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I know that, barring new developments, the house will have to seat him. But if he can then be expelled or something afterwards, what happens? His opponent wins? They have a new election?
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"The man got $750,000 in campaign donations he passed off as his own money and reported it as his own money. That’s fraud no matter how you slice it. That it reportedly came from a Putin ally is the least surprising revelation.",
">\n\nAlso please correct me if I'm spreading Reddit rumors, but didn't he also not live at the address he put down for his paperwork? That has to be illegal in some way.",
">\n\nYou'd think so, wouldn't you? Turns out our democracy has been held together by rubber bands and gentleman's agreements this entire time.",
">\n\nThat works when politicians are, at their core, gentlemen (or gentlewomen). This batch of Red-Hatted Frauds is not.",
">\n\nand he's admittedly been to Moscow many times....wonder where that 700K came from?",
">\n\nSounds good to me",
">\n\nMe too, he makes shit up. Why not make shit up about him? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.But wouldn’t shock me if the Russians got to him.",
">\n\nI remember seeing something that said he's made several trips to Moscow so I wouldn't be surprised.",
">\n\nWait, so I can file the paperwork to run as a candidate for congress under the banner of one of two major national parties, win the primary, win the general and nobody will verify any of my personal bio that I've put forward until after I've won? \nCrazy that being submitted to a basic background check isn't part of the process for running and journalists aren't doing them independently trying to sniff out liars for stories and articles before elections. Why wait until now to look into these things?",
">\n\nA weekly newspaper reported on a lot of it in October, but no one else picked it up. (Including his opponent.)",
">\n\n100% he'll get busted for wire fraud. Slam dunk prosecution.",
">\n\nIt seems impossible to me that they won't find something criminal. He's reckless, deceitful, stupid and obviously highly immoral. Kind of a bad combination if you're looking to stay out of prison. If he were a billionaire maybe but he's not anywhere close to that.",
">\n\nOh lying is a crime now? After the last 6 years? Lord take me, I’m ready when you are.",
">\n\nr/noahgettheboat"
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Congress can expel its own members at any time. If the seat is vacant, a new special election would likely be held and governors can almost always fill these vacancies carte blanche on at least a temporary basis.
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[
"The man got $750,000 in campaign donations he passed off as his own money and reported it as his own money. That’s fraud no matter how you slice it. That it reportedly came from a Putin ally is the least surprising revelation.",
">\n\nAlso please correct me if I'm spreading Reddit rumors, but didn't he also not live at the address he put down for his paperwork? That has to be illegal in some way.",
">\n\nYou'd think so, wouldn't you? Turns out our democracy has been held together by rubber bands and gentleman's agreements this entire time.",
">\n\nThat works when politicians are, at their core, gentlemen (or gentlewomen). This batch of Red-Hatted Frauds is not.",
">\n\nand he's admittedly been to Moscow many times....wonder where that 700K came from?",
">\n\nSounds good to me",
">\n\nMe too, he makes shit up. Why not make shit up about him? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.But wouldn’t shock me if the Russians got to him.",
">\n\nI remember seeing something that said he's made several trips to Moscow so I wouldn't be surprised.",
">\n\nWait, so I can file the paperwork to run as a candidate for congress under the banner of one of two major national parties, win the primary, win the general and nobody will verify any of my personal bio that I've put forward until after I've won? \nCrazy that being submitted to a basic background check isn't part of the process for running and journalists aren't doing them independently trying to sniff out liars for stories and articles before elections. Why wait until now to look into these things?",
">\n\nA weekly newspaper reported on a lot of it in October, but no one else picked it up. (Including his opponent.)",
">\n\n100% he'll get busted for wire fraud. Slam dunk prosecution.",
">\n\nIt seems impossible to me that they won't find something criminal. He's reckless, deceitful, stupid and obviously highly immoral. Kind of a bad combination if you're looking to stay out of prison. If he were a billionaire maybe but he's not anywhere close to that.",
">\n\nOh lying is a crime now? After the last 6 years? Lord take me, I’m ready when you are.",
">\n\nr/noahgettheboat",
">\n\nI know that, barring new developments, the house will have to seat him. But if he can then be expelled or something afterwards, what happens? His opponent wins? They have a new election?"
] |
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Right, but there’s a Republican majority, so, they won’t.
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[
"The man got $750,000 in campaign donations he passed off as his own money and reported it as his own money. That’s fraud no matter how you slice it. That it reportedly came from a Putin ally is the least surprising revelation.",
">\n\nAlso please correct me if I'm spreading Reddit rumors, but didn't he also not live at the address he put down for his paperwork? That has to be illegal in some way.",
">\n\nYou'd think so, wouldn't you? Turns out our democracy has been held together by rubber bands and gentleman's agreements this entire time.",
">\n\nThat works when politicians are, at their core, gentlemen (or gentlewomen). This batch of Red-Hatted Frauds is not.",
">\n\nand he's admittedly been to Moscow many times....wonder where that 700K came from?",
">\n\nSounds good to me",
">\n\nMe too, he makes shit up. Why not make shit up about him? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.But wouldn’t shock me if the Russians got to him.",
">\n\nI remember seeing something that said he's made several trips to Moscow so I wouldn't be surprised.",
">\n\nWait, so I can file the paperwork to run as a candidate for congress under the banner of one of two major national parties, win the primary, win the general and nobody will verify any of my personal bio that I've put forward until after I've won? \nCrazy that being submitted to a basic background check isn't part of the process for running and journalists aren't doing them independently trying to sniff out liars for stories and articles before elections. Why wait until now to look into these things?",
">\n\nA weekly newspaper reported on a lot of it in October, but no one else picked it up. (Including his opponent.)",
">\n\n100% he'll get busted for wire fraud. Slam dunk prosecution.",
">\n\nIt seems impossible to me that they won't find something criminal. He's reckless, deceitful, stupid and obviously highly immoral. Kind of a bad combination if you're looking to stay out of prison. If he were a billionaire maybe but he's not anywhere close to that.",
">\n\nOh lying is a crime now? After the last 6 years? Lord take me, I’m ready when you are.",
">\n\nr/noahgettheboat",
">\n\nI know that, barring new developments, the house will have to seat him. But if he can then be expelled or something afterwards, what happens? His opponent wins? They have a new election?",
">\n\nCongress can expel its own members at any time. If the seat is vacant, a new special election would likely be held and governors can almost always fill these vacancies carte blanche on at least a temporary basis."
] |
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One might think it's this easy to become a congressional rep... except it isn't. A race costs 100k basement.
Who put him up to this?
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"The man got $750,000 in campaign donations he passed off as his own money and reported it as his own money. That’s fraud no matter how you slice it. That it reportedly came from a Putin ally is the least surprising revelation.",
">\n\nAlso please correct me if I'm spreading Reddit rumors, but didn't he also not live at the address he put down for his paperwork? That has to be illegal in some way.",
">\n\nYou'd think so, wouldn't you? Turns out our democracy has been held together by rubber bands and gentleman's agreements this entire time.",
">\n\nThat works when politicians are, at their core, gentlemen (or gentlewomen). This batch of Red-Hatted Frauds is not.",
">\n\nand he's admittedly been to Moscow many times....wonder where that 700K came from?",
">\n\nSounds good to me",
">\n\nMe too, he makes shit up. Why not make shit up about him? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.But wouldn’t shock me if the Russians got to him.",
">\n\nI remember seeing something that said he's made several trips to Moscow so I wouldn't be surprised.",
">\n\nWait, so I can file the paperwork to run as a candidate for congress under the banner of one of two major national parties, win the primary, win the general and nobody will verify any of my personal bio that I've put forward until after I've won? \nCrazy that being submitted to a basic background check isn't part of the process for running and journalists aren't doing them independently trying to sniff out liars for stories and articles before elections. Why wait until now to look into these things?",
">\n\nA weekly newspaper reported on a lot of it in October, but no one else picked it up. (Including his opponent.)",
">\n\n100% he'll get busted for wire fraud. Slam dunk prosecution.",
">\n\nIt seems impossible to me that they won't find something criminal. He's reckless, deceitful, stupid and obviously highly immoral. Kind of a bad combination if you're looking to stay out of prison. If he were a billionaire maybe but he's not anywhere close to that.",
">\n\nOh lying is a crime now? After the last 6 years? Lord take me, I’m ready when you are.",
">\n\nr/noahgettheboat",
">\n\nI know that, barring new developments, the house will have to seat him. But if he can then be expelled or something afterwards, what happens? His opponent wins? They have a new election?",
">\n\nCongress can expel its own members at any time. If the seat is vacant, a new special election would likely be held and governors can almost always fill these vacancies carte blanche on at least a temporary basis.",
">\n\nRight, but there’s a Republican majority, so, they won’t."
] |
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I know everyone here be like “RepUbLicAnS NeVeR pAy For tHEir cRimEs!1” but trust me, this tubby codpiece is done for.
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[
"The man got $750,000 in campaign donations he passed off as his own money and reported it as his own money. That’s fraud no matter how you slice it. That it reportedly came from a Putin ally is the least surprising revelation.",
">\n\nAlso please correct me if I'm spreading Reddit rumors, but didn't he also not live at the address he put down for his paperwork? That has to be illegal in some way.",
">\n\nYou'd think so, wouldn't you? Turns out our democracy has been held together by rubber bands and gentleman's agreements this entire time.",
">\n\nThat works when politicians are, at their core, gentlemen (or gentlewomen). This batch of Red-Hatted Frauds is not.",
">\n\nand he's admittedly been to Moscow many times....wonder where that 700K came from?",
">\n\nSounds good to me",
">\n\nMe too, he makes shit up. Why not make shit up about him? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.But wouldn’t shock me if the Russians got to him.",
">\n\nI remember seeing something that said he's made several trips to Moscow so I wouldn't be surprised.",
">\n\nWait, so I can file the paperwork to run as a candidate for congress under the banner of one of two major national parties, win the primary, win the general and nobody will verify any of my personal bio that I've put forward until after I've won? \nCrazy that being submitted to a basic background check isn't part of the process for running and journalists aren't doing them independently trying to sniff out liars for stories and articles before elections. Why wait until now to look into these things?",
">\n\nA weekly newspaper reported on a lot of it in October, but no one else picked it up. (Including his opponent.)",
">\n\n100% he'll get busted for wire fraud. Slam dunk prosecution.",
">\n\nIt seems impossible to me that they won't find something criminal. He's reckless, deceitful, stupid and obviously highly immoral. Kind of a bad combination if you're looking to stay out of prison. If he were a billionaire maybe but he's not anywhere close to that.",
">\n\nOh lying is a crime now? After the last 6 years? Lord take me, I’m ready when you are.",
">\n\nr/noahgettheboat",
">\n\nI know that, barring new developments, the house will have to seat him. But if he can then be expelled or something afterwards, what happens? His opponent wins? They have a new election?",
">\n\nCongress can expel its own members at any time. If the seat is vacant, a new special election would likely be held and governors can almost always fill these vacancies carte blanche on at least a temporary basis.",
">\n\nRight, but there’s a Republican majority, so, they won’t.",
">\n\nOne might think it's this easy to become a congressional rep... except it isn't. A race costs 100k basement. \nWho put him up to this?"
] |
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When's the last time a republican paid for his crime tho
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[
"The man got $750,000 in campaign donations he passed off as his own money and reported it as his own money. That’s fraud no matter how you slice it. That it reportedly came from a Putin ally is the least surprising revelation.",
">\n\nAlso please correct me if I'm spreading Reddit rumors, but didn't he also not live at the address he put down for his paperwork? That has to be illegal in some way.",
">\n\nYou'd think so, wouldn't you? Turns out our democracy has been held together by rubber bands and gentleman's agreements this entire time.",
">\n\nThat works when politicians are, at their core, gentlemen (or gentlewomen). This batch of Red-Hatted Frauds is not.",
">\n\nand he's admittedly been to Moscow many times....wonder where that 700K came from?",
">\n\nSounds good to me",
">\n\nMe too, he makes shit up. Why not make shit up about him? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.But wouldn’t shock me if the Russians got to him.",
">\n\nI remember seeing something that said he's made several trips to Moscow so I wouldn't be surprised.",
">\n\nWait, so I can file the paperwork to run as a candidate for congress under the banner of one of two major national parties, win the primary, win the general and nobody will verify any of my personal bio that I've put forward until after I've won? \nCrazy that being submitted to a basic background check isn't part of the process for running and journalists aren't doing them independently trying to sniff out liars for stories and articles before elections. Why wait until now to look into these things?",
">\n\nA weekly newspaper reported on a lot of it in October, but no one else picked it up. (Including his opponent.)",
">\n\n100% he'll get busted for wire fraud. Slam dunk prosecution.",
">\n\nIt seems impossible to me that they won't find something criminal. He's reckless, deceitful, stupid and obviously highly immoral. Kind of a bad combination if you're looking to stay out of prison. If he were a billionaire maybe but he's not anywhere close to that.",
">\n\nOh lying is a crime now? After the last 6 years? Lord take me, I’m ready when you are.",
">\n\nr/noahgettheboat",
">\n\nI know that, barring new developments, the house will have to seat him. But if he can then be expelled or something afterwards, what happens? His opponent wins? They have a new election?",
">\n\nCongress can expel its own members at any time. If the seat is vacant, a new special election would likely be held and governors can almost always fill these vacancies carte blanche on at least a temporary basis.",
">\n\nRight, but there’s a Republican majority, so, they won’t.",
">\n\nOne might think it's this easy to become a congressional rep... except it isn't. A race costs 100k basement. \nWho put him up to this?",
">\n\nI know everyone here be like “RepUbLicAnS NeVeR pAy For tHEir cRimEs!1” but trust me, this tubby codpiece is done for."
] |
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hastert?
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[
"The man got $750,000 in campaign donations he passed off as his own money and reported it as his own money. That’s fraud no matter how you slice it. That it reportedly came from a Putin ally is the least surprising revelation.",
">\n\nAlso please correct me if I'm spreading Reddit rumors, but didn't he also not live at the address he put down for his paperwork? That has to be illegal in some way.",
">\n\nYou'd think so, wouldn't you? Turns out our democracy has been held together by rubber bands and gentleman's agreements this entire time.",
">\n\nThat works when politicians are, at their core, gentlemen (or gentlewomen). This batch of Red-Hatted Frauds is not.",
">\n\nand he's admittedly been to Moscow many times....wonder where that 700K came from?",
">\n\nSounds good to me",
">\n\nMe too, he makes shit up. Why not make shit up about him? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.But wouldn’t shock me if the Russians got to him.",
">\n\nI remember seeing something that said he's made several trips to Moscow so I wouldn't be surprised.",
">\n\nWait, so I can file the paperwork to run as a candidate for congress under the banner of one of two major national parties, win the primary, win the general and nobody will verify any of my personal bio that I've put forward until after I've won? \nCrazy that being submitted to a basic background check isn't part of the process for running and journalists aren't doing them independently trying to sniff out liars for stories and articles before elections. Why wait until now to look into these things?",
">\n\nA weekly newspaper reported on a lot of it in October, but no one else picked it up. (Including his opponent.)",
">\n\n100% he'll get busted for wire fraud. Slam dunk prosecution.",
">\n\nIt seems impossible to me that they won't find something criminal. He's reckless, deceitful, stupid and obviously highly immoral. Kind of a bad combination if you're looking to stay out of prison. If he were a billionaire maybe but he's not anywhere close to that.",
">\n\nOh lying is a crime now? After the last 6 years? Lord take me, I’m ready when you are.",
">\n\nr/noahgettheboat",
">\n\nI know that, barring new developments, the house will have to seat him. But if he can then be expelled or something afterwards, what happens? His opponent wins? They have a new election?",
">\n\nCongress can expel its own members at any time. If the seat is vacant, a new special election would likely be held and governors can almost always fill these vacancies carte blanche on at least a temporary basis.",
">\n\nRight, but there’s a Republican majority, so, they won’t.",
">\n\nOne might think it's this easy to become a congressional rep... except it isn't. A race costs 100k basement. \nWho put him up to this?",
">\n\nI know everyone here be like “RepUbLicAnS NeVeR pAy For tHEir cRimEs!1” but trust me, this tubby codpiece is done for.",
">\n\nWhen's the last time a republican paid for his crime tho"
] |
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[
"The man got $750,000 in campaign donations he passed off as his own money and reported it as his own money. That’s fraud no matter how you slice it. That it reportedly came from a Putin ally is the least surprising revelation.",
">\n\nAlso please correct me if I'm spreading Reddit rumors, but didn't he also not live at the address he put down for his paperwork? That has to be illegal in some way.",
">\n\nYou'd think so, wouldn't you? Turns out our democracy has been held together by rubber bands and gentleman's agreements this entire time.",
">\n\nThat works when politicians are, at their core, gentlemen (or gentlewomen). This batch of Red-Hatted Frauds is not.",
">\n\nand he's admittedly been to Moscow many times....wonder where that 700K came from?",
">\n\nSounds good to me",
">\n\nMe too, he makes shit up. Why not make shit up about him? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.But wouldn’t shock me if the Russians got to him.",
">\n\nI remember seeing something that said he's made several trips to Moscow so I wouldn't be surprised.",
">\n\nWait, so I can file the paperwork to run as a candidate for congress under the banner of one of two major national parties, win the primary, win the general and nobody will verify any of my personal bio that I've put forward until after I've won? \nCrazy that being submitted to a basic background check isn't part of the process for running and journalists aren't doing them independently trying to sniff out liars for stories and articles before elections. Why wait until now to look into these things?",
">\n\nA weekly newspaper reported on a lot of it in October, but no one else picked it up. (Including his opponent.)",
">\n\n100% he'll get busted for wire fraud. Slam dunk prosecution.",
">\n\nIt seems impossible to me that they won't find something criminal. He's reckless, deceitful, stupid and obviously highly immoral. Kind of a bad combination if you're looking to stay out of prison. If he were a billionaire maybe but he's not anywhere close to that.",
">\n\nOh lying is a crime now? After the last 6 years? Lord take me, I’m ready when you are.",
">\n\nr/noahgettheboat",
">\n\nI know that, barring new developments, the house will have to seat him. But if he can then be expelled or something afterwards, what happens? His opponent wins? They have a new election?",
">\n\nCongress can expel its own members at any time. If the seat is vacant, a new special election would likely be held and governors can almost always fill these vacancies carte blanche on at least a temporary basis.",
">\n\nRight, but there’s a Republican majority, so, they won’t.",
">\n\nOne might think it's this easy to become a congressional rep... except it isn't. A race costs 100k basement. \nWho put him up to this?",
">\n\nI know everyone here be like “RepUbLicAnS NeVeR pAy For tHEir cRimEs!1” but trust me, this tubby codpiece is done for.",
">\n\nWhen's the last time a republican paid for his crime tho",
">\n\nhastert?"
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Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.
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🥺
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you."
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Looks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺"
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I feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.
If its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period."
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I've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup.
"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?"
I thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness."
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People (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase "post nut clarity" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄
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[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay."
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I don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc.
So it’s already strongly confirmed by data.
That being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps.
The same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.
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[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄"
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It might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.
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[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children."
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How are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date
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[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second."
] |
>
As a "mid" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date"
] |
>
I'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you."
] |
>
I'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.
It sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time."
] |
>
Translation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after."
] |
>
In dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality"
] |
>
Are you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣"
] |
>
Of course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?"
] |
>
But you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.
See my point?
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long."
] |
>
That isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?"
] |
>
Op, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty."
] |
>
My standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol"
] |
>
This was written by a person who has never once been on a date
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me"
] |
>
I mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date"
] |
>
I am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though."
] |
>
Why do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless."
] |
>
Just because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time."
] |
>
It’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…
You do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play.
The personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together."
] |
>
I’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people."
] |
>
This is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.
When you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other.
Damn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating."
] |
>
You’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck."
] |
>
The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime
That's not remotely true.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important."
] |
>
That’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true."
] |
>
If you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?"
] |
>
That’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots."
] |
>
I am married kiddo 👌🏻
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase."
] |
>
That rebuts my argument 👌🏻
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻"
] |
>
How long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻"
] |
>
Looks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem."
] |
>
But they’re a huge part of it
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better"
] |
>
They're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it"
] |
>
Not true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else."
] |
>
That’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them."
] |
>
Looks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch.
You want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me."
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>
Yes, but be careful about generalizing "physically attractive". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self."
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To be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.
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[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots."
] |
>
I'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus."
] |
>
I think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities.
But you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot.
You won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice."
] |
>
I think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle."
] |
>
I'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.
Seriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.
I even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.
Attraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance
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[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try."
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>
Honestly it sounds like you might be demisexual
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance"
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Eh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered "unattractive" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual"
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Well you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..
|
[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive"
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I wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.
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[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience.."
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Looks do make it easier to get a first date.
I know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up.
If you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women.
Think of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like.
If you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.
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[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for."
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This is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.
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[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older."
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r/niceguys
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[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao."
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Come on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.
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[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys"
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I think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.
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[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh."
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This is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.
The most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.
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[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't."
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It gets you far in dating but not relationships
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[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it."
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So based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships"
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Dude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on."
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He's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)"
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic."
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Why do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?
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[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears"
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I am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.
I’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.
My friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.
What would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?"
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>
Well there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them
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[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?"
] |
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I’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.
It’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.
I’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.
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[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them"
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I’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one."
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I’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying"
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They’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly."
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Nah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person."
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Sure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice.
You sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.
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[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough"
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Less picky about looks too lol
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[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason."
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Yup. It’s the hornies.
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[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol"
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At least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies."
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It’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.
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[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware."
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Also, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha.
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[
"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though."
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I knew it! I tell people, because I’m not that attractive, I can’t get any dates. But they try to tell me that looks don’t matter. Oh shit, looks don’t matter. I mean, I know I know Channing Tatum, but apparently I’m not even average. Because even the average people get dates. Not me.
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.",
">\n\nAlso, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha."
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Gotta get the foot in the door before you can make your sales pitch. I agree with OP, being physically attractive to a potential date is the most important thing. You can be a lovely person but if you don’t get a first date than nobody will ever know.
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.",
">\n\nAlso, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha.",
">\n\nI knew it! I tell people, because I’m not that attractive, I can’t get any dates. But they try to tell me that looks don’t matter. Oh shit, looks don’t matter. I mean, I know I know Channing Tatum, but apparently I’m not even average. Because even the average people get dates. Not me."
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.",
">\n\nAlso, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha.",
">\n\nI knew it! I tell people, because I’m not that attractive, I can’t get any dates. But they try to tell me that looks don’t matter. Oh shit, looks don’t matter. I mean, I know I know Channing Tatum, but apparently I’m not even average. Because even the average people get dates. Not me.",
">\n\nGotta get the foot in the door before you can make your sales pitch. I agree with OP, being physically attractive to a potential date is the most important thing. You can be a lovely person but if you don’t get a first date than nobody will ever know."
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How will that make girls stop calling me ugly?
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.",
">\n\nAlso, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha.",
">\n\nI knew it! I tell people, because I’m not that attractive, I can’t get any dates. But they try to tell me that looks don’t matter. Oh shit, looks don’t matter. I mean, I know I know Channing Tatum, but apparently I’m not even average. Because even the average people get dates. Not me.",
">\n\nGotta get the foot in the door before you can make your sales pitch. I agree with OP, being physically attractive to a potential date is the most important thing. You can be a lovely person but if you don’t get a first date than nobody will ever know.",
">\n\nAre you insecure about your looks? Practice loving yourself!"
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.",
">\n\nAlso, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha.",
">\n\nI knew it! I tell people, because I’m not that attractive, I can’t get any dates. But they try to tell me that looks don’t matter. Oh shit, looks don’t matter. I mean, I know I know Channing Tatum, but apparently I’m not even average. Because even the average people get dates. Not me.",
">\n\nGotta get the foot in the door before you can make your sales pitch. I agree with OP, being physically attractive to a potential date is the most important thing. You can be a lovely person but if you don’t get a first date than nobody will ever know.",
">\n\nAre you insecure about your looks? Practice loving yourself!",
">\n\nHow will that make girls stop calling me ugly?"
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“Unpopular Opinion “ is full of this dumb, trite moaning.
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.",
">\n\nAlso, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha.",
">\n\nI knew it! I tell people, because I’m not that attractive, I can’t get any dates. But they try to tell me that looks don’t matter. Oh shit, looks don’t matter. I mean, I know I know Channing Tatum, but apparently I’m not even average. Because even the average people get dates. Not me.",
">\n\nGotta get the foot in the door before you can make your sales pitch. I agree with OP, being physically attractive to a potential date is the most important thing. You can be a lovely person but if you don’t get a first date than nobody will ever know.",
">\n\nAre you insecure about your looks? Practice loving yourself!",
">\n\nHow will that make girls stop calling me ugly?",
">\n\nWomen are attracted to more than just looks. If you’re ugly then learn how to be funny"
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Absolutely, some people may say personality is more important to have a long term relationship, however in order to have one you need to attract the person first.
It doesn't matter how attractive is your personality, if you don't attract someone at first place you won't have a relationship.
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.",
">\n\nAlso, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha.",
">\n\nI knew it! I tell people, because I’m not that attractive, I can’t get any dates. But they try to tell me that looks don’t matter. Oh shit, looks don’t matter. I mean, I know I know Channing Tatum, but apparently I’m not even average. Because even the average people get dates. Not me.",
">\n\nGotta get the foot in the door before you can make your sales pitch. I agree with OP, being physically attractive to a potential date is the most important thing. You can be a lovely person but if you don’t get a first date than nobody will ever know.",
">\n\nAre you insecure about your looks? Practice loving yourself!",
">\n\nHow will that make girls stop calling me ugly?",
">\n\nWomen are attracted to more than just looks. If you’re ugly then learn how to be funny",
">\n\n“Unpopular Opinion “ is full of this dumb, trite moaning."
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I agree. I’m perpetually single because I’m not attractive to girls the same way I’ve too rejected some girls because I wasn’t physically attracted to them. Whoever says this is shallow behavior is just an elitist prick that is too immersed in their hypocrisy to realize they’d do the same exact thing. Humans like what they like. I’m not gonna feel bad about desiring an attractive girl the same way a girl shouldn’t feel bad about desiring an attractive male.
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.",
">\n\nAlso, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha.",
">\n\nI knew it! I tell people, because I’m not that attractive, I can’t get any dates. But they try to tell me that looks don’t matter. Oh shit, looks don’t matter. I mean, I know I know Channing Tatum, but apparently I’m not even average. Because even the average people get dates. Not me.",
">\n\nGotta get the foot in the door before you can make your sales pitch. I agree with OP, being physically attractive to a potential date is the most important thing. You can be a lovely person but if you don’t get a first date than nobody will ever know.",
">\n\nAre you insecure about your looks? Practice loving yourself!",
">\n\nHow will that make girls stop calling me ugly?",
">\n\nWomen are attracted to more than just looks. If you’re ugly then learn how to be funny",
">\n\n“Unpopular Opinion “ is full of this dumb, trite moaning.",
">\n\nAbsolutely, some people may say personality is more important to have a long term relationship, however in order to have one you need to attract the person first.\nIt doesn't matter how attractive is your personality, if you don't attract someone at first place you won't have a relationship."
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Most correct answer yet you’re at the bottom
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.",
">\n\nAlso, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha.",
">\n\nI knew it! I tell people, because I’m not that attractive, I can’t get any dates. But they try to tell me that looks don’t matter. Oh shit, looks don’t matter. I mean, I know I know Channing Tatum, but apparently I’m not even average. Because even the average people get dates. Not me.",
">\n\nGotta get the foot in the door before you can make your sales pitch. I agree with OP, being physically attractive to a potential date is the most important thing. You can be a lovely person but if you don’t get a first date than nobody will ever know.",
">\n\nAre you insecure about your looks? Practice loving yourself!",
">\n\nHow will that make girls stop calling me ugly?",
">\n\nWomen are attracted to more than just looks. If you’re ugly then learn how to be funny",
">\n\n“Unpopular Opinion “ is full of this dumb, trite moaning.",
">\n\nAbsolutely, some people may say personality is more important to have a long term relationship, however in order to have one you need to attract the person first.\nIt doesn't matter how attractive is your personality, if you don't attract someone at first place you won't have a relationship.",
">\n\nI agree. I’m perpetually single because I’m not attractive to girls the same way I’ve too rejected some girls because I wasn’t physically attracted to them. Whoever says this is shallow behavior is just an elitist prick that is too immersed in their hypocrisy to realize they’d do the same exact thing. Humans like what they like. I’m not gonna feel bad about desiring an attractive girl the same way a girl shouldn’t feel bad about desiring an attractive male."
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Clarification
If you are a woman that is what is valued other traits are valued higher than that in men
Money intelligence and humor all completely outclass physical attractiveness for men when it comes to dating
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.",
">\n\nAlso, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha.",
">\n\nI knew it! I tell people, because I’m not that attractive, I can’t get any dates. But they try to tell me that looks don’t matter. Oh shit, looks don’t matter. I mean, I know I know Channing Tatum, but apparently I’m not even average. Because even the average people get dates. Not me.",
">\n\nGotta get the foot in the door before you can make your sales pitch. I agree with OP, being physically attractive to a potential date is the most important thing. You can be a lovely person but if you don’t get a first date than nobody will ever know.",
">\n\nAre you insecure about your looks? Practice loving yourself!",
">\n\nHow will that make girls stop calling me ugly?",
">\n\nWomen are attracted to more than just looks. If you’re ugly then learn how to be funny",
">\n\n“Unpopular Opinion “ is full of this dumb, trite moaning.",
">\n\nAbsolutely, some people may say personality is more important to have a long term relationship, however in order to have one you need to attract the person first.\nIt doesn't matter how attractive is your personality, if you don't attract someone at first place you won't have a relationship.",
">\n\nI agree. I’m perpetually single because I’m not attractive to girls the same way I’ve too rejected some girls because I wasn’t physically attracted to them. Whoever says this is shallow behavior is just an elitist prick that is too immersed in their hypocrisy to realize they’d do the same exact thing. Humans like what they like. I’m not gonna feel bad about desiring an attractive girl the same way a girl shouldn’t feel bad about desiring an attractive male.",
">\n\nMost correct answer yet you’re at the bottom"
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For me even if I’m not initially attracted to a woman physically, if I fall in love with her personality, that could change and she’ll become the most beautiful woman in the world to me. That’s happened before.
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.",
">\n\nAlso, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha.",
">\n\nI knew it! I tell people, because I’m not that attractive, I can’t get any dates. But they try to tell me that looks don’t matter. Oh shit, looks don’t matter. I mean, I know I know Channing Tatum, but apparently I’m not even average. Because even the average people get dates. Not me.",
">\n\nGotta get the foot in the door before you can make your sales pitch. I agree with OP, being physically attractive to a potential date is the most important thing. You can be a lovely person but if you don’t get a first date than nobody will ever know.",
">\n\nAre you insecure about your looks? Practice loving yourself!",
">\n\nHow will that make girls stop calling me ugly?",
">\n\nWomen are attracted to more than just looks. If you’re ugly then learn how to be funny",
">\n\n“Unpopular Opinion “ is full of this dumb, trite moaning.",
">\n\nAbsolutely, some people may say personality is more important to have a long term relationship, however in order to have one you need to attract the person first.\nIt doesn't matter how attractive is your personality, if you don't attract someone at first place you won't have a relationship.",
">\n\nI agree. I’m perpetually single because I’m not attractive to girls the same way I’ve too rejected some girls because I wasn’t physically attracted to them. Whoever says this is shallow behavior is just an elitist prick that is too immersed in their hypocrisy to realize they’d do the same exact thing. Humans like what they like. I’m not gonna feel bad about desiring an attractive girl the same way a girl shouldn’t feel bad about desiring an attractive male.",
">\n\nMost correct answer yet you’re at the bottom",
">\n\nClarification\nIf you are a woman that is what is valued other traits are valued higher than that in men\nMoney intelligence and humor all completely outclass physical attractiveness for men when it comes to dating"
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if you dont look good just wear a fedora und greet her always with ma lady
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.",
">\n\nAlso, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha.",
">\n\nI knew it! I tell people, because I’m not that attractive, I can’t get any dates. But they try to tell me that looks don’t matter. Oh shit, looks don’t matter. I mean, I know I know Channing Tatum, but apparently I’m not even average. Because even the average people get dates. Not me.",
">\n\nGotta get the foot in the door before you can make your sales pitch. I agree with OP, being physically attractive to a potential date is the most important thing. You can be a lovely person but if you don’t get a first date than nobody will ever know.",
">\n\nAre you insecure about your looks? Practice loving yourself!",
">\n\nHow will that make girls stop calling me ugly?",
">\n\nWomen are attracted to more than just looks. If you’re ugly then learn how to be funny",
">\n\n“Unpopular Opinion “ is full of this dumb, trite moaning.",
">\n\nAbsolutely, some people may say personality is more important to have a long term relationship, however in order to have one you need to attract the person first.\nIt doesn't matter how attractive is your personality, if you don't attract someone at first place you won't have a relationship.",
">\n\nI agree. I’m perpetually single because I’m not attractive to girls the same way I’ve too rejected some girls because I wasn’t physically attracted to them. Whoever says this is shallow behavior is just an elitist prick that is too immersed in their hypocrisy to realize they’d do the same exact thing. Humans like what they like. I’m not gonna feel bad about desiring an attractive girl the same way a girl shouldn’t feel bad about desiring an attractive male.",
">\n\nMost correct answer yet you’re at the bottom",
">\n\nClarification\nIf you are a woman that is what is valued other traits are valued higher than that in men\nMoney intelligence and humor all completely outclass physical attractiveness for men when it comes to dating",
">\n\nFor me even if I’m not initially attracted to a woman physically, if I fall in love with her personality, that could change and she’ll become the most beautiful woman in the world to me. That’s happened before."
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Mostly unattractive person here: if I can get a date and through the first date I win based on personality. The tough part is dating when you’re younger is based almost entirely on looks on the front end.
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.",
">\n\nAlso, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha.",
">\n\nI knew it! I tell people, because I’m not that attractive, I can’t get any dates. But they try to tell me that looks don’t matter. Oh shit, looks don’t matter. I mean, I know I know Channing Tatum, but apparently I’m not even average. Because even the average people get dates. Not me.",
">\n\nGotta get the foot in the door before you can make your sales pitch. I agree with OP, being physically attractive to a potential date is the most important thing. You can be a lovely person but if you don’t get a first date than nobody will ever know.",
">\n\nAre you insecure about your looks? Practice loving yourself!",
">\n\nHow will that make girls stop calling me ugly?",
">\n\nWomen are attracted to more than just looks. If you’re ugly then learn how to be funny",
">\n\n“Unpopular Opinion “ is full of this dumb, trite moaning.",
">\n\nAbsolutely, some people may say personality is more important to have a long term relationship, however in order to have one you need to attract the person first.\nIt doesn't matter how attractive is your personality, if you don't attract someone at first place you won't have a relationship.",
">\n\nI agree. I’m perpetually single because I’m not attractive to girls the same way I’ve too rejected some girls because I wasn’t physically attracted to them. Whoever says this is shallow behavior is just an elitist prick that is too immersed in their hypocrisy to realize they’d do the same exact thing. Humans like what they like. I’m not gonna feel bad about desiring an attractive girl the same way a girl shouldn’t feel bad about desiring an attractive male.",
">\n\nMost correct answer yet you’re at the bottom",
">\n\nClarification\nIf you are a woman that is what is valued other traits are valued higher than that in men\nMoney intelligence and humor all completely outclass physical attractiveness for men when it comes to dating",
">\n\nFor me even if I’m not initially attracted to a woman physically, if I fall in love with her personality, that could change and she’ll become the most beautiful woman in the world to me. That’s happened before.",
">\n\nif you dont look good just wear a fedora und greet her always with ma lady"
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It’s very important in dating in the sense that it gets your foot in the door a lot easier. It doesn’t do as much for the longevity of a relationship though. You can look like a Greek god and still have no luck finding a long term relationship due to a plethora of personality issues. Hell, some attractive people are terrible conversationalists and that sort of thing hurts their dating prospects greatly in any place that’s not a bar full of drunks.
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.",
">\n\nAlso, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha.",
">\n\nI knew it! I tell people, because I’m not that attractive, I can’t get any dates. But they try to tell me that looks don’t matter. Oh shit, looks don’t matter. I mean, I know I know Channing Tatum, but apparently I’m not even average. Because even the average people get dates. Not me.",
">\n\nGotta get the foot in the door before you can make your sales pitch. I agree with OP, being physically attractive to a potential date is the most important thing. You can be a lovely person but if you don’t get a first date than nobody will ever know.",
">\n\nAre you insecure about your looks? Practice loving yourself!",
">\n\nHow will that make girls stop calling me ugly?",
">\n\nWomen are attracted to more than just looks. If you’re ugly then learn how to be funny",
">\n\n“Unpopular Opinion “ is full of this dumb, trite moaning.",
">\n\nAbsolutely, some people may say personality is more important to have a long term relationship, however in order to have one you need to attract the person first.\nIt doesn't matter how attractive is your personality, if you don't attract someone at first place you won't have a relationship.",
">\n\nI agree. I’m perpetually single because I’m not attractive to girls the same way I’ve too rejected some girls because I wasn’t physically attracted to them. Whoever says this is shallow behavior is just an elitist prick that is too immersed in their hypocrisy to realize they’d do the same exact thing. Humans like what they like. I’m not gonna feel bad about desiring an attractive girl the same way a girl shouldn’t feel bad about desiring an attractive male.",
">\n\nMost correct answer yet you’re at the bottom",
">\n\nClarification\nIf you are a woman that is what is valued other traits are valued higher than that in men\nMoney intelligence and humor all completely outclass physical attractiveness for men when it comes to dating",
">\n\nFor me even if I’m not initially attracted to a woman physically, if I fall in love with her personality, that could change and she’ll become the most beautiful woman in the world to me. That’s happened before.",
">\n\nif you dont look good just wear a fedora und greet her always with ma lady",
">\n\nMostly unattractive person here: if I can get a date and through the first date I win based on personality. The tough part is dating when you’re younger is based almost entirely on looks on the front end."
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isnt this like the most popular opinion ever?
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"Being very unattractive & fat, I 100% agree with you.",
">\n\n🥺",
">\n\nLooks might be the most important part of getting a date in the first place, but definitely not in dating someone over an extended period.",
">\n\nI feel like it only makes sense if you just wanna fling with sex.\nIf its anything long term, its kind of important you actually like the person because looks do eventually fade away with time. Or something horrible happens to the person and they can no longer upkeep the look/fitness.",
">\n\nI've been told I'm an attractive guy, and it's frustrating to have feelings for someone only to realize they were only flirting with you to hookup. \n\"Isn't it obvious I wanted to hookup for your looks?\"\nI thought it was because you liked me as a person, but okay.",
">\n\nPeople (both men and women) just casually throwing the phrase \"post nut clarity\" around as if it's supposed to be socially acceptable. 🙄",
">\n\nI don’t think anyone denies the importance of attraction. Hell, there’s been studies showing there’s a correlation for attraction and opportunities in life such as jobs, promotions, raises, friends, relationship quality, etc etc etc. \nSo it’s already strongly confirmed by data. \nThat being said it’s also shown that, although attraction may open more doors for you on average, it will typically only you take you as far as through the door. From there, you and your merits are what gets you to the next steps. \nThe same mentality goes towards dating. All of us, if given the chance, would get with someone who’s 10/10 attractive BUT our tolerance for personality will kick in. This is also shown to matter more with age; on average, younger folk are more likely to tolerate no/shitty personalities than older/more experienced folks. This is especially true when people who have responsibilities such as children.",
">\n\nIt might help you get a first date, bu your gonna need a good personality on that date or you won’t get a second.",
">\n\nHow are you to get a second date if you can’t get a first date",
">\n\nAs a \"mid\" overweight dude. I got lots of first dates and second dates. Looks help get your foot in the door sure, but it's not the only way to attract someone. You'd be suprised how far being funny and kind will get you.",
">\n\nI'm making the assumption here that you're straight (correct me if I'm wrong) and really this lines up with my experience as a woman. I'm definitely open to seeing if something develops with someone I'm not extremely physically attracted to, so long as the conversation is good. Same goes for most of my friends. Obviously hygiene is non-negotiable and an overall put together look matters, but we're not out here turning up our noses at men because they don't look like they were carved out of marble by Michelangelo himself. And frankly, I think there's something to be said for attraction and admiration that builds over time.",
">\n\nI'm bi, but did mostly date women and married a woman so your assumption wasn't far off. Honestly I found most women wanted to go out and have a good time, and I had a pretty strict rule for myself that I didn't ever entertain the idea of sex on a first date, which I think alleviated a lot of pressure that's put on those first encounters.\nIt sounds so simple but in my experience most women were more than happy to say yes to a first date as long as it was pretty clear that it would be somewhere safe and public, doing something fun, and that they wouldn't be pressured for anything after.",
">\n\nTranslation: a lot of people make the mistake of picking a physically hot person with a defective personality",
">\n\nIn dating only, relationships tend to require some actual depth. 🤣",
">\n\nAre you going to go on a date with the ugliest person youve ever met?",
">\n\nOf course not, but if the hottest one’s got a shit personality or a room temperature IQ, fucking is only going to carry the “relationship” so long.",
">\n\nBut you don’t know that until the date. You don’t know if the ugly person has a shining personality at all because you wouldn’t go on a date with them.\nSee my point?",
">\n\nThat isn’t the only way people end up in relationships and the ugliest person to me could be a goddess to you. It’s all subjective nonsense and studies show super attractive people tend to suffer in the dating scene more anyway. Even ugly assholes get laid a plenty.",
">\n\nOp, if you are reading this, i am being deadass, maybe you need to lower your standards lol",
">\n\nMy standards are incredibly low. I’d be willing to date literally any woman who wanted to date me. I do not care what she looks or acts like as long as she likes me",
">\n\nThis was written by a person who has never once been on a date",
">\n\nI mean it’s more of a limiting factor. There’s a base level of attraction required for me to be interested. If you are the ugliest person I’ve ever seen but have a great personality I’m still not interested. Being a Victoria’s Secret model isn’t really much better than just being pretty to me though.",
">\n\nI am 40 and never been on a date due to my ugliness so I suppose this is true. I am ugly and don’t deserve love. Thanks for twisting the knife and making life more hopeless.",
">\n\nWhy do you think it’s your ugliness? I work customer service and see a lot of unattractive men and women with happy families all the time.",
">\n\nJust because you see it in a job that requires you to see a ton of people every day doesn’t mean it’s common. I’ve also worked in customer service and the ugly couples we’re usually past middle aged, so you have no idea what they looked like in their prime when they got together.",
">\n\nIt’s pretty common, as most people can be categorized as average and unattractive. Plenty of young couples too! And sometimes one person in the couple is attractive and the other one isn’t. It’s amazing the couples I’ve seen…\nYou do bring up a good point though about us not knowing what they looked like when they were younger, but still, I had plenty of crushes on people who weren’t conventionally attractive or could even be described as unattractive entirely because of other factors at play. \nThe personality and confidence factor plays a HUGE role, especially for people who don’t catch your eye at first. Attraction is very fluid and can come and go and love at first sight just isn’t the reality for most people.",
">\n\nI’ve actually went out on dates with men whose profile photos were blurry, or had only photos taken from a profile, or from a distance, but I liked they made an effort to write a good profile and I gave all of them a chance. I also actively ignored the men who only had photos of their sculpted bodies and nothing else. So, no, looks alone don’t get you very far and there are people who take that into account when dating.",
">\n\nThis is coming from someone who obviously hasn't been with the same person for 10 years.\nWhen you finally get bored of fucking each other you still have to talk to each other. \nDamn I can't wait for these kids to get back in school fuck.",
">\n\nYou’ve never dated anyone have you? The longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime, If there is no chemistry and if your personalities don’t match, the relationship isn’t going to workout, thus making personality pretty important.",
">\n\n\nThe longer you date someone, the less attracted you become to them overtime\n\nThat's not remotely true.",
">\n\nThat’s not true? So you’re telling me that most couples sex lives get better the longer the relationship goes?",
">\n\nIf you're doing it right it does. I'd rather make love to the same woman 1000 times than sleep with 1000 different thots.",
">\n\nThat’s wishful thinking, but it’s a platitude, your intimate life won’t be the same when you’re married like it was in the honeymoon phase.",
">\n\nI am married kiddo 👌🏻",
">\n\nThat rebuts my argument 👌🏻",
">\n\nHow long have you been married for exactly? I'm sorry your wife no longer satisfies you sexually but please understand that's a you problem and not an everyone problem.",
">\n\nLooks are not the only thing that make you attractive. The sooner you learn this the better",
">\n\nBut they’re a huge part of it",
">\n\nThey're such a minor part. Like they're great for getting your foot in the door, but that still leaves like 90% of the work to everything else.",
">\n\nNot true at all, if I’m not attracted to a person who has an amazing personality then I will never be attracted no matter how long I know them.",
">\n\nThat’s you. People are all different concerning this. I personally have never been drawn to someone for their looks (despite the fact that I care about my own) but I have been deeply attracted to a persona and the way they meld minds with me. Charisma, interaction, how they navigate life, etc draws me in so much that a conventionally ugly person will suddenly look hot to me.",
">\n\nLooks are a trap. You'll end up with the partner longer because they are a good catch. \nYou want people to be interested in yourself more than your self.",
">\n\nYes, but be careful about generalizing \"physically attractive\". People have different types. Being voted more attractive by a group of people does not necessarily make you more attractive to one person. I get so sick of hearing either women's or men's tastes generalized to be a single, monolithic preference from which there is no dissent. A relationship is with a single individual; it's not awarded through more updoots.",
">\n\nTo be fair, the type of partners who'd care about that over personality wouldn't really be a lot of people's type. For sex/flings, I can see that. But if i'm actually gonna settle down and live everyday with someone, I don't wanna be stuck with a circus.",
">\n\nI'm not sure looks are the most important part of dating, when I was dating I rejected several attractive yet intolerable women. Looks aren't the most important thing, they're just the first thing you notice.",
">\n\nI think people are disagreeing with you because they can’t admit you’re right. I’ve seen plenty of people put up with way too much shit when dating because the other person is attractive. Being attractive 100% gets your foot in the door and it 100% hands you more opportunities. \nBut you won’t last in a relationship if you have a bad personality and you’re more likely to get used if you’re hot. \nYou won’t get dates without confidence. Also confidence and social aptitude heavily leans somebody toward being attractive. Work on those things and that’s half the battle.",
">\n\nI think actually trying is the real key. Lots of people attractive or not complain about their lack of dating but they dont actually try.",
">\n\nI'm so tired of this idea. It's only gotten worse over time as apps have become the standard.\nSeriously, looks are the LEAST important part of who I choose to date. My only requirement for looks is that I'm not utterly repulsed by someone, that leaves 99.5% of the population attractive enough, physically.\nI even rule out some people who are super attractive, based on what I can infer about them personally. Ultra buff hot bod? No thanks, too much time at the gym. Perfect super slim figure? Nah, I want to be able to eat pizza with my partner regularly. Lots of makeup and always carefully styled hair? I'd rather be with someone who can leave the house in under ten minutes.\nAttraction, for me, grows over time as I get to know someone. It's irrelevant to their appearance",
">\n\nHonestly it sounds like you might be demisexual",
">\n\nEh it just depends on if you are a shallow person or not honestly. I have went dates with people that are considered \"unattractive\" but if I like the personality then honestly I don't really care because that personality makes them attractive",
">\n\nWell you've never been on a date, so it's not like you're speaking from experience..",
">\n\nI wouldn't say looks per se, but I think chemistry is a lot more important than ppl give it credit for.",
">\n\nLooks do make it easier to get a first date. \nI know people can be mean, but there are few people who are truly ugly. Hopefully nobody has talked to you like that since you've grown up. \nIf you have a friend you trust who seems to have good taste and good sense, ask for their opinion. Make sure you and your clothes are clean and smell fresh. Be well groomed. See a dermatologist if you need to. Find a hair stylist who can suggest a haircut that fits your face, hair type, and lifestyle. Being respectful, having confidence, and a good sense of humor make men more attractive to most women. \nThink of things you enjoy doing that aren't solitary. Like sports leagues with women and men (check your city parks and rec dept) exhibits, classes, etc. Things that repeat are good. That way you’ll meet women with similar interests. That's a conversation starter in itself, and you might even get a coffee date. Even if you don't, you're still doing something you like. \nIf you take care of your body and basic grooming, you're only gonna get better looking as you get older.",
">\n\nThis is totally irrelevant if you’re asexual lmao.",
">\n\nr/niceguys",
">\n\nCome on, this is not even unpopular. Attractive people are attractive. Duh.",
">\n\nI think what's unpopular is the idea that it's the most important part of dating. It definitely isn't.",
">\n\nThis is something that is clearly true when we look at the data, but something I really don’t feel in life.\nThe most beautiful women I know all date guys who are short, fat, balding, acne, or just plain ugly. Sometimes even all at once. I don’t know I just don’t really ever see it.",
">\n\nIt gets you far in dating but not relationships",
">\n\nSo based on your post I am guessing you are not above average in looks. When you are more attractive people tend to use you and you never know if they want something real with you. You’re seen as a conquest and not worth a relationship. So while looks may open the door easily it doesn’t guarantee anything when it comes to a relationship. Just remember Beyoncé was cheated on.",
">\n\nDude, Pete Davidson looks like a big mouth bass with limbs, and he's dating his way through half of hollywood. He's clearly got something else going for him (and don't say a big D. There has to be a point before they see the D, unless he's just whipping it out constantly.)",
">\n\nHe's tall and skinny. Not to mention rich, famous, funny, and charismatic.",
">\n\nr/inceltears",
">\n\nWhy do you feel like it’s okay to mock me for being a virgin?",
">\n\nI am an introvert and don’t speak to many people.\nI’ve been called ugly by people I have never even spoken to. I’ve had people stop men while I’m walking to class to tell me that my face is weird looking. In middle school I was voted the ugliest guy in the school.\nMy friends like my personality and girls like them so it’s not a “birds of a feather”. It’s clearly not my personality unless random girls can smell my personality off of me.\nWhat would you say it is if it isn’t my looks that cause literal strangers to be this way toward me?",
">\n\nWell there are lots of elements to a personality and it’s surprisingly rare we won’t date men because they’re actually ugly (besides the things that they can change like being fat and stuff) it’s often times the personality like how confident they are and how outgoing they and how funny they are that sells us on them",
">\n\nI’m not going to disagree with you, but I have to at least speak up to say that you’re missing something.\nIt’s not just the way you look, it’s also the way your present yourself and treat other people.\nI’m a regular-looking dude (34M) and have had most of my success by being confident, polite and respectful not just to my date, but to everyone around me as often as I can. People who are super good-looking often just don’t have to try. They’re physically attractive so why would they make an effort? If someone isn’t into them they’ll just move onto the next one.",
">\n\nI’m normally not one to rag people over their post history but yours is a bit worrying",
">\n\nI’ve gotten nowhere. Conclusion, I am ugly.",
">\n\nThey’re not the most important thing, but they’re usually the thing you notice first about a person.",
">\n\nNah mid people fuck better imo super got girls tend to have an attitude like you are banging me thats good for you then star fish thinking the looks is enough",
">\n\nSure they are. I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion, everyone knows looks are the first thing we notice. \nYou sure ain’t gonna get far without a personality though, might not even get laid if you’re a guy. Guys tend to be less picky about the lack of personality in women for some reason.",
">\n\nLess picky about looks too lol",
">\n\nYup. It’s the hornies.",
">\n\nAt least you’re honest about it. The amount of women that think men care more about looks is mind blowing. They’re completely unaware.",
">\n\nIt’s only human biology to care. I don’t think people should judge each other for it. Sure we might need to put some effort in but it’s usually worth the trouble in the end though.",
">\n\nAlso, a lot of people aren’t aware of where they stand in terms of physical attractiveness and think they’re entitled to someone more attractive than they are. I blame social media. The dating market is fucked haha.",
">\n\nI knew it! I tell people, because I’m not that attractive, I can’t get any dates. But they try to tell me that looks don’t matter. Oh shit, looks don’t matter. I mean, I know I know Channing Tatum, but apparently I’m not even average. Because even the average people get dates. Not me.",
">\n\nGotta get the foot in the door before you can make your sales pitch. I agree with OP, being physically attractive to a potential date is the most important thing. You can be a lovely person but if you don’t get a first date than nobody will ever know.",
">\n\nAre you insecure about your looks? Practice loving yourself!",
">\n\nHow will that make girls stop calling me ugly?",
">\n\nWomen are attracted to more than just looks. If you’re ugly then learn how to be funny",
">\n\n“Unpopular Opinion “ is full of this dumb, trite moaning.",
">\n\nAbsolutely, some people may say personality is more important to have a long term relationship, however in order to have one you need to attract the person first.\nIt doesn't matter how attractive is your personality, if you don't attract someone at first place you won't have a relationship.",
">\n\nI agree. I’m perpetually single because I’m not attractive to girls the same way I’ve too rejected some girls because I wasn’t physically attracted to them. Whoever says this is shallow behavior is just an elitist prick that is too immersed in their hypocrisy to realize they’d do the same exact thing. Humans like what they like. I’m not gonna feel bad about desiring an attractive girl the same way a girl shouldn’t feel bad about desiring an attractive male.",
">\n\nMost correct answer yet you’re at the bottom",
">\n\nClarification\nIf you are a woman that is what is valued other traits are valued higher than that in men\nMoney intelligence and humor all completely outclass physical attractiveness for men when it comes to dating",
">\n\nFor me even if I’m not initially attracted to a woman physically, if I fall in love with her personality, that could change and she’ll become the most beautiful woman in the world to me. That’s happened before.",
">\n\nif you dont look good just wear a fedora und greet her always with ma lady",
">\n\nMostly unattractive person here: if I can get a date and through the first date I win based on personality. The tough part is dating when you’re younger is based almost entirely on looks on the front end.",
">\n\nIt’s very important in dating in the sense that it gets your foot in the door a lot easier. It doesn’t do as much for the longevity of a relationship though. You can look like a Greek god and still have no luck finding a long term relationship due to a plethora of personality issues. Hell, some attractive people are terrible conversationalists and that sort of thing hurts their dating prospects greatly in any place that’s not a bar full of drunks."
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