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He probably came out of a test tube. He must be making his parents so proud by now
|
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"He's three raccoons in a trench coat at this point.",
">\n\nI would definitely rather have the 3 raccoons!",
">\n\nWho is George Santos?",
">\n\nIs he really George Santos?",
">\n\nYeah, at this point that is my question as well. Is his name really George Santos?",
">\n\n\"Santos angrily walked out of an interview with The Atlantic Monthly's Anne Applebaum Tuesday, after the senior reporter questioned Santos's claim to have been 'in Delta Force' back in the early 1980s, and that 'he answered only to [President Ronald] Reagan'. When Applebaum noted Santos was born in 1988 and asked to see the nun-chucks Santos claims were a gift from the Hong Kong ambassador for saving his daughter's life, Santos grew sullen and icily told Applebaum to 'always bet on black'.\"\n\"When Applebaum asked why he was quoting [1992 Wesley Snipes action film] Passenger 57, Santos angrily told her that 'Black Diamond' was his Special Forces code-name before stomping away.\"",
">\n\nToo bad this guy's not a natural born citizen...he could be President one day with lies like that!",
">\n\nAs if he can’t just say that he was born wherever he wants. Republicans aren't going to care if it's a lie.",
">\n\nNo shit… GOP’s finest",
">\n\nI think we need at least 20 more threads about this per hour.",
">\n\n\"george santos thread starterpack\" is about to show up in r/all",
">\n\nHoly shit. He even dragged Anthony Scaramucci into his fictional life.",
">\n\nI miss the mooch. Simpler times.",
">\n\nWith the Mooch you knew what you were getting. Zero fake news there.",
">\n\nOh sure, like a republiQan would ever have something to hide",
">\n\nAt a normal job, if your boss found out you lie about pretty much everything on your resume you would be fired. Why isn't this the case for this position?",
">\n\n\nAt a normal job, if your boss found out you lie about pretty much everything on your resume you would be fired. Why isn't this the case for this position?\n\nIt's not a normal job. Who would fire him? Who is his employer?\n\nIf it's the Republican Party, the party wants to fill that office with someone who will vote along party lines and they don't care if that's a tree stump named Fibber McDuplicitous. But it's not the party.\nIf it's the voters of his district, the Constitution provides no mechanism for voters to recall him. So it's not the voters.\nIt's the US House of Representatives itself, and by their rules they can't collectively get rid of a fellow representative unless 2/3 of the representatives vote to expel him. Good luck with that. Out of all the awful representatives over all the years of the United States, only five have been expelled -- and those were for treason or bribery.",
">\n\nSo basically any person can lie and cheat their way into the position and there is no mechanism in place the efficiently expell him if the people of his district wanted to. As long as you have the support of your party you are good to go. \nI still wish there was some sort of background check instead of relying on investigative journalism to hold someone accountable. I mean this guy so far has lied about pretty much everything. I wouldn't be surprised if we find out he lied about he real name",
">\n\n\nAs long as you have the support of your party you are good to go.\n\nAs long as you have the support of 145 (435/3) other members of the House, regardless of party membership, it is impossible to remove you from office.\n\nI still wish there was some sort of background check instead of relying on investigative journalism to hold someone accountable.\n\nIndependent journalism remains the best mechanism. Government investigating government isn't going to be as reliable.\nI don't know how the media and the Democrats missed this guy unless they just figured he was insignificant. (The New York Times did break the news on him, but only after the election.)",
">\n\nI read the other day that his opponent tried to raise questions about his story. Media outlets wouldn't run the story, and Dems didn't do anything because they didn't think it was a competitive race.\nThe former is a good argument against billionaires owning all our media. The latter is unfortunately an all too common mistake the Dems make (see Boebert, Lauren).",
">\n\nYeah, I do wonder why candidate claims (especially when made by new candidates) aren't sent by opposition parties to private investigators as a matter of form.",
">\n\nThis man is the personification of the gift that keeps on giving.",
">\n\nThe grift that keeps on grifting.",
">\n\nAt this point, it's probably easier to list the claims he made about himself that are actually true.",
">\n\nNot really. There are none",
">\n\nI'm starting to think this guy stretches the truth here and there.",
">\n\nI'm waiting for it to come out that George Santos is really 3 kids in a trench coat",
">\n\nHere lies George Santos.\nHis career going up in flames much like his pants.\nBut wait, he's not a regular person. No no, he is a GOP congressman... Not only will the lies probably not hurt him, there's a nonzero chance he might even be the next speaker of the house after McCarthy finishes flaming out.\nSigh",
">\n\nGeorge Pantos",
">\n\nThe guy lies pathologically . Bullshitting himself and genuinely believing the bullshit . Perfect republican.",
">\n\nThe Cons have their own Anna Sorokin. Lol!!! Was just a matter of time.",
">\n\nI can’t wait to learn santos is actually Russian citizen",
">\n\nAt this point I would not be surprised to hear that he's actually from Russia...",
">\n\nhis opponent during the campaign should be sued for dereliction of duties \nwhat the fuck did he do the whole time ?",
">\n\nHey, look guys! He lied about everything!\nIn other words, he's a Republican. The only difference between him and Walker is that he's white.",
">\n\nIt seems he’s not well.",
">\n\nI'm starting to think this guy is a learning robot that only had one hour to study.",
">\n\nHe has no true claims",
">\n\n“Embellishments” that’s all. Lol 😂",
">\n\nThe GQP elected a compulsive liar? I’m shocked. Shocked! Well, not that shocked.",
">\n\nNext up, he is actually a she! Plot twist",
">\n\nI have a funny feeling with all the lies unraveling he's about to be defenestrated in more ways than one."
] |
>
No, not this piece of shit….
|
[
"He's three raccoons in a trench coat at this point.",
">\n\nI would definitely rather have the 3 raccoons!",
">\n\nWho is George Santos?",
">\n\nIs he really George Santos?",
">\n\nYeah, at this point that is my question as well. Is his name really George Santos?",
">\n\n\"Santos angrily walked out of an interview with The Atlantic Monthly's Anne Applebaum Tuesday, after the senior reporter questioned Santos's claim to have been 'in Delta Force' back in the early 1980s, and that 'he answered only to [President Ronald] Reagan'. When Applebaum noted Santos was born in 1988 and asked to see the nun-chucks Santos claims were a gift from the Hong Kong ambassador for saving his daughter's life, Santos grew sullen and icily told Applebaum to 'always bet on black'.\"\n\"When Applebaum asked why he was quoting [1992 Wesley Snipes action film] Passenger 57, Santos angrily told her that 'Black Diamond' was his Special Forces code-name before stomping away.\"",
">\n\nToo bad this guy's not a natural born citizen...he could be President one day with lies like that!",
">\n\nAs if he can’t just say that he was born wherever he wants. Republicans aren't going to care if it's a lie.",
">\n\nNo shit… GOP’s finest",
">\n\nI think we need at least 20 more threads about this per hour.",
">\n\n\"george santos thread starterpack\" is about to show up in r/all",
">\n\nHoly shit. He even dragged Anthony Scaramucci into his fictional life.",
">\n\nI miss the mooch. Simpler times.",
">\n\nWith the Mooch you knew what you were getting. Zero fake news there.",
">\n\nOh sure, like a republiQan would ever have something to hide",
">\n\nAt a normal job, if your boss found out you lie about pretty much everything on your resume you would be fired. Why isn't this the case for this position?",
">\n\n\nAt a normal job, if your boss found out you lie about pretty much everything on your resume you would be fired. Why isn't this the case for this position?\n\nIt's not a normal job. Who would fire him? Who is his employer?\n\nIf it's the Republican Party, the party wants to fill that office with someone who will vote along party lines and they don't care if that's a tree stump named Fibber McDuplicitous. But it's not the party.\nIf it's the voters of his district, the Constitution provides no mechanism for voters to recall him. So it's not the voters.\nIt's the US House of Representatives itself, and by their rules they can't collectively get rid of a fellow representative unless 2/3 of the representatives vote to expel him. Good luck with that. Out of all the awful representatives over all the years of the United States, only five have been expelled -- and those were for treason or bribery.",
">\n\nSo basically any person can lie and cheat their way into the position and there is no mechanism in place the efficiently expell him if the people of his district wanted to. As long as you have the support of your party you are good to go. \nI still wish there was some sort of background check instead of relying on investigative journalism to hold someone accountable. I mean this guy so far has lied about pretty much everything. I wouldn't be surprised if we find out he lied about he real name",
">\n\n\nAs long as you have the support of your party you are good to go.\n\nAs long as you have the support of 145 (435/3) other members of the House, regardless of party membership, it is impossible to remove you from office.\n\nI still wish there was some sort of background check instead of relying on investigative journalism to hold someone accountable.\n\nIndependent journalism remains the best mechanism. Government investigating government isn't going to be as reliable.\nI don't know how the media and the Democrats missed this guy unless they just figured he was insignificant. (The New York Times did break the news on him, but only after the election.)",
">\n\nI read the other day that his opponent tried to raise questions about his story. Media outlets wouldn't run the story, and Dems didn't do anything because they didn't think it was a competitive race.\nThe former is a good argument against billionaires owning all our media. The latter is unfortunately an all too common mistake the Dems make (see Boebert, Lauren).",
">\n\nYeah, I do wonder why candidate claims (especially when made by new candidates) aren't sent by opposition parties to private investigators as a matter of form.",
">\n\nThis man is the personification of the gift that keeps on giving.",
">\n\nThe grift that keeps on grifting.",
">\n\nAt this point, it's probably easier to list the claims he made about himself that are actually true.",
">\n\nNot really. There are none",
">\n\nI'm starting to think this guy stretches the truth here and there.",
">\n\nI'm waiting for it to come out that George Santos is really 3 kids in a trench coat",
">\n\nHere lies George Santos.\nHis career going up in flames much like his pants.\nBut wait, he's not a regular person. No no, he is a GOP congressman... Not only will the lies probably not hurt him, there's a nonzero chance he might even be the next speaker of the house after McCarthy finishes flaming out.\nSigh",
">\n\nGeorge Pantos",
">\n\nThe guy lies pathologically . Bullshitting himself and genuinely believing the bullshit . Perfect republican.",
">\n\nThe Cons have their own Anna Sorokin. Lol!!! Was just a matter of time.",
">\n\nI can’t wait to learn santos is actually Russian citizen",
">\n\nAt this point I would not be surprised to hear that he's actually from Russia...",
">\n\nhis opponent during the campaign should be sued for dereliction of duties \nwhat the fuck did he do the whole time ?",
">\n\nHey, look guys! He lied about everything!\nIn other words, he's a Republican. The only difference between him and Walker is that he's white.",
">\n\nIt seems he’s not well.",
">\n\nI'm starting to think this guy is a learning robot that only had one hour to study.",
">\n\nHe has no true claims",
">\n\n“Embellishments” that’s all. Lol 😂",
">\n\nThe GQP elected a compulsive liar? I’m shocked. Shocked! Well, not that shocked.",
">\n\nNext up, he is actually a she! Plot twist",
">\n\nI have a funny feeling with all the lies unraveling he's about to be defenestrated in more ways than one.",
">\n\nHe probably came out of a test tube. He must be making his parents so proud by now"
] |
>
What a loser! Who is he again? 😂
|
[
"He's three raccoons in a trench coat at this point.",
">\n\nI would definitely rather have the 3 raccoons!",
">\n\nWho is George Santos?",
">\n\nIs he really George Santos?",
">\n\nYeah, at this point that is my question as well. Is his name really George Santos?",
">\n\n\"Santos angrily walked out of an interview with The Atlantic Monthly's Anne Applebaum Tuesday, after the senior reporter questioned Santos's claim to have been 'in Delta Force' back in the early 1980s, and that 'he answered only to [President Ronald] Reagan'. When Applebaum noted Santos was born in 1988 and asked to see the nun-chucks Santos claims were a gift from the Hong Kong ambassador for saving his daughter's life, Santos grew sullen and icily told Applebaum to 'always bet on black'.\"\n\"When Applebaum asked why he was quoting [1992 Wesley Snipes action film] Passenger 57, Santos angrily told her that 'Black Diamond' was his Special Forces code-name before stomping away.\"",
">\n\nToo bad this guy's not a natural born citizen...he could be President one day with lies like that!",
">\n\nAs if he can’t just say that he was born wherever he wants. Republicans aren't going to care if it's a lie.",
">\n\nNo shit… GOP’s finest",
">\n\nI think we need at least 20 more threads about this per hour.",
">\n\n\"george santos thread starterpack\" is about to show up in r/all",
">\n\nHoly shit. He even dragged Anthony Scaramucci into his fictional life.",
">\n\nI miss the mooch. Simpler times.",
">\n\nWith the Mooch you knew what you were getting. Zero fake news there.",
">\n\nOh sure, like a republiQan would ever have something to hide",
">\n\nAt a normal job, if your boss found out you lie about pretty much everything on your resume you would be fired. Why isn't this the case for this position?",
">\n\n\nAt a normal job, if your boss found out you lie about pretty much everything on your resume you would be fired. Why isn't this the case for this position?\n\nIt's not a normal job. Who would fire him? Who is his employer?\n\nIf it's the Republican Party, the party wants to fill that office with someone who will vote along party lines and they don't care if that's a tree stump named Fibber McDuplicitous. But it's not the party.\nIf it's the voters of his district, the Constitution provides no mechanism for voters to recall him. So it's not the voters.\nIt's the US House of Representatives itself, and by their rules they can't collectively get rid of a fellow representative unless 2/3 of the representatives vote to expel him. Good luck with that. Out of all the awful representatives over all the years of the United States, only five have been expelled -- and those were for treason or bribery.",
">\n\nSo basically any person can lie and cheat their way into the position and there is no mechanism in place the efficiently expell him if the people of his district wanted to. As long as you have the support of your party you are good to go. \nI still wish there was some sort of background check instead of relying on investigative journalism to hold someone accountable. I mean this guy so far has lied about pretty much everything. I wouldn't be surprised if we find out he lied about he real name",
">\n\n\nAs long as you have the support of your party you are good to go.\n\nAs long as you have the support of 145 (435/3) other members of the House, regardless of party membership, it is impossible to remove you from office.\n\nI still wish there was some sort of background check instead of relying on investigative journalism to hold someone accountable.\n\nIndependent journalism remains the best mechanism. Government investigating government isn't going to be as reliable.\nI don't know how the media and the Democrats missed this guy unless they just figured he was insignificant. (The New York Times did break the news on him, but only after the election.)",
">\n\nI read the other day that his opponent tried to raise questions about his story. Media outlets wouldn't run the story, and Dems didn't do anything because they didn't think it was a competitive race.\nThe former is a good argument against billionaires owning all our media. The latter is unfortunately an all too common mistake the Dems make (see Boebert, Lauren).",
">\n\nYeah, I do wonder why candidate claims (especially when made by new candidates) aren't sent by opposition parties to private investigators as a matter of form.",
">\n\nThis man is the personification of the gift that keeps on giving.",
">\n\nThe grift that keeps on grifting.",
">\n\nAt this point, it's probably easier to list the claims he made about himself that are actually true.",
">\n\nNot really. There are none",
">\n\nI'm starting to think this guy stretches the truth here and there.",
">\n\nI'm waiting for it to come out that George Santos is really 3 kids in a trench coat",
">\n\nHere lies George Santos.\nHis career going up in flames much like his pants.\nBut wait, he's not a regular person. No no, he is a GOP congressman... Not only will the lies probably not hurt him, there's a nonzero chance he might even be the next speaker of the house after McCarthy finishes flaming out.\nSigh",
">\n\nGeorge Pantos",
">\n\nThe guy lies pathologically . Bullshitting himself and genuinely believing the bullshit . Perfect republican.",
">\n\nThe Cons have their own Anna Sorokin. Lol!!! Was just a matter of time.",
">\n\nI can’t wait to learn santos is actually Russian citizen",
">\n\nAt this point I would not be surprised to hear that he's actually from Russia...",
">\n\nhis opponent during the campaign should be sued for dereliction of duties \nwhat the fuck did he do the whole time ?",
">\n\nHey, look guys! He lied about everything!\nIn other words, he's a Republican. The only difference between him and Walker is that he's white.",
">\n\nIt seems he’s not well.",
">\n\nI'm starting to think this guy is a learning robot that only had one hour to study.",
">\n\nHe has no true claims",
">\n\n“Embellishments” that’s all. Lol 😂",
">\n\nThe GQP elected a compulsive liar? I’m shocked. Shocked! Well, not that shocked.",
">\n\nNext up, he is actually a she! Plot twist",
">\n\nI have a funny feeling with all the lies unraveling he's about to be defenestrated in more ways than one.",
">\n\nHe probably came out of a test tube. He must be making his parents so proud by now",
">\n\nNo, not this piece of shit…."
] |
>
He basically took every hot take position and rolled them into a single character.
Jew-"ish"
Ukranian
financial wizard
gay
elite prep school alum
Wall St scion
I'm waiting for a pic/video of him in black face so that he can claim to be African-American too.
|
[
"He's three raccoons in a trench coat at this point.",
">\n\nI would definitely rather have the 3 raccoons!",
">\n\nWho is George Santos?",
">\n\nIs he really George Santos?",
">\n\nYeah, at this point that is my question as well. Is his name really George Santos?",
">\n\n\"Santos angrily walked out of an interview with The Atlantic Monthly's Anne Applebaum Tuesday, after the senior reporter questioned Santos's claim to have been 'in Delta Force' back in the early 1980s, and that 'he answered only to [President Ronald] Reagan'. When Applebaum noted Santos was born in 1988 and asked to see the nun-chucks Santos claims were a gift from the Hong Kong ambassador for saving his daughter's life, Santos grew sullen and icily told Applebaum to 'always bet on black'.\"\n\"When Applebaum asked why he was quoting [1992 Wesley Snipes action film] Passenger 57, Santos angrily told her that 'Black Diamond' was his Special Forces code-name before stomping away.\"",
">\n\nToo bad this guy's not a natural born citizen...he could be President one day with lies like that!",
">\n\nAs if he can’t just say that he was born wherever he wants. Republicans aren't going to care if it's a lie.",
">\n\nNo shit… GOP’s finest",
">\n\nI think we need at least 20 more threads about this per hour.",
">\n\n\"george santos thread starterpack\" is about to show up in r/all",
">\n\nHoly shit. He even dragged Anthony Scaramucci into his fictional life.",
">\n\nI miss the mooch. Simpler times.",
">\n\nWith the Mooch you knew what you were getting. Zero fake news there.",
">\n\nOh sure, like a republiQan would ever have something to hide",
">\n\nAt a normal job, if your boss found out you lie about pretty much everything on your resume you would be fired. Why isn't this the case for this position?",
">\n\n\nAt a normal job, if your boss found out you lie about pretty much everything on your resume you would be fired. Why isn't this the case for this position?\n\nIt's not a normal job. Who would fire him? Who is his employer?\n\nIf it's the Republican Party, the party wants to fill that office with someone who will vote along party lines and they don't care if that's a tree stump named Fibber McDuplicitous. But it's not the party.\nIf it's the voters of his district, the Constitution provides no mechanism for voters to recall him. So it's not the voters.\nIt's the US House of Representatives itself, and by their rules they can't collectively get rid of a fellow representative unless 2/3 of the representatives vote to expel him. Good luck with that. Out of all the awful representatives over all the years of the United States, only five have been expelled -- and those were for treason or bribery.",
">\n\nSo basically any person can lie and cheat their way into the position and there is no mechanism in place the efficiently expell him if the people of his district wanted to. As long as you have the support of your party you are good to go. \nI still wish there was some sort of background check instead of relying on investigative journalism to hold someone accountable. I mean this guy so far has lied about pretty much everything. I wouldn't be surprised if we find out he lied about he real name",
">\n\n\nAs long as you have the support of your party you are good to go.\n\nAs long as you have the support of 145 (435/3) other members of the House, regardless of party membership, it is impossible to remove you from office.\n\nI still wish there was some sort of background check instead of relying on investigative journalism to hold someone accountable.\n\nIndependent journalism remains the best mechanism. Government investigating government isn't going to be as reliable.\nI don't know how the media and the Democrats missed this guy unless they just figured he was insignificant. (The New York Times did break the news on him, but only after the election.)",
">\n\nI read the other day that his opponent tried to raise questions about his story. Media outlets wouldn't run the story, and Dems didn't do anything because they didn't think it was a competitive race.\nThe former is a good argument against billionaires owning all our media. The latter is unfortunately an all too common mistake the Dems make (see Boebert, Lauren).",
">\n\nYeah, I do wonder why candidate claims (especially when made by new candidates) aren't sent by opposition parties to private investigators as a matter of form.",
">\n\nThis man is the personification of the gift that keeps on giving.",
">\n\nThe grift that keeps on grifting.",
">\n\nAt this point, it's probably easier to list the claims he made about himself that are actually true.",
">\n\nNot really. There are none",
">\n\nI'm starting to think this guy stretches the truth here and there.",
">\n\nI'm waiting for it to come out that George Santos is really 3 kids in a trench coat",
">\n\nHere lies George Santos.\nHis career going up in flames much like his pants.\nBut wait, he's not a regular person. No no, he is a GOP congressman... Not only will the lies probably not hurt him, there's a nonzero chance he might even be the next speaker of the house after McCarthy finishes flaming out.\nSigh",
">\n\nGeorge Pantos",
">\n\nThe guy lies pathologically . Bullshitting himself and genuinely believing the bullshit . Perfect republican.",
">\n\nThe Cons have their own Anna Sorokin. Lol!!! Was just a matter of time.",
">\n\nI can’t wait to learn santos is actually Russian citizen",
">\n\nAt this point I would not be surprised to hear that he's actually from Russia...",
">\n\nhis opponent during the campaign should be sued for dereliction of duties \nwhat the fuck did he do the whole time ?",
">\n\nHey, look guys! He lied about everything!\nIn other words, he's a Republican. The only difference between him and Walker is that he's white.",
">\n\nIt seems he’s not well.",
">\n\nI'm starting to think this guy is a learning robot that only had one hour to study.",
">\n\nHe has no true claims",
">\n\n“Embellishments” that’s all. Lol 😂",
">\n\nThe GQP elected a compulsive liar? I’m shocked. Shocked! Well, not that shocked.",
">\n\nNext up, he is actually a she! Plot twist",
">\n\nI have a funny feeling with all the lies unraveling he's about to be defenestrated in more ways than one.",
">\n\nHe probably came out of a test tube. He must be making his parents so proud by now",
">\n\nNo, not this piece of shit….",
">\n\nWhat a loser! Who is he again? 😂"
] |
>
Santos already claimed that back in 2020.
|
[
"He's three raccoons in a trench coat at this point.",
">\n\nI would definitely rather have the 3 raccoons!",
">\n\nWho is George Santos?",
">\n\nIs he really George Santos?",
">\n\nYeah, at this point that is my question as well. Is his name really George Santos?",
">\n\n\"Santos angrily walked out of an interview with The Atlantic Monthly's Anne Applebaum Tuesday, after the senior reporter questioned Santos's claim to have been 'in Delta Force' back in the early 1980s, and that 'he answered only to [President Ronald] Reagan'. When Applebaum noted Santos was born in 1988 and asked to see the nun-chucks Santos claims were a gift from the Hong Kong ambassador for saving his daughter's life, Santos grew sullen and icily told Applebaum to 'always bet on black'.\"\n\"When Applebaum asked why he was quoting [1992 Wesley Snipes action film] Passenger 57, Santos angrily told her that 'Black Diamond' was his Special Forces code-name before stomping away.\"",
">\n\nToo bad this guy's not a natural born citizen...he could be President one day with lies like that!",
">\n\nAs if he can’t just say that he was born wherever he wants. Republicans aren't going to care if it's a lie.",
">\n\nNo shit… GOP’s finest",
">\n\nI think we need at least 20 more threads about this per hour.",
">\n\n\"george santos thread starterpack\" is about to show up in r/all",
">\n\nHoly shit. He even dragged Anthony Scaramucci into his fictional life.",
">\n\nI miss the mooch. Simpler times.",
">\n\nWith the Mooch you knew what you were getting. Zero fake news there.",
">\n\nOh sure, like a republiQan would ever have something to hide",
">\n\nAt a normal job, if your boss found out you lie about pretty much everything on your resume you would be fired. Why isn't this the case for this position?",
">\n\n\nAt a normal job, if your boss found out you lie about pretty much everything on your resume you would be fired. Why isn't this the case for this position?\n\nIt's not a normal job. Who would fire him? Who is his employer?\n\nIf it's the Republican Party, the party wants to fill that office with someone who will vote along party lines and they don't care if that's a tree stump named Fibber McDuplicitous. But it's not the party.\nIf it's the voters of his district, the Constitution provides no mechanism for voters to recall him. So it's not the voters.\nIt's the US House of Representatives itself, and by their rules they can't collectively get rid of a fellow representative unless 2/3 of the representatives vote to expel him. Good luck with that. Out of all the awful representatives over all the years of the United States, only five have been expelled -- and those were for treason or bribery.",
">\n\nSo basically any person can lie and cheat their way into the position and there is no mechanism in place the efficiently expell him if the people of his district wanted to. As long as you have the support of your party you are good to go. \nI still wish there was some sort of background check instead of relying on investigative journalism to hold someone accountable. I mean this guy so far has lied about pretty much everything. I wouldn't be surprised if we find out he lied about he real name",
">\n\n\nAs long as you have the support of your party you are good to go.\n\nAs long as you have the support of 145 (435/3) other members of the House, regardless of party membership, it is impossible to remove you from office.\n\nI still wish there was some sort of background check instead of relying on investigative journalism to hold someone accountable.\n\nIndependent journalism remains the best mechanism. Government investigating government isn't going to be as reliable.\nI don't know how the media and the Democrats missed this guy unless they just figured he was insignificant. (The New York Times did break the news on him, but only after the election.)",
">\n\nI read the other day that his opponent tried to raise questions about his story. Media outlets wouldn't run the story, and Dems didn't do anything because they didn't think it was a competitive race.\nThe former is a good argument against billionaires owning all our media. The latter is unfortunately an all too common mistake the Dems make (see Boebert, Lauren).",
">\n\nYeah, I do wonder why candidate claims (especially when made by new candidates) aren't sent by opposition parties to private investigators as a matter of form.",
">\n\nThis man is the personification of the gift that keeps on giving.",
">\n\nThe grift that keeps on grifting.",
">\n\nAt this point, it's probably easier to list the claims he made about himself that are actually true.",
">\n\nNot really. There are none",
">\n\nI'm starting to think this guy stretches the truth here and there.",
">\n\nI'm waiting for it to come out that George Santos is really 3 kids in a trench coat",
">\n\nHere lies George Santos.\nHis career going up in flames much like his pants.\nBut wait, he's not a regular person. No no, he is a GOP congressman... Not only will the lies probably not hurt him, there's a nonzero chance he might even be the next speaker of the house after McCarthy finishes flaming out.\nSigh",
">\n\nGeorge Pantos",
">\n\nThe guy lies pathologically . Bullshitting himself and genuinely believing the bullshit . Perfect republican.",
">\n\nThe Cons have their own Anna Sorokin. Lol!!! Was just a matter of time.",
">\n\nI can’t wait to learn santos is actually Russian citizen",
">\n\nAt this point I would not be surprised to hear that he's actually from Russia...",
">\n\nhis opponent during the campaign should be sued for dereliction of duties \nwhat the fuck did he do the whole time ?",
">\n\nHey, look guys! He lied about everything!\nIn other words, he's a Republican. The only difference between him and Walker is that he's white.",
">\n\nIt seems he’s not well.",
">\n\nI'm starting to think this guy is a learning robot that only had one hour to study.",
">\n\nHe has no true claims",
">\n\n“Embellishments” that’s all. Lol 😂",
">\n\nThe GQP elected a compulsive liar? I’m shocked. Shocked! Well, not that shocked.",
">\n\nNext up, he is actually a she! Plot twist",
">\n\nI have a funny feeling with all the lies unraveling he's about to be defenestrated in more ways than one.",
">\n\nHe probably came out of a test tube. He must be making his parents so proud by now",
">\n\nNo, not this piece of shit….",
">\n\nWhat a loser! Who is he again? 😂",
">\n\nHe basically took every hot take position and rolled them into a single character.\n\nJew-\"ish\"\nUkranian\nfinancial wizard\ngay\nelite prep school alum\nWall St scion\n\nI'm waiting for a pic/video of him in black face so that he can claim to be African-American too."
] |
>
He picked the right party to run with the Republicans, he knows what trumps know they are truly gullible to have believed all this bullshit... I don't think he could've have gotten away with this bullshit has he ran as a democrat. The sad part of this whole thing is the republicans don't care they want him in that chamber.
|
[
"He's three raccoons in a trench coat at this point.",
">\n\nI would definitely rather have the 3 raccoons!",
">\n\nWho is George Santos?",
">\n\nIs he really George Santos?",
">\n\nYeah, at this point that is my question as well. Is his name really George Santos?",
">\n\n\"Santos angrily walked out of an interview with The Atlantic Monthly's Anne Applebaum Tuesday, after the senior reporter questioned Santos's claim to have been 'in Delta Force' back in the early 1980s, and that 'he answered only to [President Ronald] Reagan'. When Applebaum noted Santos was born in 1988 and asked to see the nun-chucks Santos claims were a gift from the Hong Kong ambassador for saving his daughter's life, Santos grew sullen and icily told Applebaum to 'always bet on black'.\"\n\"When Applebaum asked why he was quoting [1992 Wesley Snipes action film] Passenger 57, Santos angrily told her that 'Black Diamond' was his Special Forces code-name before stomping away.\"",
">\n\nToo bad this guy's not a natural born citizen...he could be President one day with lies like that!",
">\n\nAs if he can’t just say that he was born wherever he wants. Republicans aren't going to care if it's a lie.",
">\n\nNo shit… GOP’s finest",
">\n\nI think we need at least 20 more threads about this per hour.",
">\n\n\"george santos thread starterpack\" is about to show up in r/all",
">\n\nHoly shit. He even dragged Anthony Scaramucci into his fictional life.",
">\n\nI miss the mooch. Simpler times.",
">\n\nWith the Mooch you knew what you were getting. Zero fake news there.",
">\n\nOh sure, like a republiQan would ever have something to hide",
">\n\nAt a normal job, if your boss found out you lie about pretty much everything on your resume you would be fired. Why isn't this the case for this position?",
">\n\n\nAt a normal job, if your boss found out you lie about pretty much everything on your resume you would be fired. Why isn't this the case for this position?\n\nIt's not a normal job. Who would fire him? Who is his employer?\n\nIf it's the Republican Party, the party wants to fill that office with someone who will vote along party lines and they don't care if that's a tree stump named Fibber McDuplicitous. But it's not the party.\nIf it's the voters of his district, the Constitution provides no mechanism for voters to recall him. So it's not the voters.\nIt's the US House of Representatives itself, and by their rules they can't collectively get rid of a fellow representative unless 2/3 of the representatives vote to expel him. Good luck with that. Out of all the awful representatives over all the years of the United States, only five have been expelled -- and those were for treason or bribery.",
">\n\nSo basically any person can lie and cheat their way into the position and there is no mechanism in place the efficiently expell him if the people of his district wanted to. As long as you have the support of your party you are good to go. \nI still wish there was some sort of background check instead of relying on investigative journalism to hold someone accountable. I mean this guy so far has lied about pretty much everything. I wouldn't be surprised if we find out he lied about he real name",
">\n\n\nAs long as you have the support of your party you are good to go.\n\nAs long as you have the support of 145 (435/3) other members of the House, regardless of party membership, it is impossible to remove you from office.\n\nI still wish there was some sort of background check instead of relying on investigative journalism to hold someone accountable.\n\nIndependent journalism remains the best mechanism. Government investigating government isn't going to be as reliable.\nI don't know how the media and the Democrats missed this guy unless they just figured he was insignificant. (The New York Times did break the news on him, but only after the election.)",
">\n\nI read the other day that his opponent tried to raise questions about his story. Media outlets wouldn't run the story, and Dems didn't do anything because they didn't think it was a competitive race.\nThe former is a good argument against billionaires owning all our media. The latter is unfortunately an all too common mistake the Dems make (see Boebert, Lauren).",
">\n\nYeah, I do wonder why candidate claims (especially when made by new candidates) aren't sent by opposition parties to private investigators as a matter of form.",
">\n\nThis man is the personification of the gift that keeps on giving.",
">\n\nThe grift that keeps on grifting.",
">\n\nAt this point, it's probably easier to list the claims he made about himself that are actually true.",
">\n\nNot really. There are none",
">\n\nI'm starting to think this guy stretches the truth here and there.",
">\n\nI'm waiting for it to come out that George Santos is really 3 kids in a trench coat",
">\n\nHere lies George Santos.\nHis career going up in flames much like his pants.\nBut wait, he's not a regular person. No no, he is a GOP congressman... Not only will the lies probably not hurt him, there's a nonzero chance he might even be the next speaker of the house after McCarthy finishes flaming out.\nSigh",
">\n\nGeorge Pantos",
">\n\nThe guy lies pathologically . Bullshitting himself and genuinely believing the bullshit . Perfect republican.",
">\n\nThe Cons have their own Anna Sorokin. Lol!!! Was just a matter of time.",
">\n\nI can’t wait to learn santos is actually Russian citizen",
">\n\nAt this point I would not be surprised to hear that he's actually from Russia...",
">\n\nhis opponent during the campaign should be sued for dereliction of duties \nwhat the fuck did he do the whole time ?",
">\n\nHey, look guys! He lied about everything!\nIn other words, he's a Republican. The only difference between him and Walker is that he's white.",
">\n\nIt seems he’s not well.",
">\n\nI'm starting to think this guy is a learning robot that only had one hour to study.",
">\n\nHe has no true claims",
">\n\n“Embellishments” that’s all. Lol 😂",
">\n\nThe GQP elected a compulsive liar? I’m shocked. Shocked! Well, not that shocked.",
">\n\nNext up, he is actually a she! Plot twist",
">\n\nI have a funny feeling with all the lies unraveling he's about to be defenestrated in more ways than one.",
">\n\nHe probably came out of a test tube. He must be making his parents so proud by now",
">\n\nNo, not this piece of shit….",
">\n\nWhat a loser! Who is he again? 😂",
">\n\nHe basically took every hot take position and rolled them into a single character.\n\nJew-\"ish\"\nUkranian\nfinancial wizard\ngay\nelite prep school alum\nWall St scion\n\nI'm waiting for a pic/video of him in black face so that he can claim to be African-American too.",
">\n\nSantos already claimed that back in 2020."
] |
>
This is actually the famous David Dennison, finally stepping into the light to claim his own in a very Dennison way. I thought everyone could tell that.
|
[
"He's three raccoons in a trench coat at this point.",
">\n\nI would definitely rather have the 3 raccoons!",
">\n\nWho is George Santos?",
">\n\nIs he really George Santos?",
">\n\nYeah, at this point that is my question as well. Is his name really George Santos?",
">\n\n\"Santos angrily walked out of an interview with The Atlantic Monthly's Anne Applebaum Tuesday, after the senior reporter questioned Santos's claim to have been 'in Delta Force' back in the early 1980s, and that 'he answered only to [President Ronald] Reagan'. When Applebaum noted Santos was born in 1988 and asked to see the nun-chucks Santos claims were a gift from the Hong Kong ambassador for saving his daughter's life, Santos grew sullen and icily told Applebaum to 'always bet on black'.\"\n\"When Applebaum asked why he was quoting [1992 Wesley Snipes action film] Passenger 57, Santos angrily told her that 'Black Diamond' was his Special Forces code-name before stomping away.\"",
">\n\nToo bad this guy's not a natural born citizen...he could be President one day with lies like that!",
">\n\nAs if he can’t just say that he was born wherever he wants. Republicans aren't going to care if it's a lie.",
">\n\nNo shit… GOP’s finest",
">\n\nI think we need at least 20 more threads about this per hour.",
">\n\n\"george santos thread starterpack\" is about to show up in r/all",
">\n\nHoly shit. He even dragged Anthony Scaramucci into his fictional life.",
">\n\nI miss the mooch. Simpler times.",
">\n\nWith the Mooch you knew what you were getting. Zero fake news there.",
">\n\nOh sure, like a republiQan would ever have something to hide",
">\n\nAt a normal job, if your boss found out you lie about pretty much everything on your resume you would be fired. Why isn't this the case for this position?",
">\n\n\nAt a normal job, if your boss found out you lie about pretty much everything on your resume you would be fired. Why isn't this the case for this position?\n\nIt's not a normal job. Who would fire him? Who is his employer?\n\nIf it's the Republican Party, the party wants to fill that office with someone who will vote along party lines and they don't care if that's a tree stump named Fibber McDuplicitous. But it's not the party.\nIf it's the voters of his district, the Constitution provides no mechanism for voters to recall him. So it's not the voters.\nIt's the US House of Representatives itself, and by their rules they can't collectively get rid of a fellow representative unless 2/3 of the representatives vote to expel him. Good luck with that. Out of all the awful representatives over all the years of the United States, only five have been expelled -- and those were for treason or bribery.",
">\n\nSo basically any person can lie and cheat their way into the position and there is no mechanism in place the efficiently expell him if the people of his district wanted to. As long as you have the support of your party you are good to go. \nI still wish there was some sort of background check instead of relying on investigative journalism to hold someone accountable. I mean this guy so far has lied about pretty much everything. I wouldn't be surprised if we find out he lied about he real name",
">\n\n\nAs long as you have the support of your party you are good to go.\n\nAs long as you have the support of 145 (435/3) other members of the House, regardless of party membership, it is impossible to remove you from office.\n\nI still wish there was some sort of background check instead of relying on investigative journalism to hold someone accountable.\n\nIndependent journalism remains the best mechanism. Government investigating government isn't going to be as reliable.\nI don't know how the media and the Democrats missed this guy unless they just figured he was insignificant. (The New York Times did break the news on him, but only after the election.)",
">\n\nI read the other day that his opponent tried to raise questions about his story. Media outlets wouldn't run the story, and Dems didn't do anything because they didn't think it was a competitive race.\nThe former is a good argument against billionaires owning all our media. The latter is unfortunately an all too common mistake the Dems make (see Boebert, Lauren).",
">\n\nYeah, I do wonder why candidate claims (especially when made by new candidates) aren't sent by opposition parties to private investigators as a matter of form.",
">\n\nThis man is the personification of the gift that keeps on giving.",
">\n\nThe grift that keeps on grifting.",
">\n\nAt this point, it's probably easier to list the claims he made about himself that are actually true.",
">\n\nNot really. There are none",
">\n\nI'm starting to think this guy stretches the truth here and there.",
">\n\nI'm waiting for it to come out that George Santos is really 3 kids in a trench coat",
">\n\nHere lies George Santos.\nHis career going up in flames much like his pants.\nBut wait, he's not a regular person. No no, he is a GOP congressman... Not only will the lies probably not hurt him, there's a nonzero chance he might even be the next speaker of the house after McCarthy finishes flaming out.\nSigh",
">\n\nGeorge Pantos",
">\n\nThe guy lies pathologically . Bullshitting himself and genuinely believing the bullshit . Perfect republican.",
">\n\nThe Cons have their own Anna Sorokin. Lol!!! Was just a matter of time.",
">\n\nI can’t wait to learn santos is actually Russian citizen",
">\n\nAt this point I would not be surprised to hear that he's actually from Russia...",
">\n\nhis opponent during the campaign should be sued for dereliction of duties \nwhat the fuck did he do the whole time ?",
">\n\nHey, look guys! He lied about everything!\nIn other words, he's a Republican. The only difference between him and Walker is that he's white.",
">\n\nIt seems he’s not well.",
">\n\nI'm starting to think this guy is a learning robot that only had one hour to study.",
">\n\nHe has no true claims",
">\n\n“Embellishments” that’s all. Lol 😂",
">\n\nThe GQP elected a compulsive liar? I’m shocked. Shocked! Well, not that shocked.",
">\n\nNext up, he is actually a she! Plot twist",
">\n\nI have a funny feeling with all the lies unraveling he's about to be defenestrated in more ways than one.",
">\n\nHe probably came out of a test tube. He must be making his parents so proud by now",
">\n\nNo, not this piece of shit….",
">\n\nWhat a loser! Who is he again? 😂",
">\n\nHe basically took every hot take position and rolled them into a single character.\n\nJew-\"ish\"\nUkranian\nfinancial wizard\ngay\nelite prep school alum\nWall St scion\n\nI'm waiting for a pic/video of him in black face so that he can claim to be African-American too.",
">\n\nSantos already claimed that back in 2020.",
">\n\nHe picked the right party to run with the Republicans, he knows what trumps know they are truly gullible to have believed all this bullshit... I don't think he could've have gotten away with this bullshit has he ran as a democrat. The sad part of this whole thing is the republicans don't care they want him in that chamber."
] |
>
3 out of 5 posts on r/news about this guy.
I’m thankful, now I have reason to quit reddit.
Thanks George!
|
[
"He's three raccoons in a trench coat at this point.",
">\n\nI would definitely rather have the 3 raccoons!",
">\n\nWho is George Santos?",
">\n\nIs he really George Santos?",
">\n\nYeah, at this point that is my question as well. Is his name really George Santos?",
">\n\n\"Santos angrily walked out of an interview with The Atlantic Monthly's Anne Applebaum Tuesday, after the senior reporter questioned Santos's claim to have been 'in Delta Force' back in the early 1980s, and that 'he answered only to [President Ronald] Reagan'. When Applebaum noted Santos was born in 1988 and asked to see the nun-chucks Santos claims were a gift from the Hong Kong ambassador for saving his daughter's life, Santos grew sullen and icily told Applebaum to 'always bet on black'.\"\n\"When Applebaum asked why he was quoting [1992 Wesley Snipes action film] Passenger 57, Santos angrily told her that 'Black Diamond' was his Special Forces code-name before stomping away.\"",
">\n\nToo bad this guy's not a natural born citizen...he could be President one day with lies like that!",
">\n\nAs if he can’t just say that he was born wherever he wants. Republicans aren't going to care if it's a lie.",
">\n\nNo shit… GOP’s finest",
">\n\nI think we need at least 20 more threads about this per hour.",
">\n\n\"george santos thread starterpack\" is about to show up in r/all",
">\n\nHoly shit. He even dragged Anthony Scaramucci into his fictional life.",
">\n\nI miss the mooch. Simpler times.",
">\n\nWith the Mooch you knew what you were getting. Zero fake news there.",
">\n\nOh sure, like a republiQan would ever have something to hide",
">\n\nAt a normal job, if your boss found out you lie about pretty much everything on your resume you would be fired. Why isn't this the case for this position?",
">\n\n\nAt a normal job, if your boss found out you lie about pretty much everything on your resume you would be fired. Why isn't this the case for this position?\n\nIt's not a normal job. Who would fire him? Who is his employer?\n\nIf it's the Republican Party, the party wants to fill that office with someone who will vote along party lines and they don't care if that's a tree stump named Fibber McDuplicitous. But it's not the party.\nIf it's the voters of his district, the Constitution provides no mechanism for voters to recall him. So it's not the voters.\nIt's the US House of Representatives itself, and by their rules they can't collectively get rid of a fellow representative unless 2/3 of the representatives vote to expel him. Good luck with that. Out of all the awful representatives over all the years of the United States, only five have been expelled -- and those were for treason or bribery.",
">\n\nSo basically any person can lie and cheat their way into the position and there is no mechanism in place the efficiently expell him if the people of his district wanted to. As long as you have the support of your party you are good to go. \nI still wish there was some sort of background check instead of relying on investigative journalism to hold someone accountable. I mean this guy so far has lied about pretty much everything. I wouldn't be surprised if we find out he lied about he real name",
">\n\n\nAs long as you have the support of your party you are good to go.\n\nAs long as you have the support of 145 (435/3) other members of the House, regardless of party membership, it is impossible to remove you from office.\n\nI still wish there was some sort of background check instead of relying on investigative journalism to hold someone accountable.\n\nIndependent journalism remains the best mechanism. Government investigating government isn't going to be as reliable.\nI don't know how the media and the Democrats missed this guy unless they just figured he was insignificant. (The New York Times did break the news on him, but only after the election.)",
">\n\nI read the other day that his opponent tried to raise questions about his story. Media outlets wouldn't run the story, and Dems didn't do anything because they didn't think it was a competitive race.\nThe former is a good argument against billionaires owning all our media. The latter is unfortunately an all too common mistake the Dems make (see Boebert, Lauren).",
">\n\nYeah, I do wonder why candidate claims (especially when made by new candidates) aren't sent by opposition parties to private investigators as a matter of form.",
">\n\nThis man is the personification of the gift that keeps on giving.",
">\n\nThe grift that keeps on grifting.",
">\n\nAt this point, it's probably easier to list the claims he made about himself that are actually true.",
">\n\nNot really. There are none",
">\n\nI'm starting to think this guy stretches the truth here and there.",
">\n\nI'm waiting for it to come out that George Santos is really 3 kids in a trench coat",
">\n\nHere lies George Santos.\nHis career going up in flames much like his pants.\nBut wait, he's not a regular person. No no, he is a GOP congressman... Not only will the lies probably not hurt him, there's a nonzero chance he might even be the next speaker of the house after McCarthy finishes flaming out.\nSigh",
">\n\nGeorge Pantos",
">\n\nThe guy lies pathologically . Bullshitting himself and genuinely believing the bullshit . Perfect republican.",
">\n\nThe Cons have their own Anna Sorokin. Lol!!! Was just a matter of time.",
">\n\nI can’t wait to learn santos is actually Russian citizen",
">\n\nAt this point I would not be surprised to hear that he's actually from Russia...",
">\n\nhis opponent during the campaign should be sued for dereliction of duties \nwhat the fuck did he do the whole time ?",
">\n\nHey, look guys! He lied about everything!\nIn other words, he's a Republican. The only difference between him and Walker is that he's white.",
">\n\nIt seems he’s not well.",
">\n\nI'm starting to think this guy is a learning robot that only had one hour to study.",
">\n\nHe has no true claims",
">\n\n“Embellishments” that’s all. Lol 😂",
">\n\nThe GQP elected a compulsive liar? I’m shocked. Shocked! Well, not that shocked.",
">\n\nNext up, he is actually a she! Plot twist",
">\n\nI have a funny feeling with all the lies unraveling he's about to be defenestrated in more ways than one.",
">\n\nHe probably came out of a test tube. He must be making his parents so proud by now",
">\n\nNo, not this piece of shit….",
">\n\nWhat a loser! Who is he again? 😂",
">\n\nHe basically took every hot take position and rolled them into a single character.\n\nJew-\"ish\"\nUkranian\nfinancial wizard\ngay\nelite prep school alum\nWall St scion\n\nI'm waiting for a pic/video of him in black face so that he can claim to be African-American too.",
">\n\nSantos already claimed that back in 2020.",
">\n\nHe picked the right party to run with the Republicans, he knows what trumps know they are truly gullible to have believed all this bullshit... I don't think he could've have gotten away with this bullshit has he ran as a democrat. The sad part of this whole thing is the republicans don't care they want him in that chamber.",
">\n\nThis is actually the famous David Dennison, finally stepping into the light to claim his own in a very Dennison way. I thought everyone could tell that."
] |
>
|
[
"He's three raccoons in a trench coat at this point.",
">\n\nI would definitely rather have the 3 raccoons!",
">\n\nWho is George Santos?",
">\n\nIs he really George Santos?",
">\n\nYeah, at this point that is my question as well. Is his name really George Santos?",
">\n\n\"Santos angrily walked out of an interview with The Atlantic Monthly's Anne Applebaum Tuesday, after the senior reporter questioned Santos's claim to have been 'in Delta Force' back in the early 1980s, and that 'he answered only to [President Ronald] Reagan'. When Applebaum noted Santos was born in 1988 and asked to see the nun-chucks Santos claims were a gift from the Hong Kong ambassador for saving his daughter's life, Santos grew sullen and icily told Applebaum to 'always bet on black'.\"\n\"When Applebaum asked why he was quoting [1992 Wesley Snipes action film] Passenger 57, Santos angrily told her that 'Black Diamond' was his Special Forces code-name before stomping away.\"",
">\n\nToo bad this guy's not a natural born citizen...he could be President one day with lies like that!",
">\n\nAs if he can’t just say that he was born wherever he wants. Republicans aren't going to care if it's a lie.",
">\n\nNo shit… GOP’s finest",
">\n\nI think we need at least 20 more threads about this per hour.",
">\n\n\"george santos thread starterpack\" is about to show up in r/all",
">\n\nHoly shit. He even dragged Anthony Scaramucci into his fictional life.",
">\n\nI miss the mooch. Simpler times.",
">\n\nWith the Mooch you knew what you were getting. Zero fake news there.",
">\n\nOh sure, like a republiQan would ever have something to hide",
">\n\nAt a normal job, if your boss found out you lie about pretty much everything on your resume you would be fired. Why isn't this the case for this position?",
">\n\n\nAt a normal job, if your boss found out you lie about pretty much everything on your resume you would be fired. Why isn't this the case for this position?\n\nIt's not a normal job. Who would fire him? Who is his employer?\n\nIf it's the Republican Party, the party wants to fill that office with someone who will vote along party lines and they don't care if that's a tree stump named Fibber McDuplicitous. But it's not the party.\nIf it's the voters of his district, the Constitution provides no mechanism for voters to recall him. So it's not the voters.\nIt's the US House of Representatives itself, and by their rules they can't collectively get rid of a fellow representative unless 2/3 of the representatives vote to expel him. Good luck with that. Out of all the awful representatives over all the years of the United States, only five have been expelled -- and those were for treason or bribery.",
">\n\nSo basically any person can lie and cheat their way into the position and there is no mechanism in place the efficiently expell him if the people of his district wanted to. As long as you have the support of your party you are good to go. \nI still wish there was some sort of background check instead of relying on investigative journalism to hold someone accountable. I mean this guy so far has lied about pretty much everything. I wouldn't be surprised if we find out he lied about he real name",
">\n\n\nAs long as you have the support of your party you are good to go.\n\nAs long as you have the support of 145 (435/3) other members of the House, regardless of party membership, it is impossible to remove you from office.\n\nI still wish there was some sort of background check instead of relying on investigative journalism to hold someone accountable.\n\nIndependent journalism remains the best mechanism. Government investigating government isn't going to be as reliable.\nI don't know how the media and the Democrats missed this guy unless they just figured he was insignificant. (The New York Times did break the news on him, but only after the election.)",
">\n\nI read the other day that his opponent tried to raise questions about his story. Media outlets wouldn't run the story, and Dems didn't do anything because they didn't think it was a competitive race.\nThe former is a good argument against billionaires owning all our media. The latter is unfortunately an all too common mistake the Dems make (see Boebert, Lauren).",
">\n\nYeah, I do wonder why candidate claims (especially when made by new candidates) aren't sent by opposition parties to private investigators as a matter of form.",
">\n\nThis man is the personification of the gift that keeps on giving.",
">\n\nThe grift that keeps on grifting.",
">\n\nAt this point, it's probably easier to list the claims he made about himself that are actually true.",
">\n\nNot really. There are none",
">\n\nI'm starting to think this guy stretches the truth here and there.",
">\n\nI'm waiting for it to come out that George Santos is really 3 kids in a trench coat",
">\n\nHere lies George Santos.\nHis career going up in flames much like his pants.\nBut wait, he's not a regular person. No no, he is a GOP congressman... Not only will the lies probably not hurt him, there's a nonzero chance he might even be the next speaker of the house after McCarthy finishes flaming out.\nSigh",
">\n\nGeorge Pantos",
">\n\nThe guy lies pathologically . Bullshitting himself and genuinely believing the bullshit . Perfect republican.",
">\n\nThe Cons have their own Anna Sorokin. Lol!!! Was just a matter of time.",
">\n\nI can’t wait to learn santos is actually Russian citizen",
">\n\nAt this point I would not be surprised to hear that he's actually from Russia...",
">\n\nhis opponent during the campaign should be sued for dereliction of duties \nwhat the fuck did he do the whole time ?",
">\n\nHey, look guys! He lied about everything!\nIn other words, he's a Republican. The only difference between him and Walker is that he's white.",
">\n\nIt seems he’s not well.",
">\n\nI'm starting to think this guy is a learning robot that only had one hour to study.",
">\n\nHe has no true claims",
">\n\n“Embellishments” that’s all. Lol 😂",
">\n\nThe GQP elected a compulsive liar? I’m shocked. Shocked! Well, not that shocked.",
">\n\nNext up, he is actually a she! Plot twist",
">\n\nI have a funny feeling with all the lies unraveling he's about to be defenestrated in more ways than one.",
">\n\nHe probably came out of a test tube. He must be making his parents so proud by now",
">\n\nNo, not this piece of shit….",
">\n\nWhat a loser! Who is he again? 😂",
">\n\nHe basically took every hot take position and rolled them into a single character.\n\nJew-\"ish\"\nUkranian\nfinancial wizard\ngay\nelite prep school alum\nWall St scion\n\nI'm waiting for a pic/video of him in black face so that he can claim to be African-American too.",
">\n\nSantos already claimed that back in 2020.",
">\n\nHe picked the right party to run with the Republicans, he knows what trumps know they are truly gullible to have believed all this bullshit... I don't think he could've have gotten away with this bullshit has he ran as a democrat. The sad part of this whole thing is the republicans don't care they want him in that chamber.",
">\n\nThis is actually the famous David Dennison, finally stepping into the light to claim his own in a very Dennison way. I thought everyone could tell that.",
">\n\n3 out of 5 posts on r/news about this guy. \nI’m thankful, now I have reason to quit reddit. \nThanks George!"
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I think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.
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Kids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest."
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This is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.
It takes a village to raise a child.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with."
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So I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child."
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Depends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it."
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No. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents."
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Newish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day."
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Not just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways."
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This is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.
Also responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed."
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Why should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse."
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Do you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies."
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I mean, they wouldn't be normal without one
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex."
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They are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one"
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Not that it's had time to refill, so much as their "give-a-shit"ometer has been eroded over the years.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility."
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Nope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years."
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I don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)"
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I agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience."
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Nah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent"
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Maybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy."
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Nah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not."
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The saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately."
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Take care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules."
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What absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later."
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Clearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.
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[
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?"
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No it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply."
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As a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P"
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Raise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids.
Spoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁"
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This seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids."
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Also because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all."
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>
Not the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.
|
[
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids."
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>
LOL.
Grandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because
they can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...
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[
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me."
] |
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My Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses
|
[
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting..."
] |
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It worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.
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[
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses"
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That is great. Mine sucked at both!
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom."
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>
I remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.
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[
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!"
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My grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?
Meanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.
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[
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less."
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How about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done."
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Nonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day."
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For me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.
It wasn't "be good at K Mart or else". It was "if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out"
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love."
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When the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\""
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My mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents."
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That’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good"
] |
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Glad your parents changed.
Mine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.
|
[
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future."
] |
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Or because they know that it's not their responsibility really.
Think of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.
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[
"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us."
] |
>
i actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad."
] |
>
1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins."
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I think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma"
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As a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet."
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It's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about."
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Nah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long."
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No, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go."
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I wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing.
Luckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult."
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No it's because they just get the fun times. No waking them up/putting them to bed, you get their good moods etc, and most importantly when you're sick of em, you can fuck em off back to the parents.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.",
">\n\nI wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing. \nLuckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them."
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And grandkids are about 5% their responsibility vs. the 100% their children were. Much less pressure and stress.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.",
">\n\nI wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing. \nLuckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them.",
">\n\nNo it's because they just get the fun times. No waking them up/putting them to bed, you get their good moods etc, and most importantly when you're sick of em, you can fuck em off back to the parents."
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Every generation goes through it. The grandparents pamper the grandkids. The grandkids are now spoiled, and their parents have to deal with them. Those parents were once kids, and those grandparents were the parents of those kids, and they went through it too because their own parents spoiled their kids. It's a form of inherited generational revenge.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.",
">\n\nI wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing. \nLuckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them.",
">\n\nNo it's because they just get the fun times. No waking them up/putting them to bed, you get their good moods etc, and most importantly when you're sick of em, you can fuck em off back to the parents.",
">\n\nAnd grandkids are about 5% their responsibility vs. the 100% their children were. Much less pressure and stress."
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or they did do their parenting right and actually raise/treat you better than your own mom/absent dad
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.",
">\n\nI wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing. \nLuckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them.",
">\n\nNo it's because they just get the fun times. No waking them up/putting them to bed, you get their good moods etc, and most importantly when you're sick of em, you can fuck em off back to the parents.",
">\n\nAnd grandkids are about 5% their responsibility vs. the 100% their children were. Much less pressure and stress.",
">\n\nEvery generation goes through it. The grandparents pamper the grandkids. The grandkids are now spoiled, and their parents have to deal with them. Those parents were once kids, and those grandparents were the parents of those kids, and they went through it too because their own parents spoiled their kids. It's a form of inherited generational revenge."
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Gnaw, that aint it. When I don't have to be the disciplinarian and can just be the fun and playful adult, yer damn right I am gunna take that chance,
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.",
">\n\nI wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing. \nLuckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them.",
">\n\nNo it's because they just get the fun times. No waking them up/putting them to bed, you get their good moods etc, and most importantly when you're sick of em, you can fuck em off back to the parents.",
">\n\nAnd grandkids are about 5% their responsibility vs. the 100% their children were. Much less pressure and stress.",
">\n\nEvery generation goes through it. The grandparents pamper the grandkids. The grandkids are now spoiled, and their parents have to deal with them. Those parents were once kids, and those grandparents were the parents of those kids, and they went through it too because their own parents spoiled their kids. It's a form of inherited generational revenge.",
">\n\nor they did do their parenting right and actually raise/treat you better than your own mom/absent dad"
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My gran gave my mum some lovely advice when I had my daughter, "You can spoil her but please remember who you're sending her back to at the end of the day, your own baby."
Essentially, don't pump your granddaughter full of sugar then send her home to your daughter as a hurricane of a child 😂
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.",
">\n\nI wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing. \nLuckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them.",
">\n\nNo it's because they just get the fun times. No waking them up/putting them to bed, you get their good moods etc, and most importantly when you're sick of em, you can fuck em off back to the parents.",
">\n\nAnd grandkids are about 5% their responsibility vs. the 100% their children were. Much less pressure and stress.",
">\n\nEvery generation goes through it. The grandparents pamper the grandkids. The grandkids are now spoiled, and their parents have to deal with them. Those parents were once kids, and those grandparents were the parents of those kids, and they went through it too because their own parents spoiled their kids. It's a form of inherited generational revenge.",
">\n\nor they did do their parenting right and actually raise/treat you better than your own mom/absent dad",
">\n\nGnaw, that aint it. When I don't have to be the disciplinarian and can just be the fun and playful adult, yer damn right I am gunna take that chance,"
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Not at all, it’s because they don’t have to deal with the 24/7 bullshit that kids inevitably come with.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.",
">\n\nI wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing. \nLuckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them.",
">\n\nNo it's because they just get the fun times. No waking them up/putting them to bed, you get their good moods etc, and most importantly when you're sick of em, you can fuck em off back to the parents.",
">\n\nAnd grandkids are about 5% their responsibility vs. the 100% their children were. Much less pressure and stress.",
">\n\nEvery generation goes through it. The grandparents pamper the grandkids. The grandkids are now spoiled, and their parents have to deal with them. Those parents were once kids, and those grandparents were the parents of those kids, and they went through it too because their own parents spoiled their kids. It's a form of inherited generational revenge.",
">\n\nor they did do their parenting right and actually raise/treat you better than your own mom/absent dad",
">\n\nGnaw, that aint it. When I don't have to be the disciplinarian and can just be the fun and playful adult, yer damn right I am gunna take that chance,",
">\n\nMy gran gave my mum some lovely advice when I had my daughter, \"You can spoil her but please remember who you're sending her back to at the end of the day, your own baby.\" \nEssentially, don't pump your granddaughter full of sugar then send her home to your daughter as a hurricane of a child 😂"
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I think it's more that when you're a parent, you're juggling work and home and not able to enjoy every little moment because you're worried about providing for your children. When you're a grandparent, you've had a good chunk of time to save as your kids are adults and don't require as much from you, so you're able to just enjoy grandparenting.
I can't wait to be a grandparent.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.",
">\n\nI wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing. \nLuckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them.",
">\n\nNo it's because they just get the fun times. No waking them up/putting them to bed, you get their good moods etc, and most importantly when you're sick of em, you can fuck em off back to the parents.",
">\n\nAnd grandkids are about 5% their responsibility vs. the 100% their children were. Much less pressure and stress.",
">\n\nEvery generation goes through it. The grandparents pamper the grandkids. The grandkids are now spoiled, and their parents have to deal with them. Those parents were once kids, and those grandparents were the parents of those kids, and they went through it too because their own parents spoiled their kids. It's a form of inherited generational revenge.",
">\n\nor they did do their parenting right and actually raise/treat you better than your own mom/absent dad",
">\n\nGnaw, that aint it. When I don't have to be the disciplinarian and can just be the fun and playful adult, yer damn right I am gunna take that chance,",
">\n\nMy gran gave my mum some lovely advice when I had my daughter, \"You can spoil her but please remember who you're sending her back to at the end of the day, your own baby.\" \nEssentially, don't pump your granddaughter full of sugar then send her home to your daughter as a hurricane of a child 😂",
">\n\nNot at all, it’s because they don’t have to deal with the 24/7 bullshit that kids inevitably come with."
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It’s because grandparents want to get what they want at all cost and think they’re superior to the parents and come first. So…. That’s why they only get the grandkid on a limited manner. You don’t get to mess up your kids then attempt to “make it better” with grand kids. You can’t “fix” what you did.
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"This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.",
">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.",
">\n\nI wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing. \nLuckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them.",
">\n\nNo it's because they just get the fun times. No waking them up/putting them to bed, you get their good moods etc, and most importantly when you're sick of em, you can fuck em off back to the parents.",
">\n\nAnd grandkids are about 5% their responsibility vs. the 100% their children were. Much less pressure and stress.",
">\n\nEvery generation goes through it. The grandparents pamper the grandkids. The grandkids are now spoiled, and their parents have to deal with them. Those parents were once kids, and those grandparents were the parents of those kids, and they went through it too because their own parents spoiled their kids. It's a form of inherited generational revenge.",
">\n\nor they did do their parenting right and actually raise/treat you better than your own mom/absent dad",
">\n\nGnaw, that aint it. When I don't have to be the disciplinarian and can just be the fun and playful adult, yer damn right I am gunna take that chance,",
">\n\nMy gran gave my mum some lovely advice when I had my daughter, \"You can spoil her but please remember who you're sending her back to at the end of the day, your own baby.\" \nEssentially, don't pump your granddaughter full of sugar then send her home to your daughter as a hurricane of a child 😂",
">\n\nNot at all, it’s because they don’t have to deal with the 24/7 bullshit that kids inevitably come with.",
">\n\nI think it's more that when you're a parent, you're juggling work and home and not able to enjoy every little moment because you're worried about providing for your children. When you're a grandparent, you've had a good chunk of time to save as your kids are adults and don't require as much from you, so you're able to just enjoy grandparenting.\nI can't wait to be a grandparent."
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I think as a parent you look back at some of the things you thought were a big deal, and realize they weren’t a big deal. I noticed this with my second kid, and even more so now that I see my brother raising his kids (mine are adults).
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.",
">\n\nI wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing. \nLuckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them.",
">\n\nNo it's because they just get the fun times. No waking them up/putting them to bed, you get their good moods etc, and most importantly when you're sick of em, you can fuck em off back to the parents.",
">\n\nAnd grandkids are about 5% their responsibility vs. the 100% their children were. Much less pressure and stress.",
">\n\nEvery generation goes through it. The grandparents pamper the grandkids. The grandkids are now spoiled, and their parents have to deal with them. Those parents were once kids, and those grandparents were the parents of those kids, and they went through it too because their own parents spoiled their kids. It's a form of inherited generational revenge.",
">\n\nor they did do their parenting right and actually raise/treat you better than your own mom/absent dad",
">\n\nGnaw, that aint it. When I don't have to be the disciplinarian and can just be the fun and playful adult, yer damn right I am gunna take that chance,",
">\n\nMy gran gave my mum some lovely advice when I had my daughter, \"You can spoil her but please remember who you're sending her back to at the end of the day, your own baby.\" \nEssentially, don't pump your granddaughter full of sugar then send her home to your daughter as a hurricane of a child 😂",
">\n\nNot at all, it’s because they don’t have to deal with the 24/7 bullshit that kids inevitably come with.",
">\n\nI think it's more that when you're a parent, you're juggling work and home and not able to enjoy every little moment because you're worried about providing for your children. When you're a grandparent, you've had a good chunk of time to save as your kids are adults and don't require as much from you, so you're able to just enjoy grandparenting.\nI can't wait to be a grandparent.",
">\n\nIt’s because grandparents want to get what they want at all cost and think they’re superior to the parents and come first. So…. That’s why they only get the grandkid on a limited manner. You don’t get to mess up your kids then attempt to “make it better” with grand kids. You can’t “fix” what you did."
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Mine aren't. Or if they are, good God was I mentally abused far more than I remember.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.",
">\n\nI wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing. \nLuckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them.",
">\n\nNo it's because they just get the fun times. No waking them up/putting them to bed, you get their good moods etc, and most importantly when you're sick of em, you can fuck em off back to the parents.",
">\n\nAnd grandkids are about 5% their responsibility vs. the 100% their children were. Much less pressure and stress.",
">\n\nEvery generation goes through it. The grandparents pamper the grandkids. The grandkids are now spoiled, and their parents have to deal with them. Those parents were once kids, and those grandparents were the parents of those kids, and they went through it too because their own parents spoiled their kids. It's a form of inherited generational revenge.",
">\n\nor they did do their parenting right and actually raise/treat you better than your own mom/absent dad",
">\n\nGnaw, that aint it. When I don't have to be the disciplinarian and can just be the fun and playful adult, yer damn right I am gunna take that chance,",
">\n\nMy gran gave my mum some lovely advice when I had my daughter, \"You can spoil her but please remember who you're sending her back to at the end of the day, your own baby.\" \nEssentially, don't pump your granddaughter full of sugar then send her home to your daughter as a hurricane of a child 😂",
">\n\nNot at all, it’s because they don’t have to deal with the 24/7 bullshit that kids inevitably come with.",
">\n\nI think it's more that when you're a parent, you're juggling work and home and not able to enjoy every little moment because you're worried about providing for your children. When you're a grandparent, you've had a good chunk of time to save as your kids are adults and don't require as much from you, so you're able to just enjoy grandparenting.\nI can't wait to be a grandparent.",
">\n\nIt’s because grandparents want to get what they want at all cost and think they’re superior to the parents and come first. So…. That’s why they only get the grandkid on a limited manner. You don’t get to mess up your kids then attempt to “make it better” with grand kids. You can’t “fix” what you did.",
">\n\nI think as a parent you look back at some of the things you thought were a big deal, and realize they weren’t a big deal. I noticed this with my second kid, and even more so now that I see my brother raising his kids (mine are adults)."
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A few years back I read a study about hormones changing in older males. They noted that testosterone (more aggressive) often decreased but that oxytocin (the love hormone) increased. They speculated that this was evolutionarily advantageous because it meant that grandparents would look after their grandchildren, allowing the parents to do their thing.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.",
">\n\nI wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing. \nLuckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them.",
">\n\nNo it's because they just get the fun times. No waking them up/putting them to bed, you get their good moods etc, and most importantly when you're sick of em, you can fuck em off back to the parents.",
">\n\nAnd grandkids are about 5% their responsibility vs. the 100% their children were. Much less pressure and stress.",
">\n\nEvery generation goes through it. The grandparents pamper the grandkids. The grandkids are now spoiled, and their parents have to deal with them. Those parents were once kids, and those grandparents were the parents of those kids, and they went through it too because their own parents spoiled their kids. It's a form of inherited generational revenge.",
">\n\nor they did do their parenting right and actually raise/treat you better than your own mom/absent dad",
">\n\nGnaw, that aint it. When I don't have to be the disciplinarian and can just be the fun and playful adult, yer damn right I am gunna take that chance,",
">\n\nMy gran gave my mum some lovely advice when I had my daughter, \"You can spoil her but please remember who you're sending her back to at the end of the day, your own baby.\" \nEssentially, don't pump your granddaughter full of sugar then send her home to your daughter as a hurricane of a child 😂",
">\n\nNot at all, it’s because they don’t have to deal with the 24/7 bullshit that kids inevitably come with.",
">\n\nI think it's more that when you're a parent, you're juggling work and home and not able to enjoy every little moment because you're worried about providing for your children. When you're a grandparent, you've had a good chunk of time to save as your kids are adults and don't require as much from you, so you're able to just enjoy grandparenting.\nI can't wait to be a grandparent.",
">\n\nIt’s because grandparents want to get what they want at all cost and think they’re superior to the parents and come first. So…. That’s why they only get the grandkid on a limited manner. You don’t get to mess up your kids then attempt to “make it better” with grand kids. You can’t “fix” what you did.",
">\n\nI think as a parent you look back at some of the things you thought were a big deal, and realize they weren’t a big deal. I noticed this with my second kid, and even more so now that I see my brother raising his kids (mine are adults).",
">\n\nMine aren't. Or if they are, good God was I mentally abused far more than I remember."
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No hard disagree. They have a different role based on the time spent with the children and not being required to reprimand them. Sure there might be some grandparents out there who’ve learned their own lessons on ‘yeah I’m a shit parent, ooops’ but ima b honest and that’s gotta be pretty damn rare out there in the world. Adults who are satisfied with who they are (good or absolute crap) rarely change. - just my 2 cents, I’m no expert.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.",
">\n\nI wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing. \nLuckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them.",
">\n\nNo it's because they just get the fun times. No waking them up/putting them to bed, you get their good moods etc, and most importantly when you're sick of em, you can fuck em off back to the parents.",
">\n\nAnd grandkids are about 5% their responsibility vs. the 100% their children were. Much less pressure and stress.",
">\n\nEvery generation goes through it. The grandparents pamper the grandkids. The grandkids are now spoiled, and their parents have to deal with them. Those parents were once kids, and those grandparents were the parents of those kids, and they went through it too because their own parents spoiled their kids. It's a form of inherited generational revenge.",
">\n\nor they did do their parenting right and actually raise/treat you better than your own mom/absent dad",
">\n\nGnaw, that aint it. When I don't have to be the disciplinarian and can just be the fun and playful adult, yer damn right I am gunna take that chance,",
">\n\nMy gran gave my mum some lovely advice when I had my daughter, \"You can spoil her but please remember who you're sending her back to at the end of the day, your own baby.\" \nEssentially, don't pump your granddaughter full of sugar then send her home to your daughter as a hurricane of a child 😂",
">\n\nNot at all, it’s because they don’t have to deal with the 24/7 bullshit that kids inevitably come with.",
">\n\nI think it's more that when you're a parent, you're juggling work and home and not able to enjoy every little moment because you're worried about providing for your children. When you're a grandparent, you've had a good chunk of time to save as your kids are adults and don't require as much from you, so you're able to just enjoy grandparenting.\nI can't wait to be a grandparent.",
">\n\nIt’s because grandparents want to get what they want at all cost and think they’re superior to the parents and come first. So…. That’s why they only get the grandkid on a limited manner. You don’t get to mess up your kids then attempt to “make it better” with grand kids. You can’t “fix” what you did.",
">\n\nI think as a parent you look back at some of the things you thought were a big deal, and realize they weren’t a big deal. I noticed this with my second kid, and even more so now that I see my brother raising his kids (mine are adults).",
">\n\nMine aren't. Or if they are, good God was I mentally abused far more than I remember.",
">\n\nA few years back I read a study about hormones changing in older males. They noted that testosterone (more aggressive) often decreased but that oxytocin (the love hormone) increased. They speculated that this was evolutionarily advantageous because it meant that grandparents would look after their grandchildren, allowing the parents to do their thing."
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That may be the case in your situation but there’s zero proof that’s the case the majority of the time. There are about 500 different reasons why grandparents do what they do.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.",
">\n\nI wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing. \nLuckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them.",
">\n\nNo it's because they just get the fun times. No waking them up/putting them to bed, you get their good moods etc, and most importantly when you're sick of em, you can fuck em off back to the parents.",
">\n\nAnd grandkids are about 5% their responsibility vs. the 100% their children were. Much less pressure and stress.",
">\n\nEvery generation goes through it. The grandparents pamper the grandkids. The grandkids are now spoiled, and their parents have to deal with them. Those parents were once kids, and those grandparents were the parents of those kids, and they went through it too because their own parents spoiled their kids. It's a form of inherited generational revenge.",
">\n\nor they did do their parenting right and actually raise/treat you better than your own mom/absent dad",
">\n\nGnaw, that aint it. When I don't have to be the disciplinarian and can just be the fun and playful adult, yer damn right I am gunna take that chance,",
">\n\nMy gran gave my mum some lovely advice when I had my daughter, \"You can spoil her but please remember who you're sending her back to at the end of the day, your own baby.\" \nEssentially, don't pump your granddaughter full of sugar then send her home to your daughter as a hurricane of a child 😂",
">\n\nNot at all, it’s because they don’t have to deal with the 24/7 bullshit that kids inevitably come with.",
">\n\nI think it's more that when you're a parent, you're juggling work and home and not able to enjoy every little moment because you're worried about providing for your children. When you're a grandparent, you've had a good chunk of time to save as your kids are adults and don't require as much from you, so you're able to just enjoy grandparenting.\nI can't wait to be a grandparent.",
">\n\nIt’s because grandparents want to get what they want at all cost and think they’re superior to the parents and come first. So…. That’s why they only get the grandkid on a limited manner. You don’t get to mess up your kids then attempt to “make it better” with grand kids. You can’t “fix” what you did.",
">\n\nI think as a parent you look back at some of the things you thought were a big deal, and realize they weren’t a big deal. I noticed this with my second kid, and even more so now that I see my brother raising his kids (mine are adults).",
">\n\nMine aren't. Or if they are, good God was I mentally abused far more than I remember.",
">\n\nA few years back I read a study about hormones changing in older males. They noted that testosterone (more aggressive) often decreased but that oxytocin (the love hormone) increased. They speculated that this was evolutionarily advantageous because it meant that grandparents would look after their grandchildren, allowing the parents to do their thing.",
">\n\nNo hard disagree. They have a different role based on the time spent with the children and not being required to reprimand them. Sure there might be some grandparents out there who’ve learned their own lessons on ‘yeah I’m a shit parent, ooops’ but ima b honest and that’s gotta be pretty damn rare out there in the world. Adults who are satisfied with who they are (good or absolute crap) rarely change. - just my 2 cents, I’m no expert."
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Raise your kids then spoil your grandkids, but if you spoil your kids, you will raise your grandkids
Its an old saying
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.",
">\n\nI wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing. \nLuckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them.",
">\n\nNo it's because they just get the fun times. No waking them up/putting them to bed, you get their good moods etc, and most importantly when you're sick of em, you can fuck em off back to the parents.",
">\n\nAnd grandkids are about 5% their responsibility vs. the 100% their children were. Much less pressure and stress.",
">\n\nEvery generation goes through it. The grandparents pamper the grandkids. The grandkids are now spoiled, and their parents have to deal with them. Those parents were once kids, and those grandparents were the parents of those kids, and they went through it too because their own parents spoiled their kids. It's a form of inherited generational revenge.",
">\n\nor they did do their parenting right and actually raise/treat you better than your own mom/absent dad",
">\n\nGnaw, that aint it. When I don't have to be the disciplinarian and can just be the fun and playful adult, yer damn right I am gunna take that chance,",
">\n\nMy gran gave my mum some lovely advice when I had my daughter, \"You can spoil her but please remember who you're sending her back to at the end of the day, your own baby.\" \nEssentially, don't pump your granddaughter full of sugar then send her home to your daughter as a hurricane of a child 😂",
">\n\nNot at all, it’s because they don’t have to deal with the 24/7 bullshit that kids inevitably come with.",
">\n\nI think it's more that when you're a parent, you're juggling work and home and not able to enjoy every little moment because you're worried about providing for your children. When you're a grandparent, you've had a good chunk of time to save as your kids are adults and don't require as much from you, so you're able to just enjoy grandparenting.\nI can't wait to be a grandparent.",
">\n\nIt’s because grandparents want to get what they want at all cost and think they’re superior to the parents and come first. So…. That’s why they only get the grandkid on a limited manner. You don’t get to mess up your kids then attempt to “make it better” with grand kids. You can’t “fix” what you did.",
">\n\nI think as a parent you look back at some of the things you thought were a big deal, and realize they weren’t a big deal. I noticed this with my second kid, and even more so now that I see my brother raising his kids (mine are adults).",
">\n\nMine aren't. Or if they are, good God was I mentally abused far more than I remember.",
">\n\nA few years back I read a study about hormones changing in older males. They noted that testosterone (more aggressive) often decreased but that oxytocin (the love hormone) increased. They speculated that this was evolutionarily advantageous because it meant that grandparents would look after their grandchildren, allowing the parents to do their thing.",
">\n\nNo hard disagree. They have a different role based on the time spent with the children and not being required to reprimand them. Sure there might be some grandparents out there who’ve learned their own lessons on ‘yeah I’m a shit parent, ooops’ but ima b honest and that’s gotta be pretty damn rare out there in the world. Adults who are satisfied with who they are (good or absolute crap) rarely change. - just my 2 cents, I’m no expert.",
">\n\nThat may be the case in your situation but there’s zero proof that’s the case the majority of the time. There are about 500 different reasons why grandparents do what they do."
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No, this is wrong. 99% of grandparents make good grandparents but would make terrible parents.
Having a grandparent spoil a grandchild and be overly nice is no problem. Have a parent do that and the kid will be a disaster. Spare the rod, spoil the child.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.",
">\n\nI wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing. \nLuckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them.",
">\n\nNo it's because they just get the fun times. No waking them up/putting them to bed, you get their good moods etc, and most importantly when you're sick of em, you can fuck em off back to the parents.",
">\n\nAnd grandkids are about 5% their responsibility vs. the 100% their children were. Much less pressure and stress.",
">\n\nEvery generation goes through it. The grandparents pamper the grandkids. The grandkids are now spoiled, and their parents have to deal with them. Those parents were once kids, and those grandparents were the parents of those kids, and they went through it too because their own parents spoiled their kids. It's a form of inherited generational revenge.",
">\n\nor they did do their parenting right and actually raise/treat you better than your own mom/absent dad",
">\n\nGnaw, that aint it. When I don't have to be the disciplinarian and can just be the fun and playful adult, yer damn right I am gunna take that chance,",
">\n\nMy gran gave my mum some lovely advice when I had my daughter, \"You can spoil her but please remember who you're sending her back to at the end of the day, your own baby.\" \nEssentially, don't pump your granddaughter full of sugar then send her home to your daughter as a hurricane of a child 😂",
">\n\nNot at all, it’s because they don’t have to deal with the 24/7 bullshit that kids inevitably come with.",
">\n\nI think it's more that when you're a parent, you're juggling work and home and not able to enjoy every little moment because you're worried about providing for your children. When you're a grandparent, you've had a good chunk of time to save as your kids are adults and don't require as much from you, so you're able to just enjoy grandparenting.\nI can't wait to be a grandparent.",
">\n\nIt’s because grandparents want to get what they want at all cost and think they’re superior to the parents and come first. So…. That’s why they only get the grandkid on a limited manner. You don’t get to mess up your kids then attempt to “make it better” with grand kids. You can’t “fix” what you did.",
">\n\nI think as a parent you look back at some of the things you thought were a big deal, and realize they weren’t a big deal. I noticed this with my second kid, and even more so now that I see my brother raising his kids (mine are adults).",
">\n\nMine aren't. Or if they are, good God was I mentally abused far more than I remember.",
">\n\nA few years back I read a study about hormones changing in older males. They noted that testosterone (more aggressive) often decreased but that oxytocin (the love hormone) increased. They speculated that this was evolutionarily advantageous because it meant that grandparents would look after their grandchildren, allowing the parents to do their thing.",
">\n\nNo hard disagree. They have a different role based on the time spent with the children and not being required to reprimand them. Sure there might be some grandparents out there who’ve learned their own lessons on ‘yeah I’m a shit parent, ooops’ but ima b honest and that’s gotta be pretty damn rare out there in the world. Adults who are satisfied with who they are (good or absolute crap) rarely change. - just my 2 cents, I’m no expert.",
">\n\nThat may be the case in your situation but there’s zero proof that’s the case the majority of the time. There are about 500 different reasons why grandparents do what they do.",
">\n\nRaise your kids then spoil your grandkids, but if you spoil your kids, you will raise your grandkids\nIts an old saying"
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They immediately deny it as well.
I call my mum out when she lets my kids do something I know I would have been in shit for and she’s like “ I never did that to you?”… selective memory..
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.",
">\n\nI wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing. \nLuckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them.",
">\n\nNo it's because they just get the fun times. No waking them up/putting them to bed, you get their good moods etc, and most importantly when you're sick of em, you can fuck em off back to the parents.",
">\n\nAnd grandkids are about 5% their responsibility vs. the 100% their children were. Much less pressure and stress.",
">\n\nEvery generation goes through it. The grandparents pamper the grandkids. The grandkids are now spoiled, and their parents have to deal with them. Those parents were once kids, and those grandparents were the parents of those kids, and they went through it too because their own parents spoiled their kids. It's a form of inherited generational revenge.",
">\n\nor they did do their parenting right and actually raise/treat you better than your own mom/absent dad",
">\n\nGnaw, that aint it. When I don't have to be the disciplinarian and can just be the fun and playful adult, yer damn right I am gunna take that chance,",
">\n\nMy gran gave my mum some lovely advice when I had my daughter, \"You can spoil her but please remember who you're sending her back to at the end of the day, your own baby.\" \nEssentially, don't pump your granddaughter full of sugar then send her home to your daughter as a hurricane of a child 😂",
">\n\nNot at all, it’s because they don’t have to deal with the 24/7 bullshit that kids inevitably come with.",
">\n\nI think it's more that when you're a parent, you're juggling work and home and not able to enjoy every little moment because you're worried about providing for your children. When you're a grandparent, you've had a good chunk of time to save as your kids are adults and don't require as much from you, so you're able to just enjoy grandparenting.\nI can't wait to be a grandparent.",
">\n\nIt’s because grandparents want to get what they want at all cost and think they’re superior to the parents and come first. So…. That’s why they only get the grandkid on a limited manner. You don’t get to mess up your kids then attempt to “make it better” with grand kids. You can’t “fix” what you did.",
">\n\nI think as a parent you look back at some of the things you thought were a big deal, and realize they weren’t a big deal. I noticed this with my second kid, and even more so now that I see my brother raising his kids (mine are adults).",
">\n\nMine aren't. Or if they are, good God was I mentally abused far more than I remember.",
">\n\nA few years back I read a study about hormones changing in older males. They noted that testosterone (more aggressive) often decreased but that oxytocin (the love hormone) increased. They speculated that this was evolutionarily advantageous because it meant that grandparents would look after their grandchildren, allowing the parents to do their thing.",
">\n\nNo hard disagree. They have a different role based on the time spent with the children and not being required to reprimand them. Sure there might be some grandparents out there who’ve learned their own lessons on ‘yeah I’m a shit parent, ooops’ but ima b honest and that’s gotta be pretty damn rare out there in the world. Adults who are satisfied with who they are (good or absolute crap) rarely change. - just my 2 cents, I’m no expert.",
">\n\nThat may be the case in your situation but there’s zero proof that’s the case the majority of the time. There are about 500 different reasons why grandparents do what they do.",
">\n\nRaise your kids then spoil your grandkids, but if you spoil your kids, you will raise your grandkids\nIts an old saying",
">\n\nNo, this is wrong. 99% of grandparents make good grandparents but would make terrible parents.\nHaving a grandparent spoil a grandchild and be overly nice is no problem. Have a parent do that and the kid will be a disaster. Spare the rod, spoil the child."
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Nope, it's going to be about the lack of responsibility of parenting. You can afford to indulge your grandchildren because it's not an all of the time thing that sets a bad precedent. If you did the same thing as a parent it would be bad parenting. And of course you need to not do things their parents don't want.
Not a grandparent yet but I'm looking forward to the time they can come visit and I can spend time with them without it being my full time job.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.",
">\n\nI wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing. \nLuckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them.",
">\n\nNo it's because they just get the fun times. No waking them up/putting them to bed, you get their good moods etc, and most importantly when you're sick of em, you can fuck em off back to the parents.",
">\n\nAnd grandkids are about 5% their responsibility vs. the 100% their children were. Much less pressure and stress.",
">\n\nEvery generation goes through it. The grandparents pamper the grandkids. The grandkids are now spoiled, and their parents have to deal with them. Those parents were once kids, and those grandparents were the parents of those kids, and they went through it too because their own parents spoiled their kids. It's a form of inherited generational revenge.",
">\n\nor they did do their parenting right and actually raise/treat you better than your own mom/absent dad",
">\n\nGnaw, that aint it. When I don't have to be the disciplinarian and can just be the fun and playful adult, yer damn right I am gunna take that chance,",
">\n\nMy gran gave my mum some lovely advice when I had my daughter, \"You can spoil her but please remember who you're sending her back to at the end of the day, your own baby.\" \nEssentially, don't pump your granddaughter full of sugar then send her home to your daughter as a hurricane of a child 😂",
">\n\nNot at all, it’s because they don’t have to deal with the 24/7 bullshit that kids inevitably come with.",
">\n\nI think it's more that when you're a parent, you're juggling work and home and not able to enjoy every little moment because you're worried about providing for your children. When you're a grandparent, you've had a good chunk of time to save as your kids are adults and don't require as much from you, so you're able to just enjoy grandparenting.\nI can't wait to be a grandparent.",
">\n\nIt’s because grandparents want to get what they want at all cost and think they’re superior to the parents and come first. So…. That’s why they only get the grandkid on a limited manner. You don’t get to mess up your kids then attempt to “make it better” with grand kids. You can’t “fix” what you did.",
">\n\nI think as a parent you look back at some of the things you thought were a big deal, and realize they weren’t a big deal. I noticed this with my second kid, and even more so now that I see my brother raising his kids (mine are adults).",
">\n\nMine aren't. Or if they are, good God was I mentally abused far more than I remember.",
">\n\nA few years back I read a study about hormones changing in older males. They noted that testosterone (more aggressive) often decreased but that oxytocin (the love hormone) increased. They speculated that this was evolutionarily advantageous because it meant that grandparents would look after their grandchildren, allowing the parents to do their thing.",
">\n\nNo hard disagree. They have a different role based on the time spent with the children and not being required to reprimand them. Sure there might be some grandparents out there who’ve learned their own lessons on ‘yeah I’m a shit parent, ooops’ but ima b honest and that’s gotta be pretty damn rare out there in the world. Adults who are satisfied with who they are (good or absolute crap) rarely change. - just my 2 cents, I’m no expert.",
">\n\nThat may be the case in your situation but there’s zero proof that’s the case the majority of the time. There are about 500 different reasons why grandparents do what they do.",
">\n\nRaise your kids then spoil your grandkids, but if you spoil your kids, you will raise your grandkids\nIts an old saying",
">\n\nNo, this is wrong. 99% of grandparents make good grandparents but would make terrible parents.\nHaving a grandparent spoil a grandchild and be overly nice is no problem. Have a parent do that and the kid will be a disaster. Spare the rod, spoil the child.",
">\n\nThey immediately deny it as well.\n I call my mum out when she lets my kids do something I know I would have been in shit for and she’s like “ I never did that to you?”… selective memory.."
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Currently wishing that was an universal rule. One of my grandparents simply takes all the harm done to their children as ego fuel. Now takes it all on me because I don't stay quiet when that person mistreats other family members.
And, in general, relatives who don't live with you daily treat you better. Living with your grandparents tends to be very different in treatment when you compare how other grandparents treat their grandchildren they don't live with.
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.",
">\n\nI wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing. \nLuckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them.",
">\n\nNo it's because they just get the fun times. No waking them up/putting them to bed, you get their good moods etc, and most importantly when you're sick of em, you can fuck em off back to the parents.",
">\n\nAnd grandkids are about 5% their responsibility vs. the 100% their children were. Much less pressure and stress.",
">\n\nEvery generation goes through it. The grandparents pamper the grandkids. The grandkids are now spoiled, and their parents have to deal with them. Those parents were once kids, and those grandparents were the parents of those kids, and they went through it too because their own parents spoiled their kids. It's a form of inherited generational revenge.",
">\n\nor they did do their parenting right and actually raise/treat you better than your own mom/absent dad",
">\n\nGnaw, that aint it. When I don't have to be the disciplinarian and can just be the fun and playful adult, yer damn right I am gunna take that chance,",
">\n\nMy gran gave my mum some lovely advice when I had my daughter, \"You can spoil her but please remember who you're sending her back to at the end of the day, your own baby.\" \nEssentially, don't pump your granddaughter full of sugar then send her home to your daughter as a hurricane of a child 😂",
">\n\nNot at all, it’s because they don’t have to deal with the 24/7 bullshit that kids inevitably come with.",
">\n\nI think it's more that when you're a parent, you're juggling work and home and not able to enjoy every little moment because you're worried about providing for your children. When you're a grandparent, you've had a good chunk of time to save as your kids are adults and don't require as much from you, so you're able to just enjoy grandparenting.\nI can't wait to be a grandparent.",
">\n\nIt’s because grandparents want to get what they want at all cost and think they’re superior to the parents and come first. So…. That’s why they only get the grandkid on a limited manner. You don’t get to mess up your kids then attempt to “make it better” with grand kids. You can’t “fix” what you did.",
">\n\nI think as a parent you look back at some of the things you thought were a big deal, and realize they weren’t a big deal. I noticed this with my second kid, and even more so now that I see my brother raising his kids (mine are adults).",
">\n\nMine aren't. Or if they are, good God was I mentally abused far more than I remember.",
">\n\nA few years back I read a study about hormones changing in older males. They noted that testosterone (more aggressive) often decreased but that oxytocin (the love hormone) increased. They speculated that this was evolutionarily advantageous because it meant that grandparents would look after their grandchildren, allowing the parents to do their thing.",
">\n\nNo hard disagree. They have a different role based on the time spent with the children and not being required to reprimand them. Sure there might be some grandparents out there who’ve learned their own lessons on ‘yeah I’m a shit parent, ooops’ but ima b honest and that’s gotta be pretty damn rare out there in the world. Adults who are satisfied with who they are (good or absolute crap) rarely change. - just my 2 cents, I’m no expert.",
">\n\nThat may be the case in your situation but there’s zero proof that’s the case the majority of the time. There are about 500 different reasons why grandparents do what they do.",
">\n\nRaise your kids then spoil your grandkids, but if you spoil your kids, you will raise your grandkids\nIts an old saying",
">\n\nNo, this is wrong. 99% of grandparents make good grandparents but would make terrible parents.\nHaving a grandparent spoil a grandchild and be overly nice is no problem. Have a parent do that and the kid will be a disaster. Spare the rod, spoil the child.",
">\n\nThey immediately deny it as well.\n I call my mum out when she lets my kids do something I know I would have been in shit for and she’s like “ I never did that to you?”… selective memory..",
">\n\nNope, it's going to be about the lack of responsibility of parenting. You can afford to indulge your grandchildren because it's not an all of the time thing that sets a bad precedent. If you did the same thing as a parent it would be bad parenting. And of course you need to not do things their parents don't want.\nNot a grandparent yet but I'm looking forward to the time they can come visit and I can spend time with them without it being my full time job."
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It’s because they know they’re getting old and they’re trying to get into heaven now 😂
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.",
">\n\nI wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing. \nLuckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them.",
">\n\nNo it's because they just get the fun times. No waking them up/putting them to bed, you get their good moods etc, and most importantly when you're sick of em, you can fuck em off back to the parents.",
">\n\nAnd grandkids are about 5% their responsibility vs. the 100% their children were. Much less pressure and stress.",
">\n\nEvery generation goes through it. The grandparents pamper the grandkids. The grandkids are now spoiled, and their parents have to deal with them. Those parents were once kids, and those grandparents were the parents of those kids, and they went through it too because their own parents spoiled their kids. It's a form of inherited generational revenge.",
">\n\nor they did do their parenting right and actually raise/treat you better than your own mom/absent dad",
">\n\nGnaw, that aint it. When I don't have to be the disciplinarian and can just be the fun and playful adult, yer damn right I am gunna take that chance,",
">\n\nMy gran gave my mum some lovely advice when I had my daughter, \"You can spoil her but please remember who you're sending her back to at the end of the day, your own baby.\" \nEssentially, don't pump your granddaughter full of sugar then send her home to your daughter as a hurricane of a child 😂",
">\n\nNot at all, it’s because they don’t have to deal with the 24/7 bullshit that kids inevitably come with.",
">\n\nI think it's more that when you're a parent, you're juggling work and home and not able to enjoy every little moment because you're worried about providing for your children. When you're a grandparent, you've had a good chunk of time to save as your kids are adults and don't require as much from you, so you're able to just enjoy grandparenting.\nI can't wait to be a grandparent.",
">\n\nIt’s because grandparents want to get what they want at all cost and think they’re superior to the parents and come first. So…. That’s why they only get the grandkid on a limited manner. You don’t get to mess up your kids then attempt to “make it better” with grand kids. You can’t “fix” what you did.",
">\n\nI think as a parent you look back at some of the things you thought were a big deal, and realize they weren’t a big deal. I noticed this with my second kid, and even more so now that I see my brother raising his kids (mine are adults).",
">\n\nMine aren't. Or if they are, good God was I mentally abused far more than I remember.",
">\n\nA few years back I read a study about hormones changing in older males. They noted that testosterone (more aggressive) often decreased but that oxytocin (the love hormone) increased. They speculated that this was evolutionarily advantageous because it meant that grandparents would look after their grandchildren, allowing the parents to do their thing.",
">\n\nNo hard disagree. They have a different role based on the time spent with the children and not being required to reprimand them. Sure there might be some grandparents out there who’ve learned their own lessons on ‘yeah I’m a shit parent, ooops’ but ima b honest and that’s gotta be pretty damn rare out there in the world. Adults who are satisfied with who they are (good or absolute crap) rarely change. - just my 2 cents, I’m no expert.",
">\n\nThat may be the case in your situation but there’s zero proof that’s the case the majority of the time. There are about 500 different reasons why grandparents do what they do.",
">\n\nRaise your kids then spoil your grandkids, but if you spoil your kids, you will raise your grandkids\nIts an old saying",
">\n\nNo, this is wrong. 99% of grandparents make good grandparents but would make terrible parents.\nHaving a grandparent spoil a grandchild and be overly nice is no problem. Have a parent do that and the kid will be a disaster. Spare the rod, spoil the child.",
">\n\nThey immediately deny it as well.\n I call my mum out when she lets my kids do something I know I would have been in shit for and she’s like “ I never did that to you?”… selective memory..",
">\n\nNope, it's going to be about the lack of responsibility of parenting. You can afford to indulge your grandchildren because it's not an all of the time thing that sets a bad precedent. If you did the same thing as a parent it would be bad parenting. And of course you need to not do things their parents don't want.\nNot a grandparent yet but I'm looking forward to the time they can come visit and I can spend time with them without it being my full time job.",
">\n\nCurrently wishing that was an universal rule. One of my grandparents simply takes all the harm done to their children as ego fuel. Now takes it all on me because I don't stay quiet when that person mistreats other family members.\nAnd, in general, relatives who don't live with you daily treat you better. Living with your grandparents tends to be very different in treatment when you compare how other grandparents treat their grandchildren they don't live with."
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Nahh, they don't have as much time with them and not the bulk of the responsibility.
It is way easier to stay relaxed that way and they are motivated to really use that time. (Also they are allowed to spoil the children a bit.)
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.",
">\n\nI wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing. \nLuckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them.",
">\n\nNo it's because they just get the fun times. No waking them up/putting them to bed, you get their good moods etc, and most importantly when you're sick of em, you can fuck em off back to the parents.",
">\n\nAnd grandkids are about 5% their responsibility vs. the 100% their children were. Much less pressure and stress.",
">\n\nEvery generation goes through it. The grandparents pamper the grandkids. The grandkids are now spoiled, and their parents have to deal with them. Those parents were once kids, and those grandparents were the parents of those kids, and they went through it too because their own parents spoiled their kids. It's a form of inherited generational revenge.",
">\n\nor they did do their parenting right and actually raise/treat you better than your own mom/absent dad",
">\n\nGnaw, that aint it. When I don't have to be the disciplinarian and can just be the fun and playful adult, yer damn right I am gunna take that chance,",
">\n\nMy gran gave my mum some lovely advice when I had my daughter, \"You can spoil her but please remember who you're sending her back to at the end of the day, your own baby.\" \nEssentially, don't pump your granddaughter full of sugar then send her home to your daughter as a hurricane of a child 😂",
">\n\nNot at all, it’s because they don’t have to deal with the 24/7 bullshit that kids inevitably come with.",
">\n\nI think it's more that when you're a parent, you're juggling work and home and not able to enjoy every little moment because you're worried about providing for your children. When you're a grandparent, you've had a good chunk of time to save as your kids are adults and don't require as much from you, so you're able to just enjoy grandparenting.\nI can't wait to be a grandparent.",
">\n\nIt’s because grandparents want to get what they want at all cost and think they’re superior to the parents and come first. So…. That’s why they only get the grandkid on a limited manner. You don’t get to mess up your kids then attempt to “make it better” with grand kids. You can’t “fix” what you did.",
">\n\nI think as a parent you look back at some of the things you thought were a big deal, and realize they weren’t a big deal. I noticed this with my second kid, and even more so now that I see my brother raising his kids (mine are adults).",
">\n\nMine aren't. Or if they are, good God was I mentally abused far more than I remember.",
">\n\nA few years back I read a study about hormones changing in older males. They noted that testosterone (more aggressive) often decreased but that oxytocin (the love hormone) increased. They speculated that this was evolutionarily advantageous because it meant that grandparents would look after their grandchildren, allowing the parents to do their thing.",
">\n\nNo hard disagree. They have a different role based on the time spent with the children and not being required to reprimand them. Sure there might be some grandparents out there who’ve learned their own lessons on ‘yeah I’m a shit parent, ooops’ but ima b honest and that’s gotta be pretty damn rare out there in the world. Adults who are satisfied with who they are (good or absolute crap) rarely change. - just my 2 cents, I’m no expert.",
">\n\nThat may be the case in your situation but there’s zero proof that’s the case the majority of the time. There are about 500 different reasons why grandparents do what they do.",
">\n\nRaise your kids then spoil your grandkids, but if you spoil your kids, you will raise your grandkids\nIts an old saying",
">\n\nNo, this is wrong. 99% of grandparents make good grandparents but would make terrible parents.\nHaving a grandparent spoil a grandchild and be overly nice is no problem. Have a parent do that and the kid will be a disaster. Spare the rod, spoil the child.",
">\n\nThey immediately deny it as well.\n I call my mum out when she lets my kids do something I know I would have been in shit for and she’s like “ I never did that to you?”… selective memory..",
">\n\nNope, it's going to be about the lack of responsibility of parenting. You can afford to indulge your grandchildren because it's not an all of the time thing that sets a bad precedent. If you did the same thing as a parent it would be bad parenting. And of course you need to not do things their parents don't want.\nNot a grandparent yet but I'm looking forward to the time they can come visit and I can spend time with them without it being my full time job.",
">\n\nCurrently wishing that was an universal rule. One of my grandparents simply takes all the harm done to their children as ego fuel. Now takes it all on me because I don't stay quiet when that person mistreats other family members.\nAnd, in general, relatives who don't live with you daily treat you better. Living with your grandparents tends to be very different in treatment when you compare how other grandparents treat their grandchildren they don't live with.",
">\n\nIt’s because they know they’re getting old and they’re trying to get into heaven now 😂"
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">\n\nI think it’s just that they get all the rewards (love, fun, cute kids) and none of the responsibilities (discipline, 24/7 care, paying for everything and being stressed out at all times). Grandma can watch the kids for a weekend but then they go back to their parents and gma gets to rest.",
">\n\nKids also save their “worse” behavior for their parents, who they feel most comfortable with.",
">\n\nThis is also why i like strangers pointing out bad behavior too my kids. Because my kids are testing my boundaries and pushing limits, if i tell them of, it won't have huge effect, if a stranger does it, the kids don't know what to do and stop. At least my kids.\nIt takes a village to raise a child.",
">\n\nSo I need to start shouting at misbehaving kids in public? I'll be right on it.",
">\n\nDepends, if the parents behaving like their children, then i think you will get yelled at from the parents.",
">\n\nNo. Lol, it's because they can give them back at the end of the day. They can just do the fun stuff without the stress. I can't wait to be a granny one day.",
">\n\nNewish Grandpa here, straight-up enjoying the terrible twos with 2 grand-babies that we see quite often. We just want the time we spend with them to be enjoyable for us and them, and disciplining them or denying them whatever they want just seriously ain't no fun! My wife, bless her heart... she is intent on spoiling them rotten. Pops still tries to keep it real, to a point anyways.",
">\n\nNot just that but also being able to parent without stress tends to make people more relaxed.",
">\n\nThis is it. Grandparents who are not primary caregivers don't have to think about the child's college fund, insurance coverage, the money needed for next semesters band trip. They aren't the ones waiting up until 2 a.m. when someone breaks curfew or cleaning all the messes left around the house daily. It's much easier to be sweet and gentle when you aren't carrying all the responsibilities. With that being said, some grandparents do all of this, God bless em.\nAlso responsibility and stress do not justify being a twat to your children so consider this an explanation not an excuse.",
">\n\nWhy should you have to justify being a twat to your children? You can do it just for funsies.",
">\n\nDo you want your kids to develop a complex? 'Cause that's how kids develop a complex.",
">\n\nI mean, they wouldn't be normal without one",
">\n\nThey are just chill because their patience reservoir has had time to refill, and they know that they can leave anytime with no responsibility.",
">\n\nNot that it's had time to refill, so much as their \"give-a-shit\"ometer has been eroded over the years.",
">\n\nNope. The time demands, financial demands, and lack of experience have been repaired by that point. (Unless you become a grandparent in your early 30's.)",
">\n\nI don’t believe that’s what it is. For starters just about everyone gets mellower with age. Secondly - grandparents don’t usually watch a grandkid 24/7/365 so it’s easier to muster the patience.",
">\n\nI agree with you. Mainly that they are more mellow as they get older. I've heard stories of my parents getting their ass kicked and so have I. But idt I've ever seen my grandparents or parents get angry to that extent",
">\n\nNah grandparents and grandkids get along because they have a common enemy.",
">\n\nMaybe partially....for some. But the only reason? For all? Definitely not.",
">\n\nNah, it's because they're not parenting the grandkids. As they shouldn't be (unless said child is in their custody). The parents are parenting. The grandparents are helping but do not have a say in the decisions, ultimately.",
">\n\nThe saying “you raise your kids and spoil your grandchildren or you spoil your kids and raise your grandchildren” is pretty apt here. When I drop my kid off at grandma’s my rules don’t apply. Grandma can give you as much ice cream as you can handle and let you watch as much tv as possible. I may not like it but that’s grandmas time to shine and I want my kid to love grandma and think of grandmas house like a vacation from dad with all the rules.",
">\n\nTake care of your kids now so that you can spoil your grandkids later. Spoil your kids now and you'll end up taking care of your grandkids later.",
">\n\nWhat absolute outrageous complete bullshit. I would suspect that grandparents are affectionate with grandchildren for a wide variety of reasons. Making up for past transgressions is certainly true for some the fact that babies are cute is another. Have you considered that some people are just affectionate?",
">\n\nClearly you have not observed a grandparent fall into the petty disappointment that a 3 year old did not provide a suitably appreciative gift at Christmas. Humans can be irrational. Emotions are sticky. Humans stick them to scenarios the emotion does not apply.",
">\n\nNo it's because when they have had enough they can return them :P",
">\n\nAs a grandmother, I can tell you it's because children are full of joy and hope. We enjoy their laughter, curiosity, and desire to learn. They listen when we talk. We both walk slow and forget things. A match made in heaven. 😁",
">\n\nRaise your kids so you can spoil the grandkids. \nSpoil the kids and you’ll raise the grand kids.",
">\n\nThis seems very specific and personal, and it has not been my experience at all.",
">\n\nAlso because they're older and wiser; that can happen as you age, too. They also may have less stress about budding careers, etc, since presumably they are well into their career or retired by the time they've got grandkids.",
">\n\nNot the case with me at all. I take great joy in watching my grandkids do to their parents what their parents did to me.",
">\n\nLOL.\n\nGrandparents are more gentle and relaxed to their grandkids, because\n\nthey can give the little snotty noses back to the parents when they become exhausting...",
">\n\nMy Theorie is that its no longer their kid so they have to treat it better or there would be consequenses",
">\n\nIt worked for me. Totally helped me and my moms relationship that she was such a great grandma despite sucking as a mom.",
">\n\nThat is great. Mine sucked at both!",
">\n\nI remember that there is also a correlation with age as statically younger parents are stricter than older ones. This might also include bigger stress levels for younger parents due to social factors such as careers and lack of savings, for older parents these factors impact them less.",
">\n\nMy grandma was certainly different. She was more strict than my mom. Absolutely no goofing off until you're done with these chores I came up with that you don't normally have to do! Every surface of the house needs dusting! You didn't clean the table well enough, I can see a spot here, and here, and here, and here... I know you just got every spot I pointed to but do it again, it still looks dirty! Why don't you like when I come to babysit?\nMeanwhile, my mom: you either take out the trash, or you do the dishes. Your sister will do the other. I don't care who does what as long as it gets done, I'm not gonna micro manage. You can go play when you're done.",
">\n\nHow about, because they get to send them home at the end of the day.",
">\n\nNonsense. It's because they get to enjoy time with young people again but without the responsibility of shaping their character. Being a parent is so, so, stressful. Being an auntie or grandma is just a matter of giving love.",
">\n\nFor me it was that my parents used discipline while my Grammy used rewards.\nIt wasn't \"be good at K Mart or else\". It was \"if you kids stay with Grammy you can get a candy bar on the way out\"",
">\n\nWhen the grandparents start getting frustrated with the kid they can just hand him back to his parents.",
">\n\nMy mom loads my kids with stuff we don't allow but it's all good",
">\n\nThat’s a quote from marge simpson in that one episode in the future.",
">\n\nGlad your parents changed.\nMine treat grandkids as kids and attempt to parent them in the same shitty ways they attempted to parent us.",
">\n\nOr because they know that it's not their responsibility really. \nThink of having a pet but you're not the one responsible. You get all the good without the bad.",
">\n\ni actually overheard my grandparents talking about how they screwed up with their kids so they have to do better with us…at that time it was specifically my younger brother/cousins.",
">\n\n1000000% true for my grandma and 25% true for my great grandma",
">\n\nI think grandparents are nicer to their grandkids because their grandkids don't piss them off as much as their kids did. My mom straight up said she loves her granddaughter more than me because her granddaughter hasn't done anything to make her mad yet.",
">\n\nAs a parent of two almost adults I find I am a lot different now to how I was when they were younger. Partly age plays a part, as you leave insecurity behind you are more willing and able to be kind. Also I have less stress in my life financially and from a career perspective. Finally little kids are utter shits that would try the patience of a saint and my theory is this is the reason holy men must remain celibate. Aint no one being calm and enlightened with a toddler about.",
">\n\nIt's more likely that there are no consequences. Load them up on junk food and overstimulate them then send them home to Mom and Dad is just a little payback for the privilege of living so long.",
">\n\nNah, we're just in a mellower age, without the stress of trying to educate half decent human beings. Also, it's just less work letting things come and go.",
">\n\nNo, it's because seeing a grandparents typically don't have to form a kid into a functional adult.",
">\n\nI wish my parents would try to make up for some of their bad parenting to get along with my kids. Instead, they just became shitty, judgmental grandparents and didn’t learn a thing. \nLuckily, I watched them and did the opposite so my kids and I get along well. They’re fantastic people. It’s sad my parents are missing out on knowing them.",
">\n\nNo it's because they just get the fun times. No waking them up/putting them to bed, you get their good moods etc, and most importantly when you're sick of em, you can fuck em off back to the parents.",
">\n\nAnd grandkids are about 5% their responsibility vs. the 100% their children were. Much less pressure and stress.",
">\n\nEvery generation goes through it. The grandparents pamper the grandkids. The grandkids are now spoiled, and their parents have to deal with them. Those parents were once kids, and those grandparents were the parents of those kids, and they went through it too because their own parents spoiled their kids. It's a form of inherited generational revenge.",
">\n\nor they did do their parenting right and actually raise/treat you better than your own mom/absent dad",
">\n\nGnaw, that aint it. When I don't have to be the disciplinarian and can just be the fun and playful adult, yer damn right I am gunna take that chance,",
">\n\nMy gran gave my mum some lovely advice when I had my daughter, \"You can spoil her but please remember who you're sending her back to at the end of the day, your own baby.\" \nEssentially, don't pump your granddaughter full of sugar then send her home to your daughter as a hurricane of a child 😂",
">\n\nNot at all, it’s because they don’t have to deal with the 24/7 bullshit that kids inevitably come with.",
">\n\nI think it's more that when you're a parent, you're juggling work and home and not able to enjoy every little moment because you're worried about providing for your children. When you're a grandparent, you've had a good chunk of time to save as your kids are adults and don't require as much from you, so you're able to just enjoy grandparenting.\nI can't wait to be a grandparent.",
">\n\nIt’s because grandparents want to get what they want at all cost and think they’re superior to the parents and come first. So…. That’s why they only get the grandkid on a limited manner. You don’t get to mess up your kids then attempt to “make it better” with grand kids. You can’t “fix” what you did.",
">\n\nI think as a parent you look back at some of the things you thought were a big deal, and realize they weren’t a big deal. I noticed this with my second kid, and even more so now that I see my brother raising his kids (mine are adults).",
">\n\nMine aren't. Or if they are, good God was I mentally abused far more than I remember.",
">\n\nA few years back I read a study about hormones changing in older males. They noted that testosterone (more aggressive) often decreased but that oxytocin (the love hormone) increased. They speculated that this was evolutionarily advantageous because it meant that grandparents would look after their grandchildren, allowing the parents to do their thing.",
">\n\nNo hard disagree. They have a different role based on the time spent with the children and not being required to reprimand them. Sure there might be some grandparents out there who’ve learned their own lessons on ‘yeah I’m a shit parent, ooops’ but ima b honest and that’s gotta be pretty damn rare out there in the world. Adults who are satisfied with who they are (good or absolute crap) rarely change. - just my 2 cents, I’m no expert.",
">\n\nThat may be the case in your situation but there’s zero proof that’s the case the majority of the time. There are about 500 different reasons why grandparents do what they do.",
">\n\nRaise your kids then spoil your grandkids, but if you spoil your kids, you will raise your grandkids\nIts an old saying",
">\n\nNo, this is wrong. 99% of grandparents make good grandparents but would make terrible parents.\nHaving a grandparent spoil a grandchild and be overly nice is no problem. Have a parent do that and the kid will be a disaster. Spare the rod, spoil the child.",
">\n\nThey immediately deny it as well.\n I call my mum out when she lets my kids do something I know I would have been in shit for and she’s like “ I never did that to you?”… selective memory..",
">\n\nNope, it's going to be about the lack of responsibility of parenting. You can afford to indulge your grandchildren because it's not an all of the time thing that sets a bad precedent. If you did the same thing as a parent it would be bad parenting. And of course you need to not do things their parents don't want.\nNot a grandparent yet but I'm looking forward to the time they can come visit and I can spend time with them without it being my full time job.",
">\n\nCurrently wishing that was an universal rule. One of my grandparents simply takes all the harm done to their children as ego fuel. Now takes it all on me because I don't stay quiet when that person mistreats other family members.\nAnd, in general, relatives who don't live with you daily treat you better. Living with your grandparents tends to be very different in treatment when you compare how other grandparents treat their grandchildren they don't live with.",
">\n\nIt’s because they know they’re getting old and they’re trying to get into heaven now 😂",
">\n\nNahh, they don't have as much time with them and not the bulk of the responsibility.\nIt is way easier to stay relaxed that way and they are motivated to really use that time. (Also they are allowed to spoil the children a bit.)"
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won't be surprised if there's Chinese involvement in this. Chinese companies control most of the casinos in Cambodia. Gambling is illegal in China, so Cambodia is seen as a safe haven by Chinese companies and Chinese citizens, all of this is done with the blessing of CCP. Just look up Sihanoukville
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"won't be surprised if there's Chinese involvement in this. Chinese companies control most of the casinos in Cambodia. Gambling is illegal in China, so Cambodia is seen as a safe haven by Chinese companies and Chinese citizens, all of this is done with the blessing of CCP. Just look up Sihanoukville"
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The man got $750,000 in campaign donations he passed off as his own money and reported it as his own money. That’s fraud no matter how you slice it. That it reportedly came from a Putin ally is the least surprising revelation.
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Also please correct me if I'm spreading Reddit rumors, but didn't he also not live at the address he put down for his paperwork? That has to be illegal in some way.
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"The man got $750,000 in campaign donations he passed off as his own money and reported it as his own money. That’s fraud no matter how you slice it. That it reportedly came from a Putin ally is the least surprising revelation."
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You'd think so, wouldn't you? Turns out our democracy has been held together by rubber bands and gentleman's agreements this entire time.
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"The man got $750,000 in campaign donations he passed off as his own money and reported it as his own money. That’s fraud no matter how you slice it. That it reportedly came from a Putin ally is the least surprising revelation.",
">\n\nAlso please correct me if I'm spreading Reddit rumors, but didn't he also not live at the address he put down for his paperwork? That has to be illegal in some way."
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That works when politicians are, at their core, gentlemen (or gentlewomen). This batch of Red-Hatted Frauds is not.
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[
"The man got $750,000 in campaign donations he passed off as his own money and reported it as his own money. That’s fraud no matter how you slice it. That it reportedly came from a Putin ally is the least surprising revelation.",
">\n\nAlso please correct me if I'm spreading Reddit rumors, but didn't he also not live at the address he put down for his paperwork? That has to be illegal in some way.",
">\n\nYou'd think so, wouldn't you? Turns out our democracy has been held together by rubber bands and gentleman's agreements this entire time."
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and he's admittedly been to Moscow many times....wonder where that 700K came from?
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[
"The man got $750,000 in campaign donations he passed off as his own money and reported it as his own money. That’s fraud no matter how you slice it. That it reportedly came from a Putin ally is the least surprising revelation.",
">\n\nAlso please correct me if I'm spreading Reddit rumors, but didn't he also not live at the address he put down for his paperwork? That has to be illegal in some way.",
">\n\nYou'd think so, wouldn't you? Turns out our democracy has been held together by rubber bands and gentleman's agreements this entire time.",
">\n\nThat works when politicians are, at their core, gentlemen (or gentlewomen). This batch of Red-Hatted Frauds is not."
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Sounds good to me
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[
"The man got $750,000 in campaign donations he passed off as his own money and reported it as his own money. That’s fraud no matter how you slice it. That it reportedly came from a Putin ally is the least surprising revelation.",
">\n\nAlso please correct me if I'm spreading Reddit rumors, but didn't he also not live at the address he put down for his paperwork? That has to be illegal in some way.",
">\n\nYou'd think so, wouldn't you? Turns out our democracy has been held together by rubber bands and gentleman's agreements this entire time.",
">\n\nThat works when politicians are, at their core, gentlemen (or gentlewomen). This batch of Red-Hatted Frauds is not.",
">\n\nand he's admittedly been to Moscow many times....wonder where that 700K came from?"
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Me too, he makes shit up. Why not make shit up about him? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.But wouldn’t shock me if the Russians got to him.
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[
"The man got $750,000 in campaign donations he passed off as his own money and reported it as his own money. That’s fraud no matter how you slice it. That it reportedly came from a Putin ally is the least surprising revelation.",
">\n\nAlso please correct me if I'm spreading Reddit rumors, but didn't he also not live at the address he put down for his paperwork? That has to be illegal in some way.",
">\n\nYou'd think so, wouldn't you? Turns out our democracy has been held together by rubber bands and gentleman's agreements this entire time.",
">\n\nThat works when politicians are, at their core, gentlemen (or gentlewomen). This batch of Red-Hatted Frauds is not.",
">\n\nand he's admittedly been to Moscow many times....wonder where that 700K came from?",
">\n\nSounds good to me"
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I remember seeing something that said he's made several trips to Moscow so I wouldn't be surprised.
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[
"The man got $750,000 in campaign donations he passed off as his own money and reported it as his own money. That’s fraud no matter how you slice it. That it reportedly came from a Putin ally is the least surprising revelation.",
">\n\nAlso please correct me if I'm spreading Reddit rumors, but didn't he also not live at the address he put down for his paperwork? That has to be illegal in some way.",
">\n\nYou'd think so, wouldn't you? Turns out our democracy has been held together by rubber bands and gentleman's agreements this entire time.",
">\n\nThat works when politicians are, at their core, gentlemen (or gentlewomen). This batch of Red-Hatted Frauds is not.",
">\n\nand he's admittedly been to Moscow many times....wonder where that 700K came from?",
">\n\nSounds good to me",
">\n\nMe too, he makes shit up. Why not make shit up about him? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.But wouldn’t shock me if the Russians got to him."
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Wait, so I can file the paperwork to run as a candidate for congress under the banner of one of two major national parties, win the primary, win the general and nobody will verify any of my personal bio that I've put forward until after I've won?
Crazy that being submitted to a basic background check isn't part of the process for running and journalists aren't doing them independently trying to sniff out liars for stories and articles before elections. Why wait until now to look into these things?
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[
"The man got $750,000 in campaign donations he passed off as his own money and reported it as his own money. That’s fraud no matter how you slice it. That it reportedly came from a Putin ally is the least surprising revelation.",
">\n\nAlso please correct me if I'm spreading Reddit rumors, but didn't he also not live at the address he put down for his paperwork? That has to be illegal in some way.",
">\n\nYou'd think so, wouldn't you? Turns out our democracy has been held together by rubber bands and gentleman's agreements this entire time.",
">\n\nThat works when politicians are, at their core, gentlemen (or gentlewomen). This batch of Red-Hatted Frauds is not.",
">\n\nand he's admittedly been to Moscow many times....wonder where that 700K came from?",
">\n\nSounds good to me",
">\n\nMe too, he makes shit up. Why not make shit up about him? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.But wouldn’t shock me if the Russians got to him.",
">\n\nI remember seeing something that said he's made several trips to Moscow so I wouldn't be surprised."
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A weekly newspaper reported on a lot of it in October, but no one else picked it up. (Including his opponent.)
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[
"The man got $750,000 in campaign donations he passed off as his own money and reported it as his own money. That’s fraud no matter how you slice it. That it reportedly came from a Putin ally is the least surprising revelation.",
">\n\nAlso please correct me if I'm spreading Reddit rumors, but didn't he also not live at the address he put down for his paperwork? That has to be illegal in some way.",
">\n\nYou'd think so, wouldn't you? Turns out our democracy has been held together by rubber bands and gentleman's agreements this entire time.",
">\n\nThat works when politicians are, at their core, gentlemen (or gentlewomen). This batch of Red-Hatted Frauds is not.",
">\n\nand he's admittedly been to Moscow many times....wonder where that 700K came from?",
">\n\nSounds good to me",
">\n\nMe too, he makes shit up. Why not make shit up about him? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.But wouldn’t shock me if the Russians got to him.",
">\n\nI remember seeing something that said he's made several trips to Moscow so I wouldn't be surprised.",
">\n\nWait, so I can file the paperwork to run as a candidate for congress under the banner of one of two major national parties, win the primary, win the general and nobody will verify any of my personal bio that I've put forward until after I've won? \nCrazy that being submitted to a basic background check isn't part of the process for running and journalists aren't doing them independently trying to sniff out liars for stories and articles before elections. Why wait until now to look into these things?"
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100% he'll get busted for wire fraud. Slam dunk prosecution.
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[
"The man got $750,000 in campaign donations he passed off as his own money and reported it as his own money. That’s fraud no matter how you slice it. That it reportedly came from a Putin ally is the least surprising revelation.",
">\n\nAlso please correct me if I'm spreading Reddit rumors, but didn't he also not live at the address he put down for his paperwork? That has to be illegal in some way.",
">\n\nYou'd think so, wouldn't you? Turns out our democracy has been held together by rubber bands and gentleman's agreements this entire time.",
">\n\nThat works when politicians are, at their core, gentlemen (or gentlewomen). This batch of Red-Hatted Frauds is not.",
">\n\nand he's admittedly been to Moscow many times....wonder where that 700K came from?",
">\n\nSounds good to me",
">\n\nMe too, he makes shit up. Why not make shit up about him? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.But wouldn’t shock me if the Russians got to him.",
">\n\nI remember seeing something that said he's made several trips to Moscow so I wouldn't be surprised.",
">\n\nWait, so I can file the paperwork to run as a candidate for congress under the banner of one of two major national parties, win the primary, win the general and nobody will verify any of my personal bio that I've put forward until after I've won? \nCrazy that being submitted to a basic background check isn't part of the process for running and journalists aren't doing them independently trying to sniff out liars for stories and articles before elections. Why wait until now to look into these things?",
">\n\nA weekly newspaper reported on a lot of it in October, but no one else picked it up. (Including his opponent.)"
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It seems impossible to me that they won't find something criminal. He's reckless, deceitful, stupid and obviously highly immoral. Kind of a bad combination if you're looking to stay out of prison. If he were a billionaire maybe but he's not anywhere close to that.
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[
"The man got $750,000 in campaign donations he passed off as his own money and reported it as his own money. That’s fraud no matter how you slice it. That it reportedly came from a Putin ally is the least surprising revelation.",
">\n\nAlso please correct me if I'm spreading Reddit rumors, but didn't he also not live at the address he put down for his paperwork? That has to be illegal in some way.",
">\n\nYou'd think so, wouldn't you? Turns out our democracy has been held together by rubber bands and gentleman's agreements this entire time.",
">\n\nThat works when politicians are, at their core, gentlemen (or gentlewomen). This batch of Red-Hatted Frauds is not.",
">\n\nand he's admittedly been to Moscow many times....wonder where that 700K came from?",
">\n\nSounds good to me",
">\n\nMe too, he makes shit up. Why not make shit up about him? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.But wouldn’t shock me if the Russians got to him.",
">\n\nI remember seeing something that said he's made several trips to Moscow so I wouldn't be surprised.",
">\n\nWait, so I can file the paperwork to run as a candidate for congress under the banner of one of two major national parties, win the primary, win the general and nobody will verify any of my personal bio that I've put forward until after I've won? \nCrazy that being submitted to a basic background check isn't part of the process for running and journalists aren't doing them independently trying to sniff out liars for stories and articles before elections. Why wait until now to look into these things?",
">\n\nA weekly newspaper reported on a lot of it in October, but no one else picked it up. (Including his opponent.)",
">\n\n100% he'll get busted for wire fraud. Slam dunk prosecution."
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Oh lying is a crime now? After the last 6 years? Lord take me, I’m ready when you are.
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[
"The man got $750,000 in campaign donations he passed off as his own money and reported it as his own money. That’s fraud no matter how you slice it. That it reportedly came from a Putin ally is the least surprising revelation.",
">\n\nAlso please correct me if I'm spreading Reddit rumors, but didn't he also not live at the address he put down for his paperwork? That has to be illegal in some way.",
">\n\nYou'd think so, wouldn't you? Turns out our democracy has been held together by rubber bands and gentleman's agreements this entire time.",
">\n\nThat works when politicians are, at their core, gentlemen (or gentlewomen). This batch of Red-Hatted Frauds is not.",
">\n\nand he's admittedly been to Moscow many times....wonder where that 700K came from?",
">\n\nSounds good to me",
">\n\nMe too, he makes shit up. Why not make shit up about him? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.But wouldn’t shock me if the Russians got to him.",
">\n\nI remember seeing something that said he's made several trips to Moscow so I wouldn't be surprised.",
">\n\nWait, so I can file the paperwork to run as a candidate for congress under the banner of one of two major national parties, win the primary, win the general and nobody will verify any of my personal bio that I've put forward until after I've won? \nCrazy that being submitted to a basic background check isn't part of the process for running and journalists aren't doing them independently trying to sniff out liars for stories and articles before elections. Why wait until now to look into these things?",
">\n\nA weekly newspaper reported on a lot of it in October, but no one else picked it up. (Including his opponent.)",
">\n\n100% he'll get busted for wire fraud. Slam dunk prosecution.",
">\n\nIt seems impossible to me that they won't find something criminal. He's reckless, deceitful, stupid and obviously highly immoral. Kind of a bad combination if you're looking to stay out of prison. If he were a billionaire maybe but he's not anywhere close to that."
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r/noahgettheboat
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[
"The man got $750,000 in campaign donations he passed off as his own money and reported it as his own money. That’s fraud no matter how you slice it. That it reportedly came from a Putin ally is the least surprising revelation.",
">\n\nAlso please correct me if I'm spreading Reddit rumors, but didn't he also not live at the address he put down for his paperwork? That has to be illegal in some way.",
">\n\nYou'd think so, wouldn't you? Turns out our democracy has been held together by rubber bands and gentleman's agreements this entire time.",
">\n\nThat works when politicians are, at their core, gentlemen (or gentlewomen). This batch of Red-Hatted Frauds is not.",
">\n\nand he's admittedly been to Moscow many times....wonder where that 700K came from?",
">\n\nSounds good to me",
">\n\nMe too, he makes shit up. Why not make shit up about him? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.But wouldn’t shock me if the Russians got to him.",
">\n\nI remember seeing something that said he's made several trips to Moscow so I wouldn't be surprised.",
">\n\nWait, so I can file the paperwork to run as a candidate for congress under the banner of one of two major national parties, win the primary, win the general and nobody will verify any of my personal bio that I've put forward until after I've won? \nCrazy that being submitted to a basic background check isn't part of the process for running and journalists aren't doing them independently trying to sniff out liars for stories and articles before elections. Why wait until now to look into these things?",
">\n\nA weekly newspaper reported on a lot of it in October, but no one else picked it up. (Including his opponent.)",
">\n\n100% he'll get busted for wire fraud. Slam dunk prosecution.",
">\n\nIt seems impossible to me that they won't find something criminal. He's reckless, deceitful, stupid and obviously highly immoral. Kind of a bad combination if you're looking to stay out of prison. If he were a billionaire maybe but he's not anywhere close to that.",
">\n\nOh lying is a crime now? After the last 6 years? Lord take me, I’m ready when you are."
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