lie.", ">\n\nNot on the \"gateway pundit,\" where they throw all kinds of insane, exaggerated reasons for ultra-maga crimes\nthat site is one of my favorite hate reads", ">\n\n\n“This man is fully radicalized. He hasn’t changed his viewpoint,” Kessler added. “He’s not admitting the ideas are wrong because he still holds them. This whole thing was Mr. Croft’s idea.”\n\n-\n\nA different jury in Grand Rapids couldn’t reach a verdict on the pair at the first trial last spring but acquitted two other men.\n\nMan, it sounds more and more like the first trial just had (at least) one Michigan Militia type who would have never convicted on any grounds at all.", ">\n\nI just find it hilarious that this group who claimed they were so aware of big government terror compared to us sheep. ..was infiltrated by a FBI informant rather easily lol.\nI'd say I'd wanna see the movie one day but it's probably just the FBI informant making a Facebook posting down with liberals and he was welcomed with open arms.\nEdit - I just realized that it seems I'm making light of the FBI informants job. I am not. I could not do that job and be looking over my shoulder basically not living my own life for months to years.", ">\n\nIt wasn't even an FBI agent, it was just some former military dude who joined their military gun drill club and heard their very detailed plot to execute cops and told his cop buddy about it. The cop buddy was like, fuck, that sounds real lemme ask the FBI what to do. The FBI told the guy, hey, can you, like, stay friends with them and just kinda let us know if they do anything really crazy like ask where to buy a bomb to blow up a bridge?\nAnd then they were like, shit, we need a bomb to blow up a bridge as a diversion. You were in the military, do you know anyone? And the dude was like, uh, yeah, let me ask my old buddy Fred Ben Iver.", ">\n\nThey need to do some of that kind of work to grab whoever is behind all of the power stations being hit.", ">\n\nIt is very likely it is completely separate groups. The white supremacist movement (which all this antigovernmental stuff right now is part of and/or grew out of), does everything they can to stay autonomous so that if one cell goes down there is no connection. They can spread their ideology and tactics by just putting them out there on certain forums and are never directly involved, yet have the freedom of speech cover.", ">\n\nIts probably going to be a rite of passage, like being jumped into a gang. Except it is also like having a Canadian girlfriend.\nIf you want domestic terrorist clout at the local watering hole you brag, \"You know that electrical substation that got taken out? Not saying I was directly involved, but not necessarily denying either.\"\nTo Law Enforcement you say, \"That's a lie. Ah gots rats!!\"\nSchrodinger's Terrorist." ]