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I figured this out when I was a tween. Another one is we find time goes faster as we age (for most), that’s because a year when you’ve lived ten years, a year is 10% of your life experience (in years). And when you’ve lived 20 years, a year seems faster because a year is now only 5% of your life experience, and so on, and so on. Math can be fun sometimes
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nWell, we're talking wages, so not everyday is a work day. Therefore if you figure most work 250 days a year that is about 400.00 a day.",
">\n\nI added that in the extra bit. Not the actual shower thought but wanted to account for the way we work.",
">\n\nYeah , oops , just noticed that.\nIt feels far far away",
">\n\nEven $400 Isn’t that much an the big picture… that being said, through labor I’ve only done that a day, dozen or so times in my life.\nIt’s super wild that there are people that charge far more then that an hour.",
">\n\nIf you work 50 weeks a year, 5 days/week, and 8 hours a day, you need to earn $50/hour an $400/day to make $100 000/year. Also under this line of thinking, every 25 cents earned per hour nets you $500/year and every dollar earns you $2000/year. I always found this a quick way to figure out yearly pay from hourly, and vice versa",
">\n\nI love it. You did the math. \nI find it amazing how it all adds up but we tend to thing in years not hours or days."
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I’m feeling like we are kindred spirits because that’s how I’ve explained the years passing faster every year for a while now!
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nWell, we're talking wages, so not everyday is a work day. Therefore if you figure most work 250 days a year that is about 400.00 a day.",
">\n\nI added that in the extra bit. Not the actual shower thought but wanted to account for the way we work.",
">\n\nYeah , oops , just noticed that.\nIt feels far far away",
">\n\nEven $400 Isn’t that much an the big picture… that being said, through labor I’ve only done that a day, dozen or so times in my life.\nIt’s super wild that there are people that charge far more then that an hour.",
">\n\nIf you work 50 weeks a year, 5 days/week, and 8 hours a day, you need to earn $50/hour an $400/day to make $100 000/year. Also under this line of thinking, every 25 cents earned per hour nets you $500/year and every dollar earns you $2000/year. I always found this a quick way to figure out yearly pay from hourly, and vice versa",
">\n\nI love it. You did the math. \nI find it amazing how it all adds up but we tend to thing in years not hours or days.",
">\n\nI figured this out when I was a tween. Another one is we find time goes faster as we age (for most), that’s because a year when you’ve lived ten years, a year is 10% of your life experience (in years). And when you’ve lived 20 years, a year seems faster because a year is now only 5% of your life experience, and so on, and so on. Math can be fun sometimes"
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One of those old Greeks figured it out first, but I can never remember the name. That said, it’s still your/my theorem in a way, cause we figured it out independently
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nWell, we're talking wages, so not everyday is a work day. Therefore if you figure most work 250 days a year that is about 400.00 a day.",
">\n\nI added that in the extra bit. Not the actual shower thought but wanted to account for the way we work.",
">\n\nYeah , oops , just noticed that.\nIt feels far far away",
">\n\nEven $400 Isn’t that much an the big picture… that being said, through labor I’ve only done that a day, dozen or so times in my life.\nIt’s super wild that there are people that charge far more then that an hour.",
">\n\nIf you work 50 weeks a year, 5 days/week, and 8 hours a day, you need to earn $50/hour an $400/day to make $100 000/year. Also under this line of thinking, every 25 cents earned per hour nets you $500/year and every dollar earns you $2000/year. I always found this a quick way to figure out yearly pay from hourly, and vice versa",
">\n\nI love it. You did the math. \nI find it amazing how it all adds up but we tend to thing in years not hours or days.",
">\n\nI figured this out when I was a tween. Another one is we find time goes faster as we age (for most), that’s because a year when you’ve lived ten years, a year is 10% of your life experience (in years). And when you’ve lived 20 years, a year seems faster because a year is now only 5% of your life experience, and so on, and so on. Math can be fun sometimes",
">\n\nI’m feeling like we are kindred spirits because that’s how I’ve explained the years passing faster every year for a while now!"
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It’s bittersweet figuring things out independently, figuring it out a bit to late to make money lol.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nWell, we're talking wages, so not everyday is a work day. Therefore if you figure most work 250 days a year that is about 400.00 a day.",
">\n\nI added that in the extra bit. Not the actual shower thought but wanted to account for the way we work.",
">\n\nYeah , oops , just noticed that.\nIt feels far far away",
">\n\nEven $400 Isn’t that much an the big picture… that being said, through labor I’ve only done that a day, dozen or so times in my life.\nIt’s super wild that there are people that charge far more then that an hour.",
">\n\nIf you work 50 weeks a year, 5 days/week, and 8 hours a day, you need to earn $50/hour an $400/day to make $100 000/year. Also under this line of thinking, every 25 cents earned per hour nets you $500/year and every dollar earns you $2000/year. I always found this a quick way to figure out yearly pay from hourly, and vice versa",
">\n\nI love it. You did the math. \nI find it amazing how it all adds up but we tend to thing in years not hours or days.",
">\n\nI figured this out when I was a tween. Another one is we find time goes faster as we age (for most), that’s because a year when you’ve lived ten years, a year is 10% of your life experience (in years). And when you’ve lived 20 years, a year seems faster because a year is now only 5% of your life experience, and so on, and so on. Math can be fun sometimes",
">\n\nI’m feeling like we are kindred spirits because that’s how I’ve explained the years passing faster every year for a while now!",
">\n\nOne of those old Greeks figured it out first, but I can never remember the name. That said, it’s still your/my theorem in a way, cause we figured it out independently"
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Alexander Graham Bell and Antonio Meucci basically invented the telephone basically simultaneously, and there are other examples. Sometimes it’s all about filing the paperwork first
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nWell, we're talking wages, so not everyday is a work day. Therefore if you figure most work 250 days a year that is about 400.00 a day.",
">\n\nI added that in the extra bit. Not the actual shower thought but wanted to account for the way we work.",
">\n\nYeah , oops , just noticed that.\nIt feels far far away",
">\n\nEven $400 Isn’t that much an the big picture… that being said, through labor I’ve only done that a day, dozen or so times in my life.\nIt’s super wild that there are people that charge far more then that an hour.",
">\n\nIf you work 50 weeks a year, 5 days/week, and 8 hours a day, you need to earn $50/hour an $400/day to make $100 000/year. Also under this line of thinking, every 25 cents earned per hour nets you $500/year and every dollar earns you $2000/year. I always found this a quick way to figure out yearly pay from hourly, and vice versa",
">\n\nI love it. You did the math. \nI find it amazing how it all adds up but we tend to thing in years not hours or days.",
">\n\nI figured this out when I was a tween. Another one is we find time goes faster as we age (for most), that’s because a year when you’ve lived ten years, a year is 10% of your life experience (in years). And when you’ve lived 20 years, a year seems faster because a year is now only 5% of your life experience, and so on, and so on. Math can be fun sometimes",
">\n\nI’m feeling like we are kindred spirits because that’s how I’ve explained the years passing faster every year for a while now!",
">\n\nOne of those old Greeks figured it out first, but I can never remember the name. That said, it’s still your/my theorem in a way, cause we figured it out independently",
">\n\nIt’s bittersweet figuring things out independently, figuring it out a bit to late to make money lol."
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nWell, we're talking wages, so not everyday is a work day. Therefore if you figure most work 250 days a year that is about 400.00 a day.",
">\n\nI added that in the extra bit. Not the actual shower thought but wanted to account for the way we work.",
">\n\nYeah , oops , just noticed that.\nIt feels far far away",
">\n\nEven $400 Isn’t that much an the big picture… that being said, through labor I’ve only done that a day, dozen or so times in my life.\nIt’s super wild that there are people that charge far more then that an hour.",
">\n\nIf you work 50 weeks a year, 5 days/week, and 8 hours a day, you need to earn $50/hour an $400/day to make $100 000/year. Also under this line of thinking, every 25 cents earned per hour nets you $500/year and every dollar earns you $2000/year. I always found this a quick way to figure out yearly pay from hourly, and vice versa",
">\n\nI love it. You did the math. \nI find it amazing how it all adds up but we tend to thing in years not hours or days.",
">\n\nI figured this out when I was a tween. Another one is we find time goes faster as we age (for most), that’s because a year when you’ve lived ten years, a year is 10% of your life experience (in years). And when you’ve lived 20 years, a year seems faster because a year is now only 5% of your life experience, and so on, and so on. Math can be fun sometimes",
">\n\nI’m feeling like we are kindred spirits because that’s how I’ve explained the years passing faster every year for a while now!",
">\n\nOne of those old Greeks figured it out first, but I can never remember the name. That said, it’s still your/my theorem in a way, cause we figured it out independently",
">\n\nIt’s bittersweet figuring things out independently, figuring it out a bit to late to make money lol.",
">\n\nAlexander Graham Bell and Antonio Meucci basically invented the telephone basically simultaneously, and there are other examples. Sometimes it’s all about filing the paperwork first"
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I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid
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Yup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.
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Let's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).
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"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die."
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I automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.
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"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel)."
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I don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases
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"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game."
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There's a pretty big leap from "finding kids a nuisance" to "wanting them to cease to exist" there, champ.
I'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.
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"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases"
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It’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children.
Our society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation
Pets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag
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"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child."
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As someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post "I hate children so much they should die" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.
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"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag"
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Your goal posts are pretty spread apart
Not everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.
Admittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.
I'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face
I'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol
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"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate."
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I am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.
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"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol"
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I don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?
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"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way."
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If you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah
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"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?"
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no i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah"
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The good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though."
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People can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win."
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I'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag."
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>
I feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist"
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Hating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful..."
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I don't think that person exists, tbh
|
[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon."
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>
So because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh"
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Nobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass.
May be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned."
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Pets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong.
It's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,"
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I would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag."
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Found one
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩"
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Keep looking. There's lots of us.
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one"
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I personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.
I have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us."
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I used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol"
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I love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents."
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I do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible.
That said, I love pets. So much. Having "fur babies" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”"
] |
>
No. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years.
Also, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back."
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More than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.
Man is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird."
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That's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.
Still don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.
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"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable."
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You suck, we can all tell
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults."
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I have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.
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"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell"
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You're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.
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"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this."
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I love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…
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"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either."
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I think you could expand that from children to humans in general. Your dog can't fight with you about politics or religion. Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump. That doesn't mean dogs are better than people, just that you can't handle those who don't agree with you about everything, and have their own opinions they may fight with you about. The "I hate people and only like dogs" crowd are basically telling you they only like mindless creatures without opinions of their own, who depend on making you love them to survive.
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"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.",
">\n\nI love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…"
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Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump.
He doesn't want to admit that or he's out
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.",
">\n\nI love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…",
">\n\nI think you could expand that from children to humans in general. Your dog can't fight with you about politics or religion. Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump. That doesn't mean dogs are better than people, just that you can't handle those who don't agree with you about everything, and have their own opinions they may fight with you about. The \"I hate people and only like dogs\" crowd are basically telling you they only like mindless creatures without opinions of their own, who depend on making you love them to survive."
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Especially the pieces of shit that call child abuse “discipline”
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.",
">\n\nI love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…",
">\n\nI think you could expand that from children to humans in general. Your dog can't fight with you about politics or religion. Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump. That doesn't mean dogs are better than people, just that you can't handle those who don't agree with you about everything, and have their own opinions they may fight with you about. The \"I hate people and only like dogs\" crowd are basically telling you they only like mindless creatures without opinions of their own, who depend on making you love them to survive.",
">\n\n\nYour dog can't tell you he voted for Trump.\n\nHe doesn't want to admit that or he's out"
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Hitting your child after giving several warnings is not child abuse.
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.",
">\n\nI love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…",
">\n\nI think you could expand that from children to humans in general. Your dog can't fight with you about politics or religion. Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump. That doesn't mean dogs are better than people, just that you can't handle those who don't agree with you about everything, and have their own opinions they may fight with you about. The \"I hate people and only like dogs\" crowd are basically telling you they only like mindless creatures without opinions of their own, who depend on making you love them to survive.",
">\n\n\nYour dog can't tell you he voted for Trump.\n\nHe doesn't want to admit that or he's out",
">\n\nEspecially the pieces of shit that call child abuse “discipline”"
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Never ever get children. Hittind your child is abuse.
Do you also hit your partner when they don't do as you wish after several warnings and they that's not abuse either ?
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.",
">\n\nI love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…",
">\n\nI think you could expand that from children to humans in general. Your dog can't fight with you about politics or religion. Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump. That doesn't mean dogs are better than people, just that you can't handle those who don't agree with you about everything, and have their own opinions they may fight with you about. The \"I hate people and only like dogs\" crowd are basically telling you they only like mindless creatures without opinions of their own, who depend on making you love them to survive.",
">\n\n\nYour dog can't tell you he voted for Trump.\n\nHe doesn't want to admit that or he's out",
">\n\nEspecially the pieces of shit that call child abuse “discipline”",
">\n\nHitting your child after giving several warnings is not child abuse."
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Bad experience with children on my flight back home. Kicking and screaming....
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.",
">\n\nI love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…",
">\n\nI think you could expand that from children to humans in general. Your dog can't fight with you about politics or religion. Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump. That doesn't mean dogs are better than people, just that you can't handle those who don't agree with you about everything, and have their own opinions they may fight with you about. The \"I hate people and only like dogs\" crowd are basically telling you they only like mindless creatures without opinions of their own, who depend on making you love them to survive.",
">\n\n\nYour dog can't tell you he voted for Trump.\n\nHe doesn't want to admit that or he's out",
">\n\nEspecially the pieces of shit that call child abuse “discipline”",
">\n\nHitting your child after giving several warnings is not child abuse.",
">\n\nNever ever get children. Hittind your child is abuse. \nDo you also hit your partner when they don't do as you wish after several warnings and they that's not abuse either ?"
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I love how specific people get with their opinions, Nicely done. - Not sarcastic btw
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"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.",
">\n\nI love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…",
">\n\nI think you could expand that from children to humans in general. Your dog can't fight with you about politics or religion. Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump. That doesn't mean dogs are better than people, just that you can't handle those who don't agree with you about everything, and have their own opinions they may fight with you about. The \"I hate people and only like dogs\" crowd are basically telling you they only like mindless creatures without opinions of their own, who depend on making you love them to survive.",
">\n\n\nYour dog can't tell you he voted for Trump.\n\nHe doesn't want to admit that or he's out",
">\n\nEspecially the pieces of shit that call child abuse “discipline”",
">\n\nHitting your child after giving several warnings is not child abuse.",
">\n\nNever ever get children. Hittind your child is abuse. \nDo you also hit your partner when they don't do as you wish after several warnings and they that's not abuse either ?",
">\n\nBad experience with children on my flight back home. Kicking and screaming...."
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In my defence I hat myself too.
Ok real talk though can we all stop having so many kids? Thanks.
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"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.",
">\n\nI love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…",
">\n\nI think you could expand that from children to humans in general. Your dog can't fight with you about politics or religion. Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump. That doesn't mean dogs are better than people, just that you can't handle those who don't agree with you about everything, and have their own opinions they may fight with you about. The \"I hate people and only like dogs\" crowd are basically telling you they only like mindless creatures without opinions of their own, who depend on making you love them to survive.",
">\n\n\nYour dog can't tell you he voted for Trump.\n\nHe doesn't want to admit that or he's out",
">\n\nEspecially the pieces of shit that call child abuse “discipline”",
">\n\nHitting your child after giving several warnings is not child abuse.",
">\n\nNever ever get children. Hittind your child is abuse. \nDo you also hit your partner when they don't do as you wish after several warnings and they that's not abuse either ?",
">\n\nBad experience with children on my flight back home. Kicking and screaming....",
">\n\nI love how specific people get with their opinions, Nicely done. - Not sarcastic btw"
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Strongly preferring a different species over your own is a clear sign of something wrong mentally. If I prefer a cockroach or pit bull over other humans, is it normal?
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"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.",
">\n\nI love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…",
">\n\nI think you could expand that from children to humans in general. Your dog can't fight with you about politics or religion. Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump. That doesn't mean dogs are better than people, just that you can't handle those who don't agree with you about everything, and have their own opinions they may fight with you about. The \"I hate people and only like dogs\" crowd are basically telling you they only like mindless creatures without opinions of their own, who depend on making you love them to survive.",
">\n\n\nYour dog can't tell you he voted for Trump.\n\nHe doesn't want to admit that or he's out",
">\n\nEspecially the pieces of shit that call child abuse “discipline”",
">\n\nHitting your child after giving several warnings is not child abuse.",
">\n\nNever ever get children. Hittind your child is abuse. \nDo you also hit your partner when they don't do as you wish after several warnings and they that's not abuse either ?",
">\n\nBad experience with children on my flight back home. Kicking and screaming....",
">\n\nI love how specific people get with their opinions, Nicely done. - Not sarcastic btw",
">\n\nIn my defence I hat myself too.\nOk real talk though can we all stop having so many kids? Thanks."
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.",
">\n\nI love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…",
">\n\nI think you could expand that from children to humans in general. Your dog can't fight with you about politics or religion. Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump. That doesn't mean dogs are better than people, just that you can't handle those who don't agree with you about everything, and have their own opinions they may fight with you about. The \"I hate people and only like dogs\" crowd are basically telling you they only like mindless creatures without opinions of their own, who depend on making you love them to survive.",
">\n\n\nYour dog can't tell you he voted for Trump.\n\nHe doesn't want to admit that or he's out",
">\n\nEspecially the pieces of shit that call child abuse “discipline”",
">\n\nHitting your child after giving several warnings is not child abuse.",
">\n\nNever ever get children. Hittind your child is abuse. \nDo you also hit your partner when they don't do as you wish after several warnings and they that's not abuse either ?",
">\n\nBad experience with children on my flight back home. Kicking and screaming....",
">\n\nI love how specific people get with their opinions, Nicely done. - Not sarcastic btw",
">\n\nIn my defence I hat myself too.\nOk real talk though can we all stop having so many kids? Thanks.",
">\n\nStrongly preferring a different species over your own is a clear sign of something wrong mentally. If I prefer a cockroach or pit bull over other humans, is it normal?"
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“Some” = / = an entire species
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.",
">\n\nI love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…",
">\n\nI think you could expand that from children to humans in general. Your dog can't fight with you about politics or religion. Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump. That doesn't mean dogs are better than people, just that you can't handle those who don't agree with you about everything, and have their own opinions they may fight with you about. The \"I hate people and only like dogs\" crowd are basically telling you they only like mindless creatures without opinions of their own, who depend on making you love them to survive.",
">\n\n\nYour dog can't tell you he voted for Trump.\n\nHe doesn't want to admit that or he's out",
">\n\nEspecially the pieces of shit that call child abuse “discipline”",
">\n\nHitting your child after giving several warnings is not child abuse.",
">\n\nNever ever get children. Hittind your child is abuse. \nDo you also hit your partner when they don't do as you wish after several warnings and they that's not abuse either ?",
">\n\nBad experience with children on my flight back home. Kicking and screaming....",
">\n\nI love how specific people get with their opinions, Nicely done. - Not sarcastic btw",
">\n\nIn my defence I hat myself too.\nOk real talk though can we all stop having so many kids? Thanks.",
">\n\nStrongly preferring a different species over your own is a clear sign of something wrong mentally. If I prefer a cockroach or pit bull over other humans, is it normal?",
">\n\nKeep in mind some humans are far worse than a cockroach or pit bull..."
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The way humanity is going down hill these days, Id rather hang with the animals.
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.",
">\n\nI love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…",
">\n\nI think you could expand that from children to humans in general. Your dog can't fight with you about politics or religion. Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump. That doesn't mean dogs are better than people, just that you can't handle those who don't agree with you about everything, and have their own opinions they may fight with you about. The \"I hate people and only like dogs\" crowd are basically telling you they only like mindless creatures without opinions of their own, who depend on making you love them to survive.",
">\n\n\nYour dog can't tell you he voted for Trump.\n\nHe doesn't want to admit that or he's out",
">\n\nEspecially the pieces of shit that call child abuse “discipline”",
">\n\nHitting your child after giving several warnings is not child abuse.",
">\n\nNever ever get children. Hittind your child is abuse. \nDo you also hit your partner when they don't do as you wish after several warnings and they that's not abuse either ?",
">\n\nBad experience with children on my flight back home. Kicking and screaming....",
">\n\nI love how specific people get with their opinions, Nicely done. - Not sarcastic btw",
">\n\nIn my defence I hat myself too.\nOk real talk though can we all stop having so many kids? Thanks.",
">\n\nStrongly preferring a different species over your own is a clear sign of something wrong mentally. If I prefer a cockroach or pit bull over other humans, is it normal?",
">\n\nKeep in mind some humans are far worse than a cockroach or pit bull...",
">\n\n“Some” = / = an entire species"
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I don't hate kids but I certainly don't want kids they are way to expensive. I would rather have my money and work less. They are also a massive risk. They could be disabled. They could hate me. Cats are so cute :D.
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.",
">\n\nI love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…",
">\n\nI think you could expand that from children to humans in general. Your dog can't fight with you about politics or religion. Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump. That doesn't mean dogs are better than people, just that you can't handle those who don't agree with you about everything, and have their own opinions they may fight with you about. The \"I hate people and only like dogs\" crowd are basically telling you they only like mindless creatures without opinions of their own, who depend on making you love them to survive.",
">\n\n\nYour dog can't tell you he voted for Trump.\n\nHe doesn't want to admit that or he's out",
">\n\nEspecially the pieces of shit that call child abuse “discipline”",
">\n\nHitting your child after giving several warnings is not child abuse.",
">\n\nNever ever get children. Hittind your child is abuse. \nDo you also hit your partner when they don't do as you wish after several warnings and they that's not abuse either ?",
">\n\nBad experience with children on my flight back home. Kicking and screaming....",
">\n\nI love how specific people get with their opinions, Nicely done. - Not sarcastic btw",
">\n\nIn my defence I hat myself too.\nOk real talk though can we all stop having so many kids? Thanks.",
">\n\nStrongly preferring a different species over your own is a clear sign of something wrong mentally. If I prefer a cockroach or pit bull over other humans, is it normal?",
">\n\nKeep in mind some humans are far worse than a cockroach or pit bull...",
">\n\n“Some” = / = an entire species",
">\n\nThe way humanity is going down hill these days, Id rather hang with the animals."
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Some people like that may be suffering from unresolved trauma to do with children - childhood abuse or bullying, for example, or infertility or child bereavement, where they associate children with extreme pain, and pets may offer a refuge. Of course this doesn’t mean disrespecting children is ever ok, but trying to see the deeper causes of such behavior may help towards understanding and healing.
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.",
">\n\nI love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…",
">\n\nI think you could expand that from children to humans in general. Your dog can't fight with you about politics or religion. Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump. That doesn't mean dogs are better than people, just that you can't handle those who don't agree with you about everything, and have their own opinions they may fight with you about. The \"I hate people and only like dogs\" crowd are basically telling you they only like mindless creatures without opinions of their own, who depend on making you love them to survive.",
">\n\n\nYour dog can't tell you he voted for Trump.\n\nHe doesn't want to admit that or he's out",
">\n\nEspecially the pieces of shit that call child abuse “discipline”",
">\n\nHitting your child after giving several warnings is not child abuse.",
">\n\nNever ever get children. Hittind your child is abuse. \nDo you also hit your partner when they don't do as you wish after several warnings and they that's not abuse either ?",
">\n\nBad experience with children on my flight back home. Kicking and screaming....",
">\n\nI love how specific people get with their opinions, Nicely done. - Not sarcastic btw",
">\n\nIn my defence I hat myself too.\nOk real talk though can we all stop having so many kids? Thanks.",
">\n\nStrongly preferring a different species over your own is a clear sign of something wrong mentally. If I prefer a cockroach or pit bull over other humans, is it normal?",
">\n\nKeep in mind some humans are far worse than a cockroach or pit bull...",
">\n\n“Some” = / = an entire species",
">\n\nThe way humanity is going down hill these days, Id rather hang with the animals.",
">\n\nI don't hate kids but I certainly don't want kids they are way to expensive. I would rather have my money and work less. They are also a massive risk. They could be disabled. They could hate me. Cats are so cute :D."
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Yeah they are sad people
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.",
">\n\nI love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…",
">\n\nI think you could expand that from children to humans in general. Your dog can't fight with you about politics or religion. Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump. That doesn't mean dogs are better than people, just that you can't handle those who don't agree with you about everything, and have their own opinions they may fight with you about. The \"I hate people and only like dogs\" crowd are basically telling you they only like mindless creatures without opinions of their own, who depend on making you love them to survive.",
">\n\n\nYour dog can't tell you he voted for Trump.\n\nHe doesn't want to admit that or he's out",
">\n\nEspecially the pieces of shit that call child abuse “discipline”",
">\n\nHitting your child after giving several warnings is not child abuse.",
">\n\nNever ever get children. Hittind your child is abuse. \nDo you also hit your partner when they don't do as you wish after several warnings and they that's not abuse either ?",
">\n\nBad experience with children on my flight back home. Kicking and screaming....",
">\n\nI love how specific people get with their opinions, Nicely done. - Not sarcastic btw",
">\n\nIn my defence I hat myself too.\nOk real talk though can we all stop having so many kids? Thanks.",
">\n\nStrongly preferring a different species over your own is a clear sign of something wrong mentally. If I prefer a cockroach or pit bull over other humans, is it normal?",
">\n\nKeep in mind some humans are far worse than a cockroach or pit bull...",
">\n\n“Some” = / = an entire species",
">\n\nThe way humanity is going down hill these days, Id rather hang with the animals.",
">\n\nI don't hate kids but I certainly don't want kids they are way to expensive. I would rather have my money and work less. They are also a massive risk. They could be disabled. They could hate me. Cats are so cute :D.",
">\n\nSome people like that may be suffering from unresolved trauma to do with children - childhood abuse or bullying, for example, or infertility or child bereavement, where they associate children with extreme pain, and pets may offer a refuge. Of course this doesn’t mean disrespecting children is ever ok, but trying to see the deeper causes of such behavior may help towards understanding and healing."
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I don't mind kids I guess. I just have no idea how to talk to them. It's just awkward to be around them. I also know I'm not in a position to have a kid even if I want one. So I have cats.
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.",
">\n\nI love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…",
">\n\nI think you could expand that from children to humans in general. Your dog can't fight with you about politics or religion. Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump. That doesn't mean dogs are better than people, just that you can't handle those who don't agree with you about everything, and have their own opinions they may fight with you about. The \"I hate people and only like dogs\" crowd are basically telling you they only like mindless creatures without opinions of their own, who depend on making you love them to survive.",
">\n\n\nYour dog can't tell you he voted for Trump.\n\nHe doesn't want to admit that or he's out",
">\n\nEspecially the pieces of shit that call child abuse “discipline”",
">\n\nHitting your child after giving several warnings is not child abuse.",
">\n\nNever ever get children. Hittind your child is abuse. \nDo you also hit your partner when they don't do as you wish after several warnings and they that's not abuse either ?",
">\n\nBad experience with children on my flight back home. Kicking and screaming....",
">\n\nI love how specific people get with their opinions, Nicely done. - Not sarcastic btw",
">\n\nIn my defence I hat myself too.\nOk real talk though can we all stop having so many kids? Thanks.",
">\n\nStrongly preferring a different species over your own is a clear sign of something wrong mentally. If I prefer a cockroach or pit bull over other humans, is it normal?",
">\n\nKeep in mind some humans are far worse than a cockroach or pit bull...",
">\n\n“Some” = / = an entire species",
">\n\nThe way humanity is going down hill these days, Id rather hang with the animals.",
">\n\nI don't hate kids but I certainly don't want kids they are way to expensive. I would rather have my money and work less. They are also a massive risk. They could be disabled. They could hate me. Cats are so cute :D.",
">\n\nSome people like that may be suffering from unresolved trauma to do with children - childhood abuse or bullying, for example, or infertility or child bereavement, where they associate children with extreme pain, and pets may offer a refuge. Of course this doesn’t mean disrespecting children is ever ok, but trying to see the deeper causes of such behavior may help towards understanding and healing.",
">\n\nYeah they are sad people"
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99.99% of people who dislike children, are manchildren/womanchildren themselves, and at the very least emotionally stunted.
They are basically like that Alan dude from Hangover movies.
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.",
">\n\nI love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…",
">\n\nI think you could expand that from children to humans in general. Your dog can't fight with you about politics or religion. Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump. That doesn't mean dogs are better than people, just that you can't handle those who don't agree with you about everything, and have their own opinions they may fight with you about. The \"I hate people and only like dogs\" crowd are basically telling you they only like mindless creatures without opinions of their own, who depend on making you love them to survive.",
">\n\n\nYour dog can't tell you he voted for Trump.\n\nHe doesn't want to admit that or he's out",
">\n\nEspecially the pieces of shit that call child abuse “discipline”",
">\n\nHitting your child after giving several warnings is not child abuse.",
">\n\nNever ever get children. Hittind your child is abuse. \nDo you also hit your partner when they don't do as you wish after several warnings and they that's not abuse either ?",
">\n\nBad experience with children on my flight back home. Kicking and screaming....",
">\n\nI love how specific people get with their opinions, Nicely done. - Not sarcastic btw",
">\n\nIn my defence I hat myself too.\nOk real talk though can we all stop having so many kids? Thanks.",
">\n\nStrongly preferring a different species over your own is a clear sign of something wrong mentally. If I prefer a cockroach or pit bull over other humans, is it normal?",
">\n\nKeep in mind some humans are far worse than a cockroach or pit bull...",
">\n\n“Some” = / = an entire species",
">\n\nThe way humanity is going down hill these days, Id rather hang with the animals.",
">\n\nI don't hate kids but I certainly don't want kids they are way to expensive. I would rather have my money and work less. They are also a massive risk. They could be disabled. They could hate me. Cats are so cute :D.",
">\n\nSome people like that may be suffering from unresolved trauma to do with children - childhood abuse or bullying, for example, or infertility or child bereavement, where they associate children with extreme pain, and pets may offer a refuge. Of course this doesn’t mean disrespecting children is ever ok, but trying to see the deeper causes of such behavior may help towards understanding and healing.",
">\n\nYeah they are sad people",
">\n\nI don't mind kids I guess. I just have no idea how to talk to them. It's just awkward to be around them. I also know I'm not in a position to have a kid even if I want one. So I have cats."
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I agree with you . . Western ideology is suicidal to Civilization.. a woman who doesnt want kids cannot be taken serious by a Man who knows his worth .. Kids being Annoying is the prize to pay to build a family. . People who think otherwise ,i just wish their parents didnt want kids as well or thier grandparents didn't want kids or great grand parents ..lmao ..
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.",
">\n\nI love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…",
">\n\nI think you could expand that from children to humans in general. Your dog can't fight with you about politics or religion. Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump. That doesn't mean dogs are better than people, just that you can't handle those who don't agree with you about everything, and have their own opinions they may fight with you about. The \"I hate people and only like dogs\" crowd are basically telling you they only like mindless creatures without opinions of their own, who depend on making you love them to survive.",
">\n\n\nYour dog can't tell you he voted for Trump.\n\nHe doesn't want to admit that or he's out",
">\n\nEspecially the pieces of shit that call child abuse “discipline”",
">\n\nHitting your child after giving several warnings is not child abuse.",
">\n\nNever ever get children. Hittind your child is abuse. \nDo you also hit your partner when they don't do as you wish after several warnings and they that's not abuse either ?",
">\n\nBad experience with children on my flight back home. Kicking and screaming....",
">\n\nI love how specific people get with their opinions, Nicely done. - Not sarcastic btw",
">\n\nIn my defence I hat myself too.\nOk real talk though can we all stop having so many kids? Thanks.",
">\n\nStrongly preferring a different species over your own is a clear sign of something wrong mentally. If I prefer a cockroach or pit bull over other humans, is it normal?",
">\n\nKeep in mind some humans are far worse than a cockroach or pit bull...",
">\n\n“Some” = / = an entire species",
">\n\nThe way humanity is going down hill these days, Id rather hang with the animals.",
">\n\nI don't hate kids but I certainly don't want kids they are way to expensive. I would rather have my money and work less. They are also a massive risk. They could be disabled. They could hate me. Cats are so cute :D.",
">\n\nSome people like that may be suffering from unresolved trauma to do with children - childhood abuse or bullying, for example, or infertility or child bereavement, where they associate children with extreme pain, and pets may offer a refuge. Of course this doesn’t mean disrespecting children is ever ok, but trying to see the deeper causes of such behavior may help towards understanding and healing.",
">\n\nYeah they are sad people",
">\n\nI don't mind kids I guess. I just have no idea how to talk to them. It's just awkward to be around them. I also know I'm not in a position to have a kid even if I want one. So I have cats.",
">\n\n99.99% of people who dislike children, are manchildren/womanchildren themselves, and at the very least emotionally stunted. \nThey are basically like that Alan dude from Hangover movies."
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you need a therapist
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[
"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.",
">\n\nI love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…",
">\n\nI think you could expand that from children to humans in general. Your dog can't fight with you about politics or religion. Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump. That doesn't mean dogs are better than people, just that you can't handle those who don't agree with you about everything, and have their own opinions they may fight with you about. The \"I hate people and only like dogs\" crowd are basically telling you they only like mindless creatures without opinions of their own, who depend on making you love them to survive.",
">\n\n\nYour dog can't tell you he voted for Trump.\n\nHe doesn't want to admit that or he's out",
">\n\nEspecially the pieces of shit that call child abuse “discipline”",
">\n\nHitting your child after giving several warnings is not child abuse.",
">\n\nNever ever get children. Hittind your child is abuse. \nDo you also hit your partner when they don't do as you wish after several warnings and they that's not abuse either ?",
">\n\nBad experience with children on my flight back home. Kicking and screaming....",
">\n\nI love how specific people get with their opinions, Nicely done. - Not sarcastic btw",
">\n\nIn my defence I hat myself too.\nOk real talk though can we all stop having so many kids? Thanks.",
">\n\nStrongly preferring a different species over your own is a clear sign of something wrong mentally. If I prefer a cockroach or pit bull over other humans, is it normal?",
">\n\nKeep in mind some humans are far worse than a cockroach or pit bull...",
">\n\n“Some” = / = an entire species",
">\n\nThe way humanity is going down hill these days, Id rather hang with the animals.",
">\n\nI don't hate kids but I certainly don't want kids they are way to expensive. I would rather have my money and work less. They are also a massive risk. They could be disabled. They could hate me. Cats are so cute :D.",
">\n\nSome people like that may be suffering from unresolved trauma to do with children - childhood abuse or bullying, for example, or infertility or child bereavement, where they associate children with extreme pain, and pets may offer a refuge. Of course this doesn’t mean disrespecting children is ever ok, but trying to see the deeper causes of such behavior may help towards understanding and healing.",
">\n\nYeah they are sad people",
">\n\nI don't mind kids I guess. I just have no idea how to talk to them. It's just awkward to be around them. I also know I'm not in a position to have a kid even if I want one. So I have cats.",
">\n\n99.99% of people who dislike children, are manchildren/womanchildren themselves, and at the very least emotionally stunted. \nThey are basically like that Alan dude from Hangover movies.",
">\n\nI agree with you . . Western ideology is suicidal to Civilization.. a woman who doesnt want kids cannot be taken serious by a Man who knows his worth .. Kids being Annoying is the prize to pay to build a family. . People who think otherwise ,i just wish their parents didnt want kids as well or thier grandparents didn't want kids or great grand parents ..lmao .."
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You too are incredibly annoying
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"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.",
">\n\nI love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…",
">\n\nI think you could expand that from children to humans in general. Your dog can't fight with you about politics or religion. Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump. That doesn't mean dogs are better than people, just that you can't handle those who don't agree with you about everything, and have their own opinions they may fight with you about. The \"I hate people and only like dogs\" crowd are basically telling you they only like mindless creatures without opinions of their own, who depend on making you love them to survive.",
">\n\n\nYour dog can't tell you he voted for Trump.\n\nHe doesn't want to admit that or he's out",
">\n\nEspecially the pieces of shit that call child abuse “discipline”",
">\n\nHitting your child after giving several warnings is not child abuse.",
">\n\nNever ever get children. Hittind your child is abuse. \nDo you also hit your partner when they don't do as you wish after several warnings and they that's not abuse either ?",
">\n\nBad experience with children on my flight back home. Kicking and screaming....",
">\n\nI love how specific people get with their opinions, Nicely done. - Not sarcastic btw",
">\n\nIn my defence I hat myself too.\nOk real talk though can we all stop having so many kids? Thanks.",
">\n\nStrongly preferring a different species over your own is a clear sign of something wrong mentally. If I prefer a cockroach or pit bull over other humans, is it normal?",
">\n\nKeep in mind some humans are far worse than a cockroach or pit bull...",
">\n\n“Some” = / = an entire species",
">\n\nThe way humanity is going down hill these days, Id rather hang with the animals.",
">\n\nI don't hate kids but I certainly don't want kids they are way to expensive. I would rather have my money and work less. They are also a massive risk. They could be disabled. They could hate me. Cats are so cute :D.",
">\n\nSome people like that may be suffering from unresolved trauma to do with children - childhood abuse or bullying, for example, or infertility or child bereavement, where they associate children with extreme pain, and pets may offer a refuge. Of course this doesn’t mean disrespecting children is ever ok, but trying to see the deeper causes of such behavior may help towards understanding and healing.",
">\n\nYeah they are sad people",
">\n\nI don't mind kids I guess. I just have no idea how to talk to them. It's just awkward to be around them. I also know I'm not in a position to have a kid even if I want one. So I have cats.",
">\n\n99.99% of people who dislike children, are manchildren/womanchildren themselves, and at the very least emotionally stunted. \nThey are basically like that Alan dude from Hangover movies.",
">\n\nI agree with you . . Western ideology is suicidal to Civilization.. a woman who doesnt want kids cannot be taken serious by a Man who knows his worth .. Kids being Annoying is the prize to pay to build a family. . People who think otherwise ,i just wish their parents didnt want kids as well or thier grandparents didn't want kids or great grand parents ..lmao ..",
">\n\nyou need a therapist"
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I completely agree. And then they share clip of kids being chaotic followed by condom commercial.
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"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.",
">\n\nI love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…",
">\n\nI think you could expand that from children to humans in general. Your dog can't fight with you about politics or religion. Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump. That doesn't mean dogs are better than people, just that you can't handle those who don't agree with you about everything, and have their own opinions they may fight with you about. The \"I hate people and only like dogs\" crowd are basically telling you they only like mindless creatures without opinions of their own, who depend on making you love them to survive.",
">\n\n\nYour dog can't tell you he voted for Trump.\n\nHe doesn't want to admit that or he's out",
">\n\nEspecially the pieces of shit that call child abuse “discipline”",
">\n\nHitting your child after giving several warnings is not child abuse.",
">\n\nNever ever get children. Hittind your child is abuse. \nDo you also hit your partner when they don't do as you wish after several warnings and they that's not abuse either ?",
">\n\nBad experience with children on my flight back home. Kicking and screaming....",
">\n\nI love how specific people get with their opinions, Nicely done. - Not sarcastic btw",
">\n\nIn my defence I hat myself too.\nOk real talk though can we all stop having so many kids? Thanks.",
">\n\nStrongly preferring a different species over your own is a clear sign of something wrong mentally. If I prefer a cockroach or pit bull over other humans, is it normal?",
">\n\nKeep in mind some humans are far worse than a cockroach or pit bull...",
">\n\n“Some” = / = an entire species",
">\n\nThe way humanity is going down hill these days, Id rather hang with the animals.",
">\n\nI don't hate kids but I certainly don't want kids they are way to expensive. I would rather have my money and work less. They are also a massive risk. They could be disabled. They could hate me. Cats are so cute :D.",
">\n\nSome people like that may be suffering from unresolved trauma to do with children - childhood abuse or bullying, for example, or infertility or child bereavement, where they associate children with extreme pain, and pets may offer a refuge. Of course this doesn’t mean disrespecting children is ever ok, but trying to see the deeper causes of such behavior may help towards understanding and healing.",
">\n\nYeah they are sad people",
">\n\nI don't mind kids I guess. I just have no idea how to talk to them. It's just awkward to be around them. I also know I'm not in a position to have a kid even if I want one. So I have cats.",
">\n\n99.99% of people who dislike children, are manchildren/womanchildren themselves, and at the very least emotionally stunted. \nThey are basically like that Alan dude from Hangover movies.",
">\n\nI agree with you . . Western ideology is suicidal to Civilization.. a woman who doesnt want kids cannot be taken serious by a Man who knows his worth .. Kids being Annoying is the prize to pay to build a family. . People who think otherwise ,i just wish their parents didnt want kids as well or thier grandparents didn't want kids or great grand parents ..lmao ..",
">\n\nyou need a therapist",
">\n\nYou too are incredibly annoying"
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"I think most people don’t wish children didn’t exist, but that they annoy them which is totally valid",
">\n\nYup that's exactly it. Well I wish badly behaving kids didn't exist, but as this isn't quite possible I just wish they'd stop annoying the whole neighbourhood while screaming as if they are about to die.",
">\n\nLet's say it depends on the kids as well as the pets? Some children are wonderful, some are awful (I don't automatically blame the parents - but I expect them to have some awareness and not pretend that their screeching animal abusing tantrum throwing terror is an adorable angel).",
">\n\nI automatically blame the parents. It is literally their fault. 1 of 2 things could be blamed. Their terrible parenting, or worse pull out game.",
">\n\nI don't specifically like kids, but i don't outright hate them. I just find them to be too much for me in some cases",
">\n\nThere's a pretty big leap from \"finding kids a nuisance\" to \"wanting them to cease to exist\" there, champ.\nI'm not a fan of children, but I wish them no harm. If one of them is being a little shit near me, I will remove myself from the situation, not the child.",
">\n\nIt’s not about hating kids, it’s about hating the response you get when you say you don’t want kids. That drives a feeling of “hating kids”, but the idea not the actual children. \nOur society pushes family ideology hard, and if you resist then you receive a lot of negative impacts. Everything from bullying to worse work assignments. For this reason, many take the leap of having children when they shouldn’t, and it can create traumatized children who didn’t ask to be born into that toxic situation \nPets don’t judge you, and they are far less responsibility. If anything, pets over children is pragmatic, not a red flag",
">\n\nAs someone who agrees with OPs opinion, noone should be forced to have kids. It's just about hating kids for existing. I think many people get annoyed by one kid in public and then post \"I hate children so much they should die\" on the internet. I think OP probably means that kind of hate.",
">\n\nYour goal posts are pretty spread apart\nNot everyone who is uneasy around children wants them to exist.\nAdmittedly I've never referred to my son as furbaby, but even if I did that doesn't automatically make me 100% intolerant of kids.\nI'm intolerant and wary of kids who act the way they do because mommy and daddy had no business bringing them into the world ie, no parenting skills whatsoever. Kids will be kids only stretches so far and if the people who are supposed to be nuturing, authority figures in their lives don't do anything except stick i-phones in their screaming kids face\nI'm going to judge. It doesn't mean I wish anything on the kid,but the situation as a whole is going to just further make me appreciate my cat lol",
">\n\nI am 25 and I absolutely dont ever want kids, i understand that i could absolutely change my mind although i dont think i will. Kids are absolutely annoying and very much so are a nuisance, BUT so am i lol so i dont have hate children necessarily i just have no interest in the responsibilities and will settle for dogs. Not sure if i qualify fir your red flag with that but I don’t care either way.",
">\n\nI don't like having pets or kids do I pass the test?",
">\n\nIf you do not like having them but do not hate them when they exist, hell yeah",
">\n\nno i dont hate them. id probably hate having them if I did though.",
">\n\nThe good news is that those people, the ones who prefer animals over children, likely don’t care about being friends with you either. It’s a win-win.",
">\n\nPeople can not like children. I work with people on the autism spectrum for a living. I’ve found many of my older clients do not like children. Children cause them pain and increase their stress to a point they have panic attacks. So they don’t like children and want nothing to do with them. That’s ok. There is nothing wrong with that. It’s not a red flag.",
">\n\nI'm noise sensitive and being around kids usually causes me physical pain. Of course I don't like being around kids, I'm not a masochist",
">\n\nI feel you on that one and it puzzles me why many people cannot grasp that concept. I often get headaches, also cluster ones, can be caused by high pitched noises. Being around (loud) kids is literally painful...",
">\n\nHating children is a massive red flag in general. It’s ok to not want to have them or be around them, but the existence of kids should not be hated upon.",
">\n\nI don't think that person exists, tbh",
">\n\nSo because you love your pets you also have to love all kids too?? I thought respect was earned.",
">\n\nNobody hates kids, OP is just admittedly on reddit too much and needs to go outside and touch grass. \n\nMay be that I digitally live in a specific kid-hating bubble,",
">\n\nPets are cheaper than kids. Some people don't like kids, nothing wrong with that. You're looking at it all wrong. \nIt's the people that abuse animals and humans that have the red flag.",
">\n\nI would hands down rather spend my time with animals. Animals don't overstimulate me and get on my nerves. 🚩🚩🚩",
">\n\nFound one",
">\n\nKeep looking. There's lots of us.",
">\n\nI personally think it's ok to be annoyed by children (without dehumanizing them ofc) but not hate them. Tbh, kids annoy me sometimes. Does that mean that I don't respect them as whole human beings and that I wish they didn't exist? Nope. They can just be annoying, and it's ok to feel that way when kids do things that are mean or socially unacceptable. Obvi ppl shouldn't react to that annoyance by treating children as if they absolutely should have known better, because, no, they shouldn't have known better. They're in their learning years, so it's to be expected that they're going to say or do some rude ass shit. That's when their parents/family should teach them ways of being nicer and more considerate, but that also doesn't mean that someone is bad for being annoyed by bad behavior that children display.\nI have a small cousin that kept telling her step-cousin that shes ugly and kept hitting her. It annoyed me, and dare I say, made me angry. I ofc, didn't wish she didn't exist LMFAO. I just explained to her that that's incredibly rude and she wouldn't like it if done to her. Kids are mean like this a lot. It's ok for adults to also find that behavior annoying while also recognizing that kids are learning as well. Adults are allowed to feel negative emotions toward children in general without also wanting them to not be alive lol",
">\n\nI used to work in a toy shop. I was annoyed about parents. You would see a kid throwing products on the ground and their parents walking casually around as nothing happened. Other kids were screaming/crying and the parents either didn't care or were trying to please their demands. Those parents are shit and the root of the problem. On the other hand I liked when I saw a parent with his polite kid shopping. Or when a kid was misbehaving and the parent just took him out of the store. These parents know what their doing. So many people don't actually hate kids. Some kids are just little a-holes just like their parents.",
">\n\nI love kids (but don’t plan on having one) and pets and have to say you’re getting it all wrong. Some people just CAN’T deal with them, like it causes them physical pain and sensory overload. And there’s a huge leap between “kids are sorta annoying” to “hurt durr they should cease 2 exist!!1!”",
">\n\nI do not like kids. At all. I think they're gross and annoying but I do not wish they ceased to exist. To assume that everyone that doesn't like kids wished they didn't exist is quite a bold claim. Like I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes kids have to exist -- you can't be born an adult. That doesn't mean I have to like them. I don't hate them with a fiery passion or anything, but I really do not like them and will do my best to avoid them as much as possible. \nThat said, I love pets. So much. Having \"fur babies\" instead of actual babies isn't immediately concerning. Most pet owners who don't have kids are still incredibly empathetic. Sure, they're not always, but parents aren't always either (and to assume people with kids are automatically more empathetic than those with fur babies is just inherently wrong). It does not automatically have to be a control thing, and to make it one is overgeneralizing and also ignoring the fact that there are parents that are massively controlling and expect their kids to do what they say and not talk back.",
">\n\nNo. It's not about disliking children, pets are simply far less to handle. Feeding, grooming, and walking a dog is much less effort than raising a child for 18 years. \nAlso, not everybody wants children. It's a massive amount of time and money being put into one person, when quite honestly it's usually not worth it. The societal expectations for everyone to have kids is just weird.",
">\n\nMore than red flag, I think it's an indication of childhood emotional neglect. Often severely abused children who are not able to even talk to therapists are able to after interacting with animals for a time.\nMan is a social creature. Anything that makes us prefer animals and isolate from fellow humans, is a sign of mental health issues, but it's treatable.",
">\n\nThat's a bit if a stretch there. I like fellow humans as long as they are adults and are able to engage in a normal conversation. I am very socially active and by no means isolated.\nStill don't enjoy being around children. They are loud, whiney, they drool and put everything in their mouth, they start screaming if things don't go their way, and there is nothing interesting for me to talk to them about. That's VERY different than engaging with adults.",
">\n\nYou suck, we can all tell",
">\n\nI have no interest in being a surrogate to someone else's children. Children are the responsibility of their guardians. If children are noisy and disruptive, it is generally the parental figure's fault. Children are no longer being taught to behave as appropriately as they once were. When I was a child, I was simply not allowed to run around breaking things in public, throwing food, and screaming like a banshee. There is no developmental phase past infancy that requires children do this.",
">\n\nYou're saying kids and pets are close to the same thing. They aren't. I personally don't like either.",
">\n\nI love dogs but I absolutely hate being in the presence of children. Hate is the right word; good kid, bad kid, don’t care, can’t fu**ing stand them - vasectomy at 28, would rather go to federal prison than have a kid, but I love my 2 dogs more than anything in the world. I wish kids no harm but I do not do any activities in my life where children would ever be present, if I’m at a restaurant and your shit baby cries, I absolutely complain without hesitation / I fully cut off friends that decide to have kids. I will never babysit, never hold it, it will never be allowed in my house, ever. But I don’t wish them harm…",
">\n\nI think you could expand that from children to humans in general. Your dog can't fight with you about politics or religion. Your dog can't tell you he voted for Trump. That doesn't mean dogs are better than people, just that you can't handle those who don't agree with you about everything, and have their own opinions they may fight with you about. The \"I hate people and only like dogs\" crowd are basically telling you they only like mindless creatures without opinions of their own, who depend on making you love them to survive.",
">\n\n\nYour dog can't tell you he voted for Trump.\n\nHe doesn't want to admit that or he's out",
">\n\nEspecially the pieces of shit that call child abuse “discipline”",
">\n\nHitting your child after giving several warnings is not child abuse.",
">\n\nNever ever get children. Hittind your child is abuse. \nDo you also hit your partner when they don't do as you wish after several warnings and they that's not abuse either ?",
">\n\nBad experience with children on my flight back home. Kicking and screaming....",
">\n\nI love how specific people get with their opinions, Nicely done. - Not sarcastic btw",
">\n\nIn my defence I hat myself too.\nOk real talk though can we all stop having so many kids? Thanks.",
">\n\nStrongly preferring a different species over your own is a clear sign of something wrong mentally. If I prefer a cockroach or pit bull over other humans, is it normal?",
">\n\nKeep in mind some humans are far worse than a cockroach or pit bull...",
">\n\n“Some” = / = an entire species",
">\n\nThe way humanity is going down hill these days, Id rather hang with the animals.",
">\n\nI don't hate kids but I certainly don't want kids they are way to expensive. I would rather have my money and work less. They are also a massive risk. They could be disabled. They could hate me. Cats are so cute :D.",
">\n\nSome people like that may be suffering from unresolved trauma to do with children - childhood abuse or bullying, for example, or infertility or child bereavement, where they associate children with extreme pain, and pets may offer a refuge. Of course this doesn’t mean disrespecting children is ever ok, but trying to see the deeper causes of such behavior may help towards understanding and healing.",
">\n\nYeah they are sad people",
">\n\nI don't mind kids I guess. I just have no idea how to talk to them. It's just awkward to be around them. I also know I'm not in a position to have a kid even if I want one. So I have cats.",
">\n\n99.99% of people who dislike children, are manchildren/womanchildren themselves, and at the very least emotionally stunted. \nThey are basically like that Alan dude from Hangover movies.",
">\n\nI agree with you . . Western ideology is suicidal to Civilization.. a woman who doesnt want kids cannot be taken serious by a Man who knows his worth .. Kids being Annoying is the prize to pay to build a family. . People who think otherwise ,i just wish their parents didnt want kids as well or thier grandparents didn't want kids or great grand parents ..lmao ..",
">\n\nyou need a therapist",
">\n\nYou too are incredibly annoying",
">\n\nI completely agree. And then they share clip of kids being chaotic followed by condom commercial."
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The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?
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I have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.
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NY Times did an investigation.
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">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected."
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[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times
Edit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:
[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post
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"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation."
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This is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere
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"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post"
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Got a source for that? Or just speculation?
Edit: This just popped up in my feed:
[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post
That paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.
Yeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were "tipped off", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.
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"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere"
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I read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.
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"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader."
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Aren't most Jews in America left-leaning?
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"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile."
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Yup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.
But Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.
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"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?"
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I feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.
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"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist."
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Nah we definitely lean left my guy not right.
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[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends."
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Poor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).
In short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.
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[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right."
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Except Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like "OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess..."
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[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right."
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Amazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money.
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[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\""
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Problem?
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[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\"",
">\n\nAmazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money."
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American Jews are the second-most left-leaning religious opinion group, second only to atheists.
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[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\"",
">\n\nAmazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money.",
">\n\nProblem?"
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Unfortunately that’s still 10% of Jews who vote GOP because they care more about their money than enabling actual fascists.
The Kushners are the perfect example. Jared stood by as Trump said terribly antisemitic shit.
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[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\"",
">\n\nAmazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money.",
">\n\nProblem?",
">\n\nAmerican Jews are the second-most left-leaning religious opinion group, second only to atheists."
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It's not even that. The jews that I know are entirely single-issue voters. GOP talks a big game about supporting Israel and as long as they do that they will get a percentage of the jewish vote.
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[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\"",
">\n\nAmazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money.",
">\n\nProblem?",
">\n\nAmerican Jews are the second-most left-leaning religious opinion group, second only to atheists.",
">\n\nUnfortunately that’s still 10% of Jews who vote GOP because they care more about their money than enabling actual fascists. \nThe Kushners are the perfect example. Jared stood by as Trump said terribly antisemitic shit."
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But why do American Jews care about Israel? It’s a tiny geography that can’t possibly fit every American jew.
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[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\"",
">\n\nAmazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money.",
">\n\nProblem?",
">\n\nAmerican Jews are the second-most left-leaning religious opinion group, second only to atheists.",
">\n\nUnfortunately that’s still 10% of Jews who vote GOP because they care more about their money than enabling actual fascists. \nThe Kushners are the perfect example. Jared stood by as Trump said terribly antisemitic shit.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. The jews that I know are entirely single-issue voters. GOP talks a big game about supporting Israel and as long as they do that they will get a percentage of the jewish vote."
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I'm not Jewish, but I imagine the legacy citizenship option has got a lot to do with it.
There's a lot of prominent people stoking anti-Semitic sentiments here in the states. I bet having the option to relocate to a Jewish country relatively hassle-free has gotta be looking really appealing to a bunch of people right now.
We had literal flag-flying Nazis camped out on overpasses in the Jewish part of town a couple months ago. It's not hyperbole to say Jewish people are not safe here, and it's fucking disgusting.
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[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\"",
">\n\nAmazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money.",
">\n\nProblem?",
">\n\nAmerican Jews are the second-most left-leaning religious opinion group, second only to atheists.",
">\n\nUnfortunately that’s still 10% of Jews who vote GOP because they care more about their money than enabling actual fascists. \nThe Kushners are the perfect example. Jared stood by as Trump said terribly antisemitic shit.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. The jews that I know are entirely single-issue voters. GOP talks a big game about supporting Israel and as long as they do that they will get a percentage of the jewish vote.",
">\n\nBut why do American Jews care about Israel? It’s a tiny geography that can’t possibly fit every American jew."
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There are various reason people support Israel in the states. However, the most common conservative political reason is religious - evangelical to be specific. They believe when the Jews return to Israel, it will precede the second coming.
There is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, is an import US defense partner (we use their weapon designs), and holy land tourism is important in the Bible Belt. Plus people still feel bad about the Holocaust. And Israel’s survival against numerically superior neighbors has an underdog quality Americans love.
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[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\"",
">\n\nAmazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money.",
">\n\nProblem?",
">\n\nAmerican Jews are the second-most left-leaning religious opinion group, second only to atheists.",
">\n\nUnfortunately that’s still 10% of Jews who vote GOP because they care more about their money than enabling actual fascists. \nThe Kushners are the perfect example. Jared stood by as Trump said terribly antisemitic shit.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. The jews that I know are entirely single-issue voters. GOP talks a big game about supporting Israel and as long as they do that they will get a percentage of the jewish vote.",
">\n\nBut why do American Jews care about Israel? It’s a tiny geography that can’t possibly fit every American jew.",
">\n\nI'm not Jewish, but I imagine the legacy citizenship option has got a lot to do with it.\nThere's a lot of prominent people stoking anti-Semitic sentiments here in the states. I bet having the option to relocate to a Jewish country relatively hassle-free has gotta be looking really appealing to a bunch of people right now.\nWe had literal flag-flying Nazis camped out on overpasses in the Jewish part of town a couple months ago. It's not hyperbole to say Jewish people are not safe here, and it's fucking disgusting."
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There is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East,
Israel is actually the only Democracy in the Middle East. It's also the only country in the Middle East where it's legal to be gay (they have Pride Parades and everything), and they even offer asylum to any LGBTQ+ Arabs who need it, including LGBTQ+ Palestinians, as Palestinians brutally murder homosexuals. In fact there was a recent story of Palestinians tracking down in Israel a gay Palestinian who had been granted asylum and brutally murdering him.
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[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\"",
">\n\nAmazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money.",
">\n\nProblem?",
">\n\nAmerican Jews are the second-most left-leaning religious opinion group, second only to atheists.",
">\n\nUnfortunately that’s still 10% of Jews who vote GOP because they care more about their money than enabling actual fascists. \nThe Kushners are the perfect example. Jared stood by as Trump said terribly antisemitic shit.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. The jews that I know are entirely single-issue voters. GOP talks a big game about supporting Israel and as long as they do that they will get a percentage of the jewish vote.",
">\n\nBut why do American Jews care about Israel? It’s a tiny geography that can’t possibly fit every American jew.",
">\n\nI'm not Jewish, but I imagine the legacy citizenship option has got a lot to do with it.\nThere's a lot of prominent people stoking anti-Semitic sentiments here in the states. I bet having the option to relocate to a Jewish country relatively hassle-free has gotta be looking really appealing to a bunch of people right now.\nWe had literal flag-flying Nazis camped out on overpasses in the Jewish part of town a couple months ago. It's not hyperbole to say Jewish people are not safe here, and it's fucking disgusting.",
">\n\nThere are various reason people support Israel in the states. However, the most common conservative political reason is religious - evangelical to be specific. They believe when the Jews return to Israel, it will precede the second coming. \nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, is an import US defense partner (we use their weapon designs), and holy land tourism is important in the Bible Belt. Plus people still feel bad about the Holocaust. And Israel’s survival against numerically superior neighbors has an underdog quality Americans love."
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Israel is not the only democracy in the middle east. They also are not a democracy when you consider the millions of Palestinians under their control that will never be allowed to vote.
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[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\"",
">\n\nAmazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money.",
">\n\nProblem?",
">\n\nAmerican Jews are the second-most left-leaning religious opinion group, second only to atheists.",
">\n\nUnfortunately that’s still 10% of Jews who vote GOP because they care more about their money than enabling actual fascists. \nThe Kushners are the perfect example. Jared stood by as Trump said terribly antisemitic shit.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. The jews that I know are entirely single-issue voters. GOP talks a big game about supporting Israel and as long as they do that they will get a percentage of the jewish vote.",
">\n\nBut why do American Jews care about Israel? It’s a tiny geography that can’t possibly fit every American jew.",
">\n\nI'm not Jewish, but I imagine the legacy citizenship option has got a lot to do with it.\nThere's a lot of prominent people stoking anti-Semitic sentiments here in the states. I bet having the option to relocate to a Jewish country relatively hassle-free has gotta be looking really appealing to a bunch of people right now.\nWe had literal flag-flying Nazis camped out on overpasses in the Jewish part of town a couple months ago. It's not hyperbole to say Jewish people are not safe here, and it's fucking disgusting.",
">\n\nThere are various reason people support Israel in the states. However, the most common conservative political reason is religious - evangelical to be specific. They believe when the Jews return to Israel, it will precede the second coming. \nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, is an import US defense partner (we use their weapon designs), and holy land tourism is important in the Bible Belt. Plus people still feel bad about the Holocaust. And Israel’s survival against numerically superior neighbors has an underdog quality Americans love.",
">\n\n\nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, \n\nIsrael is actually the only Democracy in the Middle East. It's also the only country in the Middle East where it's legal to be gay (they have Pride Parades and everything), and they even offer asylum to any LGBTQ+ Arabs who need it, including LGBTQ+ Palestinians, as Palestinians brutally murder homosexuals. In fact there was a recent story of Palestinians tracking down in Israel a gay Palestinian who had been granted asylum and brutally murdering him."
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Just for context, the majority of American Jews are left leaning (In the 2018 midterms, Jews were again the most Democratic group as designated by religious identity, with 79% voting for the Democrats while 17% voted for the Republicans. source.
So this is kinda a weird narrative
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"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\"",
">\n\nAmazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money.",
">\n\nProblem?",
">\n\nAmerican Jews are the second-most left-leaning religious opinion group, second only to atheists.",
">\n\nUnfortunately that’s still 10% of Jews who vote GOP because they care more about their money than enabling actual fascists. \nThe Kushners are the perfect example. Jared stood by as Trump said terribly antisemitic shit.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. The jews that I know are entirely single-issue voters. GOP talks a big game about supporting Israel and as long as they do that they will get a percentage of the jewish vote.",
">\n\nBut why do American Jews care about Israel? It’s a tiny geography that can’t possibly fit every American jew.",
">\n\nI'm not Jewish, but I imagine the legacy citizenship option has got a lot to do with it.\nThere's a lot of prominent people stoking anti-Semitic sentiments here in the states. I bet having the option to relocate to a Jewish country relatively hassle-free has gotta be looking really appealing to a bunch of people right now.\nWe had literal flag-flying Nazis camped out on overpasses in the Jewish part of town a couple months ago. It's not hyperbole to say Jewish people are not safe here, and it's fucking disgusting.",
">\n\nThere are various reason people support Israel in the states. However, the most common conservative political reason is religious - evangelical to be specific. They believe when the Jews return to Israel, it will precede the second coming. \nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, is an import US defense partner (we use their weapon designs), and holy land tourism is important in the Bible Belt. Plus people still feel bad about the Holocaust. And Israel’s survival against numerically superior neighbors has an underdog quality Americans love.",
">\n\n\nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, \n\nIsrael is actually the only Democracy in the Middle East. It's also the only country in the Middle East where it's legal to be gay (they have Pride Parades and everything), and they even offer asylum to any LGBTQ+ Arabs who need it, including LGBTQ+ Palestinians, as Palestinians brutally murder homosexuals. In fact there was a recent story of Palestinians tracking down in Israel a gay Palestinian who had been granted asylum and brutally murdering him.",
">\n\nIsrael is not the only democracy in the middle east. They also are not a democracy when you consider the millions of Palestinians under their control that will never be allowed to vote."
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Is it me or do Republicans and conservatives presume that American Jews MUST be right wing?
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[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\"",
">\n\nAmazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money.",
">\n\nProblem?",
">\n\nAmerican Jews are the second-most left-leaning religious opinion group, second only to atheists.",
">\n\nUnfortunately that’s still 10% of Jews who vote GOP because they care more about their money than enabling actual fascists. \nThe Kushners are the perfect example. Jared stood by as Trump said terribly antisemitic shit.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. The jews that I know are entirely single-issue voters. GOP talks a big game about supporting Israel and as long as they do that they will get a percentage of the jewish vote.",
">\n\nBut why do American Jews care about Israel? It’s a tiny geography that can’t possibly fit every American jew.",
">\n\nI'm not Jewish, but I imagine the legacy citizenship option has got a lot to do with it.\nThere's a lot of prominent people stoking anti-Semitic sentiments here in the states. I bet having the option to relocate to a Jewish country relatively hassle-free has gotta be looking really appealing to a bunch of people right now.\nWe had literal flag-flying Nazis camped out on overpasses in the Jewish part of town a couple months ago. It's not hyperbole to say Jewish people are not safe here, and it's fucking disgusting.",
">\n\nThere are various reason people support Israel in the states. However, the most common conservative political reason is religious - evangelical to be specific. They believe when the Jews return to Israel, it will precede the second coming. \nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, is an import US defense partner (we use their weapon designs), and holy land tourism is important in the Bible Belt. Plus people still feel bad about the Holocaust. And Israel’s survival against numerically superior neighbors has an underdog quality Americans love.",
">\n\n\nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, \n\nIsrael is actually the only Democracy in the Middle East. It's also the only country in the Middle East where it's legal to be gay (they have Pride Parades and everything), and they even offer asylum to any LGBTQ+ Arabs who need it, including LGBTQ+ Palestinians, as Palestinians brutally murder homosexuals. In fact there was a recent story of Palestinians tracking down in Israel a gay Palestinian who had been granted asylum and brutally murdering him.",
">\n\nIsrael is not the only democracy in the middle east. They also are not a democracy when you consider the millions of Palestinians under their control that will never be allowed to vote.",
">\n\nJust for context, the majority of American Jews are left leaning (In the 2018 midterms, Jews were again the most Democratic group as designated by religious identity, with 79% voting for the Democrats while 17% voted for the Republicans. source.\nSo this is kinda a weird narrative"
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most, if not all, organized religions are right-wing. just different flavors of the same authoritarian soup.
|
[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\"",
">\n\nAmazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money.",
">\n\nProblem?",
">\n\nAmerican Jews are the second-most left-leaning religious opinion group, second only to atheists.",
">\n\nUnfortunately that’s still 10% of Jews who vote GOP because they care more about their money than enabling actual fascists. \nThe Kushners are the perfect example. Jared stood by as Trump said terribly antisemitic shit.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. The jews that I know are entirely single-issue voters. GOP talks a big game about supporting Israel and as long as they do that they will get a percentage of the jewish vote.",
">\n\nBut why do American Jews care about Israel? It’s a tiny geography that can’t possibly fit every American jew.",
">\n\nI'm not Jewish, but I imagine the legacy citizenship option has got a lot to do with it.\nThere's a lot of prominent people stoking anti-Semitic sentiments here in the states. I bet having the option to relocate to a Jewish country relatively hassle-free has gotta be looking really appealing to a bunch of people right now.\nWe had literal flag-flying Nazis camped out on overpasses in the Jewish part of town a couple months ago. It's not hyperbole to say Jewish people are not safe here, and it's fucking disgusting.",
">\n\nThere are various reason people support Israel in the states. However, the most common conservative political reason is religious - evangelical to be specific. They believe when the Jews return to Israel, it will precede the second coming. \nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, is an import US defense partner (we use their weapon designs), and holy land tourism is important in the Bible Belt. Plus people still feel bad about the Holocaust. And Israel’s survival against numerically superior neighbors has an underdog quality Americans love.",
">\n\n\nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, \n\nIsrael is actually the only Democracy in the Middle East. It's also the only country in the Middle East where it's legal to be gay (they have Pride Parades and everything), and they even offer asylum to any LGBTQ+ Arabs who need it, including LGBTQ+ Palestinians, as Palestinians brutally murder homosexuals. In fact there was a recent story of Palestinians tracking down in Israel a gay Palestinian who had been granted asylum and brutally murdering him.",
">\n\nIsrael is not the only democracy in the middle east. They also are not a democracy when you consider the millions of Palestinians under their control that will never be allowed to vote.",
">\n\nJust for context, the majority of American Jews are left leaning (In the 2018 midterms, Jews were again the most Democratic group as designated by religious identity, with 79% voting for the Democrats while 17% voted for the Republicans. source.\nSo this is kinda a weird narrative",
">\n\nIs it me or do Republicans and conservatives presume that American Jews MUST be right wing?"
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The majority of American Jews are left wing.
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[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\"",
">\n\nAmazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money.",
">\n\nProblem?",
">\n\nAmerican Jews are the second-most left-leaning religious opinion group, second only to atheists.",
">\n\nUnfortunately that’s still 10% of Jews who vote GOP because they care more about their money than enabling actual fascists. \nThe Kushners are the perfect example. Jared stood by as Trump said terribly antisemitic shit.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. The jews that I know are entirely single-issue voters. GOP talks a big game about supporting Israel and as long as they do that they will get a percentage of the jewish vote.",
">\n\nBut why do American Jews care about Israel? It’s a tiny geography that can’t possibly fit every American jew.",
">\n\nI'm not Jewish, but I imagine the legacy citizenship option has got a lot to do with it.\nThere's a lot of prominent people stoking anti-Semitic sentiments here in the states. I bet having the option to relocate to a Jewish country relatively hassle-free has gotta be looking really appealing to a bunch of people right now.\nWe had literal flag-flying Nazis camped out on overpasses in the Jewish part of town a couple months ago. It's not hyperbole to say Jewish people are not safe here, and it's fucking disgusting.",
">\n\nThere are various reason people support Israel in the states. However, the most common conservative political reason is religious - evangelical to be specific. They believe when the Jews return to Israel, it will precede the second coming. \nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, is an import US defense partner (we use their weapon designs), and holy land tourism is important in the Bible Belt. Plus people still feel bad about the Holocaust. And Israel’s survival against numerically superior neighbors has an underdog quality Americans love.",
">\n\n\nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, \n\nIsrael is actually the only Democracy in the Middle East. It's also the only country in the Middle East where it's legal to be gay (they have Pride Parades and everything), and they even offer asylum to any LGBTQ+ Arabs who need it, including LGBTQ+ Palestinians, as Palestinians brutally murder homosexuals. In fact there was a recent story of Palestinians tracking down in Israel a gay Palestinian who had been granted asylum and brutally murdering him.",
">\n\nIsrael is not the only democracy in the middle east. They also are not a democracy when you consider the millions of Palestinians under their control that will never be allowed to vote.",
">\n\nJust for context, the majority of American Jews are left leaning (In the 2018 midterms, Jews were again the most Democratic group as designated by religious identity, with 79% voting for the Democrats while 17% voted for the Republicans. source.\nSo this is kinda a weird narrative",
">\n\nIs it me or do Republicans and conservatives presume that American Jews MUST be right wing?",
">\n\nmost, if not all, organized religions are right-wing. just different flavors of the same authoritarian soup."
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Ya, but not all American Jews are religious. I'd wager that most aren't religious even.
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[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\"",
">\n\nAmazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money.",
">\n\nProblem?",
">\n\nAmerican Jews are the second-most left-leaning religious opinion group, second only to atheists.",
">\n\nUnfortunately that’s still 10% of Jews who vote GOP because they care more about their money than enabling actual fascists. \nThe Kushners are the perfect example. Jared stood by as Trump said terribly antisemitic shit.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. The jews that I know are entirely single-issue voters. GOP talks a big game about supporting Israel and as long as they do that they will get a percentage of the jewish vote.",
">\n\nBut why do American Jews care about Israel? It’s a tiny geography that can’t possibly fit every American jew.",
">\n\nI'm not Jewish, but I imagine the legacy citizenship option has got a lot to do with it.\nThere's a lot of prominent people stoking anti-Semitic sentiments here in the states. I bet having the option to relocate to a Jewish country relatively hassle-free has gotta be looking really appealing to a bunch of people right now.\nWe had literal flag-flying Nazis camped out on overpasses in the Jewish part of town a couple months ago. It's not hyperbole to say Jewish people are not safe here, and it's fucking disgusting.",
">\n\nThere are various reason people support Israel in the states. However, the most common conservative political reason is religious - evangelical to be specific. They believe when the Jews return to Israel, it will precede the second coming. \nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, is an import US defense partner (we use their weapon designs), and holy land tourism is important in the Bible Belt. Plus people still feel bad about the Holocaust. And Israel’s survival against numerically superior neighbors has an underdog quality Americans love.",
">\n\n\nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, \n\nIsrael is actually the only Democracy in the Middle East. It's also the only country in the Middle East where it's legal to be gay (they have Pride Parades and everything), and they even offer asylum to any LGBTQ+ Arabs who need it, including LGBTQ+ Palestinians, as Palestinians brutally murder homosexuals. In fact there was a recent story of Palestinians tracking down in Israel a gay Palestinian who had been granted asylum and brutally murdering him.",
">\n\nIsrael is not the only democracy in the middle east. They also are not a democracy when you consider the millions of Palestinians under their control that will never be allowed to vote.",
">\n\nJust for context, the majority of American Jews are left leaning (In the 2018 midterms, Jews were again the most Democratic group as designated by religious identity, with 79% voting for the Democrats while 17% voted for the Republicans. source.\nSo this is kinda a weird narrative",
">\n\nIs it me or do Republicans and conservatives presume that American Jews MUST be right wing?",
">\n\nmost, if not all, organized religions are right-wing. just different flavors of the same authoritarian soup.",
">\n\nThe majority of American Jews are left wing."
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That's irrelevant. Judaism is more than just a religion.
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[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\"",
">\n\nAmazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money.",
">\n\nProblem?",
">\n\nAmerican Jews are the second-most left-leaning religious opinion group, second only to atheists.",
">\n\nUnfortunately that’s still 10% of Jews who vote GOP because they care more about their money than enabling actual fascists. \nThe Kushners are the perfect example. Jared stood by as Trump said terribly antisemitic shit.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. The jews that I know are entirely single-issue voters. GOP talks a big game about supporting Israel and as long as they do that they will get a percentage of the jewish vote.",
">\n\nBut why do American Jews care about Israel? It’s a tiny geography that can’t possibly fit every American jew.",
">\n\nI'm not Jewish, but I imagine the legacy citizenship option has got a lot to do with it.\nThere's a lot of prominent people stoking anti-Semitic sentiments here in the states. I bet having the option to relocate to a Jewish country relatively hassle-free has gotta be looking really appealing to a bunch of people right now.\nWe had literal flag-flying Nazis camped out on overpasses in the Jewish part of town a couple months ago. It's not hyperbole to say Jewish people are not safe here, and it's fucking disgusting.",
">\n\nThere are various reason people support Israel in the states. However, the most common conservative political reason is religious - evangelical to be specific. They believe when the Jews return to Israel, it will precede the second coming. \nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, is an import US defense partner (we use their weapon designs), and holy land tourism is important in the Bible Belt. Plus people still feel bad about the Holocaust. And Israel’s survival against numerically superior neighbors has an underdog quality Americans love.",
">\n\n\nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, \n\nIsrael is actually the only Democracy in the Middle East. It's also the only country in the Middle East where it's legal to be gay (they have Pride Parades and everything), and they even offer asylum to any LGBTQ+ Arabs who need it, including LGBTQ+ Palestinians, as Palestinians brutally murder homosexuals. In fact there was a recent story of Palestinians tracking down in Israel a gay Palestinian who had been granted asylum and brutally murdering him.",
">\n\nIsrael is not the only democracy in the middle east. They also are not a democracy when you consider the millions of Palestinians under their control that will never be allowed to vote.",
">\n\nJust for context, the majority of American Jews are left leaning (In the 2018 midterms, Jews were again the most Democratic group as designated by religious identity, with 79% voting for the Democrats while 17% voted for the Republicans. source.\nSo this is kinda a weird narrative",
">\n\nIs it me or do Republicans and conservatives presume that American Jews MUST be right wing?",
">\n\nmost, if not all, organized religions are right-wing. just different flavors of the same authoritarian soup.",
">\n\nThe majority of American Jews are left wing.",
">\n\nYa, but not all American Jews are religious. I'd wager that most aren't religious even."
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In late November, the Daily Beast reported that Andrew Intrater — a cousin of and money manager for sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg — gave more than $56,000 to political committees supporting Santos, who defeated Democrat Robert Zimmerman Nov. 8.
Background:
Viktor Vekselberg is a Ukrainian-born oligarch with links to donations to both the Clinton Foundation and the Trump inaugural fund. Vekselberg, who has ties with Putin and has publicly advocated for lifting U.S. Sanctions on Russia, previously served on the board of the sanctioned Russian oil company Rosnef and reportedly holds “signicant interest” in Oleg Deripaska’s company, Rusal. Vekselberg was part of the financial conglomerate Alfa-Access-Renova Consortium alongside fellow oligarchs Mikhail Fridman, German Khan, and Len Blavatnik. He also owns the diversfied holding company Renova Group. Andrew Intrater, the CEO of Columbus Nova, which has been described as “the U.S. investment vehicle for the Renova Group,” donated $250,000 to Trump’s inauguration fund. Prior to this donation, the Trump campaign had criticized Hillary Clinton after it was revealed that the Clinton Foundation had accepted large donations from Renova Group. Vekselberg has come in contact with several individuals linked to the Trump Campaign. He attended the December 2015 RT anniversary gala alongside both Michael Flynn and Putin. He also attended a 2014 fundraising event for the Moscow Jewish Museum, which was attended by both Jared and Ivanka Trump. Vekselberg also has ties to U.S. Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross due to a 2014 partnership with Renova Group involving the Bank of Cyprus; Renova Group is currently the largest shareholder in Bank of Cyprus, while Wilbur Ross served on the bank’s Board for several years before becoming Secretary of Commerce.
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[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\"",
">\n\nAmazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money.",
">\n\nProblem?",
">\n\nAmerican Jews are the second-most left-leaning religious opinion group, second only to atheists.",
">\n\nUnfortunately that’s still 10% of Jews who vote GOP because they care more about their money than enabling actual fascists. \nThe Kushners are the perfect example. Jared stood by as Trump said terribly antisemitic shit.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. The jews that I know are entirely single-issue voters. GOP talks a big game about supporting Israel and as long as they do that they will get a percentage of the jewish vote.",
">\n\nBut why do American Jews care about Israel? It’s a tiny geography that can’t possibly fit every American jew.",
">\n\nI'm not Jewish, but I imagine the legacy citizenship option has got a lot to do with it.\nThere's a lot of prominent people stoking anti-Semitic sentiments here in the states. I bet having the option to relocate to a Jewish country relatively hassle-free has gotta be looking really appealing to a bunch of people right now.\nWe had literal flag-flying Nazis camped out on overpasses in the Jewish part of town a couple months ago. It's not hyperbole to say Jewish people are not safe here, and it's fucking disgusting.",
">\n\nThere are various reason people support Israel in the states. However, the most common conservative political reason is religious - evangelical to be specific. They believe when the Jews return to Israel, it will precede the second coming. \nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, is an import US defense partner (we use their weapon designs), and holy land tourism is important in the Bible Belt. Plus people still feel bad about the Holocaust. And Israel’s survival against numerically superior neighbors has an underdog quality Americans love.",
">\n\n\nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, \n\nIsrael is actually the only Democracy in the Middle East. It's also the only country in the Middle East where it's legal to be gay (they have Pride Parades and everything), and they even offer asylum to any LGBTQ+ Arabs who need it, including LGBTQ+ Palestinians, as Palestinians brutally murder homosexuals. In fact there was a recent story of Palestinians tracking down in Israel a gay Palestinian who had been granted asylum and brutally murdering him.",
">\n\nIsrael is not the only democracy in the middle east. They also are not a democracy when you consider the millions of Palestinians under their control that will never be allowed to vote.",
">\n\nJust for context, the majority of American Jews are left leaning (In the 2018 midterms, Jews were again the most Democratic group as designated by religious identity, with 79% voting for the Democrats while 17% voted for the Republicans. source.\nSo this is kinda a weird narrative",
">\n\nIs it me or do Republicans and conservatives presume that American Jews MUST be right wing?",
">\n\nmost, if not all, organized religions are right-wing. just different flavors of the same authoritarian soup.",
">\n\nThe majority of American Jews are left wing.",
">\n\nYa, but not all American Jews are religious. I'd wager that most aren't religious even.",
">\n\nThat's irrelevant. Judaism is more than just a religion."
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All Georgie wants for his birthday is Sarah Huckabee Sanders popping out of a cake wearing his grammas mumu doing a belly jiggle for him.
Georgie idolizes liars like other people idolize athletes or celebrities.
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"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\"",
">\n\nAmazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money.",
">\n\nProblem?",
">\n\nAmerican Jews are the second-most left-leaning religious opinion group, second only to atheists.",
">\n\nUnfortunately that’s still 10% of Jews who vote GOP because they care more about their money than enabling actual fascists. \nThe Kushners are the perfect example. Jared stood by as Trump said terribly antisemitic shit.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. The jews that I know are entirely single-issue voters. GOP talks a big game about supporting Israel and as long as they do that they will get a percentage of the jewish vote.",
">\n\nBut why do American Jews care about Israel? It’s a tiny geography that can’t possibly fit every American jew.",
">\n\nI'm not Jewish, but I imagine the legacy citizenship option has got a lot to do with it.\nThere's a lot of prominent people stoking anti-Semitic sentiments here in the states. I bet having the option to relocate to a Jewish country relatively hassle-free has gotta be looking really appealing to a bunch of people right now.\nWe had literal flag-flying Nazis camped out on overpasses in the Jewish part of town a couple months ago. It's not hyperbole to say Jewish people are not safe here, and it's fucking disgusting.",
">\n\nThere are various reason people support Israel in the states. However, the most common conservative political reason is religious - evangelical to be specific. They believe when the Jews return to Israel, it will precede the second coming. \nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, is an import US defense partner (we use their weapon designs), and holy land tourism is important in the Bible Belt. Plus people still feel bad about the Holocaust. And Israel’s survival against numerically superior neighbors has an underdog quality Americans love.",
">\n\n\nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, \n\nIsrael is actually the only Democracy in the Middle East. It's also the only country in the Middle East where it's legal to be gay (they have Pride Parades and everything), and they even offer asylum to any LGBTQ+ Arabs who need it, including LGBTQ+ Palestinians, as Palestinians brutally murder homosexuals. In fact there was a recent story of Palestinians tracking down in Israel a gay Palestinian who had been granted asylum and brutally murdering him.",
">\n\nIsrael is not the only democracy in the middle east. They also are not a democracy when you consider the millions of Palestinians under their control that will never be allowed to vote.",
">\n\nJust for context, the majority of American Jews are left leaning (In the 2018 midterms, Jews were again the most Democratic group as designated by religious identity, with 79% voting for the Democrats while 17% voted for the Republicans. source.\nSo this is kinda a weird narrative",
">\n\nIs it me or do Republicans and conservatives presume that American Jews MUST be right wing?",
">\n\nmost, if not all, organized religions are right-wing. just different flavors of the same authoritarian soup.",
">\n\nThe majority of American Jews are left wing.",
">\n\nYa, but not all American Jews are religious. I'd wager that most aren't religious even.",
">\n\nThat's irrelevant. Judaism is more than just a religion.",
">\n\nIn late November, the Daily Beast reported that Andrew Intrater — a cousin of and money manager for sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg — gave more than $56,000 to political committees supporting Santos, who defeated Democrat Robert Zimmerman Nov. 8.\nBackground: \nViktor Vekselberg is a Ukrainian-born oligarch with links to donations to both the Clinton Foundation and the Trump inaugural fund. Vekselberg, who has ties with Putin and has publicly advocated for lifting U.S. Sanctions on Russia, previously served on the board of the sanctioned Russian oil company Rosnef and reportedly holds “signicant interest” in Oleg Deripaska’s company, Rusal. Vekselberg was part of the financial conglomerate Alfa-Access-Renova Consortium alongside fellow oligarchs Mikhail Fridman, German Khan, and Len Blavatnik. He also owns the diversfied holding company Renova Group. Andrew Intrater, the CEO of Columbus Nova, which has been described as “the U.S. investment vehicle for the Renova Group,” donated $250,000 to Trump’s inauguration fund. Prior to this donation, the Trump campaign had criticized Hillary Clinton after it was revealed that the Clinton Foundation had accepted large donations from Renova Group. Vekselberg has come in contact with several individuals linked to the Trump Campaign. He attended the December 2015 RT anniversary gala alongside both Michael Flynn and Putin. He also attended a 2014 fundraising event for the Moscow Jewish Museum, which was attended by both Jared and Ivanka Trump. Vekselberg also has ties to U.S. Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross due to a 2014 partnership with Renova Group involving the Bank of Cyprus; Renova Group is currently the largest shareholder in Bank of Cyprus, while Wilbur Ross served on the bank’s Board for several years before becoming Secretary of Commerce."
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People should start putting 'George Santos' in quotes, because that is probably not his real name
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"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\"",
">\n\nAmazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money.",
">\n\nProblem?",
">\n\nAmerican Jews are the second-most left-leaning religious opinion group, second only to atheists.",
">\n\nUnfortunately that’s still 10% of Jews who vote GOP because they care more about their money than enabling actual fascists. \nThe Kushners are the perfect example. Jared stood by as Trump said terribly antisemitic shit.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. The jews that I know are entirely single-issue voters. GOP talks a big game about supporting Israel and as long as they do that they will get a percentage of the jewish vote.",
">\n\nBut why do American Jews care about Israel? It’s a tiny geography that can’t possibly fit every American jew.",
">\n\nI'm not Jewish, but I imagine the legacy citizenship option has got a lot to do with it.\nThere's a lot of prominent people stoking anti-Semitic sentiments here in the states. I bet having the option to relocate to a Jewish country relatively hassle-free has gotta be looking really appealing to a bunch of people right now.\nWe had literal flag-flying Nazis camped out on overpasses in the Jewish part of town a couple months ago. It's not hyperbole to say Jewish people are not safe here, and it's fucking disgusting.",
">\n\nThere are various reason people support Israel in the states. However, the most common conservative political reason is religious - evangelical to be specific. They believe when the Jews return to Israel, it will precede the second coming. \nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, is an import US defense partner (we use their weapon designs), and holy land tourism is important in the Bible Belt. Plus people still feel bad about the Holocaust. And Israel’s survival against numerically superior neighbors has an underdog quality Americans love.",
">\n\n\nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, \n\nIsrael is actually the only Democracy in the Middle East. It's also the only country in the Middle East where it's legal to be gay (they have Pride Parades and everything), and they even offer asylum to any LGBTQ+ Arabs who need it, including LGBTQ+ Palestinians, as Palestinians brutally murder homosexuals. In fact there was a recent story of Palestinians tracking down in Israel a gay Palestinian who had been granted asylum and brutally murdering him.",
">\n\nIsrael is not the only democracy in the middle east. They also are not a democracy when you consider the millions of Palestinians under their control that will never be allowed to vote.",
">\n\nJust for context, the majority of American Jews are left leaning (In the 2018 midterms, Jews were again the most Democratic group as designated by religious identity, with 79% voting for the Democrats while 17% voted for the Republicans. source.\nSo this is kinda a weird narrative",
">\n\nIs it me or do Republicans and conservatives presume that American Jews MUST be right wing?",
">\n\nmost, if not all, organized religions are right-wing. just different flavors of the same authoritarian soup.",
">\n\nThe majority of American Jews are left wing.",
">\n\nYa, but not all American Jews are religious. I'd wager that most aren't religious even.",
">\n\nThat's irrelevant. Judaism is more than just a religion.",
">\n\nIn late November, the Daily Beast reported that Andrew Intrater — a cousin of and money manager for sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg — gave more than $56,000 to political committees supporting Santos, who defeated Democrat Robert Zimmerman Nov. 8.\nBackground: \nViktor Vekselberg is a Ukrainian-born oligarch with links to donations to both the Clinton Foundation and the Trump inaugural fund. Vekselberg, who has ties with Putin and has publicly advocated for lifting U.S. Sanctions on Russia, previously served on the board of the sanctioned Russian oil company Rosnef and reportedly holds “signicant interest” in Oleg Deripaska’s company, Rusal. Vekselberg was part of the financial conglomerate Alfa-Access-Renova Consortium alongside fellow oligarchs Mikhail Fridman, German Khan, and Len Blavatnik. He also owns the diversfied holding company Renova Group. Andrew Intrater, the CEO of Columbus Nova, which has been described as “the U.S. investment vehicle for the Renova Group,” donated $250,000 to Trump’s inauguration fund. Prior to this donation, the Trump campaign had criticized Hillary Clinton after it was revealed that the Clinton Foundation had accepted large donations from Renova Group. Vekselberg has come in contact with several individuals linked to the Trump Campaign. He attended the December 2015 RT anniversary gala alongside both Michael Flynn and Putin. He also attended a 2014 fundraising event for the Moscow Jewish Museum, which was attended by both Jared and Ivanka Trump. Vekselberg also has ties to U.S. Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross due to a 2014 partnership with Renova Group involving the Bank of Cyprus; Renova Group is currently the largest shareholder in Bank of Cyprus, while Wilbur Ross served on the bank’s Board for several years before becoming Secretary of Commerce.",
">\n\nAll Georgie wants for his birthday is Sarah Huckabee Sanders popping out of a cake wearing his grammas mumu doing a belly jiggle for him. \nGeorgie idolizes liars like other people idolize athletes or celebrities."
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"Santos"
Jew-ish.
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[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\"",
">\n\nAmazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money.",
">\n\nProblem?",
">\n\nAmerican Jews are the second-most left-leaning religious opinion group, second only to atheists.",
">\n\nUnfortunately that’s still 10% of Jews who vote GOP because they care more about their money than enabling actual fascists. \nThe Kushners are the perfect example. Jared stood by as Trump said terribly antisemitic shit.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. The jews that I know are entirely single-issue voters. GOP talks a big game about supporting Israel and as long as they do that they will get a percentage of the jewish vote.",
">\n\nBut why do American Jews care about Israel? It’s a tiny geography that can’t possibly fit every American jew.",
">\n\nI'm not Jewish, but I imagine the legacy citizenship option has got a lot to do with it.\nThere's a lot of prominent people stoking anti-Semitic sentiments here in the states. I bet having the option to relocate to a Jewish country relatively hassle-free has gotta be looking really appealing to a bunch of people right now.\nWe had literal flag-flying Nazis camped out on overpasses in the Jewish part of town a couple months ago. It's not hyperbole to say Jewish people are not safe here, and it's fucking disgusting.",
">\n\nThere are various reason people support Israel in the states. However, the most common conservative political reason is religious - evangelical to be specific. They believe when the Jews return to Israel, it will precede the second coming. \nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, is an import US defense partner (we use their weapon designs), and holy land tourism is important in the Bible Belt. Plus people still feel bad about the Holocaust. And Israel’s survival against numerically superior neighbors has an underdog quality Americans love.",
">\n\n\nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, \n\nIsrael is actually the only Democracy in the Middle East. It's also the only country in the Middle East where it's legal to be gay (they have Pride Parades and everything), and they even offer asylum to any LGBTQ+ Arabs who need it, including LGBTQ+ Palestinians, as Palestinians brutally murder homosexuals. In fact there was a recent story of Palestinians tracking down in Israel a gay Palestinian who had been granted asylum and brutally murdering him.",
">\n\nIsrael is not the only democracy in the middle east. They also are not a democracy when you consider the millions of Palestinians under their control that will never be allowed to vote.",
">\n\nJust for context, the majority of American Jews are left leaning (In the 2018 midterms, Jews were again the most Democratic group as designated by religious identity, with 79% voting for the Democrats while 17% voted for the Republicans. source.\nSo this is kinda a weird narrative",
">\n\nIs it me or do Republicans and conservatives presume that American Jews MUST be right wing?",
">\n\nmost, if not all, organized religions are right-wing. just different flavors of the same authoritarian soup.",
">\n\nThe majority of American Jews are left wing.",
">\n\nYa, but not all American Jews are religious. I'd wager that most aren't religious even.",
">\n\nThat's irrelevant. Judaism is more than just a religion.",
">\n\nIn late November, the Daily Beast reported that Andrew Intrater — a cousin of and money manager for sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg — gave more than $56,000 to political committees supporting Santos, who defeated Democrat Robert Zimmerman Nov. 8.\nBackground: \nViktor Vekselberg is a Ukrainian-born oligarch with links to donations to both the Clinton Foundation and the Trump inaugural fund. Vekselberg, who has ties with Putin and has publicly advocated for lifting U.S. Sanctions on Russia, previously served on the board of the sanctioned Russian oil company Rosnef and reportedly holds “signicant interest” in Oleg Deripaska’s company, Rusal. Vekselberg was part of the financial conglomerate Alfa-Access-Renova Consortium alongside fellow oligarchs Mikhail Fridman, German Khan, and Len Blavatnik. He also owns the diversfied holding company Renova Group. Andrew Intrater, the CEO of Columbus Nova, which has been described as “the U.S. investment vehicle for the Renova Group,” donated $250,000 to Trump’s inauguration fund. Prior to this donation, the Trump campaign had criticized Hillary Clinton after it was revealed that the Clinton Foundation had accepted large donations from Renova Group. Vekselberg has come in contact with several individuals linked to the Trump Campaign. He attended the December 2015 RT anniversary gala alongside both Michael Flynn and Putin. He also attended a 2014 fundraising event for the Moscow Jewish Museum, which was attended by both Jared and Ivanka Trump. Vekselberg also has ties to U.S. Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross due to a 2014 partnership with Renova Group involving the Bank of Cyprus; Renova Group is currently the largest shareholder in Bank of Cyprus, while Wilbur Ross served on the bank’s Board for several years before becoming Secretary of Commerce.",
">\n\nAll Georgie wants for his birthday is Sarah Huckabee Sanders popping out of a cake wearing his grammas mumu doing a belly jiggle for him. \nGeorgie idolizes liars like other people idolize athletes or celebrities.",
">\n\nPeople should start putting 'George Santos' in quotes, because that is probably not his real name"
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What even drives a human to public office in such a way? I want whatever endorphins this guy is getting, Stat!
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[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\"",
">\n\nAmazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money.",
">\n\nProblem?",
">\n\nAmerican Jews are the second-most left-leaning religious opinion group, second only to atheists.",
">\n\nUnfortunately that’s still 10% of Jews who vote GOP because they care more about their money than enabling actual fascists. \nThe Kushners are the perfect example. Jared stood by as Trump said terribly antisemitic shit.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. The jews that I know are entirely single-issue voters. GOP talks a big game about supporting Israel and as long as they do that they will get a percentage of the jewish vote.",
">\n\nBut why do American Jews care about Israel? It’s a tiny geography that can’t possibly fit every American jew.",
">\n\nI'm not Jewish, but I imagine the legacy citizenship option has got a lot to do with it.\nThere's a lot of prominent people stoking anti-Semitic sentiments here in the states. I bet having the option to relocate to a Jewish country relatively hassle-free has gotta be looking really appealing to a bunch of people right now.\nWe had literal flag-flying Nazis camped out on overpasses in the Jewish part of town a couple months ago. It's not hyperbole to say Jewish people are not safe here, and it's fucking disgusting.",
">\n\nThere are various reason people support Israel in the states. However, the most common conservative political reason is religious - evangelical to be specific. They believe when the Jews return to Israel, it will precede the second coming. \nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, is an import US defense partner (we use their weapon designs), and holy land tourism is important in the Bible Belt. Plus people still feel bad about the Holocaust. And Israel’s survival against numerically superior neighbors has an underdog quality Americans love.",
">\n\n\nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, \n\nIsrael is actually the only Democracy in the Middle East. It's also the only country in the Middle East where it's legal to be gay (they have Pride Parades and everything), and they even offer asylum to any LGBTQ+ Arabs who need it, including LGBTQ+ Palestinians, as Palestinians brutally murder homosexuals. In fact there was a recent story of Palestinians tracking down in Israel a gay Palestinian who had been granted asylum and brutally murdering him.",
">\n\nIsrael is not the only democracy in the middle east. They also are not a democracy when you consider the millions of Palestinians under their control that will never be allowed to vote.",
">\n\nJust for context, the majority of American Jews are left leaning (In the 2018 midterms, Jews were again the most Democratic group as designated by religious identity, with 79% voting for the Democrats while 17% voted for the Republicans. source.\nSo this is kinda a weird narrative",
">\n\nIs it me or do Republicans and conservatives presume that American Jews MUST be right wing?",
">\n\nmost, if not all, organized religions are right-wing. just different flavors of the same authoritarian soup.",
">\n\nThe majority of American Jews are left wing.",
">\n\nYa, but not all American Jews are religious. I'd wager that most aren't religious even.",
">\n\nThat's irrelevant. Judaism is more than just a religion.",
">\n\nIn late November, the Daily Beast reported that Andrew Intrater — a cousin of and money manager for sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg — gave more than $56,000 to political committees supporting Santos, who defeated Democrat Robert Zimmerman Nov. 8.\nBackground: \nViktor Vekselberg is a Ukrainian-born oligarch with links to donations to both the Clinton Foundation and the Trump inaugural fund. Vekselberg, who has ties with Putin and has publicly advocated for lifting U.S. Sanctions on Russia, previously served on the board of the sanctioned Russian oil company Rosnef and reportedly holds “signicant interest” in Oleg Deripaska’s company, Rusal. Vekselberg was part of the financial conglomerate Alfa-Access-Renova Consortium alongside fellow oligarchs Mikhail Fridman, German Khan, and Len Blavatnik. He also owns the diversfied holding company Renova Group. Andrew Intrater, the CEO of Columbus Nova, which has been described as “the U.S. investment vehicle for the Renova Group,” donated $250,000 to Trump’s inauguration fund. Prior to this donation, the Trump campaign had criticized Hillary Clinton after it was revealed that the Clinton Foundation had accepted large donations from Renova Group. Vekselberg has come in contact with several individuals linked to the Trump Campaign. He attended the December 2015 RT anniversary gala alongside both Michael Flynn and Putin. He also attended a 2014 fundraising event for the Moscow Jewish Museum, which was attended by both Jared and Ivanka Trump. Vekselberg also has ties to U.S. Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross due to a 2014 partnership with Renova Group involving the Bank of Cyprus; Renova Group is currently the largest shareholder in Bank of Cyprus, while Wilbur Ross served on the bank’s Board for several years before becoming Secretary of Commerce.",
">\n\nAll Georgie wants for his birthday is Sarah Huckabee Sanders popping out of a cake wearing his grammas mumu doing a belly jiggle for him. \nGeorgie idolizes liars like other people idolize athletes or celebrities.",
">\n\nPeople should start putting 'George Santos' in quotes, because that is probably not his real name",
">\n\n\"Santos\"\nJew-ish."
] |
>
"In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women."
He's trying for step 2.
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[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\"",
">\n\nAmazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money.",
">\n\nProblem?",
">\n\nAmerican Jews are the second-most left-leaning religious opinion group, second only to atheists.",
">\n\nUnfortunately that’s still 10% of Jews who vote GOP because they care more about their money than enabling actual fascists. \nThe Kushners are the perfect example. Jared stood by as Trump said terribly antisemitic shit.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. The jews that I know are entirely single-issue voters. GOP talks a big game about supporting Israel and as long as they do that they will get a percentage of the jewish vote.",
">\n\nBut why do American Jews care about Israel? It’s a tiny geography that can’t possibly fit every American jew.",
">\n\nI'm not Jewish, but I imagine the legacy citizenship option has got a lot to do with it.\nThere's a lot of prominent people stoking anti-Semitic sentiments here in the states. I bet having the option to relocate to a Jewish country relatively hassle-free has gotta be looking really appealing to a bunch of people right now.\nWe had literal flag-flying Nazis camped out on overpasses in the Jewish part of town a couple months ago. It's not hyperbole to say Jewish people are not safe here, and it's fucking disgusting.",
">\n\nThere are various reason people support Israel in the states. However, the most common conservative political reason is religious - evangelical to be specific. They believe when the Jews return to Israel, it will precede the second coming. \nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, is an import US defense partner (we use their weapon designs), and holy land tourism is important in the Bible Belt. Plus people still feel bad about the Holocaust. And Israel’s survival against numerically superior neighbors has an underdog quality Americans love.",
">\n\n\nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, \n\nIsrael is actually the only Democracy in the Middle East. It's also the only country in the Middle East where it's legal to be gay (they have Pride Parades and everything), and they even offer asylum to any LGBTQ+ Arabs who need it, including LGBTQ+ Palestinians, as Palestinians brutally murder homosexuals. In fact there was a recent story of Palestinians tracking down in Israel a gay Palestinian who had been granted asylum and brutally murdering him.",
">\n\nIsrael is not the only democracy in the middle east. They also are not a democracy when you consider the millions of Palestinians under their control that will never be allowed to vote.",
">\n\nJust for context, the majority of American Jews are left leaning (In the 2018 midterms, Jews were again the most Democratic group as designated by religious identity, with 79% voting for the Democrats while 17% voted for the Republicans. source.\nSo this is kinda a weird narrative",
">\n\nIs it me or do Republicans and conservatives presume that American Jews MUST be right wing?",
">\n\nmost, if not all, organized religions are right-wing. just different flavors of the same authoritarian soup.",
">\n\nThe majority of American Jews are left wing.",
">\n\nYa, but not all American Jews are religious. I'd wager that most aren't religious even.",
">\n\nThat's irrelevant. Judaism is more than just a religion.",
">\n\nIn late November, the Daily Beast reported that Andrew Intrater — a cousin of and money manager for sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg — gave more than $56,000 to political committees supporting Santos, who defeated Democrat Robert Zimmerman Nov. 8.\nBackground: \nViktor Vekselberg is a Ukrainian-born oligarch with links to donations to both the Clinton Foundation and the Trump inaugural fund. Vekselberg, who has ties with Putin and has publicly advocated for lifting U.S. Sanctions on Russia, previously served on the board of the sanctioned Russian oil company Rosnef and reportedly holds “signicant interest” in Oleg Deripaska’s company, Rusal. Vekselberg was part of the financial conglomerate Alfa-Access-Renova Consortium alongside fellow oligarchs Mikhail Fridman, German Khan, and Len Blavatnik. He also owns the diversfied holding company Renova Group. Andrew Intrater, the CEO of Columbus Nova, which has been described as “the U.S. investment vehicle for the Renova Group,” donated $250,000 to Trump’s inauguration fund. Prior to this donation, the Trump campaign had criticized Hillary Clinton after it was revealed that the Clinton Foundation had accepted large donations from Renova Group. Vekselberg has come in contact with several individuals linked to the Trump Campaign. He attended the December 2015 RT anniversary gala alongside both Michael Flynn and Putin. He also attended a 2014 fundraising event for the Moscow Jewish Museum, which was attended by both Jared and Ivanka Trump. Vekselberg also has ties to U.S. Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross due to a 2014 partnership with Renova Group involving the Bank of Cyprus; Renova Group is currently the largest shareholder in Bank of Cyprus, while Wilbur Ross served on the bank’s Board for several years before becoming Secretary of Commerce.",
">\n\nAll Georgie wants for his birthday is Sarah Huckabee Sanders popping out of a cake wearing his grammas mumu doing a belly jiggle for him. \nGeorgie idolizes liars like other people idolize athletes or celebrities.",
">\n\nPeople should start putting 'George Santos' in quotes, because that is probably not his real name",
">\n\n\"Santos\"\nJew-ish.",
">\n\nWhat even drives a human to public office in such a way? I want whatever endorphins this guy is getting, Stat!"
] |
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[
"The sheer number of lies this guy told that somehow were not all over the news and social media until after the election is absolutely puzzling to me. Everything is under a microscope all the time and yet this slips through?",
">\n\nI have no idea how all this crap was found out AFTER he was elected.",
">\n\nNY Times did an investigation.",
">\n\n(☝˘▾˘)☝ \n[12/19/2022][NY] New York Republican George Santos’s Résumé Called Into Question - The New York Times\n\nEdit: I stand corrected. This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post",
">\n\nThis is well after the election. From what I've read, they NY Times was tipped off before the election, but didn't pursue it or give it the same amount of attn as it's getting now. Now it's everywhere",
">\n\nGot a source for that? Or just speculation?\n\nEdit: This just popped up in my feed:\n[12/29/2022][NY] A tiny paper broke the George Santos scandal, but no one paid attention - The Washington Post\nThat paper broke their story 11/06, 3 days before Santos won District 3 on 11/09. The NY Times went to press this month, on 12/19, 43 days later with a much more in-depth and well-researched piece of investigative journalism.\nYeah, I'm really going to need to see a credible source for your contention. It is much, much more likely that the NYT learned of Santos via the North Shore Leader financial disclosure story, dove in and investigated it further and then came out with their own piece of investigative journalism, than it is likely that they were \"tipped off\", ignored it and got scooped by the North Shore Leader.",
">\n\nI read it on another thread about Santos, but it makes sense because this isn't the first time this guy has ran for public office in NY so he would have been the attention of at least some local journalists for awhile.",
">\n\nAren't most Jews in America left-leaning?",
">\n\nYup. Jews are the most solidly blue voting block in the nation after Black women.\nBut Republican Jews definitely exist, just like Republican trans people exist.",
">\n\nI feel as if a lot of very Orthodox Jews lean right because of the rights support for Israel - Although the right only support Israel for their own ends.",
">\n\nNah we definitely lean left my guy not right.",
">\n\nPoor wording in the article. Right-wing Jews are far from commonplace in the US (American Jews have historically been some of the most reliable fighters for civil & labor rights), however right-wingers in Israel are a huge issue thanks to AIPAC and the DMFI sabotaging Democratic primaries in favor of establishment candidates and supporting Republicans in generals (including election-deniers).\nIn short: Santos claiming he's Jewish wasn't about courting NY Jews, but instead about gaining foreign support from the Israeli far-right.",
">\n\nExcept Santos won a very very Jewish district on long Island. I'm Jewish and sadly his constituent. Yes, most of the Jews I know here consider themselves progressive and disagree with repubs on almost everything. Except for lowering taxes. The dems didn't reverse the SALT deduction cap Trump punished NY and CA with and so now everyone here is just like \"OK then fuck you we will lower our taxes with these fascists I guess...\"",
">\n\nAmazing that some people will straightup vote for fascists purely because they hope they'll save a litle money.",
">\n\nProblem?",
">\n\nAmerican Jews are the second-most left-leaning religious opinion group, second only to atheists.",
">\n\nUnfortunately that’s still 10% of Jews who vote GOP because they care more about their money than enabling actual fascists. \nThe Kushners are the perfect example. Jared stood by as Trump said terribly antisemitic shit.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. The jews that I know are entirely single-issue voters. GOP talks a big game about supporting Israel and as long as they do that they will get a percentage of the jewish vote.",
">\n\nBut why do American Jews care about Israel? It’s a tiny geography that can’t possibly fit every American jew.",
">\n\nI'm not Jewish, but I imagine the legacy citizenship option has got a lot to do with it.\nThere's a lot of prominent people stoking anti-Semitic sentiments here in the states. I bet having the option to relocate to a Jewish country relatively hassle-free has gotta be looking really appealing to a bunch of people right now.\nWe had literal flag-flying Nazis camped out on overpasses in the Jewish part of town a couple months ago. It's not hyperbole to say Jewish people are not safe here, and it's fucking disgusting.",
">\n\nThere are various reason people support Israel in the states. However, the most common conservative political reason is religious - evangelical to be specific. They believe when the Jews return to Israel, it will precede the second coming. \nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, is an import US defense partner (we use their weapon designs), and holy land tourism is important in the Bible Belt. Plus people still feel bad about the Holocaust. And Israel’s survival against numerically superior neighbors has an underdog quality Americans love.",
">\n\n\nThere is also the bit where Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East, \n\nIsrael is actually the only Democracy in the Middle East. It's also the only country in the Middle East where it's legal to be gay (they have Pride Parades and everything), and they even offer asylum to any LGBTQ+ Arabs who need it, including LGBTQ+ Palestinians, as Palestinians brutally murder homosexuals. In fact there was a recent story of Palestinians tracking down in Israel a gay Palestinian who had been granted asylum and brutally murdering him.",
">\n\nIsrael is not the only democracy in the middle east. They also are not a democracy when you consider the millions of Palestinians under their control that will never be allowed to vote.",
">\n\nJust for context, the majority of American Jews are left leaning (In the 2018 midterms, Jews were again the most Democratic group as designated by religious identity, with 79% voting for the Democrats while 17% voted for the Republicans. source.\nSo this is kinda a weird narrative",
">\n\nIs it me or do Republicans and conservatives presume that American Jews MUST be right wing?",
">\n\nmost, if not all, organized religions are right-wing. just different flavors of the same authoritarian soup.",
">\n\nThe majority of American Jews are left wing.",
">\n\nYa, but not all American Jews are religious. I'd wager that most aren't religious even.",
">\n\nThat's irrelevant. Judaism is more than just a religion.",
">\n\nIn late November, the Daily Beast reported that Andrew Intrater — a cousin of and money manager for sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg — gave more than $56,000 to political committees supporting Santos, who defeated Democrat Robert Zimmerman Nov. 8.\nBackground: \nViktor Vekselberg is a Ukrainian-born oligarch with links to donations to both the Clinton Foundation and the Trump inaugural fund. Vekselberg, who has ties with Putin and has publicly advocated for lifting U.S. Sanctions on Russia, previously served on the board of the sanctioned Russian oil company Rosnef and reportedly holds “signicant interest” in Oleg Deripaska’s company, Rusal. Vekselberg was part of the financial conglomerate Alfa-Access-Renova Consortium alongside fellow oligarchs Mikhail Fridman, German Khan, and Len Blavatnik. He also owns the diversfied holding company Renova Group. Andrew Intrater, the CEO of Columbus Nova, which has been described as “the U.S. investment vehicle for the Renova Group,” donated $250,000 to Trump’s inauguration fund. Prior to this donation, the Trump campaign had criticized Hillary Clinton after it was revealed that the Clinton Foundation had accepted large donations from Renova Group. Vekselberg has come in contact with several individuals linked to the Trump Campaign. He attended the December 2015 RT anniversary gala alongside both Michael Flynn and Putin. He also attended a 2014 fundraising event for the Moscow Jewish Museum, which was attended by both Jared and Ivanka Trump. Vekselberg also has ties to U.S. Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross due to a 2014 partnership with Renova Group involving the Bank of Cyprus; Renova Group is currently the largest shareholder in Bank of Cyprus, while Wilbur Ross served on the bank’s Board for several years before becoming Secretary of Commerce.",
">\n\nAll Georgie wants for his birthday is Sarah Huckabee Sanders popping out of a cake wearing his grammas mumu doing a belly jiggle for him. \nGeorgie idolizes liars like other people idolize athletes or celebrities.",
">\n\nPeople should start putting 'George Santos' in quotes, because that is probably not his real name",
">\n\n\"Santos\"\nJew-ish.",
">\n\nWhat even drives a human to public office in such a way? I want whatever endorphins this guy is getting, Stat!",
">\n\n\"In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women.\" \nHe's trying for step 2."
] |
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