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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.",
">\n\nAlso, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha.",
">\n\nI knew it! I tell people, because I’m not that attractive, I can’t get any dates. But they try to tell me that looks don’t matter. Oh shit, looks don’t matter. I mean, I know I know Channing Tatum, but apparently I’m not even average. Because even the average people get dates. Not me.",
">\n\nGotta get the foot in the door before you can make your sales pitch. I agree with OP, being physically attractive to a potential date is the most important thing. You can be a lovely person but if you don’t get a first date than nobody will ever know.",
">\n\nAre you insecure about your looks? Practice loving yourself!",
">\n\nHow will that make girls stop calling me ugly?",
">\n\nWomen are attracted to more than just looks. If you’re ugly then learn how to be funny",
">\n\n“Unpopular Opinion “ is full of this dumb, trite moaning.",
">\n\nAbsolutely, some people may say personality is more important to have a long term relationship, however in order to have one you need to attract the person first.\nIt doesn't matter how attractive is your personality, if you don't attract someone at first place you won't have a relationship.",
">\n\nI agree. I’m perpetually single because I’m not attractive to girls the same way I’ve too rejected some girls because I wasn’t physically attracted to them. Whoever says this is shallow behavior is just an elitist prick that is too immersed in their hypocrisy to realize they’d do the same exact thing. Humans like what they like. I’m not gonna feel bad about desiring an attractive girl the same way a girl shouldn’t feel bad about desiring an attractive male.",
">\n\nMost correct answer yet you’re at the bottom",
">\n\nClarification\nIf you are a woman that is what is valued other traits are valued higher than that in men\nMoney intelligence and humor all completely outclass physical attractiveness for men when it comes to dating",
">\n\nFor me even if I’m not initially attracted to a woman physically, if I fall in love with her personality, that could change and she’ll become the most beautiful woman in the world to me. That’s happened before.",
">\n\nif you dont look good just wear a fedora und greet her always with ma lady",
">\n\nMostly unattractive person here: if I can get a date and through the first date I win based on personality. The tough part is dating when you’re younger is based almost entirely on looks on the front end.",
">\n\nIt’s very important in dating in the sense that it gets your foot in the door a lot easier. It doesn’t do as much for the longevity of a relationship though. You can look like a Greek god and still have no luck finding a long term relationship due to a plethora of personality issues. Hell, some attractive people are terrible conversationalists and that sort of thing hurts their dating prospects greatly in any place that’s not a bar full of drunks.",
">\n\nisnt this like the most popular opinion ever?"
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.",
">\n\nAlso, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha.",
">\n\nI knew it! I tell people, because I’m not that attractive, I can’t get any dates. But they try to tell me that looks don’t matter. Oh shit, looks don’t matter. I mean, I know I know Channing Tatum, but apparently I’m not even average. Because even the average people get dates. Not me.",
">\n\nGotta get the foot in the door before you can make your sales pitch. I agree with OP, being physically attractive to a potential date is the most important thing. You can be a lovely person but if you don’t get a first date than nobody will ever know.",
">\n\nAre you insecure about your looks? Practice loving yourself!",
">\n\nHow will that make girls stop calling me ugly?",
">\n\nWomen are attracted to more than just looks. If you’re ugly then learn how to be funny",
">\n\n“Unpopular Opinion “ is full of this dumb, trite moaning.",
">\n\nAbsolutely, some people may say personality is more important to have a long term relationship, however in order to have one you need to attract the person first.\nIt doesn't matter how attractive is your personality, if you don't attract someone at first place you won't have a relationship.",
">\n\nI agree. I’m perpetually single because I’m not attractive to girls the same way I’ve too rejected some girls because I wasn’t physically attracted to them. Whoever says this is shallow behavior is just an elitist prick that is too immersed in their hypocrisy to realize they’d do the same exact thing. Humans like what they like. I’m not gonna feel bad about desiring an attractive girl the same way a girl shouldn’t feel bad about desiring an attractive male.",
">\n\nMost correct answer yet you’re at the bottom",
">\n\nClarification\nIf you are a woman that is what is valued other traits are valued higher than that in men\nMoney intelligence and humor all completely outclass physical attractiveness for men when it comes to dating",
">\n\nFor me even if I’m not initially attracted to a woman physically, if I fall in love with her personality, that could change and she’ll become the most beautiful woman in the world to me. That’s happened before.",
">\n\nif you dont look good just wear a fedora und greet her always with ma lady",
">\n\nMostly unattractive person here: if I can get a date and through the first date I win based on personality. The tough part is dating when you’re younger is based almost entirely on looks on the front end.",
">\n\nIt’s very important in dating in the sense that it gets your foot in the door a lot easier. It doesn’t do as much for the longevity of a relationship though. You can look like a Greek god and still have no luck finding a long term relationship due to a plethora of personality issues. Hell, some attractive people are terrible conversationalists and that sort of thing hurts their dating prospects greatly in any place that’s not a bar full of drunks.",
">\n\nisnt this like the most popular opinion ever?",
">\n\nLook at the rest of the comments"
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.",
">\n\nAlso, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha.",
">\n\nI knew it! I tell people, because I’m not that attractive, I can’t get any dates. But they try to tell me that looks don’t matter. Oh shit, looks don’t matter. I mean, I know I know Channing Tatum, but apparently I’m not even average. Because even the average people get dates. Not me.",
">\n\nGotta get the foot in the door before you can make your sales pitch. I agree with OP, being physically attractive to a potential date is the most important thing. You can be a lovely person but if you don’t get a first date than nobody will ever know.",
">\n\nAre you insecure about your looks? Practice loving yourself!",
">\n\nHow will that make girls stop calling me ugly?",
">\n\nWomen are attracted to more than just looks. If you’re ugly then learn how to be funny",
">\n\n“Unpopular Opinion “ is full of this dumb, trite moaning.",
">\n\nAbsolutely, some people may say personality is more important to have a long term relationship, however in order to have one you need to attract the person first.\nIt doesn't matter how attractive is your personality, if you don't attract someone at first place you won't have a relationship.",
">\n\nI agree. I’m perpetually single because I’m not attractive to girls the same way I’ve too rejected some girls because I wasn’t physically attracted to them. Whoever says this is shallow behavior is just an elitist prick that is too immersed in their hypocrisy to realize they’d do the same exact thing. Humans like what they like. I’m not gonna feel bad about desiring an attractive girl the same way a girl shouldn’t feel bad about desiring an attractive male.",
">\n\nMost correct answer yet you’re at the bottom",
">\n\nClarification\nIf you are a woman that is what is valued other traits are valued higher than that in men\nMoney intelligence and humor all completely outclass physical attractiveness for men when it comes to dating",
">\n\nFor me even if I’m not initially attracted to a woman physically, if I fall in love with her personality, that could change and she’ll become the most beautiful woman in the world to me. That’s happened before.",
">\n\nif you dont look good just wear a fedora und greet her always with ma lady",
">\n\nMostly unattractive person here: if I can get a date and through the first date I win based on personality. The tough part is dating when you’re younger is based almost entirely on looks on the front end.",
">\n\nIt’s very important in dating in the sense that it gets your foot in the door a lot easier. It doesn’t do as much for the longevity of a relationship though. You can look like a Greek god and still have no luck finding a long term relationship due to a plethora of personality issues. Hell, some attractive people are terrible conversationalists and that sort of thing hurts their dating prospects greatly in any place that’s not a bar full of drunks.",
">\n\nisnt this like the most popular opinion ever?",
">\n\nLook at the rest of the comments",
">\n\nThey have the upper hand and advantages, the rest of us have to try to prove ourselves in other ways."
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.",
">\n\nAlso, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha.",
">\n\nI knew it! I tell people, because I’m not that attractive, I can’t get any dates. But they try to tell me that looks don’t matter. Oh shit, looks don’t matter. I mean, I know I know Channing Tatum, but apparently I’m not even average. Because even the average people get dates. Not me.",
">\n\nGotta get the foot in the door before you can make your sales pitch. I agree with OP, being physically attractive to a potential date is the most important thing. You can be a lovely person but if you don’t get a first date than nobody will ever know.",
">\n\nAre you insecure about your looks? Practice loving yourself!",
">\n\nHow will that make girls stop calling me ugly?",
">\n\nWomen are attracted to more than just looks. If you’re ugly then learn how to be funny",
">\n\n“Unpopular Opinion “ is full of this dumb, trite moaning.",
">\n\nAbsolutely, some people may say personality is more important to have a long term relationship, however in order to have one you need to attract the person first.\nIt doesn't matter how attractive is your personality, if you don't attract someone at first place you won't have a relationship.",
">\n\nI agree. I’m perpetually single because I’m not attractive to girls the same way I’ve too rejected some girls because I wasn’t physically attracted to them. Whoever says this is shallow behavior is just an elitist prick that is too immersed in their hypocrisy to realize they’d do the same exact thing. Humans like what they like. I’m not gonna feel bad about desiring an attractive girl the same way a girl shouldn’t feel bad about desiring an attractive male.",
">\n\nMost correct answer yet you’re at the bottom",
">\n\nClarification\nIf you are a woman that is what is valued other traits are valued higher than that in men\nMoney intelligence and humor all completely outclass physical attractiveness for men when it comes to dating",
">\n\nFor me even if I’m not initially attracted to a woman physically, if I fall in love with her personality, that could change and she’ll become the most beautiful woman in the world to me. That’s happened before.",
">\n\nif you dont look good just wear a fedora und greet her always with ma lady",
">\n\nMostly unattractive person here: if I can get a date and through the first date I win based on personality. The tough part is dating when you’re younger is based almost entirely on looks on the front end.",
">\n\nIt’s very important in dating in the sense that it gets your foot in the door a lot easier. It doesn’t do as much for the longevity of a relationship though. You can look like a Greek god and still have no luck finding a long term relationship due to a plethora of personality issues. Hell, some attractive people are terrible conversationalists and that sort of thing hurts their dating prospects greatly in any place that’s not a bar full of drunks.",
">\n\nisnt this like the most popular opinion ever?",
">\n\nLook at the rest of the comments",
">\n\nThey have the upper hand and advantages, the rest of us have to try to prove ourselves in other ways.",
">\n\nThe sounds like an alien who only looks at social media wrote this."
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.",
">\n\nAlso, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha.",
">\n\nI knew it! I tell people, because I’m not that attractive, I can’t get any dates. But they try to tell me that looks don’t matter. Oh shit, looks don’t matter. I mean, I know I know Channing Tatum, but apparently I’m not even average. Because even the average people get dates. Not me.",
">\n\nGotta get the foot in the door before you can make your sales pitch. I agree with OP, being physically attractive to a potential date is the most important thing. You can be a lovely person but if you don’t get a first date than nobody will ever know.",
">\n\nAre you insecure about your looks? Practice loving yourself!",
">\n\nHow will that make girls stop calling me ugly?",
">\n\nWomen are attracted to more than just looks. If you’re ugly then learn how to be funny",
">\n\n“Unpopular Opinion “ is full of this dumb, trite moaning.",
">\n\nAbsolutely, some people may say personality is more important to have a long term relationship, however in order to have one you need to attract the person first.\nIt doesn't matter how attractive is your personality, if you don't attract someone at first place you won't have a relationship.",
">\n\nI agree. I’m perpetually single because I’m not attractive to girls the same way I’ve too rejected some girls because I wasn’t physically attracted to them. Whoever says this is shallow behavior is just an elitist prick that is too immersed in their hypocrisy to realize they’d do the same exact thing. Humans like what they like. I’m not gonna feel bad about desiring an attractive girl the same way a girl shouldn’t feel bad about desiring an attractive male.",
">\n\nMost correct answer yet you’re at the bottom",
">\n\nClarification\nIf you are a woman that is what is valued other traits are valued higher than that in men\nMoney intelligence and humor all completely outclass physical attractiveness for men when it comes to dating",
">\n\nFor me even if I’m not initially attracted to a woman physically, if I fall in love with her personality, that could change and she’ll become the most beautiful woman in the world to me. That’s happened before.",
">\n\nif you dont look good just wear a fedora und greet her always with ma lady",
">\n\nMostly unattractive person here: if I can get a date and through the first date I win based on personality. The tough part is dating when you’re younger is based almost entirely on looks on the front end.",
">\n\nIt’s very important in dating in the sense that it gets your foot in the door a lot easier. It doesn’t do as much for the longevity of a relationship though. You can look like a Greek god and still have no luck finding a long term relationship due to a plethora of personality issues. Hell, some attractive people are terrible conversationalists and that sort of thing hurts their dating prospects greatly in any place that’s not a bar full of drunks.",
">\n\nisnt this like the most popular opinion ever?",
">\n\nLook at the rest of the comments",
">\n\nThey have the upper hand and advantages, the rest of us have to try to prove ourselves in other ways.",
">\n\nThe sounds like an alien who only looks at social media wrote this.",
">\n\nThis isn't unpopular"
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All the takes I’ve seen on here recently regarding dating are absurd. As a professional who works with the physiological responses to attraction, attachment, and relationships, y’all don’t understand what is going on.
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.",
">\n\nAlso, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha.",
">\n\nI knew it! I tell people, because I’m not that attractive, I can’t get any dates. But they try to tell me that looks don’t matter. Oh shit, looks don’t matter. I mean, I know I know Channing Tatum, but apparently I’m not even average. Because even the average people get dates. Not me.",
">\n\nGotta get the foot in the door before you can make your sales pitch. I agree with OP, being physically attractive to a potential date is the most important thing. You can be a lovely person but if you don’t get a first date than nobody will ever know.",
">\n\nAre you insecure about your looks? Practice loving yourself!",
">\n\nHow will that make girls stop calling me ugly?",
">\n\nWomen are attracted to more than just looks. If you’re ugly then learn how to be funny",
">\n\n“Unpopular Opinion “ is full of this dumb, trite moaning.",
">\n\nAbsolutely, some people may say personality is more important to have a long term relationship, however in order to have one you need to attract the person first.\nIt doesn't matter how attractive is your personality, if you don't attract someone at first place you won't have a relationship.",
">\n\nI agree. I’m perpetually single because I’m not attractive to girls the same way I’ve too rejected some girls because I wasn’t physically attracted to them. Whoever says this is shallow behavior is just an elitist prick that is too immersed in their hypocrisy to realize they’d do the same exact thing. Humans like what they like. I’m not gonna feel bad about desiring an attractive girl the same way a girl shouldn’t feel bad about desiring an attractive male.",
">\n\nMost correct answer yet you’re at the bottom",
">\n\nClarification\nIf you are a woman that is what is valued other traits are valued higher than that in men\nMoney intelligence and humor all completely outclass physical attractiveness for men when it comes to dating",
">\n\nFor me even if I’m not initially attracted to a woman physically, if I fall in love with her personality, that could change and she’ll become the most beautiful woman in the world to me. That’s happened before.",
">\n\nif you dont look good just wear a fedora und greet her always with ma lady",
">\n\nMostly unattractive person here: if I can get a date and through the first date I win based on personality. The tough part is dating when you’re younger is based almost entirely on looks on the front end.",
">\n\nIt’s very important in dating in the sense that it gets your foot in the door a lot easier. It doesn’t do as much for the longevity of a relationship though. You can look like a Greek god and still have no luck finding a long term relationship due to a plethora of personality issues. Hell, some attractive people are terrible conversationalists and that sort of thing hurts their dating prospects greatly in any place that’s not a bar full of drunks.",
">\n\nisnt this like the most popular opinion ever?",
">\n\nLook at the rest of the comments",
">\n\nThey have the upper hand and advantages, the rest of us have to try to prove ourselves in other ways.",
">\n\nThe sounds like an alien who only looks at social media wrote this.",
">\n\nThis isn't unpopular",
">\n\nYes, looks are important for dating, not for relationships"
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.",
">\n\nAlso, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha.",
">\n\nI knew it! I tell people, because I’m not that attractive, I can’t get any dates. But they try to tell me that looks don’t matter. Oh shit, looks don’t matter. I mean, I know I know Channing Tatum, but apparently I’m not even average. Because even the average people get dates. Not me.",
">\n\nGotta get the foot in the door before you can make your sales pitch. I agree with OP, being physically attractive to a potential date is the most important thing. You can be a lovely person but if you don’t get a first date than nobody will ever know.",
">\n\nAre you insecure about your looks? Practice loving yourself!",
">\n\nHow will that make girls stop calling me ugly?",
">\n\nWomen are attracted to more than just looks. If you’re ugly then learn how to be funny",
">\n\n“Unpopular Opinion “ is full of this dumb, trite moaning.",
">\n\nAbsolutely, some people may say personality is more important to have a long term relationship, however in order to have one you need to attract the person first.\nIt doesn't matter how attractive is your personality, if you don't attract someone at first place you won't have a relationship.",
">\n\nI agree. I’m perpetually single because I’m not attractive to girls the same way I’ve too rejected some girls because I wasn’t physically attracted to them. Whoever says this is shallow behavior is just an elitist prick that is too immersed in their hypocrisy to realize they’d do the same exact thing. Humans like what they like. I’m not gonna feel bad about desiring an attractive girl the same way a girl shouldn’t feel bad about desiring an attractive male.",
">\n\nMost correct answer yet you’re at the bottom",
">\n\nClarification\nIf you are a woman that is what is valued other traits are valued higher than that in men\nMoney intelligence and humor all completely outclass physical attractiveness for men when it comes to dating",
">\n\nFor me even if I’m not initially attracted to a woman physically, if I fall in love with her personality, that could change and she’ll become the most beautiful woman in the world to me. That’s happened before.",
">\n\nif you dont look good just wear a fedora und greet her always with ma lady",
">\n\nMostly unattractive person here: if I can get a date and through the first date I win based on personality. The tough part is dating when you’re younger is based almost entirely on looks on the front end.",
">\n\nIt’s very important in dating in the sense that it gets your foot in the door a lot easier. It doesn’t do as much for the longevity of a relationship though. You can look like a Greek god and still have no luck finding a long term relationship due to a plethora of personality issues. Hell, some attractive people are terrible conversationalists and that sort of thing hurts their dating prospects greatly in any place that’s not a bar full of drunks.",
">\n\nisnt this like the most popular opinion ever?",
">\n\nLook at the rest of the comments",
">\n\nThey have the upper hand and advantages, the rest of us have to try to prove ourselves in other ways.",
">\n\nThe sounds like an alien who only looks at social media wrote this.",
">\n\nThis isn't unpopular",
">\n\nYes, looks are important for dating, not for relationships",
">\n\nAll the takes I’ve seen on here recently regarding dating are absurd. As a professional who works with the physiological responses to attraction, attachment, and relationships, y’all don’t understand what is going on."
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I don't have any damn sympathy for pootin but GOTTDAMN!! That had to be a little rough!
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35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs
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When I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.
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">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs"
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I'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.
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">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers."
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Yeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles
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">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them."
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Which SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!
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">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles"
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I have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.
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">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!"
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I have 123,456 reasons why I don't
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">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys."
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Seriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?
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">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't"
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I use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.
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">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?"
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But why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.
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">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890."
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the fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.
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">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers."
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It's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.
Obviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.
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">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand."
] |
>
This is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused."
] |
>
It's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.
This has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol."
] |
>
To be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.
This is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%."
] |
>
Beautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it."
] |
>
This looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha."
] |
>
Luckily I'm financially irresponsible.
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me."
] |
>
Beautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible."
] |
>
Thank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)
I started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year."
] |
>
OMG I NEED IT
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol."
] |
>
Limited Extras will be available soon.
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT"
] |
>
This is an ethereal looking board ✨️
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon."
] |
>
... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️"
] |
>
You don't...
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?"
] |
>
this mf types out every number in words
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't..."
] |
>
Ummm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words"
] |
>
i use my knob like a rotary phone
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number"
] |
>
Isn't the spacebar upside down ?
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone"
] |
>
yeah it's more comfy that way imo :)
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?"
] |
>
OK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)"
] |
>
That’s a bold strategy, Cotton
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down"
] |
>
I don't like numbers being on a layer on any setup cause it pretty much makes it useless for a lot of games so it's really not a viable option if you're a gamer. Otherwise very clean, beautiful and retro setup
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down",
">\n\nThat’s a bold strategy, Cotton"
] |
>
I mean it depends on the games you play. I mostly play FPS/games that don't require the use of the entire numrow. Having the 1-6 numrow was perfect for my use case. Even if I were to use 7-0, I would most likely bind it to more accessible keys, which is what I've seen people do. Though, I understand that everyone has different use cases and prefers different ways of input.
And thank you :)
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down",
">\n\nThat’s a bold strategy, Cotton",
">\n\nI don't like numbers being on a layer on any setup cause it pretty much makes it useless for a lot of games so it's really not a viable option if you're a gamer. Otherwise very clean, beautiful and retro setup"
] |
>
I'm big on functionalism in design so those things really bug me but I getcha and you're right, most FPS games don't really need the rest of the keys.
I just got into keebs so I'm still learning and only recently gave up the numpad so I might be still too conservative :D
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down",
">\n\nThat’s a bold strategy, Cotton",
">\n\nI don't like numbers being on a layer on any setup cause it pretty much makes it useless for a lot of games so it's really not a viable option if you're a gamer. Otherwise very clean, beautiful and retro setup",
">\n\nI mean it depends on the games you play. I mostly play FPS/games that don't require the use of the entire numrow. Having the 1-6 numrow was perfect for my use case. Even if I were to use 7-0, I would most likely bind it to more accessible keys, which is what I've seen people do. Though, I understand that everyone has different use cases and prefers different ways of input.\nAnd thank you :)"
] |
>
Ah, I totally understand. tbh, this hobby has a lot of "form over function" and "aesthetic above all", but there are also a lot of unique and innovative designs! Hope you have a good time learning more about this hobby :)
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down",
">\n\nThat’s a bold strategy, Cotton",
">\n\nI don't like numbers being on a layer on any setup cause it pretty much makes it useless for a lot of games so it's really not a viable option if you're a gamer. Otherwise very clean, beautiful and retro setup",
">\n\nI mean it depends on the games you play. I mostly play FPS/games that don't require the use of the entire numrow. Having the 1-6 numrow was perfect for my use case. Even if I were to use 7-0, I would most likely bind it to more accessible keys, which is what I've seen people do. Though, I understand that everyone has different use cases and prefers different ways of input.\nAnd thank you :)",
">\n\nI'm big on functionalism in design so those things really bug me but I getcha and you're right, most FPS games don't really need the rest of the keys.\nI just got into keebs so I'm still learning and only recently gave up the numpad so I might be still too conservative :D"
] |
>
You should open your own brand with keyboards - “CoffeeBoard” or “iSeed”
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down",
">\n\nThat’s a bold strategy, Cotton",
">\n\nI don't like numbers being on a layer on any setup cause it pretty much makes it useless for a lot of games so it's really not a viable option if you're a gamer. Otherwise very clean, beautiful and retro setup",
">\n\nI mean it depends on the games you play. I mostly play FPS/games that don't require the use of the entire numrow. Having the 1-6 numrow was perfect for my use case. Even if I were to use 7-0, I would most likely bind it to more accessible keys, which is what I've seen people do. Though, I understand that everyone has different use cases and prefers different ways of input.\nAnd thank you :)",
">\n\nI'm big on functionalism in design so those things really bug me but I getcha and you're right, most FPS games don't really need the rest of the keys.\nI just got into keebs so I'm still learning and only recently gave up the numpad so I might be still too conservative :D",
">\n\nAh, I totally understand. tbh, this hobby has a lot of \"form over function\" and \"aesthetic above all\", but there are also a lot of unique and innovative designs! Hope you have a good time learning more about this hobby :)"
] |
>
cbkbd.com (coffee break keyboard) already has the first one covered.
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down",
">\n\nThat’s a bold strategy, Cotton",
">\n\nI don't like numbers being on a layer on any setup cause it pretty much makes it useless for a lot of games so it's really not a viable option if you're a gamer. Otherwise very clean, beautiful and retro setup",
">\n\nI mean it depends on the games you play. I mostly play FPS/games that don't require the use of the entire numrow. Having the 1-6 numrow was perfect for my use case. Even if I were to use 7-0, I would most likely bind it to more accessible keys, which is what I've seen people do. Though, I understand that everyone has different use cases and prefers different ways of input.\nAnd thank you :)",
">\n\nI'm big on functionalism in design so those things really bug me but I getcha and you're right, most FPS games don't really need the rest of the keys.\nI just got into keebs so I'm still learning and only recently gave up the numpad so I might be still too conservative :D",
">\n\nAh, I totally understand. tbh, this hobby has a lot of \"form over function\" and \"aesthetic above all\", but there are also a lot of unique and innovative designs! Hope you have a good time learning more about this hobby :)",
">\n\nYou should open your own brand with keyboards - “CoffeeBoard” or “iSeed”"
] |
>
It’s like a Disneyland for keyboard guys but there are only few offers 😉
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down",
">\n\nThat’s a bold strategy, Cotton",
">\n\nI don't like numbers being on a layer on any setup cause it pretty much makes it useless for a lot of games so it's really not a viable option if you're a gamer. Otherwise very clean, beautiful and retro setup",
">\n\nI mean it depends on the games you play. I mostly play FPS/games that don't require the use of the entire numrow. Having the 1-6 numrow was perfect for my use case. Even if I were to use 7-0, I would most likely bind it to more accessible keys, which is what I've seen people do. Though, I understand that everyone has different use cases and prefers different ways of input.\nAnd thank you :)",
">\n\nI'm big on functionalism in design so those things really bug me but I getcha and you're right, most FPS games don't really need the rest of the keys.\nI just got into keebs so I'm still learning and only recently gave up the numpad so I might be still too conservative :D",
">\n\nAh, I totally understand. tbh, this hobby has a lot of \"form over function\" and \"aesthetic above all\", but there are also a lot of unique and innovative designs! Hope you have a good time learning more about this hobby :)",
">\n\nYou should open your own brand with keyboards - “CoffeeBoard” or “iSeed”",
">\n\ncbkbd.com (coffee break keyboard) already has the first one covered."
] |
>
You need to upgrade to Vertuo.
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down",
">\n\nThat’s a bold strategy, Cotton",
">\n\nI don't like numbers being on a layer on any setup cause it pretty much makes it useless for a lot of games so it's really not a viable option if you're a gamer. Otherwise very clean, beautiful and retro setup",
">\n\nI mean it depends on the games you play. I mostly play FPS/games that don't require the use of the entire numrow. Having the 1-6 numrow was perfect for my use case. Even if I were to use 7-0, I would most likely bind it to more accessible keys, which is what I've seen people do. Though, I understand that everyone has different use cases and prefers different ways of input.\nAnd thank you :)",
">\n\nI'm big on functionalism in design so those things really bug me but I getcha and you're right, most FPS games don't really need the rest of the keys.\nI just got into keebs so I'm still learning and only recently gave up the numpad so I might be still too conservative :D",
">\n\nAh, I totally understand. tbh, this hobby has a lot of \"form over function\" and \"aesthetic above all\", but there are also a lot of unique and innovative designs! Hope you have a good time learning more about this hobby :)",
">\n\nYou should open your own brand with keyboards - “CoffeeBoard” or “iSeed”",
">\n\ncbkbd.com (coffee break keyboard) already has the first one covered.",
">\n\nIt’s like a Disneyland for keyboard guys but there are only few offers 😉"
] |
>
keycaps?
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down",
">\n\nThat’s a bold strategy, Cotton",
">\n\nI don't like numbers being on a layer on any setup cause it pretty much makes it useless for a lot of games so it's really not a viable option if you're a gamer. Otherwise very clean, beautiful and retro setup",
">\n\nI mean it depends on the games you play. I mostly play FPS/games that don't require the use of the entire numrow. Having the 1-6 numrow was perfect for my use case. Even if I were to use 7-0, I would most likely bind it to more accessible keys, which is what I've seen people do. Though, I understand that everyone has different use cases and prefers different ways of input.\nAnd thank you :)",
">\n\nI'm big on functionalism in design so those things really bug me but I getcha and you're right, most FPS games don't really need the rest of the keys.\nI just got into keebs so I'm still learning and only recently gave up the numpad so I might be still too conservative :D",
">\n\nAh, I totally understand. tbh, this hobby has a lot of \"form over function\" and \"aesthetic above all\", but there are also a lot of unique and innovative designs! Hope you have a good time learning more about this hobby :)",
">\n\nYou should open your own brand with keyboards - “CoffeeBoard” or “iSeed”",
">\n\ncbkbd.com (coffee break keyboard) already has the first one covered.",
">\n\nIt’s like a Disneyland for keyboard guys but there are only few offers 😉",
">\n\nYou need to upgrade to Vertuo."
] |
>
DCP Pegaso :)
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down",
">\n\nThat’s a bold strategy, Cotton",
">\n\nI don't like numbers being on a layer on any setup cause it pretty much makes it useless for a lot of games so it's really not a viable option if you're a gamer. Otherwise very clean, beautiful and retro setup",
">\n\nI mean it depends on the games you play. I mostly play FPS/games that don't require the use of the entire numrow. Having the 1-6 numrow was perfect for my use case. Even if I were to use 7-0, I would most likely bind it to more accessible keys, which is what I've seen people do. Though, I understand that everyone has different use cases and prefers different ways of input.\nAnd thank you :)",
">\n\nI'm big on functionalism in design so those things really bug me but I getcha and you're right, most FPS games don't really need the rest of the keys.\nI just got into keebs so I'm still learning and only recently gave up the numpad so I might be still too conservative :D",
">\n\nAh, I totally understand. tbh, this hobby has a lot of \"form over function\" and \"aesthetic above all\", but there are also a lot of unique and innovative designs! Hope you have a good time learning more about this hobby :)",
">\n\nYou should open your own brand with keyboards - “CoffeeBoard” or “iSeed”",
">\n\ncbkbd.com (coffee break keyboard) already has the first one covered.",
">\n\nIt’s like a Disneyland for keyboard guys but there are only few offers 😉",
">\n\nYou need to upgrade to Vertuo.",
">\n\nkeycaps?"
] |
>
Nespresso
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down",
">\n\nThat’s a bold strategy, Cotton",
">\n\nI don't like numbers being on a layer on any setup cause it pretty much makes it useless for a lot of games so it's really not a viable option if you're a gamer. Otherwise very clean, beautiful and retro setup",
">\n\nI mean it depends on the games you play. I mostly play FPS/games that don't require the use of the entire numrow. Having the 1-6 numrow was perfect for my use case. Even if I were to use 7-0, I would most likely bind it to more accessible keys, which is what I've seen people do. Though, I understand that everyone has different use cases and prefers different ways of input.\nAnd thank you :)",
">\n\nI'm big on functionalism in design so those things really bug me but I getcha and you're right, most FPS games don't really need the rest of the keys.\nI just got into keebs so I'm still learning and only recently gave up the numpad so I might be still too conservative :D",
">\n\nAh, I totally understand. tbh, this hobby has a lot of \"form over function\" and \"aesthetic above all\", but there are also a lot of unique and innovative designs! Hope you have a good time learning more about this hobby :)",
">\n\nYou should open your own brand with keyboards - “CoffeeBoard” or “iSeed”",
">\n\ncbkbd.com (coffee break keyboard) already has the first one covered.",
">\n\nIt’s like a Disneyland for keyboard guys but there are only few offers 😉",
">\n\nYou need to upgrade to Vertuo.",
">\n\nkeycaps?",
">\n\nDCP Pegaso :)"
] |
>
Is so beautiful
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down",
">\n\nThat’s a bold strategy, Cotton",
">\n\nI don't like numbers being on a layer on any setup cause it pretty much makes it useless for a lot of games so it's really not a viable option if you're a gamer. Otherwise very clean, beautiful and retro setup",
">\n\nI mean it depends on the games you play. I mostly play FPS/games that don't require the use of the entire numrow. Having the 1-6 numrow was perfect for my use case. Even if I were to use 7-0, I would most likely bind it to more accessible keys, which is what I've seen people do. Though, I understand that everyone has different use cases and prefers different ways of input.\nAnd thank you :)",
">\n\nI'm big on functionalism in design so those things really bug me but I getcha and you're right, most FPS games don't really need the rest of the keys.\nI just got into keebs so I'm still learning and only recently gave up the numpad so I might be still too conservative :D",
">\n\nAh, I totally understand. tbh, this hobby has a lot of \"form over function\" and \"aesthetic above all\", but there are also a lot of unique and innovative designs! Hope you have a good time learning more about this hobby :)",
">\n\nYou should open your own brand with keyboards - “CoffeeBoard” or “iSeed”",
">\n\ncbkbd.com (coffee break keyboard) already has the first one covered.",
">\n\nIt’s like a Disneyland for keyboard guys but there are only few offers 😉",
">\n\nYou need to upgrade to Vertuo.",
">\n\nkeycaps?",
">\n\nDCP Pegaso :)",
">\n\nNespresso"
] |
>
There’s no escape, there’s just the end…
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down",
">\n\nThat’s a bold strategy, Cotton",
">\n\nI don't like numbers being on a layer on any setup cause it pretty much makes it useless for a lot of games so it's really not a viable option if you're a gamer. Otherwise very clean, beautiful and retro setup",
">\n\nI mean it depends on the games you play. I mostly play FPS/games that don't require the use of the entire numrow. Having the 1-6 numrow was perfect for my use case. Even if I were to use 7-0, I would most likely bind it to more accessible keys, which is what I've seen people do. Though, I understand that everyone has different use cases and prefers different ways of input.\nAnd thank you :)",
">\n\nI'm big on functionalism in design so those things really bug me but I getcha and you're right, most FPS games don't really need the rest of the keys.\nI just got into keebs so I'm still learning and only recently gave up the numpad so I might be still too conservative :D",
">\n\nAh, I totally understand. tbh, this hobby has a lot of \"form over function\" and \"aesthetic above all\", but there are also a lot of unique and innovative designs! Hope you have a good time learning more about this hobby :)",
">\n\nYou should open your own brand with keyboards - “CoffeeBoard” or “iSeed”",
">\n\ncbkbd.com (coffee break keyboard) already has the first one covered.",
">\n\nIt’s like a Disneyland for keyboard guys but there are only few offers 😉",
">\n\nYou need to upgrade to Vertuo.",
">\n\nkeycaps?",
">\n\nDCP Pegaso :)",
">\n\nNespresso",
">\n\nIs so beautiful"
] |
>
I’m glad someone else thinks the k cups look sexy as fuck, no one ever talks about them
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down",
">\n\nThat’s a bold strategy, Cotton",
">\n\nI don't like numbers being on a layer on any setup cause it pretty much makes it useless for a lot of games so it's really not a viable option if you're a gamer. Otherwise very clean, beautiful and retro setup",
">\n\nI mean it depends on the games you play. I mostly play FPS/games that don't require the use of the entire numrow. Having the 1-6 numrow was perfect for my use case. Even if I were to use 7-0, I would most likely bind it to more accessible keys, which is what I've seen people do. Though, I understand that everyone has different use cases and prefers different ways of input.\nAnd thank you :)",
">\n\nI'm big on functionalism in design so those things really bug me but I getcha and you're right, most FPS games don't really need the rest of the keys.\nI just got into keebs so I'm still learning and only recently gave up the numpad so I might be still too conservative :D",
">\n\nAh, I totally understand. tbh, this hobby has a lot of \"form over function\" and \"aesthetic above all\", but there are also a lot of unique and innovative designs! Hope you have a good time learning more about this hobby :)",
">\n\nYou should open your own brand with keyboards - “CoffeeBoard” or “iSeed”",
">\n\ncbkbd.com (coffee break keyboard) already has the first one covered.",
">\n\nIt’s like a Disneyland for keyboard guys but there are only few offers 😉",
">\n\nYou need to upgrade to Vertuo.",
">\n\nkeycaps?",
">\n\nDCP Pegaso :)",
">\n\nNespresso",
">\n\nIs so beautiful",
">\n\nThere’s no escape, there’s just the end…"
] |
>
What would be even more fantastic is if the knob looked like the coffee pods!
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down",
">\n\nThat’s a bold strategy, Cotton",
">\n\nI don't like numbers being on a layer on any setup cause it pretty much makes it useless for a lot of games so it's really not a viable option if you're a gamer. Otherwise very clean, beautiful and retro setup",
">\n\nI mean it depends on the games you play. I mostly play FPS/games that don't require the use of the entire numrow. Having the 1-6 numrow was perfect for my use case. Even if I were to use 7-0, I would most likely bind it to more accessible keys, which is what I've seen people do. Though, I understand that everyone has different use cases and prefers different ways of input.\nAnd thank you :)",
">\n\nI'm big on functionalism in design so those things really bug me but I getcha and you're right, most FPS games don't really need the rest of the keys.\nI just got into keebs so I'm still learning and only recently gave up the numpad so I might be still too conservative :D",
">\n\nAh, I totally understand. tbh, this hobby has a lot of \"form over function\" and \"aesthetic above all\", but there are also a lot of unique and innovative designs! Hope you have a good time learning more about this hobby :)",
">\n\nYou should open your own brand with keyboards - “CoffeeBoard” or “iSeed”",
">\n\ncbkbd.com (coffee break keyboard) already has the first one covered.",
">\n\nIt’s like a Disneyland for keyboard guys but there are only few offers 😉",
">\n\nYou need to upgrade to Vertuo.",
">\n\nkeycaps?",
">\n\nDCP Pegaso :)",
">\n\nNespresso",
">\n\nIs so beautiful",
">\n\nThere’s no escape, there’s just the end…",
">\n\nI’m glad someone else thinks the k cups look sexy as fuck, no one ever talks about them"
] |
>
I want it
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down",
">\n\nThat’s a bold strategy, Cotton",
">\n\nI don't like numbers being on a layer on any setup cause it pretty much makes it useless for a lot of games so it's really not a viable option if you're a gamer. Otherwise very clean, beautiful and retro setup",
">\n\nI mean it depends on the games you play. I mostly play FPS/games that don't require the use of the entire numrow. Having the 1-6 numrow was perfect for my use case. Even if I were to use 7-0, I would most likely bind it to more accessible keys, which is what I've seen people do. Though, I understand that everyone has different use cases and prefers different ways of input.\nAnd thank you :)",
">\n\nI'm big on functionalism in design so those things really bug me but I getcha and you're right, most FPS games don't really need the rest of the keys.\nI just got into keebs so I'm still learning and only recently gave up the numpad so I might be still too conservative :D",
">\n\nAh, I totally understand. tbh, this hobby has a lot of \"form over function\" and \"aesthetic above all\", but there are also a lot of unique and innovative designs! Hope you have a good time learning more about this hobby :)",
">\n\nYou should open your own brand with keyboards - “CoffeeBoard” or “iSeed”",
">\n\ncbkbd.com (coffee break keyboard) already has the first one covered.",
">\n\nIt’s like a Disneyland for keyboard guys but there are only few offers 😉",
">\n\nYou need to upgrade to Vertuo.",
">\n\nkeycaps?",
">\n\nDCP Pegaso :)",
">\n\nNespresso",
">\n\nIs so beautiful",
">\n\nThere’s no escape, there’s just the end…",
">\n\nI’m glad someone else thinks the k cups look sexy as fuck, no one ever talks about them",
">\n\nWhat would be even more fantastic is if the knob looked like the coffee pods!"
] |
>
Love it
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down",
">\n\nThat’s a bold strategy, Cotton",
">\n\nI don't like numbers being on a layer on any setup cause it pretty much makes it useless for a lot of games so it's really not a viable option if you're a gamer. Otherwise very clean, beautiful and retro setup",
">\n\nI mean it depends on the games you play. I mostly play FPS/games that don't require the use of the entire numrow. Having the 1-6 numrow was perfect for my use case. Even if I were to use 7-0, I would most likely bind it to more accessible keys, which is what I've seen people do. Though, I understand that everyone has different use cases and prefers different ways of input.\nAnd thank you :)",
">\n\nI'm big on functionalism in design so those things really bug me but I getcha and you're right, most FPS games don't really need the rest of the keys.\nI just got into keebs so I'm still learning and only recently gave up the numpad so I might be still too conservative :D",
">\n\nAh, I totally understand. tbh, this hobby has a lot of \"form over function\" and \"aesthetic above all\", but there are also a lot of unique and innovative designs! Hope you have a good time learning more about this hobby :)",
">\n\nYou should open your own brand with keyboards - “CoffeeBoard” or “iSeed”",
">\n\ncbkbd.com (coffee break keyboard) already has the first one covered.",
">\n\nIt’s like a Disneyland for keyboard guys but there are only few offers 😉",
">\n\nYou need to upgrade to Vertuo.",
">\n\nkeycaps?",
">\n\nDCP Pegaso :)",
">\n\nNespresso",
">\n\nIs so beautiful",
">\n\nThere’s no escape, there’s just the end…",
">\n\nI’m glad someone else thinks the k cups look sexy as fuck, no one ever talks about them",
">\n\nWhat would be even more fantastic is if the knob looked like the coffee pods!",
">\n\nI want it"
] |
>
What a weird little board! I could never use it but it looks so nice!
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down",
">\n\nThat’s a bold strategy, Cotton",
">\n\nI don't like numbers being on a layer on any setup cause it pretty much makes it useless for a lot of games so it's really not a viable option if you're a gamer. Otherwise very clean, beautiful and retro setup",
">\n\nI mean it depends on the games you play. I mostly play FPS/games that don't require the use of the entire numrow. Having the 1-6 numrow was perfect for my use case. Even if I were to use 7-0, I would most likely bind it to more accessible keys, which is what I've seen people do. Though, I understand that everyone has different use cases and prefers different ways of input.\nAnd thank you :)",
">\n\nI'm big on functionalism in design so those things really bug me but I getcha and you're right, most FPS games don't really need the rest of the keys.\nI just got into keebs so I'm still learning and only recently gave up the numpad so I might be still too conservative :D",
">\n\nAh, I totally understand. tbh, this hobby has a lot of \"form over function\" and \"aesthetic above all\", but there are also a lot of unique and innovative designs! Hope you have a good time learning more about this hobby :)",
">\n\nYou should open your own brand with keyboards - “CoffeeBoard” or “iSeed”",
">\n\ncbkbd.com (coffee break keyboard) already has the first one covered.",
">\n\nIt’s like a Disneyland for keyboard guys but there are only few offers 😉",
">\n\nYou need to upgrade to Vertuo.",
">\n\nkeycaps?",
">\n\nDCP Pegaso :)",
">\n\nNespresso",
">\n\nIs so beautiful",
">\n\nThere’s no escape, there’s just the end…",
">\n\nI’m glad someone else thinks the k cups look sexy as fuck, no one ever talks about them",
">\n\nWhat would be even more fantastic is if the knob looked like the coffee pods!",
">\n\nI want it",
">\n\nLove it"
] |
>
I THROW TRASH ALL OVER THE ALL OVER THE RING
AND THEN
I START EATING GARBAGE
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down",
">\n\nThat’s a bold strategy, Cotton",
">\n\nI don't like numbers being on a layer on any setup cause it pretty much makes it useless for a lot of games so it's really not a viable option if you're a gamer. Otherwise very clean, beautiful and retro setup",
">\n\nI mean it depends on the games you play. I mostly play FPS/games that don't require the use of the entire numrow. Having the 1-6 numrow was perfect for my use case. Even if I were to use 7-0, I would most likely bind it to more accessible keys, which is what I've seen people do. Though, I understand that everyone has different use cases and prefers different ways of input.\nAnd thank you :)",
">\n\nI'm big on functionalism in design so those things really bug me but I getcha and you're right, most FPS games don't really need the rest of the keys.\nI just got into keebs so I'm still learning and only recently gave up the numpad so I might be still too conservative :D",
">\n\nAh, I totally understand. tbh, this hobby has a lot of \"form over function\" and \"aesthetic above all\", but there are also a lot of unique and innovative designs! Hope you have a good time learning more about this hobby :)",
">\n\nYou should open your own brand with keyboards - “CoffeeBoard” or “iSeed”",
">\n\ncbkbd.com (coffee break keyboard) already has the first one covered.",
">\n\nIt’s like a Disneyland for keyboard guys but there are only few offers 😉",
">\n\nYou need to upgrade to Vertuo.",
">\n\nkeycaps?",
">\n\nDCP Pegaso :)",
">\n\nNespresso",
">\n\nIs so beautiful",
">\n\nThere’s no escape, there’s just the end…",
">\n\nI’m glad someone else thinks the k cups look sexy as fuck, no one ever talks about them",
">\n\nWhat would be even more fantastic is if the knob looked like the coffee pods!",
">\n\nI want it",
">\n\nLove it",
">\n\nWhat a weird little board! I could never use it but it looks so nice!"
] |
>
I love the idea of replacing the right meta keys (alt, ctrl, etc) with arrow keys, but nixing the number row is a bridge too far for practical use. Sexy, though.
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down",
">\n\nThat’s a bold strategy, Cotton",
">\n\nI don't like numbers being on a layer on any setup cause it pretty much makes it useless for a lot of games so it's really not a viable option if you're a gamer. Otherwise very clean, beautiful and retro setup",
">\n\nI mean it depends on the games you play. I mostly play FPS/games that don't require the use of the entire numrow. Having the 1-6 numrow was perfect for my use case. Even if I were to use 7-0, I would most likely bind it to more accessible keys, which is what I've seen people do. Though, I understand that everyone has different use cases and prefers different ways of input.\nAnd thank you :)",
">\n\nI'm big on functionalism in design so those things really bug me but I getcha and you're right, most FPS games don't really need the rest of the keys.\nI just got into keebs so I'm still learning and only recently gave up the numpad so I might be still too conservative :D",
">\n\nAh, I totally understand. tbh, this hobby has a lot of \"form over function\" and \"aesthetic above all\", but there are also a lot of unique and innovative designs! Hope you have a good time learning more about this hobby :)",
">\n\nYou should open your own brand with keyboards - “CoffeeBoard” or “iSeed”",
">\n\ncbkbd.com (coffee break keyboard) already has the first one covered.",
">\n\nIt’s like a Disneyland for keyboard guys but there are only few offers 😉",
">\n\nYou need to upgrade to Vertuo.",
">\n\nkeycaps?",
">\n\nDCP Pegaso :)",
">\n\nNespresso",
">\n\nIs so beautiful",
">\n\nThere’s no escape, there’s just the end…",
">\n\nI’m glad someone else thinks the k cups look sexy as fuck, no one ever talks about them",
">\n\nWhat would be even more fantastic is if the knob looked like the coffee pods!",
">\n\nI want it",
">\n\nLove it",
">\n\nWhat a weird little board! I could never use it but it looks so nice!",
">\n\nI THROW TRASH ALL OVER THE ALL OVER THE RING\nAND THEN\nI START EATING GARBAGE"
] |
>
yeah, I never use the bottom right modifiers so it didn't matter. The arrow keys were def a nice replacement.
I totally see how removing the numrow makes it impractical. Though, there are thousands of us 40s users that find it totally okay! It definitely depends on your use case :)
And thank you :)
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down",
">\n\nThat’s a bold strategy, Cotton",
">\n\nI don't like numbers being on a layer on any setup cause it pretty much makes it useless for a lot of games so it's really not a viable option if you're a gamer. Otherwise very clean, beautiful and retro setup",
">\n\nI mean it depends on the games you play. I mostly play FPS/games that don't require the use of the entire numrow. Having the 1-6 numrow was perfect for my use case. Even if I were to use 7-0, I would most likely bind it to more accessible keys, which is what I've seen people do. Though, I understand that everyone has different use cases and prefers different ways of input.\nAnd thank you :)",
">\n\nI'm big on functionalism in design so those things really bug me but I getcha and you're right, most FPS games don't really need the rest of the keys.\nI just got into keebs so I'm still learning and only recently gave up the numpad so I might be still too conservative :D",
">\n\nAh, I totally understand. tbh, this hobby has a lot of \"form over function\" and \"aesthetic above all\", but there are also a lot of unique and innovative designs! Hope you have a good time learning more about this hobby :)",
">\n\nYou should open your own brand with keyboards - “CoffeeBoard” or “iSeed”",
">\n\ncbkbd.com (coffee break keyboard) already has the first one covered.",
">\n\nIt’s like a Disneyland for keyboard guys but there are only few offers 😉",
">\n\nYou need to upgrade to Vertuo.",
">\n\nkeycaps?",
">\n\nDCP Pegaso :)",
">\n\nNespresso",
">\n\nIs so beautiful",
">\n\nThere’s no escape, there’s just the end…",
">\n\nI’m glad someone else thinks the k cups look sexy as fuck, no one ever talks about them",
">\n\nWhat would be even more fantastic is if the knob looked like the coffee pods!",
">\n\nI want it",
">\n\nLove it",
">\n\nWhat a weird little board! I could never use it but it looks so nice!",
">\n\nI THROW TRASH ALL OVER THE ALL OVER THE RING\nAND THEN\nI START EATING GARBAGE",
">\n\nI love the idea of replacing the right meta keys (alt, ctrl, etc) with arrow keys, but nixing the number row is a bridge too far for practical use. Sexy, though."
] |
>
|
[
"Embrace by Trashman ( u/evangs )\nDCP Pegaso\nJWK HaluHalo (35g springs, lubed w/ 3203)",
">\n\n35g‽ damn, I would have so many misinputs",
">\n\nWhen I first got into kbs, I always thought that the standard 45g actuation force of Cherry/Gat/Outemu linears were a bit heavy. When I transitioned to 35g actuation force, it was really light and comfy. Felt like typing on clouds lol. It reduced a lot of strain on my fingers.",
">\n\nI'm using 62g tactile and love it, it's like a massage for the fingers while typing. also good muscle training. i don't get any strain from typing on them.",
">\n\nYeah, see, 67g is way too much for me, I wonder if a tactile would make a difference…because you are the second person to say they use heavy tactiles",
">\n\nWhich SOB stole the rest of your number keys!?!",
">\n\nI have 7890 reasons why you need more keys.",
">\n\nI have 123,456 reasons why I don't",
">\n\nSeriously though, what do you do for 7-8-9-0?",
">\n\nI use layers lol. My ?/ key is a layer key. Tapping it acts as a normal key. If I hold it, I get access to Layer 1. Layer 1 consists of all my numbers, symbols, F keys, etc. In this context, when holding the ?/ key, the letters UIOP directly translate to 7890.",
">\n\nBut why though ? It's not like there wasn't room for the entire row of numbers.",
">\n\nthe fact that you're thinking of it as half a num row means you're already wrong. it's six additional keys to make gaming on a 40% more enjoyable. they can be whatever you want them to be, it just makes sense to use number caps since they already exist. I use them as numbers for a couple games I play where having dedicated keys is beneficial, but in normal typing for my software engineering job I don't use them at all. Instead I use a numpad on layer 2 that is directly under my right hand.",
">\n\nIt's definitely a 60% missing keys and not a 40% with extra keys though, since the point of a 40% over a 60% is that it's not as large having only 4 rows.\nObviously the only thing that matters is you and OP liking this layout, it's just the first time I've seen a layout that left me confused.",
">\n\nThis is definitely a 40% with 6 extra keys. It's still smaller than a 60 in both width and height lol.",
">\n\nIt's a unique layout so technically it needs its own descriptor, it's neither a 60% nor a 40%, but I'd say the defining feature of a 40% is that it's only got 4 rows.\nThis has 5 rows, it's just as high as a 60%. And it's only slightly less wide than a typical 60%.",
">\n\nTo be fair, most people see this board as a 45%. The 40% aspect comes from the width (the lack of punctuation keys). The 5% comes from the 1-6 numrow above. Other boards that are considered a 45% would be boards like the SingaKBD Neko or ai03 Equinox XL. This is due to them having more punctuation keys than the typical 40%. The Embrace is a 45% in a way that it adds a row instead of more columns for punctuation.\nThis is how I see it. Everyone's going to have their own perspective on it.",
">\n\nBeautiful. But dangerous. I use my 40s to keep myself from gaming on the job, but this one will wreck me hahaha.",
">\n\nThis looks great, jealous, but that price tag was a deal breaker for me.",
">\n\nLuckily I'm financially irresponsible.",
">\n\nBeautiful board! I started building my first 40% keyboard about this time last year.",
">\n\nThank you! Hope you're enjoying your 40% journey! :)\nI started my 40% journey in early 2020. I've learned a lot since then lol.",
">\n\nOMG I NEED IT",
">\n\nLimited Extras will be available soon.",
">\n\nThis is an ethereal looking board ✨️",
">\n\n... what happens when you need to type a number bigger than 6?",
">\n\nYou don't...",
">\n\nthis mf types out every number in words",
">\n\nUmmm you spin the knob and pray it lands on your number",
">\n\ni use my knob like a rotary phone",
">\n\nIsn't the spacebar upside down ?",
">\n\nyeah it's more comfy that way imo :)",
">\n\nOK good, I thought me eyes were fkn with me x) I used to do that on my RK61*too, some keys were much better when upside down",
">\n\nThat’s a bold strategy, Cotton",
">\n\nI don't like numbers being on a layer on any setup cause it pretty much makes it useless for a lot of games so it's really not a viable option if you're a gamer. Otherwise very clean, beautiful and retro setup",
">\n\nI mean it depends on the games you play. I mostly play FPS/games that don't require the use of the entire numrow. Having the 1-6 numrow was perfect for my use case. Even if I were to use 7-0, I would most likely bind it to more accessible keys, which is what I've seen people do. Though, I understand that everyone has different use cases and prefers different ways of input.\nAnd thank you :)",
">\n\nI'm big on functionalism in design so those things really bug me but I getcha and you're right, most FPS games don't really need the rest of the keys.\nI just got into keebs so I'm still learning and only recently gave up the numpad so I might be still too conservative :D",
">\n\nAh, I totally understand. tbh, this hobby has a lot of \"form over function\" and \"aesthetic above all\", but there are also a lot of unique and innovative designs! Hope you have a good time learning more about this hobby :)",
">\n\nYou should open your own brand with keyboards - “CoffeeBoard” or “iSeed”",
">\n\ncbkbd.com (coffee break keyboard) already has the first one covered.",
">\n\nIt’s like a Disneyland for keyboard guys but there are only few offers 😉",
">\n\nYou need to upgrade to Vertuo.",
">\n\nkeycaps?",
">\n\nDCP Pegaso :)",
">\n\nNespresso",
">\n\nIs so beautiful",
">\n\nThere’s no escape, there’s just the end…",
">\n\nI’m glad someone else thinks the k cups look sexy as fuck, no one ever talks about them",
">\n\nWhat would be even more fantastic is if the knob looked like the coffee pods!",
">\n\nI want it",
">\n\nLove it",
">\n\nWhat a weird little board! I could never use it but it looks so nice!",
">\n\nI THROW TRASH ALL OVER THE ALL OVER THE RING\nAND THEN\nI START EATING GARBAGE",
">\n\nI love the idea of replacing the right meta keys (alt, ctrl, etc) with arrow keys, but nixing the number row is a bridge too far for practical use. Sexy, though.",
">\n\nyeah, I never use the bottom right modifiers so it didn't matter. The arrow keys were def a nice replacement.\nI totally see how removing the numrow makes it impractical. Though, there are thousands of us 40s users that find it totally okay! It definitely depends on your use case :)\nAnd thank you :)"
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A court found her guilty [on Friday] of corruption because she had not followed regulations in renting a helicopter for a government minister.
She had already been convicted of 14 different crimes including breaching Covid public safety rules, importing walkie-talkies and violating the official secrets act.
Boy, that all sounds vague & spurious. Before I look into it: anybody think ASSK was criminally handing out joyrides in helicopters to the detriment of the nation?
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On the one hand, I feel like they're railroading her. On the other hand, I also think she's a piece of shit who deserves this, but for other reasons. Is this karma?
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"A court found her guilty [on Friday] of corruption because she had not followed regulations in renting a helicopter for a government minister.\nShe had already been convicted of 14 different crimes including breaching Covid public safety rules, importing walkie-talkies and violating the official secrets act.\n\nBoy, that all sounds vague & spurious. Before I look into it: anybody think ASSK was criminally handing out joyrides in helicopters to the detriment of the nation?"
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I'm ootl, why is she a pos?
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"A court found her guilty [on Friday] of corruption because she had not followed regulations in renting a helicopter for a government minister.\nShe had already been convicted of 14 different crimes including breaching Covid public safety rules, importing walkie-talkies and violating the official secrets act.\n\nBoy, that all sounds vague & spurious. Before I look into it: anybody think ASSK was criminally handing out joyrides in helicopters to the detriment of the nation?",
">\n\nOn the one hand, I feel like they're railroading her. On the other hand, I also think she's a piece of shit who deserves this, but for other reasons. Is this karma?"
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Without committing to the details, she's a Nobel Peace Prize laureate who later served as Myanmar's head of state during the human rights atrocities the government there perpetrated against the Rohingya people. Super bad shit - systematic rape and pillage, genocide, baby murder...the worst of the worst humanity does to each other.
It's complicated because of the military and political dynamics, and you should definitely look into how Facebook facilitated misinformation campaigns that drove things, but her hands are not clean.
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"A court found her guilty [on Friday] of corruption because she had not followed regulations in renting a helicopter for a government minister.\nShe had already been convicted of 14 different crimes including breaching Covid public safety rules, importing walkie-talkies and violating the official secrets act.\n\nBoy, that all sounds vague & spurious. Before I look into it: anybody think ASSK was criminally handing out joyrides in helicopters to the detriment of the nation?",
">\n\nOn the one hand, I feel like they're railroading her. On the other hand, I also think she's a piece of shit who deserves this, but for other reasons. Is this karma?",
">\n\nI'm ootl, why is she a pos?"
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the military are the actual bad guys. she is guilty of being afraid they would throw a coup if she tried to criticize them, which turned out to be accurate.
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"A court found her guilty [on Friday] of corruption because she had not followed regulations in renting a helicopter for a government minister.\nShe had already been convicted of 14 different crimes including breaching Covid public safety rules, importing walkie-talkies and violating the official secrets act.\n\nBoy, that all sounds vague & spurious. Before I look into it: anybody think ASSK was criminally handing out joyrides in helicopters to the detriment of the nation?",
">\n\nOn the one hand, I feel like they're railroading her. On the other hand, I also think she's a piece of shit who deserves this, but for other reasons. Is this karma?",
">\n\nI'm ootl, why is she a pos?",
">\n\nWithout committing to the details, she's a Nobel Peace Prize laureate who later served as Myanmar's head of state during the human rights atrocities the government there perpetrated against the Rohingya people. Super bad shit - systematic rape and pillage, genocide, baby murder...the worst of the worst humanity does to each other.\nIt's complicated because of the military and political dynamics, and you should definitely look into how Facebook facilitated misinformation campaigns that drove things, but her hands are not clean."
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Being complicit to genocide is never the best choice in any situation.
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"A court found her guilty [on Friday] of corruption because she had not followed regulations in renting a helicopter for a government minister.\nShe had already been convicted of 14 different crimes including breaching Covid public safety rules, importing walkie-talkies and violating the official secrets act.\n\nBoy, that all sounds vague & spurious. Before I look into it: anybody think ASSK was criminally handing out joyrides in helicopters to the detriment of the nation?",
">\n\nOn the one hand, I feel like they're railroading her. On the other hand, I also think she's a piece of shit who deserves this, but for other reasons. Is this karma?",
">\n\nI'm ootl, why is she a pos?",
">\n\nWithout committing to the details, she's a Nobel Peace Prize laureate who later served as Myanmar's head of state during the human rights atrocities the government there perpetrated against the Rohingya people. Super bad shit - systematic rape and pillage, genocide, baby murder...the worst of the worst humanity does to each other.\nIt's complicated because of the military and political dynamics, and you should definitely look into how Facebook facilitated misinformation campaigns that drove things, but her hands are not clean.",
">\n\nthe military are the actual bad guys. she is guilty of being afraid they would throw a coup if she tried to criticize them, which turned out to be accurate."
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I mean, she literally had no other choice. The only way she was going to turn it around was to form a government majority large enough to override the tatmadaw, which happened in 2020. They then overthrew her and seized power before she could do anything.
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"A court found her guilty [on Friday] of corruption because she had not followed regulations in renting a helicopter for a government minister.\nShe had already been convicted of 14 different crimes including breaching Covid public safety rules, importing walkie-talkies and violating the official secrets act.\n\nBoy, that all sounds vague & spurious. Before I look into it: anybody think ASSK was criminally handing out joyrides in helicopters to the detriment of the nation?",
">\n\nOn the one hand, I feel like they're railroading her. On the other hand, I also think she's a piece of shit who deserves this, but for other reasons. Is this karma?",
">\n\nI'm ootl, why is she a pos?",
">\n\nWithout committing to the details, she's a Nobel Peace Prize laureate who later served as Myanmar's head of state during the human rights atrocities the government there perpetrated against the Rohingya people. Super bad shit - systematic rape and pillage, genocide, baby murder...the worst of the worst humanity does to each other.\nIt's complicated because of the military and political dynamics, and you should definitely look into how Facebook facilitated misinformation campaigns that drove things, but her hands are not clean.",
">\n\nthe military are the actual bad guys. she is guilty of being afraid they would throw a coup if she tried to criticize them, which turned out to be accurate.",
">\n\nBeing complicit to genocide is never the best choice in any situation."
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This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 78%. (I'm a bot)
A Myanmar military court has sentenced Aung San Suu Kyi to a further seven years in prison, taking her overall jail time to 33 years.
Amnesty International has previously said the "Relentless legal assault" on Ms Suu Kyi shows how the military has "Weaponised the courts to bring politically motivated or farcical charges against opponents".
The military's violent seizure of power last February triggered widespread demonstrations, prompting Myanmar's military to crack down on pro-democracy protesters and activists.
Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: military^#1 Myanmar^#2 court^#3 Suu^#4 Kyi^#5
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"A court found her guilty [on Friday] of corruption because she had not followed regulations in renting a helicopter for a government minister.\nShe had already been convicted of 14 different crimes including breaching Covid public safety rules, importing walkie-talkies and violating the official secrets act.\n\nBoy, that all sounds vague & spurious. Before I look into it: anybody think ASSK was criminally handing out joyrides in helicopters to the detriment of the nation?",
">\n\nOn the one hand, I feel like they're railroading her. On the other hand, I also think she's a piece of shit who deserves this, but for other reasons. Is this karma?",
">\n\nI'm ootl, why is she a pos?",
">\n\nWithout committing to the details, she's a Nobel Peace Prize laureate who later served as Myanmar's head of state during the human rights atrocities the government there perpetrated against the Rohingya people. Super bad shit - systematic rape and pillage, genocide, baby murder...the worst of the worst humanity does to each other.\nIt's complicated because of the military and political dynamics, and you should definitely look into how Facebook facilitated misinformation campaigns that drove things, but her hands are not clean.",
">\n\nthe military are the actual bad guys. she is guilty of being afraid they would throw a coup if she tried to criticize them, which turned out to be accurate.",
">\n\nBeing complicit to genocide is never the best choice in any situation.",
">\n\nI mean, she literally had no other choice. The only way she was going to turn it around was to form a government majority large enough to override the tatmadaw, which happened in 2020. They then overthrew her and seized power before she could do anything."
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Oh nooooo, well anyway.
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"A court found her guilty [on Friday] of corruption because she had not followed regulations in renting a helicopter for a government minister.\nShe had already been convicted of 14 different crimes including breaching Covid public safety rules, importing walkie-talkies and violating the official secrets act.\n\nBoy, that all sounds vague & spurious. Before I look into it: anybody think ASSK was criminally handing out joyrides in helicopters to the detriment of the nation?",
">\n\nOn the one hand, I feel like they're railroading her. On the other hand, I also think she's a piece of shit who deserves this, but for other reasons. Is this karma?",
">\n\nI'm ootl, why is she a pos?",
">\n\nWithout committing to the details, she's a Nobel Peace Prize laureate who later served as Myanmar's head of state during the human rights atrocities the government there perpetrated against the Rohingya people. Super bad shit - systematic rape and pillage, genocide, baby murder...the worst of the worst humanity does to each other.\nIt's complicated because of the military and political dynamics, and you should definitely look into how Facebook facilitated misinformation campaigns that drove things, but her hands are not clean.",
">\n\nthe military are the actual bad guys. she is guilty of being afraid they would throw a coup if she tried to criticize them, which turned out to be accurate.",
">\n\nBeing complicit to genocide is never the best choice in any situation.",
">\n\nI mean, she literally had no other choice. The only way she was going to turn it around was to form a government majority large enough to override the tatmadaw, which happened in 2020. They then overthrew her and seized power before she could do anything.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 78%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Myanmar military court has sentenced Aung San Suu Kyi to a further seven years in prison, taking her overall jail time to 33 years.\nAmnesty International has previously said the \"Relentless legal assault\" on Ms Suu Kyi shows how the military has \"Weaponised the courts to bring politically motivated or farcical charges against opponents\".\nThe military's violent seizure of power last February triggered widespread demonstrations, prompting Myanmar's military to crack down on pro-democracy protesters and activists.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: military^#1 Myanmar^#2 court^#3 Suu^#4 Kyi^#5"
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She did join the devil after that Nobel
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"A court found her guilty [on Friday] of corruption because she had not followed regulations in renting a helicopter for a government minister.\nShe had already been convicted of 14 different crimes including breaching Covid public safety rules, importing walkie-talkies and violating the official secrets act.\n\nBoy, that all sounds vague & spurious. Before I look into it: anybody think ASSK was criminally handing out joyrides in helicopters to the detriment of the nation?",
">\n\nOn the one hand, I feel like they're railroading her. On the other hand, I also think she's a piece of shit who deserves this, but for other reasons. Is this karma?",
">\n\nI'm ootl, why is she a pos?",
">\n\nWithout committing to the details, she's a Nobel Peace Prize laureate who later served as Myanmar's head of state during the human rights atrocities the government there perpetrated against the Rohingya people. Super bad shit - systematic rape and pillage, genocide, baby murder...the worst of the worst humanity does to each other.\nIt's complicated because of the military and political dynamics, and you should definitely look into how Facebook facilitated misinformation campaigns that drove things, but her hands are not clean.",
">\n\nthe military are the actual bad guys. she is guilty of being afraid they would throw a coup if she tried to criticize them, which turned out to be accurate.",
">\n\nBeing complicit to genocide is never the best choice in any situation.",
">\n\nI mean, she literally had no other choice. The only way she was going to turn it around was to form a government majority large enough to override the tatmadaw, which happened in 2020. They then overthrew her and seized power before she could do anything.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 78%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Myanmar military court has sentenced Aung San Suu Kyi to a further seven years in prison, taking her overall jail time to 33 years.\nAmnesty International has previously said the \"Relentless legal assault\" on Ms Suu Kyi shows how the military has \"Weaponised the courts to bring politically motivated or farcical charges against opponents\".\nThe military's violent seizure of power last February triggered widespread demonstrations, prompting Myanmar's military to crack down on pro-democracy protesters and activists.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: military^#1 Myanmar^#2 court^#3 Suu^#4 Kyi^#5",
">\n\nOh nooooo, well anyway."
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Dang! She sure bounces in and out.
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"A court found her guilty [on Friday] of corruption because she had not followed regulations in renting a helicopter for a government minister.\nShe had already been convicted of 14 different crimes including breaching Covid public safety rules, importing walkie-talkies and violating the official secrets act.\n\nBoy, that all sounds vague & spurious. Before I look into it: anybody think ASSK was criminally handing out joyrides in helicopters to the detriment of the nation?",
">\n\nOn the one hand, I feel like they're railroading her. On the other hand, I also think she's a piece of shit who deserves this, but for other reasons. Is this karma?",
">\n\nI'm ootl, why is she a pos?",
">\n\nWithout committing to the details, she's a Nobel Peace Prize laureate who later served as Myanmar's head of state during the human rights atrocities the government there perpetrated against the Rohingya people. Super bad shit - systematic rape and pillage, genocide, baby murder...the worst of the worst humanity does to each other.\nIt's complicated because of the military and political dynamics, and you should definitely look into how Facebook facilitated misinformation campaigns that drove things, but her hands are not clean.",
">\n\nthe military are the actual bad guys. she is guilty of being afraid they would throw a coup if she tried to criticize them, which turned out to be accurate.",
">\n\nBeing complicit to genocide is never the best choice in any situation.",
">\n\nI mean, she literally had no other choice. The only way she was going to turn it around was to form a government majority large enough to override the tatmadaw, which happened in 2020. They then overthrew her and seized power before she could do anything.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 78%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Myanmar military court has sentenced Aung San Suu Kyi to a further seven years in prison, taking her overall jail time to 33 years.\nAmnesty International has previously said the \"Relentless legal assault\" on Ms Suu Kyi shows how the military has \"Weaponised the courts to bring politically motivated or farcical charges against opponents\".\nThe military's violent seizure of power last February triggered widespread demonstrations, prompting Myanmar's military to crack down on pro-democracy protesters and activists.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: military^#1 Myanmar^#2 court^#3 Suu^#4 Kyi^#5",
">\n\nOh nooooo, well anyway.",
">\n\nShe did join the devil after that Nobel"
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she's 77 years old. Im sure another 7 years is relevant here.
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"A court found her guilty [on Friday] of corruption because she had not followed regulations in renting a helicopter for a government minister.\nShe had already been convicted of 14 different crimes including breaching Covid public safety rules, importing walkie-talkies and violating the official secrets act.\n\nBoy, that all sounds vague & spurious. Before I look into it: anybody think ASSK was criminally handing out joyrides in helicopters to the detriment of the nation?",
">\n\nOn the one hand, I feel like they're railroading her. On the other hand, I also think she's a piece of shit who deserves this, but for other reasons. Is this karma?",
">\n\nI'm ootl, why is she a pos?",
">\n\nWithout committing to the details, she's a Nobel Peace Prize laureate who later served as Myanmar's head of state during the human rights atrocities the government there perpetrated against the Rohingya people. Super bad shit - systematic rape and pillage, genocide, baby murder...the worst of the worst humanity does to each other.\nIt's complicated because of the military and political dynamics, and you should definitely look into how Facebook facilitated misinformation campaigns that drove things, but her hands are not clean.",
">\n\nthe military are the actual bad guys. she is guilty of being afraid they would throw a coup if she tried to criticize them, which turned out to be accurate.",
">\n\nBeing complicit to genocide is never the best choice in any situation.",
">\n\nI mean, she literally had no other choice. The only way she was going to turn it around was to form a government majority large enough to override the tatmadaw, which happened in 2020. They then overthrew her and seized power before she could do anything.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 78%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Myanmar military court has sentenced Aung San Suu Kyi to a further seven years in prison, taking her overall jail time to 33 years.\nAmnesty International has previously said the \"Relentless legal assault\" on Ms Suu Kyi shows how the military has \"Weaponised the courts to bring politically motivated or farcical charges against opponents\".\nThe military's violent seizure of power last February triggered widespread demonstrations, prompting Myanmar's military to crack down on pro-democracy protesters and activists.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: military^#1 Myanmar^#2 court^#3 Suu^#4 Kyi^#5",
">\n\nOh nooooo, well anyway.",
">\n\nShe did join the devil after that Nobel",
">\n\nDang! She sure bounces in and out."
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"A court found her guilty [on Friday] of corruption because she had not followed regulations in renting a helicopter for a government minister.\nShe had already been convicted of 14 different crimes including breaching Covid public safety rules, importing walkie-talkies and violating the official secrets act.\n\nBoy, that all sounds vague & spurious. Before I look into it: anybody think ASSK was criminally handing out joyrides in helicopters to the detriment of the nation?",
">\n\nOn the one hand, I feel like they're railroading her. On the other hand, I also think she's a piece of shit who deserves this, but for other reasons. Is this karma?",
">\n\nI'm ootl, why is she a pos?",
">\n\nWithout committing to the details, she's a Nobel Peace Prize laureate who later served as Myanmar's head of state during the human rights atrocities the government there perpetrated against the Rohingya people. Super bad shit - systematic rape and pillage, genocide, baby murder...the worst of the worst humanity does to each other.\nIt's complicated because of the military and political dynamics, and you should definitely look into how Facebook facilitated misinformation campaigns that drove things, but her hands are not clean.",
">\n\nthe military are the actual bad guys. she is guilty of being afraid they would throw a coup if she tried to criticize them, which turned out to be accurate.",
">\n\nBeing complicit to genocide is never the best choice in any situation.",
">\n\nI mean, she literally had no other choice. The only way she was going to turn it around was to form a government majority large enough to override the tatmadaw, which happened in 2020. They then overthrew her and seized power before she could do anything.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 78%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Myanmar military court has sentenced Aung San Suu Kyi to a further seven years in prison, taking her overall jail time to 33 years.\nAmnesty International has previously said the \"Relentless legal assault\" on Ms Suu Kyi shows how the military has \"Weaponised the courts to bring politically motivated or farcical charges against opponents\".\nThe military's violent seizure of power last February triggered widespread demonstrations, prompting Myanmar's military to crack down on pro-democracy protesters and activists.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: military^#1 Myanmar^#2 court^#3 Suu^#4 Kyi^#5",
">\n\nOh nooooo, well anyway.",
">\n\nShe did join the devil after that Nobel",
">\n\nDang! She sure bounces in and out.",
">\n\nshe's 77 years old. Im sure another 7 years is relevant here."
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Already back in custody. Turned herself in.
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She just needed to dip for a second. Grab some smokes and a coke. It's all good....right??
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"Already back in custody. Turned herself in."
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It's Winnipeg!
She was grabbing a slurpee
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"Already back in custody. Turned herself in.",
">\n\nShe just needed to dip for a second. Grab some smokes and a coke. It's all good....right??"
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Smokes are too expensive anyways
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"Already back in custody. Turned herself in.",
">\n\nShe just needed to dip for a second. Grab some smokes and a coke. It's all good....right??",
">\n\nIt's Winnipeg! \nShe was grabbing a slurpee"
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She apparently just walked out the door. I guess minimum security is weirdly similar to zero security.
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"Already back in custody. Turned herself in.",
">\n\nShe just needed to dip for a second. Grab some smokes and a coke. It's all good....right??",
">\n\nIt's Winnipeg! \nShe was grabbing a slurpee",
">\n\nSmokes are too expensive anyways"
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And she subsequently turned herself in. Seems like she was minimum security for a reason. This doesn't seem like the public is at serious risk.
Edit:
For context, she's had substance abuse problems since she was 8, was sexually abused from the age of 11, and killed her partner (with whom she was in a toxic and abusive relationship - seems like the abuse went both ways) while seriously intoxicated, after having already made attempts to get help/support. Before killing him, she first tried to kill herself.
If you read her life history it's very sad. She is also currently eligible for parole (was given life but eligible after 10 years).
Given how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day. A lot of people want to see this as a failure because she managed to escape, but you can also see this as a success because afterwards she chose to do the responsible thing and quickly turned herself in.
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"Already back in custody. Turned herself in.",
">\n\nShe just needed to dip for a second. Grab some smokes and a coke. It's all good....right??",
">\n\nIt's Winnipeg! \nShe was grabbing a slurpee",
">\n\nSmokes are too expensive anyways",
">\n\nShe apparently just walked out the door. I guess minimum security is weirdly similar to zero security."
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Given how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day.
Ah yes, personal responsibility doesn't exist, humans can't be held responsible for their own actions like dogs.
If a pet dog becomes obese, it's your fault.
If someone murders your loved ones, it's also your fault.
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"Already back in custody. Turned herself in.",
">\n\nShe just needed to dip for a second. Grab some smokes and a coke. It's all good....right??",
">\n\nIt's Winnipeg! \nShe was grabbing a slurpee",
">\n\nSmokes are too expensive anyways",
">\n\nShe apparently just walked out the door. I guess minimum security is weirdly similar to zero security.",
">\n\nAnd she subsequently turned herself in. Seems like she was minimum security for a reason. This doesn't seem like the public is at serious risk.\nEdit:\nFor context, she's had substance abuse problems since she was 8, was sexually abused from the age of 11, and killed her partner (with whom she was in a toxic and abusive relationship - seems like the abuse went both ways) while seriously intoxicated, after having already made attempts to get help/support. Before killing him, she first tried to kill herself.\nIf you read her life history it's very sad. She is also currently eligible for parole (was given life but eligible after 10 years). \nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day. A lot of people want to see this as a failure because she managed to escape, but you can also see this as a success because afterwards she chose to do the responsible thing and quickly turned herself in."
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Try reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own.
You're basically just telling her to pull herself up by her bootstraps.
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"Already back in custody. Turned herself in.",
">\n\nShe just needed to dip for a second. Grab some smokes and a coke. It's all good....right??",
">\n\nIt's Winnipeg! \nShe was grabbing a slurpee",
">\n\nSmokes are too expensive anyways",
">\n\nShe apparently just walked out the door. I guess minimum security is weirdly similar to zero security.",
">\n\nAnd she subsequently turned herself in. Seems like she was minimum security for a reason. This doesn't seem like the public is at serious risk.\nEdit:\nFor context, she's had substance abuse problems since she was 8, was sexually abused from the age of 11, and killed her partner (with whom she was in a toxic and abusive relationship - seems like the abuse went both ways) while seriously intoxicated, after having already made attempts to get help/support. Before killing him, she first tried to kill herself.\nIf you read her life history it's very sad. She is also currently eligible for parole (was given life but eligible after 10 years). \nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day. A lot of people want to see this as a failure because she managed to escape, but you can also see this as a success because afterwards she chose to do the responsible thing and quickly turned herself in.",
">\n\n\nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day.\n\nAh yes, personal responsibility doesn't exist, humans can't be held responsible for their own actions like dogs. \nIf a pet dog becomes obese, it's your fault.\nIf someone murders your loved ones, it's also your fault."
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Try reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own.
Lots of people grow up disadvantaged and in desperate/dangerous environments and almost all of them aren't murderers.
Just because you were delt a bad hand in life doesn't mean you get to murder people and get off with a slap on the wrist.
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"Already back in custody. Turned herself in.",
">\n\nShe just needed to dip for a second. Grab some smokes and a coke. It's all good....right??",
">\n\nIt's Winnipeg! \nShe was grabbing a slurpee",
">\n\nSmokes are too expensive anyways",
">\n\nShe apparently just walked out the door. I guess minimum security is weirdly similar to zero security.",
">\n\nAnd she subsequently turned herself in. Seems like she was minimum security for a reason. This doesn't seem like the public is at serious risk.\nEdit:\nFor context, she's had substance abuse problems since she was 8, was sexually abused from the age of 11, and killed her partner (with whom she was in a toxic and abusive relationship - seems like the abuse went both ways) while seriously intoxicated, after having already made attempts to get help/support. Before killing him, she first tried to kill herself.\nIf you read her life history it's very sad. She is also currently eligible for parole (was given life but eligible after 10 years). \nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day. A lot of people want to see this as a failure because she managed to escape, but you can also see this as a success because afterwards she chose to do the responsible thing and quickly turned herself in.",
">\n\n\nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day.\n\nAh yes, personal responsibility doesn't exist, humans can't be held responsible for their own actions like dogs. \nIf a pet dog becomes obese, it's your fault.\nIf someone murders your loved ones, it's also your fault.",
">\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \nYou're basically just telling her to pull herself up by her bootstraps."
] |
>
How dumb are you? It's like you read one or two sentences and now you know everything you need to know to make a hard line assumption. Then you manage to go and do it again! The ignorance is palpable
|
[
"Already back in custody. Turned herself in.",
">\n\nShe just needed to dip for a second. Grab some smokes and a coke. It's all good....right??",
">\n\nIt's Winnipeg! \nShe was grabbing a slurpee",
">\n\nSmokes are too expensive anyways",
">\n\nShe apparently just walked out the door. I guess minimum security is weirdly similar to zero security.",
">\n\nAnd she subsequently turned herself in. Seems like she was minimum security for a reason. This doesn't seem like the public is at serious risk.\nEdit:\nFor context, she's had substance abuse problems since she was 8, was sexually abused from the age of 11, and killed her partner (with whom she was in a toxic and abusive relationship - seems like the abuse went both ways) while seriously intoxicated, after having already made attempts to get help/support. Before killing him, she first tried to kill herself.\nIf you read her life history it's very sad. She is also currently eligible for parole (was given life but eligible after 10 years). \nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day. A lot of people want to see this as a failure because she managed to escape, but you can also see this as a success because afterwards she chose to do the responsible thing and quickly turned herself in.",
">\n\n\nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day.\n\nAh yes, personal responsibility doesn't exist, humans can't be held responsible for their own actions like dogs. \nIf a pet dog becomes obese, it's your fault.\nIf someone murders your loved ones, it's also your fault.",
">\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \nYou're basically just telling her to pull herself up by her bootstraps.",
">\n\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \n\nLots of people grow up disadvantaged and in desperate/dangerous environments and almost all of them aren't murderers.\nJust because you were delt a bad hand in life doesn't mean you get to murder people and get off with a slap on the wrist."
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>
They aren't dumb they just refuse to recognize shades of grey because if personal responsibility doesn't matter as much as he thinks it is, what has personal his effort amount to?
It's an existential fear.
|
[
"Already back in custody. Turned herself in.",
">\n\nShe just needed to dip for a second. Grab some smokes and a coke. It's all good....right??",
">\n\nIt's Winnipeg! \nShe was grabbing a slurpee",
">\n\nSmokes are too expensive anyways",
">\n\nShe apparently just walked out the door. I guess minimum security is weirdly similar to zero security.",
">\n\nAnd she subsequently turned herself in. Seems like she was minimum security for a reason. This doesn't seem like the public is at serious risk.\nEdit:\nFor context, she's had substance abuse problems since she was 8, was sexually abused from the age of 11, and killed her partner (with whom she was in a toxic and abusive relationship - seems like the abuse went both ways) while seriously intoxicated, after having already made attempts to get help/support. Before killing him, she first tried to kill herself.\nIf you read her life history it's very sad. She is also currently eligible for parole (was given life but eligible after 10 years). \nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day. A lot of people want to see this as a failure because she managed to escape, but you can also see this as a success because afterwards she chose to do the responsible thing and quickly turned herself in.",
">\n\n\nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day.\n\nAh yes, personal responsibility doesn't exist, humans can't be held responsible for their own actions like dogs. \nIf a pet dog becomes obese, it's your fault.\nIf someone murders your loved ones, it's also your fault.",
">\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \nYou're basically just telling her to pull herself up by her bootstraps.",
">\n\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \n\nLots of people grow up disadvantaged and in desperate/dangerous environments and almost all of them aren't murderers.\nJust because you were delt a bad hand in life doesn't mean you get to murder people and get off with a slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nHow dumb are you? It's like you read one or two sentences and now you know everything you need to know to make a hard line assumption. Then you manage to go and do it again! The ignorance is palpable"
] |
>
I think intelligence 100% plays a role in their world view.
|
[
"Already back in custody. Turned herself in.",
">\n\nShe just needed to dip for a second. Grab some smokes and a coke. It's all good....right??",
">\n\nIt's Winnipeg! \nShe was grabbing a slurpee",
">\n\nSmokes are too expensive anyways",
">\n\nShe apparently just walked out the door. I guess minimum security is weirdly similar to zero security.",
">\n\nAnd she subsequently turned herself in. Seems like she was minimum security for a reason. This doesn't seem like the public is at serious risk.\nEdit:\nFor context, she's had substance abuse problems since she was 8, was sexually abused from the age of 11, and killed her partner (with whom she was in a toxic and abusive relationship - seems like the abuse went both ways) while seriously intoxicated, after having already made attempts to get help/support. Before killing him, she first tried to kill herself.\nIf you read her life history it's very sad. She is also currently eligible for parole (was given life but eligible after 10 years). \nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day. A lot of people want to see this as a failure because she managed to escape, but you can also see this as a success because afterwards she chose to do the responsible thing and quickly turned herself in.",
">\n\n\nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day.\n\nAh yes, personal responsibility doesn't exist, humans can't be held responsible for their own actions like dogs. \nIf a pet dog becomes obese, it's your fault.\nIf someone murders your loved ones, it's also your fault.",
">\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \nYou're basically just telling her to pull herself up by her bootstraps.",
">\n\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \n\nLots of people grow up disadvantaged and in desperate/dangerous environments and almost all of them aren't murderers.\nJust because you were delt a bad hand in life doesn't mean you get to murder people and get off with a slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nHow dumb are you? It's like you read one or two sentences and now you know everything you need to know to make a hard line assumption. Then you manage to go and do it again! The ignorance is palpable",
">\n\nThey aren't dumb they just refuse to recognize shades of grey because if personal responsibility doesn't matter as much as he thinks it is, what has personal his effort amount to?\nIt's an existential fear."
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“Healing lodge” sounds like it could either be a rehabilitation centre (aka the biggest investment and best opportunity an American will ever be given by their government) or a torture chamber, nothing in between.
This headline also kind of sounds like panic food clickbait. If the person is left free to roam a low security place like that i’d imagine they have either been proven trustworthy and this is a test on their path to rehab, or it’s their only chance at proving their past doesn’t define them.
|
[
"Already back in custody. Turned herself in.",
">\n\nShe just needed to dip for a second. Grab some smokes and a coke. It's all good....right??",
">\n\nIt's Winnipeg! \nShe was grabbing a slurpee",
">\n\nSmokes are too expensive anyways",
">\n\nShe apparently just walked out the door. I guess minimum security is weirdly similar to zero security.",
">\n\nAnd she subsequently turned herself in. Seems like she was minimum security for a reason. This doesn't seem like the public is at serious risk.\nEdit:\nFor context, she's had substance abuse problems since she was 8, was sexually abused from the age of 11, and killed her partner (with whom she was in a toxic and abusive relationship - seems like the abuse went both ways) while seriously intoxicated, after having already made attempts to get help/support. Before killing him, she first tried to kill herself.\nIf you read her life history it's very sad. She is also currently eligible for parole (was given life but eligible after 10 years). \nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day. A lot of people want to see this as a failure because she managed to escape, but you can also see this as a success because afterwards she chose to do the responsible thing and quickly turned herself in.",
">\n\n\nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day.\n\nAh yes, personal responsibility doesn't exist, humans can't be held responsible for their own actions like dogs. \nIf a pet dog becomes obese, it's your fault.\nIf someone murders your loved ones, it's also your fault.",
">\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \nYou're basically just telling her to pull herself up by her bootstraps.",
">\n\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \n\nLots of people grow up disadvantaged and in desperate/dangerous environments and almost all of them aren't murderers.\nJust because you were delt a bad hand in life doesn't mean you get to murder people and get off with a slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nHow dumb are you? It's like you read one or two sentences and now you know everything you need to know to make a hard line assumption. Then you manage to go and do it again! The ignorance is palpable",
">\n\nThey aren't dumb they just refuse to recognize shades of grey because if personal responsibility doesn't matter as much as he thinks it is, what has personal his effort amount to?\nIt's an existential fear.",
">\n\nI think intelligence 100% plays a role in their world view."
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>
This is in Canada.
Lol the states wouldn’t invest in healing lodges.
|
[
"Already back in custody. Turned herself in.",
">\n\nShe just needed to dip for a second. Grab some smokes and a coke. It's all good....right??",
">\n\nIt's Winnipeg! \nShe was grabbing a slurpee",
">\n\nSmokes are too expensive anyways",
">\n\nShe apparently just walked out the door. I guess minimum security is weirdly similar to zero security.",
">\n\nAnd she subsequently turned herself in. Seems like she was minimum security for a reason. This doesn't seem like the public is at serious risk.\nEdit:\nFor context, she's had substance abuse problems since she was 8, was sexually abused from the age of 11, and killed her partner (with whom she was in a toxic and abusive relationship - seems like the abuse went both ways) while seriously intoxicated, after having already made attempts to get help/support. Before killing him, she first tried to kill herself.\nIf you read her life history it's very sad. She is also currently eligible for parole (was given life but eligible after 10 years). \nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day. A lot of people want to see this as a failure because she managed to escape, but you can also see this as a success because afterwards she chose to do the responsible thing and quickly turned herself in.",
">\n\n\nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day.\n\nAh yes, personal responsibility doesn't exist, humans can't be held responsible for their own actions like dogs. \nIf a pet dog becomes obese, it's your fault.\nIf someone murders your loved ones, it's also your fault.",
">\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \nYou're basically just telling her to pull herself up by her bootstraps.",
">\n\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \n\nLots of people grow up disadvantaged and in desperate/dangerous environments and almost all of them aren't murderers.\nJust because you were delt a bad hand in life doesn't mean you get to murder people and get off with a slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nHow dumb are you? It's like you read one or two sentences and now you know everything you need to know to make a hard line assumption. Then you manage to go and do it again! The ignorance is palpable",
">\n\nThey aren't dumb they just refuse to recognize shades of grey because if personal responsibility doesn't matter as much as he thinks it is, what has personal his effort amount to?\nIt's an existential fear.",
">\n\nI think intelligence 100% plays a role in their world view.",
">\n\n“Healing lodge” sounds like it could either be a rehabilitation centre (aka the biggest investment and best opportunity an American will ever be given by their government) or a torture chamber, nothing in between.\nThis headline also kind of sounds like panic food clickbait. If the person is left free to roam a low security place like that i’d imagine they have either been proven trustworthy and this is a test on their path to rehab, or it’s their only chance at proving their past doesn’t define them."
] |
>
Aww, i had just regained a tiny bit of faith in the US. Should’ve figured if it’s on the American continent and features even a sliver of sustainability or hope for the future it’d be in Canada…
|
[
"Already back in custody. Turned herself in.",
">\n\nShe just needed to dip for a second. Grab some smokes and a coke. It's all good....right??",
">\n\nIt's Winnipeg! \nShe was grabbing a slurpee",
">\n\nSmokes are too expensive anyways",
">\n\nShe apparently just walked out the door. I guess minimum security is weirdly similar to zero security.",
">\n\nAnd she subsequently turned herself in. Seems like she was minimum security for a reason. This doesn't seem like the public is at serious risk.\nEdit:\nFor context, she's had substance abuse problems since she was 8, was sexually abused from the age of 11, and killed her partner (with whom she was in a toxic and abusive relationship - seems like the abuse went both ways) while seriously intoxicated, after having already made attempts to get help/support. Before killing him, she first tried to kill herself.\nIf you read her life history it's very sad. She is also currently eligible for parole (was given life but eligible after 10 years). \nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day. A lot of people want to see this as a failure because she managed to escape, but you can also see this as a success because afterwards she chose to do the responsible thing and quickly turned herself in.",
">\n\n\nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day.\n\nAh yes, personal responsibility doesn't exist, humans can't be held responsible for their own actions like dogs. \nIf a pet dog becomes obese, it's your fault.\nIf someone murders your loved ones, it's also your fault.",
">\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \nYou're basically just telling her to pull herself up by her bootstraps.",
">\n\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \n\nLots of people grow up disadvantaged and in desperate/dangerous environments and almost all of them aren't murderers.\nJust because you were delt a bad hand in life doesn't mean you get to murder people and get off with a slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nHow dumb are you? It's like you read one or two sentences and now you know everything you need to know to make a hard line assumption. Then you manage to go and do it again! The ignorance is palpable",
">\n\nThey aren't dumb they just refuse to recognize shades of grey because if personal responsibility doesn't matter as much as he thinks it is, what has personal his effort amount to?\nIt's an existential fear.",
">\n\nI think intelligence 100% plays a role in their world view.",
">\n\n“Healing lodge” sounds like it could either be a rehabilitation centre (aka the biggest investment and best opportunity an American will ever be given by their government) or a torture chamber, nothing in between.\nThis headline also kind of sounds like panic food clickbait. If the person is left free to roam a low security place like that i’d imagine they have either been proven trustworthy and this is a test on their path to rehab, or it’s their only chance at proving their past doesn’t define them.",
">\n\nThis is in Canada. \nLol the states wouldn’t invest in healing lodges."
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>
It doesn’t really seem like anyone tried to stop her, so it doesn’t sound like much of an escape
|
[
"Already back in custody. Turned herself in.",
">\n\nShe just needed to dip for a second. Grab some smokes and a coke. It's all good....right??",
">\n\nIt's Winnipeg! \nShe was grabbing a slurpee",
">\n\nSmokes are too expensive anyways",
">\n\nShe apparently just walked out the door. I guess minimum security is weirdly similar to zero security.",
">\n\nAnd she subsequently turned herself in. Seems like she was minimum security for a reason. This doesn't seem like the public is at serious risk.\nEdit:\nFor context, she's had substance abuse problems since she was 8, was sexually abused from the age of 11, and killed her partner (with whom she was in a toxic and abusive relationship - seems like the abuse went both ways) while seriously intoxicated, after having already made attempts to get help/support. Before killing him, she first tried to kill herself.\nIf you read her life history it's very sad. She is also currently eligible for parole (was given life but eligible after 10 years). \nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day. A lot of people want to see this as a failure because she managed to escape, but you can also see this as a success because afterwards she chose to do the responsible thing and quickly turned herself in.",
">\n\n\nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day.\n\nAh yes, personal responsibility doesn't exist, humans can't be held responsible for their own actions like dogs. \nIf a pet dog becomes obese, it's your fault.\nIf someone murders your loved ones, it's also your fault.",
">\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \nYou're basically just telling her to pull herself up by her bootstraps.",
">\n\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \n\nLots of people grow up disadvantaged and in desperate/dangerous environments and almost all of them aren't murderers.\nJust because you were delt a bad hand in life doesn't mean you get to murder people and get off with a slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nHow dumb are you? It's like you read one or two sentences and now you know everything you need to know to make a hard line assumption. Then you manage to go and do it again! The ignorance is palpable",
">\n\nThey aren't dumb they just refuse to recognize shades of grey because if personal responsibility doesn't matter as much as he thinks it is, what has personal his effort amount to?\nIt's an existential fear.",
">\n\nI think intelligence 100% plays a role in their world view.",
">\n\n“Healing lodge” sounds like it could either be a rehabilitation centre (aka the biggest investment and best opportunity an American will ever be given by their government) or a torture chamber, nothing in between.\nThis headline also kind of sounds like panic food clickbait. If the person is left free to roam a low security place like that i’d imagine they have either been proven trustworthy and this is a test on their path to rehab, or it’s their only chance at proving their past doesn’t define them.",
">\n\nThis is in Canada. \nLol the states wouldn’t invest in healing lodges.",
">\n\nAww, i had just regained a tiny bit of faith in the US. Should’ve figured if it’s on the American continent and features even a sliver of sustainability or hope for the future it’d be in Canada…"
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>
Well Attorney thurrrst0n, you're wrong.
|
[
"Already back in custody. Turned herself in.",
">\n\nShe just needed to dip for a second. Grab some smokes and a coke. It's all good....right??",
">\n\nIt's Winnipeg! \nShe was grabbing a slurpee",
">\n\nSmokes are too expensive anyways",
">\n\nShe apparently just walked out the door. I guess minimum security is weirdly similar to zero security.",
">\n\nAnd she subsequently turned herself in. Seems like she was minimum security for a reason. This doesn't seem like the public is at serious risk.\nEdit:\nFor context, she's had substance abuse problems since she was 8, was sexually abused from the age of 11, and killed her partner (with whom she was in a toxic and abusive relationship - seems like the abuse went both ways) while seriously intoxicated, after having already made attempts to get help/support. Before killing him, she first tried to kill herself.\nIf you read her life history it's very sad. She is also currently eligible for parole (was given life but eligible after 10 years). \nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day. A lot of people want to see this as a failure because she managed to escape, but you can also see this as a success because afterwards she chose to do the responsible thing and quickly turned herself in.",
">\n\n\nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day.\n\nAh yes, personal responsibility doesn't exist, humans can't be held responsible for their own actions like dogs. \nIf a pet dog becomes obese, it's your fault.\nIf someone murders your loved ones, it's also your fault.",
">\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \nYou're basically just telling her to pull herself up by her bootstraps.",
">\n\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \n\nLots of people grow up disadvantaged and in desperate/dangerous environments and almost all of them aren't murderers.\nJust because you were delt a bad hand in life doesn't mean you get to murder people and get off with a slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nHow dumb are you? It's like you read one or two sentences and now you know everything you need to know to make a hard line assumption. Then you manage to go and do it again! The ignorance is palpable",
">\n\nThey aren't dumb they just refuse to recognize shades of grey because if personal responsibility doesn't matter as much as he thinks it is, what has personal his effort amount to?\nIt's an existential fear.",
">\n\nI think intelligence 100% plays a role in their world view.",
">\n\n“Healing lodge” sounds like it could either be a rehabilitation centre (aka the biggest investment and best opportunity an American will ever be given by their government) or a torture chamber, nothing in between.\nThis headline also kind of sounds like panic food clickbait. If the person is left free to roam a low security place like that i’d imagine they have either been proven trustworthy and this is a test on their path to rehab, or it’s their only chance at proving their past doesn’t define them.",
">\n\nThis is in Canada. \nLol the states wouldn’t invest in healing lodges.",
">\n\nAww, i had just regained a tiny bit of faith in the US. Should’ve figured if it’s on the American continent and features even a sliver of sustainability or hope for the future it’d be in Canada…",
">\n\nIt doesn’t really seem like anyone tried to stop her, so it doesn’t sound like much of an escape"
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The title says "murderer", but there are several levels of killing someone, highest being premeditated murder to manslaughter.
What was she charged with, convicted of? Her history kind of makes me believe her conviction was on the lower end.
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[
"Already back in custody. Turned herself in.",
">\n\nShe just needed to dip for a second. Grab some smokes and a coke. It's all good....right??",
">\n\nIt's Winnipeg! \nShe was grabbing a slurpee",
">\n\nSmokes are too expensive anyways",
">\n\nShe apparently just walked out the door. I guess minimum security is weirdly similar to zero security.",
">\n\nAnd she subsequently turned herself in. Seems like she was minimum security for a reason. This doesn't seem like the public is at serious risk.\nEdit:\nFor context, she's had substance abuse problems since she was 8, was sexually abused from the age of 11, and killed her partner (with whom she was in a toxic and abusive relationship - seems like the abuse went both ways) while seriously intoxicated, after having already made attempts to get help/support. Before killing him, she first tried to kill herself.\nIf you read her life history it's very sad. She is also currently eligible for parole (was given life but eligible after 10 years). \nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day. A lot of people want to see this as a failure because she managed to escape, but you can also see this as a success because afterwards she chose to do the responsible thing and quickly turned herself in.",
">\n\n\nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day.\n\nAh yes, personal responsibility doesn't exist, humans can't be held responsible for their own actions like dogs. \nIf a pet dog becomes obese, it's your fault.\nIf someone murders your loved ones, it's also your fault.",
">\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \nYou're basically just telling her to pull herself up by her bootstraps.",
">\n\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \n\nLots of people grow up disadvantaged and in desperate/dangerous environments and almost all of them aren't murderers.\nJust because you were delt a bad hand in life doesn't mean you get to murder people and get off with a slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nHow dumb are you? It's like you read one or two sentences and now you know everything you need to know to make a hard line assumption. Then you manage to go and do it again! The ignorance is palpable",
">\n\nThey aren't dumb they just refuse to recognize shades of grey because if personal responsibility doesn't matter as much as he thinks it is, what has personal his effort amount to?\nIt's an existential fear.",
">\n\nI think intelligence 100% plays a role in their world view.",
">\n\n“Healing lodge” sounds like it could either be a rehabilitation centre (aka the biggest investment and best opportunity an American will ever be given by their government) or a torture chamber, nothing in between.\nThis headline also kind of sounds like panic food clickbait. If the person is left free to roam a low security place like that i’d imagine they have either been proven trustworthy and this is a test on their path to rehab, or it’s their only chance at proving their past doesn’t define them.",
">\n\nThis is in Canada. \nLol the states wouldn’t invest in healing lodges.",
">\n\nAww, i had just regained a tiny bit of faith in the US. Should’ve figured if it’s on the American continent and features even a sliver of sustainability or hope for the future it’d be in Canada…",
">\n\nIt doesn’t really seem like anyone tried to stop her, so it doesn’t sound like much of an escape",
">\n\nWell Attorney thurrrst0n, you're wrong."
] |
>
Sentencing also takes into account the circumstances, so it's not just one blanket sentence for each specific charge. The woman suffered a lot of childhood trauma, was in a toxic and abusive relationship, and tried to kill herself before she killed her partner. Add to all that the lingering generational trauma of Native people. I don't think a second chance should be out of the question for her if she's able to be helped into a more stable frame of mind and lifestyle through rehabilitation. It's not like she's a serial killer
|
[
"Already back in custody. Turned herself in.",
">\n\nShe just needed to dip for a second. Grab some smokes and a coke. It's all good....right??",
">\n\nIt's Winnipeg! \nShe was grabbing a slurpee",
">\n\nSmokes are too expensive anyways",
">\n\nShe apparently just walked out the door. I guess minimum security is weirdly similar to zero security.",
">\n\nAnd she subsequently turned herself in. Seems like she was minimum security for a reason. This doesn't seem like the public is at serious risk.\nEdit:\nFor context, she's had substance abuse problems since she was 8, was sexually abused from the age of 11, and killed her partner (with whom she was in a toxic and abusive relationship - seems like the abuse went both ways) while seriously intoxicated, after having already made attempts to get help/support. Before killing him, she first tried to kill herself.\nIf you read her life history it's very sad. She is also currently eligible for parole (was given life but eligible after 10 years). \nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day. A lot of people want to see this as a failure because she managed to escape, but you can also see this as a success because afterwards she chose to do the responsible thing and quickly turned herself in.",
">\n\n\nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day.\n\nAh yes, personal responsibility doesn't exist, humans can't be held responsible for their own actions like dogs. \nIf a pet dog becomes obese, it's your fault.\nIf someone murders your loved ones, it's also your fault.",
">\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \nYou're basically just telling her to pull herself up by her bootstraps.",
">\n\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \n\nLots of people grow up disadvantaged and in desperate/dangerous environments and almost all of them aren't murderers.\nJust because you were delt a bad hand in life doesn't mean you get to murder people and get off with a slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nHow dumb are you? It's like you read one or two sentences and now you know everything you need to know to make a hard line assumption. Then you manage to go and do it again! The ignorance is palpable",
">\n\nThey aren't dumb they just refuse to recognize shades of grey because if personal responsibility doesn't matter as much as he thinks it is, what has personal his effort amount to?\nIt's an existential fear.",
">\n\nI think intelligence 100% plays a role in their world view.",
">\n\n“Healing lodge” sounds like it could either be a rehabilitation centre (aka the biggest investment and best opportunity an American will ever be given by their government) or a torture chamber, nothing in between.\nThis headline also kind of sounds like panic food clickbait. If the person is left free to roam a low security place like that i’d imagine they have either been proven trustworthy and this is a test on their path to rehab, or it’s their only chance at proving their past doesn’t define them.",
">\n\nThis is in Canada. \nLol the states wouldn’t invest in healing lodges.",
">\n\nAww, i had just regained a tiny bit of faith in the US. Should’ve figured if it’s on the American continent and features even a sliver of sustainability or hope for the future it’d be in Canada…",
">\n\nIt doesn’t really seem like anyone tried to stop her, so it doesn’t sound like much of an escape",
">\n\nWell Attorney thurrrst0n, you're wrong.",
">\n\nThe title says \"murderer\", but there are several levels of killing someone, highest being premeditated murder to manslaughter. \nWhat was she charged with, convicted of? Her history kind of makes me believe her conviction was on the lower end."
] |
>
Damn. Usually when people murder someone cuz their life is fucked up I always say why didn't you just kill yourself if life sucked so much, why kill someone else.
But she actually did try to kill herself first, poor woman must have truly felt trapped
|
[
"Already back in custody. Turned herself in.",
">\n\nShe just needed to dip for a second. Grab some smokes and a coke. It's all good....right??",
">\n\nIt's Winnipeg! \nShe was grabbing a slurpee",
">\n\nSmokes are too expensive anyways",
">\n\nShe apparently just walked out the door. I guess minimum security is weirdly similar to zero security.",
">\n\nAnd she subsequently turned herself in. Seems like she was minimum security for a reason. This doesn't seem like the public is at serious risk.\nEdit:\nFor context, she's had substance abuse problems since she was 8, was sexually abused from the age of 11, and killed her partner (with whom she was in a toxic and abusive relationship - seems like the abuse went both ways) while seriously intoxicated, after having already made attempts to get help/support. Before killing him, she first tried to kill herself.\nIf you read her life history it's very sad. She is also currently eligible for parole (was given life but eligible after 10 years). \nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day. A lot of people want to see this as a failure because she managed to escape, but you can also see this as a success because afterwards she chose to do the responsible thing and quickly turned herself in.",
">\n\n\nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day.\n\nAh yes, personal responsibility doesn't exist, humans can't be held responsible for their own actions like dogs. \nIf a pet dog becomes obese, it's your fault.\nIf someone murders your loved ones, it's also your fault.",
">\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \nYou're basically just telling her to pull herself up by her bootstraps.",
">\n\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \n\nLots of people grow up disadvantaged and in desperate/dangerous environments and almost all of them aren't murderers.\nJust because you were delt a bad hand in life doesn't mean you get to murder people and get off with a slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nHow dumb are you? It's like you read one or two sentences and now you know everything you need to know to make a hard line assumption. Then you manage to go and do it again! The ignorance is palpable",
">\n\nThey aren't dumb they just refuse to recognize shades of grey because if personal responsibility doesn't matter as much as he thinks it is, what has personal his effort amount to?\nIt's an existential fear.",
">\n\nI think intelligence 100% plays a role in their world view.",
">\n\n“Healing lodge” sounds like it could either be a rehabilitation centre (aka the biggest investment and best opportunity an American will ever be given by their government) or a torture chamber, nothing in between.\nThis headline also kind of sounds like panic food clickbait. If the person is left free to roam a low security place like that i’d imagine they have either been proven trustworthy and this is a test on their path to rehab, or it’s their only chance at proving their past doesn’t define them.",
">\n\nThis is in Canada. \nLol the states wouldn’t invest in healing lodges.",
">\n\nAww, i had just regained a tiny bit of faith in the US. Should’ve figured if it’s on the American continent and features even a sliver of sustainability or hope for the future it’d be in Canada…",
">\n\nIt doesn’t really seem like anyone tried to stop her, so it doesn’t sound like much of an escape",
">\n\nWell Attorney thurrrst0n, you're wrong.",
">\n\nThe title says \"murderer\", but there are several levels of killing someone, highest being premeditated murder to manslaughter. \nWhat was she charged with, convicted of? Her history kind of makes me believe her conviction was on the lower end.",
">\n\nSentencing also takes into account the circumstances, so it's not just one blanket sentence for each specific charge. The woman suffered a lot of childhood trauma, was in a toxic and abusive relationship, and tried to kill herself before she killed her partner. Add to all that the lingering generational trauma of Native people. I don't think a second chance should be out of the question for her if she's able to be helped into a more stable frame of mind and lifestyle through rehabilitation. It's not like she's a serial killer"
] |
>
Going by all the other articles, she's not the only one to have escaped this place. They probably should increase security.
|
[
"Already back in custody. Turned herself in.",
">\n\nShe just needed to dip for a second. Grab some smokes and a coke. It's all good....right??",
">\n\nIt's Winnipeg! \nShe was grabbing a slurpee",
">\n\nSmokes are too expensive anyways",
">\n\nShe apparently just walked out the door. I guess minimum security is weirdly similar to zero security.",
">\n\nAnd she subsequently turned herself in. Seems like she was minimum security for a reason. This doesn't seem like the public is at serious risk.\nEdit:\nFor context, she's had substance abuse problems since she was 8, was sexually abused from the age of 11, and killed her partner (with whom she was in a toxic and abusive relationship - seems like the abuse went both ways) while seriously intoxicated, after having already made attempts to get help/support. Before killing him, she first tried to kill herself.\nIf you read her life history it's very sad. She is also currently eligible for parole (was given life but eligible after 10 years). \nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day. A lot of people want to see this as a failure because she managed to escape, but you can also see this as a success because afterwards she chose to do the responsible thing and quickly turned herself in.",
">\n\n\nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day.\n\nAh yes, personal responsibility doesn't exist, humans can't be held responsible for their own actions like dogs. \nIf a pet dog becomes obese, it's your fault.\nIf someone murders your loved ones, it's also your fault.",
">\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \nYou're basically just telling her to pull herself up by her bootstraps.",
">\n\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \n\nLots of people grow up disadvantaged and in desperate/dangerous environments and almost all of them aren't murderers.\nJust because you were delt a bad hand in life doesn't mean you get to murder people and get off with a slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nHow dumb are you? It's like you read one or two sentences and now you know everything you need to know to make a hard line assumption. Then you manage to go and do it again! The ignorance is palpable",
">\n\nThey aren't dumb they just refuse to recognize shades of grey because if personal responsibility doesn't matter as much as he thinks it is, what has personal his effort amount to?\nIt's an existential fear.",
">\n\nI think intelligence 100% plays a role in their world view.",
">\n\n“Healing lodge” sounds like it could either be a rehabilitation centre (aka the biggest investment and best opportunity an American will ever be given by their government) or a torture chamber, nothing in between.\nThis headline also kind of sounds like panic food clickbait. If the person is left free to roam a low security place like that i’d imagine they have either been proven trustworthy and this is a test on their path to rehab, or it’s their only chance at proving their past doesn’t define them.",
">\n\nThis is in Canada. \nLol the states wouldn’t invest in healing lodges.",
">\n\nAww, i had just regained a tiny bit of faith in the US. Should’ve figured if it’s on the American continent and features even a sliver of sustainability or hope for the future it’d be in Canada…",
">\n\nIt doesn’t really seem like anyone tried to stop her, so it doesn’t sound like much of an escape",
">\n\nWell Attorney thurrrst0n, you're wrong.",
">\n\nThe title says \"murderer\", but there are several levels of killing someone, highest being premeditated murder to manslaughter. \nWhat was she charged with, convicted of? Her history kind of makes me believe her conviction was on the lower end.",
">\n\nSentencing also takes into account the circumstances, so it's not just one blanket sentence for each specific charge. The woman suffered a lot of childhood trauma, was in a toxic and abusive relationship, and tried to kill herself before she killed her partner. Add to all that the lingering generational trauma of Native people. I don't think a second chance should be out of the question for her if she's able to be helped into a more stable frame of mind and lifestyle through rehabilitation. It's not like she's a serial killer",
">\n\nDamn. Usually when people murder someone cuz their life is fucked up I always say why didn't you just kill yourself if life sucked so much, why kill someone else.\nBut she actually did try to kill herself first, poor woman must have truly felt trapped"
] |
>
Healing lodge? Wtf.
|
[
"Already back in custody. Turned herself in.",
">\n\nShe just needed to dip for a second. Grab some smokes and a coke. It's all good....right??",
">\n\nIt's Winnipeg! \nShe was grabbing a slurpee",
">\n\nSmokes are too expensive anyways",
">\n\nShe apparently just walked out the door. I guess minimum security is weirdly similar to zero security.",
">\n\nAnd she subsequently turned herself in. Seems like she was minimum security for a reason. This doesn't seem like the public is at serious risk.\nEdit:\nFor context, she's had substance abuse problems since she was 8, was sexually abused from the age of 11, and killed her partner (with whom she was in a toxic and abusive relationship - seems like the abuse went both ways) while seriously intoxicated, after having already made attempts to get help/support. Before killing him, she first tried to kill herself.\nIf you read her life history it's very sad. She is also currently eligible for parole (was given life but eligible after 10 years). \nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day. A lot of people want to see this as a failure because she managed to escape, but you can also see this as a success because afterwards she chose to do the responsible thing and quickly turned herself in.",
">\n\n\nGiven how much society failed her, it seems like we should bare the responsibility to rehabilitate rather then just lock her up and hide her away. Seems like it's working seeing as she turned herself in the next day.\n\nAh yes, personal responsibility doesn't exist, humans can't be held responsible for their own actions like dogs. \nIf a pet dog becomes obese, it's your fault.\nIf someone murders your loved ones, it's also your fault.",
">\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \nYou're basically just telling her to pull herself up by her bootstraps.",
">\n\n\nTry reading her life story. Society failed her in her most formative years. The end result is someone who doesn't stand a chance of just turning their life around on their own. \n\nLots of people grow up disadvantaged and in desperate/dangerous environments and almost all of them aren't murderers.\nJust because you were delt a bad hand in life doesn't mean you get to murder people and get off with a slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nHow dumb are you? It's like you read one or two sentences and now you know everything you need to know to make a hard line assumption. Then you manage to go and do it again! The ignorance is palpable",
">\n\nThey aren't dumb they just refuse to recognize shades of grey because if personal responsibility doesn't matter as much as he thinks it is, what has personal his effort amount to?\nIt's an existential fear.",
">\n\nI think intelligence 100% plays a role in their world view.",
">\n\n“Healing lodge” sounds like it could either be a rehabilitation centre (aka the biggest investment and best opportunity an American will ever be given by their government) or a torture chamber, nothing in between.\nThis headline also kind of sounds like panic food clickbait. If the person is left free to roam a low security place like that i’d imagine they have either been proven trustworthy and this is a test on their path to rehab, or it’s their only chance at proving their past doesn’t define them.",
">\n\nThis is in Canada. \nLol the states wouldn’t invest in healing lodges.",
">\n\nAww, i had just regained a tiny bit of faith in the US. Should’ve figured if it’s on the American continent and features even a sliver of sustainability or hope for the future it’d be in Canada…",
">\n\nIt doesn’t really seem like anyone tried to stop her, so it doesn’t sound like much of an escape",
">\n\nWell Attorney thurrrst0n, you're wrong.",
">\n\nThe title says \"murderer\", but there are several levels of killing someone, highest being premeditated murder to manslaughter. \nWhat was she charged with, convicted of? Her history kind of makes me believe her conviction was on the lower end.",
">\n\nSentencing also takes into account the circumstances, so it's not just one blanket sentence for each specific charge. The woman suffered a lot of childhood trauma, was in a toxic and abusive relationship, and tried to kill herself before she killed her partner. Add to all that the lingering generational trauma of Native people. I don't think a second chance should be out of the question for her if she's able to be helped into a more stable frame of mind and lifestyle through rehabilitation. It's not like she's a serial killer",
">\n\nDamn. Usually when people murder someone cuz their life is fucked up I always say why didn't you just kill yourself if life sucked so much, why kill someone else.\nBut she actually did try to kill herself first, poor woman must have truly felt trapped",
">\n\nGoing by all the other articles, she's not the only one to have escaped this place. They probably should increase security."
] |
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